How To Make A Counter Tactic In FM24

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The Deep Lying Playmaker

The Deep Lying Playmaker

Күн бұрын

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@ivocorreia9820
@ivocorreia9820 Ай бұрын
Man Im not the type to comment but you are the best tactics life safer and teacher I've ever seen I love your content so much before I used to just make tactics that resemble the op meta tactics because otherwise I would lose so many games but you thought me to watch the games in full match so I booted up fm started a new save and watched the whole Pre season in full and the first match and wow the football I managed to make this team play all because I stopped being lazy and watching key highlights, it's amazing satisfying, and the most important lesson was don't just ball watch, watch the sorrounding what your off the ball players are contributing to both defending and attacking
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
This really means a lot, thank you for taking the time to write it! It really is easy (mostly haha) to work on your tactic when you watch the full match as your making adjustments. If seemingly minor changes can have major impacts on the team! Love that these videos are helping you out
@hungotuan4431
@hungotuan4431 Ай бұрын
He is still cooking 😂
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
🙏🙏
@IgorWarszawa
@IgorWarszawa Ай бұрын
This channel made me fall in love with 2D view again 😊
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
2D!!! The greatest view!! But seriously, I do like 2D because I find it easier to see the tactical changes and what they're actually doing
@ericrostron1496
@ericrostron1496 Ай бұрын
Cannot believe Luton wasnt used. Jokes aside, another banger. Please continue to drop vids, theyre fantastic.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
If you downvoted the video because I didn't use Luton, I would understand
@bideee
@bideee Ай бұрын
Space being mentioned in the first 20 seconds of the vid classic DLP 🤣 This looks like it’ll be my go to against lower teams in the league to avoid getting FMd 👏🏾
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
If we ever make a "DLP Bingo" card game, we all know "mentions creating space" would definitely be the free space
@mufasafit
@mufasafit Ай бұрын
It’s crazy how you replied to over 100 comments. As you grow that’ll be harder to maintain but please just keep your content authentic and simple like this. Everything you do is live and people can see with their own eyes instead of simulating things and saying it’s great tactic.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Thank you!! I've tried other avenues (not related with FM) and didn't have much success, so I'm very grateful for the response the channel/videos have been getting.
@bogdanyanchenko2876
@bogdanyanchenko2876 Ай бұрын
When you were talking about tall central defenders, you were looking at two parameters: height, and jumping reach. but as far as I know, height has no effect on that abillity. let's say a short player with a jumping reach of 20 will jump higher than the tallest player with a jumping reach of 15.
@mustuknow2606
@mustuknow2606 Ай бұрын
This channel on a crazy run rn.❤
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
🙏🙏
@Ksianth
@Ksianth Ай бұрын
Dude do you have any idea how much I've been waiting for a channel like yours? Thank you for everything so far, I sincerely hope that your channel continues to thrive!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
thank you!! Those are very kind words, means a lot!
@arturillosmeriglia8029
@arturillosmeriglia8029 Ай бұрын
I'm at the point where I like and leave a comment before I've even finished watching the video. Great job DLP! Man I LOVELOVELOVE counterattack tactics! Especially good in network saves against players with better teams as they will get increasingly desperate as the match goes on and will oftentimes blunder.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!!! And that's the best time to use a counter, against those desperate teams!
@utdway1878
@utdway1878 Ай бұрын
Brilliant once again! I struggle all the time and never seem to settle on a tactic so frustrating. I’ll win a few than it completely falls apart
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
If it makes you feel better, I change my tactics all the time haha. (just look at the Luton stuff from some of my other videos lol). Do you like to have one primary tactic? Or have a few different ones that you rotate?
@utdway1878
@utdway1878 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker mainly one but three versions of it. I struggle to fix issues I spot when taking notes probably because you can fix issues multiple ways. I don’t expect to win every game but find it hard to get a solid tactic as it will work one minute and then drastically implode the next. Should I adapt to each opponent or try and play as I’d prefer? A lot of content out there has arguments for both
@arturillosmeriglia8029
@arturillosmeriglia8029 Ай бұрын
