How To Lower Range Rover Sport L494 L405 / Suspension Height Adjustment Considerations

[@BalanBro2]

Another think to keep in mind, especially if you alter the normal ride height, is how it will affect your wheel alignment. On pretty much all modern vehicles with independent suspension, changing ride height also alters camber as well as toe. So if you should choose to permanently raise or lower the overall height, you should have it realigned at the normal ride height setting to prevent prematurely wearing out your tires.

[@L663]

Its a good point

[@Mr.MoparSRT]

So I've seen on some RR when you open the door the suspension lowers so it's easier to get out is that standard on all models or is there something I can do to make this happen im a short gut lol and it would sure make it so much better getting in and out.

[@iggihk]

The Stiffness does change in L494 setup. That's why some manufacture opt for multi chambers air spring in order to separate "height" and "stiffness" Great video, and Range Rover community need someone like you to show us owner what can be done to our car.

[@ianmenai]

If my memory is correct, my RR P38 lowered itself when you went over 50mph for better cruising on motorways. Standard feature even on those days! I spent ages sorting the air suspension, the bags, the compressor and valves, and it was superb, very advanced for those days!

[@paulmurphy454]

I heard somewhere, I can’t remember where, that the new Defender has a secondary bag on each wheel that compensates for the hard ride at maximum height. Then again I may have been dreaming. Keep up the good work!!!

[@L663]

Hi Paul - I will check that out...

[@ianmenai]

Simon, in the days of the first Mini, the rage was fitting wheel spacers to have a wider track. This gave 'better' road holding, or so we thought! The downside was it put so much strain on the wheel bearing that they didn't last long before becoming rather grindy! Also there was a spate of wheel stud failures as those mini wheel studs were not meant to be stressed in that way! Something to be cautious of on your lovely RR Sport V8!! You don't want to be overtaken by one of your wheels whilst cruising on the A419!!

[@davidwilson4468]

happened to me with my mini van! The studs snapped in a hard corner and the front wheel departed

[@HQBProductions]

Gosh...somebody else who remembers those days!! 😀😀😀😀

[@dodweld]

I assume “normal” height places the drive shafts and CV joints at an optimum angle to prevent excessive wear and tear. Hence the standard default mode when driving quickly

[@robertdahl8779]

wouldn't the optimum angle remain the same if the vehicle was lowered evenly?, your thoughts sir.

[@alantd44]

In fact, there are more than 4 modes - although the others aren't driver selectable. At speed, the vehicle drops height below 'Normal' to increase stability. From memory, I think there are a total of 7 height settings including the 4 selectable ones.

[@L663]

Wow I did not know that - but it makes sense especially with the dynamic mode system

[@johnnybgood1977]

haha..boy racer on a range l494..love it..keep the mods coming,,waiting on the smoked rear light bar..then the new front facelift lights..wings and bumper..big project coming soon

[@L663]

Yes all these things are coming..

[@HQBProductions]

There are some complex and knowledgeable comments on this thread! I think the best thing to do is leave it all well alone...yes it may not look cool but the potential problems of increased wear in some form or another might bring very big bills! I’m not an expert in this by any means but have owned several Citroen’s over the years and know that left alone, they rarely give trouble but play with them and it can get expensive! I’ll stay with my steel springs and adaptive dampers for now...I’m not brave!! Good work men! Richard😱😎😎😎😎😎

[@L663]

Hi Richard - yes you are correct and I am not thinking that the suspension does not stiffen with height... there is always a lot to consider !

[@rafflesnh]

I wish my new Disco Sport had air suspension. For the first time in my life I now need a step ladder to be able to wash the roof, which at my age is no laughing matter. :-D

[@L663]

Ladders and water don't sound a good mix.... be careful

[@aandmt79]

Another great video, does this apply to the 2016 Discovery4? Or is there another way of firming up the suspension/reducing body roll??

[@TheFadingTheory]

My RR does not go to access mode automatically when I park. It only goes to that setting when I push the lower button.

[@stuartmcarthur5359]

There's a setting in the Menu on the steering wheel

[@TheFadingTheory]

@@stuartmcarthur5359 I will take a look.

