How to Livestream, Zoom, Screen-share with UAD Apollo

[@1960chucks]

Unlocks a whole nuther level of customization for the Apollo. THANK YOU STEVE!

[@TheSteveKinney]

10000 percent. M You can really do a lot once you master i/o matrix.

[@AKC-MUSIC]

I'm a new music producer who got my first Apollo Twin Duo interface three years ago, and your amazing content helps fuel my flight. I can't wait to book an individual session.🙏

[@TheSteveKinney]

Fantastic mate! Glad I can help you in your journey! Cheers!

[@TirroHymns]

Brilliant and clear, super helpful. Thank you!

[@djshaycoolay]

Heyy I thought you was going to show how to stream with the APOLLO SOLO. Can you please do a video of setting up the virtual Channel with the Apollo Solo through Logic Pro X and OBS?

[@TheSteveKinney]

I may have to redo this whole video because a lot has changed with zoom - not so much with OBS.. but yeah - I suppose I could do a literal example.

[@djshaycoolay]

@@TheSteveKinney Please and thank you

[@fredrock4527]

Really broke it down to the 1st step like I needed- THANKS

[@fredrock4527]

**One extra step I had to take that wasn’t on the video** Since I have always been monitoring Logic through my Mackie Big Knob, my computer’s BUILT IN OUTPUTs were in use. When configuring speakers, I had to change the output to my Apollo Twin’s output for it to reach Virtual 1&2. Threw me off for a while until I caught it. Just a heads up….

[@amthemusic7632]

I would love to know how you would use the talkback mic on the apollo into the zoom

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@amthemusic7632 totally possible, you have to open up your monitor section in console and send some signal to the aux channel.

[@amthemusic7632]

@@TheSteveKinney Thank you. I wonder if I did it the best way. I used the sends on the Talkback channel to aux 1 and 2 and just muted aux 1 and 2.

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@amthemusic7632 that could work for sure. There’s a few ways to cook that chicken.

[@RONNYMORRISMUSIC]

Always great videos champ.

[@TheSteveKinney]

My brotha Ronny! Cheers mate!

[@BobbyHuff]

Great stuff man!

[@joeclarmusic]

I had no idea that the Apollo Matrix could do that! Thank you so much

[@TheSteveKinney]

Cheers mate!

[@rafaelfreitasmusic]

Great tutorial, Steve! Have you seen that Zoom recently added a feature that allows you to select which input channels it sees in your interface? This allows you to select the MON L/R channels (i.e. channels 15 and 16 in my Apollo X4) without having to redo the I/O Matrix. I think that makes things a lot easier. Do you see any drawbacks to using this new feature? Thanks!!

[@TheSteveKinney]

The drawback is that it doesn’t seem to function as intended. It’s buggy. But hopefully it works as intended in the future.

[@ovivan79]

There is one thing I can't figure out though. If I route "System Audio" through Virtual 1/2 -> Aux 1/2, that means I'm sending my Zoom opponents voice back to them and they are hearing a delay that I can't hear. Any ideas? At least in FaceTime, this was the case.

[@framewavemedia4831]

Do you have any advice on getting your Apollo microphone audio synced with an external camera? For example using a DSLR either with a capture card or webcam software to have Zoom recognize the camera as a webcam. Audio is coming from an SM7 into an Apollo twin. The audio is pretty out of sync. Any way to get those to line up?

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@framewavemedia4831 you need to be able to delay the audio. For that - you’d need something like an atem mini.

[@framewavemedia4831]

​@@TheSteveKinney Thanks for the reply! - Is there a software option for that? I think you mentioned Loopback. Is that what that can do? You're saying applying a manual amount of delay until things look synced up right? I guess the other option would be to send audio out of the Line out via 1/4" into the camera via 3.5?

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@framewavemedia4831 eeeehhhhh. Not too familiar with it. Honestly.

[@kmjansen]

Thank you, Steve

[@TheSteveKinney]

Cheers Kevin!