[@georgesaraamonette1782]

@@stuartmcarthur5359 Doesn't it depend on what year your sport is?

[@robertdahl8779]

Great video guys, Question? will the IID Tool keep the vehicle in it's 20 ml lowered position at speed. I have the new 2021 RR Sport Autobiography. I installed the KW lowering module on my 2010 Sport, it was a complete waste of money, the blue tooth module keep collapsing, in the end KW refused to assist me. Australia.

[@L663]

Hi The IDD tool make the suspension sensors lie about the real height - so if you lower it 20mm it will stay 20mm in all setting all the time... If you are in access mode ( low ) then it will be 20mm lower than stock access mode - but it you go fast the car will change to normal height - but this will be 20mm lower than the standard normal height - hope this helps !

[@cameronv1926]

Robert, did you ever end up going with the IID Tool? If so any complaints? I’m considering this over lowering links for my 2021 RR Sport

[@ammarmalik0007]

Good stuff- curious what’s a good tool for scanning transaction, air height and generally other problem areas? Thanks.

[@bugjuicer]

5:00 - there's that XLifter for air mods Also, the cars are 'safety tested' at a standard height, which is why the car resets at 'speed', so it meets requirements for headlight and bumper height etc etc..

[@wandante]

After adjusting the suspension height with gap iid tool, does the vehicle dimension page on the infotainment system also get updated?

[@andyhill8312]

I have 30mm wheel spacers on my lr4 and it brought the wheels out to the edge of the wheel arches and I think it looks a lot better.

[@chrisharvey6845]

Great work guys keep up with the great videos you are amazing, thanks so very much 👍

[@L663]

We enjoy making the videos so we will keep making them.. as long as the boss allows

[@silverfox4113]

Hi Guys. There is 4 modes access height, normal height, offroad height and extended offroad height. To gain extended offroad height you need to be in offroad height first, then hold the up button and push the brake at the same time for around 3 seconds then she will go up in extended offroad height 👍. Great video guys I'm watching right now.

[@L663]

Yes I touch on this during the video - but i did not know the 3 second brake trick... will try that on the Defender.

[@silverfox4113]

@@L663 no worries guys keep up the great work👍

[@NakkiranSunassee]

I've tried that on mine, it doesn't work, not sure why

[@tonypacke6954]

Great video as usual, I can see a LR technician watching this with his head in his hands. Be careful with the wheel spacer idea, you could run into issues with change of use with the insurance company. Any excuse to not pay out in the event of an accident. You need to research this more.

[@L663]

Yes of course all modification need to be declared... we have specialist insurance on our cars.

[@paulkinsella3973]

When my L405 is set to auto access mode, when I turn of the engine or unbuckle my seat belt the front end dips about an inch then raises back up Any idea what causes that? I’m thinking height control sensor is bad🤷🏻‍♂️

[@massimobianchi8663]

Good evening to you all, and really my compliments for the youtube channel. My name is Massimo, and I would like to ask: IID TOOL BT, licensed for only one VIN, allows you to do the same things as the video, including, in case of sensor replacement, recalibration? I recently bought a 2015 L494, and I would like to make myself independent to carry out maintenance on the vehicle, buying one from you. The PRO version, for personal use, is a bit too expensive. I deal with automation in the industrial sector, and having fun discovering the functions of this exceptional vehicle is a real blast for me. As well as, I would like to make an important upgrade of the basic audio system (perhaps the only real flaw of the car, which does not deserve a good grade), of which I have already seen some videos, always on your channel. Can you provide me with the materials, knowing that I live in Italy?

[@L663]

Hi Massimo - the IID tool is linked to one single VIN for MODIFICATION items ( lowering / upgrading etc ) but you can use it on all Land Rover vehicles for the basic functions like fault code reading etc.

[@ONELIFELIVEITOZ]

I just installed X-lifter in my LR-3 AUD$850 best thing ever.

[@mattperez1705]

Hey guys, I was wondering if there is any way that you could direct me to the ride height sensor fuse? I am attempting to hunt down a suspension problem, so I am attempting to disconnect the ride height fuse to stop the car from auto leveling overnight. Thanks!

[@justcars3381]

Hi how do I stop my RR from going into extended suspension after I get out of the car it’s very annoying

[@Disco5_Tony]

Do you have to keep the phone app open to access the custom heights or are they stored once saved in the vehicle

[@L663]

The settings are saved - it is in effect a recalibration that is performed.

[@stanleyharrris7671]

I recently purchased the tool and started messing with the ride height. However, I was unable to lower the front by more than 14mm. The back I believe would let me lower as much as 26mm. Do you know if the parameters are limited in the front? This is on an L494 SC (U.S. My 14).

[@flemmingranch8777]

A very good informative video.....

[@L663]

Glad you liked it

[@georgesaraamonette1782]

You guys do great videos, and are experts on LR. 2017 has auto height adjust/lowing for getting in and out of the vehicle. Can 2014 be updated to do the same?

[@L663]

This may be possible - check your menu - does it have the "Auto Access" option ? www.ownerinfo.landrover.com/document/LX/2016/T23339/18677_en_GBR/proc/G1823191

[@Mr.MoparSRT]

I have a question can you put a boost gauge on my 2015 5.0 sport?

[@midnightrun1256]

where do you get the 25 mm spacers

[@tiagoleitao5951]

Can I ride my Range Rover sport 2012 in lower mode constantly? My lower mode raises after 40kmh. Do I have a problem? I appreciate if you can help me… thanks

[@giacomoguida3872]

Hi there I would like to buy a iid for my Range Rover sport l494 model 2018. Please can you help me for buy it? Thanks!

[@aldomarcano234]

I have a 2020 Land Rover Defender X with I love lowered, it any existing application for my Defender?

[@jeffreyhawkins123321]

Where do u get the IID tool? I would just like to be able to drive in access height without it bringing me back up to normal height when I reach a certain speed limit.

[@L663]

The IID tool is for sale on the internet - we do not sell them. Even with the IID tool you cannot leave it in access height - but you can set all your heights lower - so normal height will be lower... and access height will be super low.

[@Mr73157]

Are you saying that when you adjust to the low rider mode with the adjustment you made on your phone you can ride up to say 70mph?

[@L663]

Yes all ride hights will be lower by the same amount... access mode - normal mode - raised mode ... all 3 modes will be lower by the same offset

[@cameronv1926]

Do you have to leave the module plugged in at all times for this to work? Or can you set it up then remove the module from the obd2?

[@L663]

Hi - you only need to plug the module in to make the changes - then remove the module from the ODB port.

[@timstanton1314]

Hi Simon, is it the IID that you can use to activate software that maybe hasn’t been activated?

[@L663]

Hi Tim - alas no ( for the new Defender ) although I have been discussing this with the team at GAP Diagnostics ( who make the IID tool ) The new cars from 2017 on ( ish ) use DOIP to communicate between the modules which is IP ( internet protocol ) and the GAP team have not yet looked at this system. A system similar to this will materialise soon ( my prediction ) but at the moment its a case of editing the CCF file manually ( potentially risky ) and uploading via Land Rover software...with a DOIP dongle ( £600 ish for the official ones ) so its not very accessible to the DIY user at the moment.

[@timstanton1314]

@@L663 Thanks Simon for taking the time to reply :-) it's all very exciting, looking forward to something coming available either from `landrover dealerships or for the home enthusiast. The IID looks so simple and if I'm hones about my level of ability. Keep up the good work!

[@WRCWRX]

You can lower a L494 18mm & still use access height mode. Any lower than that & the vehicle will hit the bump stops when lowering & then raise up to offroad height as it thinks the suspension has hit a obstruction. I would not lower much more than 10mm honestly.

[@L663]

Yes i think you are correct.

[@schnaarf]

More air in the airbags doesn’t mean more air pressure in them, it simply means more air. So being higher won’t make the car more bouncy. The car isn’t getting any heavier and the bags fold/roll under so it’s not stretching the rubber. More pressure would come when the airbag becomes stretched. Just thinking logically (I’m no expert)

[@L663]

You are correct - I was barking up the wrong tree... as the bags are not fully inflated they have room to expand you are correct.