[@aaronellson9849]

Nobody has mentioned or seem to run into the issue where - no matter the routing configuration - when you use input 1 & 2 as monitor L / R, no matter what, i can hear the raw audio of my synthesizers plugged into 1& 2. even with the track muted / fader turned down in Console. Same with the DAW, while I hear the mixed audio at the same time using the input 1&2 = MON L/R I still hear the raw audio of 1 & 2 on my screen recordings and in my streams unfortunately. Even if I had my microphone plugged in to 1 or 2, i dont want to hear the audio from the interface - or pre-daw so to speak.

[@aaronellson9849]

So how come when I have my input set to Monitor L / R, the apollo is set to be the mic/aux audio inside OBS, I can hear my DAW output and my mac audio on stream. BUT - I still hear inputs 1 & 2 (physical) coming through the stream. You said in the video it doesnt matter what i have plugged in to 1 / 2 because digitally we have made the change in routing. So th software should only be hearing what it's told to hear, right? This doesnt help for streaming performances or doing any sort of live audio work when you have all inputs on the apollo being used by gear and mixed through the DAW

[@freefromctrl]

Great video!

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@freefromctrl cheers mate!

[@bobbysbackingtracks]

Hi Steve, I'm close but no cigar. The annoying audio (doubled) source from Blackhole is always there. It prevents me from having precise control over monitoring regarding fader levels in Console. How do I shut that source off? I went into audio/midi set up and muted but that did not seem to help. I sent you an email and would be happy to pay you for some guidance here. Thanks bud.

[@TheSteveKinney]

Thanks for commenting. Followed up via email.

[@TheNykillers]

Would you recommend getting a capture card or just do regular screen recording? For example I want to record my beat making process and wasn't sure if I should just screen record or get a capture card. I have an Apollo x4 so after watching this not sure if I would need a capture card I guess?

[@TheSteveKinney]

There may be a few advantages to getting a capture card - but it’s not entirely necessary. All of my screen caps are just OBS and routing properly into the inputs of OBS.

[@zooxmusic]

DUDE, I love you

[@tjancijr]

I'm still lost. I'm taking jazz guitar lessons over Zoom and I need to broadcast 2 inputs (Mic, HiZ guitar input). This should be a lot easier than it is. Would like to book a mentor session with you to walk me through but you're booked until next week. GAH!!

[@TheSteveKinney]

Yo TJ! Learning is most important and I don’t wanna have my schedule impede on that! Shoot me an email or reach out on Instagram and I can try to find some time in between my appts. Cheers, Steve

[@tjancijr]

@@TheSteveKinney Email sent!

[@alexlugogr1]

were you able to figure this out? I came here looking the same exact solution as you but different app (meet) and I'm still lost.

[@ThePanchomack]

Awesome, very helpful thx !

[@TheSteveKinney]

Cheers!

[@natebowler1006]

I have a similar situation mentioned earlier in the comments where I do Zoom or FaceTime calls with mic only, or with both mic and guitar plugged into the HiZ channel (when I am taking lessons). However the sound from my monitors creates an echo inn the mic that is hard for the person on the end. I don't seem to get this when just using my laptop. I've tried different gain levels and moving things.....is there something I should be doing to better isolate my mic from the monitor volume? use a more directional mic?

[@TheSteveKinney]

Are you using headphones in both scenarios?

[@natebowler1006]

@@TheSteveKinney I'm am not. My hope was to have a similar user experience that I had previously over FaceTime where the bluetooth speakers and laptop mic I was using for the call didn't require me to wear headphones while playing guitar. It seems FaceTime and Zoom somehow handle this feedback loop to minimize echo/feedback/looping when not using an audio interface, but when I test FT, Zoom, or just making a phone call with Mac, the people on the other line complain of distracting echo.

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@natebowler1006 if you’re using a condenser mic - they are really meant for studio application. They are super sensitive. If you have your speakers on along with those mics - it will pick up the ambient noise from your speakers and feedback. Best to use headphones at least. In addition- using a mic like the sm7b for your spoken dialogue and then your guitar directly plugged in will get you the best results.