[@kayk6036]

What is the name of the App on the mobile to run the height diagnostics? -thanks

[@L663]

You need to buy the GAP IID tool and then the app is GAP Diagnostics but you need the hardware dongle to plug into the ODBII port

[@martinwilliam5536]

Would wheel spacers make the wheels touch the arches

[@L663]

Thats what is worrying me

[@rossstewart6797]

Is the iid for sale as I can’t find it on your site ? Great videos keep posting guys 👍🏼

[@L663]

Sorry we do not sell the iiD tool - look on ebay and other sites... its the GAP Diagnostics IId tool

[@mohsinalam7400]

Is that an svr kit

[@berk1383]

9:29 Hello, very good content and Videos! İ have a question. İ have a L494 2015 SDV6 and drive about 2300km back from holiday to Home (with Breaks every 300km). At the last 600km there was a very short Sound from Front left like a dull cracking Sound. It was after i drive from Rest stop back to Highway and drive over a light pothole. Same Sound when I accelerated on the Highway 3 Times. After that the nose (Front) of the car was lower than normal. After i Park the car at Home It was normal again. After i get out of the car, i saw that it is lower than in the past. Also over night it got lower than in the past. In normal mode Front left height is 830mm Front right is 835 mm, but rear height is 845mm. Do they have to be same? There is 1-2cm difference. And you have 850mm in the Front in your Video. Is 850 the Standard (target) value?? Can you help me with your Professional ideas please?

[@L663]

Interesting - the hight will vary depending on tyre size so if you hae different wheels to me then we cannot compare. The level is set by a height sensor which sits on an arm and is bolted to the body - see below picture check this is not damaged rimmerbros.com/ItemImages/Large/530563-Zoom.jpg

[@philippesimard9209]

Hi So in access mode -20 lower the Range Rover by 10 mm, Correct?

[@L663]

It may vary from car to car

[@davidwilson4468]

What is the 112c temperature shown on the app please? Is it really that hot in your workshop?

[@AndyK.1]

Compressor temperature. That’s why it’s slow to rise

[@L663]

I totally missed that - well spotted - I agree with Andy's comment below - that would appear to be the Temperature of the compressor !

[@davidwilson4468]

@@AndyK.1 Thank you for the explanation, thats one hot compressor

[@Unvaccinated63s]

Can i drive it in lower function??

[@martyndavies1482]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. That quote was actually coined by the first person to start to mess with Land Rover air suspension systems...

[@L663]

I think I was coming to the same conclusion at the very end of the video !

[@sunnydays1238]

Where did you buy this iid tool from?

[@L663]

They are available from ebay and Allmakes

[@sammyg805]

Height is correct it’s not th in the end it’s ht . Therefore your pronunciation is perfect

[@L663]

Thanks for the validation... the "th" argument was a convincing argument though !

[@faizulhakimi1187]

This stuff can run on rr velar 2023?

[@L663]

No - i think you need the G4 tool to do that

[@midnightrun1256]

Links for IID MODE and Parts

[@bugjuicer]

ooooo what about extended mode?

[@6643bear]

Hi Simon , great video , I had a problem with my d4, had a error message never seen before that it said system need to cool before ride height can be adjusted, I wonder if you come across that one. I now have to replace my compressor only done 27000!!. Regards mark

[@L663]

Yes that sounds like compressor overheating - there is a changable air canister that can become blocked on the D3 D4.. new compressor is always a good idea

[@igorhariton3112]

That IID tool works for RR L405 13-17? Thx.

[@L663]

Yes it does

[@Mr.MoparSRT]

We're can I buy this?

[@L663]

They are for sale online - google GAP Diagnostics IID tool...

[@johnthompson3305]

You never showed beast mode?

[@TSXBOY]

Thank you

[@midnightrun1256]

I WANNA SEE HOW LOW IT GOSE FOR SHOWS AND STUFF

[@paultimmins1]

Hi Simon if the air suspension is giving faults and slowing down then I have another tip for you. Open the compressor in the wheel well and you will discover a little filter / gauze. It will be blocked full of white oxide powder. Give it a clean you can also drill a small hole in it. Should sort issues landrover may want to change a compressor or they might do the very same repair wink wink .