[@natebowler1006]

@@TheSteveKinney ok. thanks for the tip. when I resort to just using my laptop mic, it works ok (I am configuring zoom directly to route input to the laptop mic instead of the UA...I'll get a new mic and see how it goes.

[@natebowler1006]

Thank you. Changing mics has helped with the ambient noise. My remaining issue (and this is probably a naive question because this is all still really new to me), is how do I prevent Mic 2 from coming out of my monitors in the mix? Is there a way to not hear Mic 2? I have the following setup: Audio/Midi Speakers L/R:Virtual 1/2 I/O Matrix OUPUTS 1/2:MON L/MON R I/O Matrix INPUTS 1/2:AUX1 L/AUX1 R I/O Matrix INPUTS 3/4L HiZ Line1/Mic Line2. I am sending my HiZ, Virtual 1/2, and Mic2 into Aux 1. Is there a way to eliminate Mic2 from coming out of my speakers in mix that is coming out of the MON L/MON R output? This feels like a pretty basic mix/console question, so again, I apologize.

[@billesposito2112]

Nope I'm lost. A virtual channel is just a channel you can assign to a different output? What would you charge to take my screen over and set mine . I can't record in Luna . I can in Studio One and Pro Tools, well not anymore in PT . I along with countless other people get an assertion error message. But I can still record in SO. But I want LUNA! I tried to set up my Matrix in Core Audio last night thinking I was all set and then nothing. I can record Virtual Instruments in LUNA tho. It's starting to get to me . Been trying for months. Trying to stay positive but I'm running low on Positivity. Do u have the ability to take over my screen ? And what would it cost me?

[@TheSteveKinney]

Since you’re on Mac - ya - it would be something we could do via my 1:1 sessions. You can book time directly from my website in the mentor section via calendly. Once we are on a call - we can get the screen sharing set up - it’s part of a standard Mac utility via iMessage. We can walk through it that way Or we can just screenshare and work our way through it via zoom etc. Cheers mate!

[@billesposito2112]

@@TheSteveKinney is your website listed on your YT page. I'm sure it is . I reinstalled everything last night and had it in default and had no luck then set my I/O to analog only . No luck . I think a corrupted file is eluding me in the preference files somewhere . Anyways I'll see what you have available for time slots and make it work in my schedule . I run my own company and if I'm not there things grind to a halt . Thanks Steve.

[@coatza86]

The only thing missing here is how to send Zoom speaker to a Virtual Channel. I still haven't found anywhere online that would say how to do that, or if it's even possible. Every audio coming out from my computer-that it's not Zoom-goes indeed into the assigned virtual channels. But somehow, Zoom is the only thing that doesn't route properly. There's no way for me to adjust the volume of the teacher. Sorry if this has been asked already...

[@TheSteveKinney]

I literally HATE zoom at this point. I hate that it’s the standard software. Because it’s the absolute worst. Period. End of story. Ha Since putting out this video, it’s changed about 2 times and it’s become the Bain of my existence. Long story short, they push out almost daily updates and it’s always breaking behavior.

[@coatza86]

@@TheSteveKinney haha Ya, and I'm sure you're not the only one who hates it. Sorry as well. I also didn't mean to sound demanding. I'm only using Zoom for a course I'm taking. So all good.

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@coatza86 no no, you’re good. Ha I didn’t take it that way.. just can’t help but share my frustration with zoom at this point LOL The answer to your question is a complex one. It involves setting up particular routing assignments in UAD console, and then in the Audio Midi setup in macOS settings There isn’t really a way to send JUST zoom audio to a virtual channel - as zoom outputs it’s audio to the SYSTEM audio in macOS. So anything from spotify email sounds, iMessage sounds will all be going down that same path as the virtual channel - if that makes sense. It’s a nightmare. And zoom needs to fire everyone in their developers department.

[@albinmuc2714]

06/2023: Zoom sees all channels and you can select a channel(a) directly in the Zoom audio settings (Mac)

[@TheSteveKinney]

Still buggy but yeah! Stoked for this new feature.

[@Chamillionumc]

can u just fix mines for me i cant figure it out