[@L663]

Thanks for the tip Paul - A job for Tyler to investigate next week..

[@Agent77X]

My RRS randomly goes up at it own!😂

[@romantkachuk168]

The air suspension Pressure does not change with the height. Only Volume does. Pressure changes with load, when you put more weight on the car. In off-road mode higher stiffness mostly caused by limited suspension travel. The softer suspension can be achieved by increasing airbag volume, so that air had more space to compress. Or more stretchy airbag material, but that's not safe/reliable

[@L663]

I think you may be correct - its more complex than first appears - on Gary's car he has to increase / reduce pressure to raise / lower the car - but you may be correct it is different on Land Rover as the airbags wrap over the strut... and Force ( upwards ) = Pressure ( of air ) x Area ( of face ) ... I need to look at this more ....also how do i measure this ?

[@romantkachuk168]

@@L663 Right, and since force is constant on a stationary vehicle (F=mg), Pressure X Area should also remain constant. If we think of an LR air strut as just a bit more complex version of a piston in a cylinder, then we can assume that Area doesn't change much either. That also gives us quasi-constant pressure. So, LR changes its height mainly by changing air volume. Theoretically, due to a higher volume in the off-road height suspension should be a bit softer due to a lesser relative compression comparing to the access height with smaller air volume

[@romantkachuk168]

It seems unnatural because we all used to think of it as how it works with tyre pressures, but we don't consider how the contact area decreases when we inflate tyres

[@L663]

@@romantkachuk168 Yes you have convinced me ... i slept on it and i am now in total agreement with you

[@romantkachuk168]

@@L663 glad I could help, love your videos!

[@somecomment]

Can you do Evoque next?

[@L663]

The Evoque is in the workshop..front bumper upgrade is next plan

[@EricLee_SiliconValley]

love how you roast MILs on the low. lol

[@L663]

MIL’s ???

[@용용티비]

구입처 알수있을까요? iid

[@silvergold08]

Is there a way to stop the l494 from automatically switching to access mode when you park the car and open the door? Because I’m going to lower it more than 20 mm and don’t want it to jump into extended mode when I open the door after parking..

[@PaparazziLux]

thanks.

[@midnightrun1256]

you didnt lower it too the max

[@milesfinch]

If you wanna lower ya car the easy way, always carry round a few fat mates....simples!

[@L663]

Alas that wont work - the car just increases the pressure to account for their lardiness !

[@JJ-mg1yx]

Check out the date of this video

[@L663]

An opportunity missed on my part i think !

[@jamrock6180]

$3k usd

[@Petrolhead912]

Can o worms springs to mind. I spent years lowering VWs as is required by the cult , ultimately it will wear out Your suspension parts and tyres very quickly. Not so bad on elderly VWs but could get costly using range rovers. Would be great if access mode was lower on the new Defender though 😂

[@L663]

I tend to agree with you.. lower access mode to look cool when parked would suit most people and not cause any tyre or suspension wear !

[@Defender3d]

Haha, lov'th' it!

[@shaidulhussain1745]

My Range looks like a idiot when its so High up

[@mvirdi2333]

🙋‍♂️❤️👍👌🤷‍♂️🙏🙏

[@B747-v2m]

Hi you spend so much money time trying to get a look of SVR but still looks like a normal sport RR Tyler Tyler Tyler Tyler Tyler 😄😄😄 if you like the new look just get the Damned new one TAILAR🤣🤣🤣

[@guerrmmguerrmm]

Omg get to the point. Shut up and get to the adjustment part. Time is essential

[@chadfordham1]

ROID HOIT

[@jeromerudd9029]

jesus - this guy likes the sound of his own voice. skip

[@L663]

Bonus bit of blasphemy !

[@JoseRivera-wb9sz]

You talk to much do some exemplar quite

[@L663]

Be in this you had some good for the time

[@Espinoza1938]

The most bullshit car in the world

[@L663]

Have you considered doing car reviews ? you are truly eloquent and have a gift with language.