@@utdway1878 Don't change tactics too often. A bad tactic with high familiarity will lead to better results than a bad tactic with low familiarity imho. Try to make small incremental changes and try to connect the mistakes that you see your players make with the opponent's shape and style of play. Might be your tactic has some exploitable vulnerabilities and teams that play a certain way can take advantage of it while others can't.
@arturillosmeriglia8029
@arturillosmeriglia8029 Ай бұрын
​@@utdway1878 be careful when making changes to your tactic mid-season. Familiarity can tank very easily and when that happens you're gonna start losing even more games. Tactics are not always the reason why your team is underperforming. Morale, cohesion and familiarity are all important factors to keep in mind.
@utdway1878
@utdway1878 Ай бұрын
@@arturillosmeriglia8029 I must admit I’m like Ranieri the tinker man. I went to balanced mentality and put all team instructions to neutral so everything is balanced as possible, picked a formation that fits the team and worked from that so far so good. A big issue I had was WB on att and one on Support I changed to FB pretty much got the same output but my defence is more solid. Thanks for the advice 👍
@gesha9413
@gesha9413 Ай бұрын
Most unique high quality FM content out there not using exploitive tactics showing the game can be played differently
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Thanks!! And I find this tactic making approach more challenging but ultimately much more rewarding
@xeones
@xeones 4 күн бұрын
Think I'll copy the first tactic (and tweak as needed) into a new save with a mid table team and see how I get on. Thanks!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 4 күн бұрын
Good luck! And you're welcome to copy any tactics or ideas or anything you see in the videos. These are for information and education, so have fun stealing from them haha
@benwilliams8667
@benwilliams8667 Ай бұрын
Your videos are so helpful. Can you do some videos that show how some of the team instructions on the left work and when to use them? I never know when to use pass into space or when to step up the defence for example!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
I've got some ideas for tactical instructions! May not be right away, but should (hopefully) be worth the wait. And thanks for the suggestion!
@FMlestri
@FMlestri Ай бұрын
Nicely described regarding the use of complementary team instructions. Often I see players complain on forums about their formation and more often than not they have things like Play Ball Out Of Defence and slow tempo but also long kicks and distribute fast for their keeper.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
That's one of those little things that can really help a tactic. I'd like to say i don't make that mistake anymore haha, but it can be an easy thing to miss
@FMlestri
@FMlestri Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker very easy just to click them all.
@ModernMozart1104
@ModernMozart1104 19 күн бұрын
This video kicks ass and I generally agree with everything you said. I would simply add that it is possible to play with a higher block and even press some against higher teams if you have enough guys back. If you have something like 2 full backs with 2 DM's for instance (ofc w/ 2 CBs as well) or my personal favorite of having 3 CB's, you can still play higher up the pitch will generally help a lot. But you are going for the more classical approach of inviting pressure which is great too.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 18 күн бұрын
Love the additions!! Very true; I find that 2 DM's in general allow you to play a bunch of different style and you can adjust the player roles depending on how you want to play. And yea, wanted to show the more classical approach to the counter. If I make "Counter Attack: The Sequel" I may take your approach with a more high press haha
@drew3ism
@drew3ism Ай бұрын
Soooo good. I love that you aren’t about the full on press like most of the content out there. There are more ways to play this game. I have been experimenting with the be more disciplined instruction lately and wonder what your thoughts would be on pairing that with the counter tactic?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Thanks!! Love playing some of those more defensive tactics. And I always call the "more disciplined" instruction the "don't be stupid" button haha. Meaning, if I have a lead, telling the team to play smart, don't give away the ball cheaply, stuff like that. All that to say, that could definitely work with these kinds of tactics! But I generally don't play with it on the entire match for what it's worth
@datmiki
@datmiki 27 күн бұрын
Man where do you get all this knowledge? you are cooking. everything covers perfectly to what I need and pls do adv playmaker next
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 26 күн бұрын
thank you!! The advanced playmaker is on the way, but may not be the immediate future. Appreciate the support!
@andrei47
@andrei47 Ай бұрын
This video speaks my language.. Another amazing job.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Thank you!! And who doesn't love a Defensive 442 tactic?? haha
@andrei47
@andrei47 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker hoofball for life!
@matthewhoward-white463
@matthewhoward-white463 Ай бұрын
Counter style has always been my favourite, and always had a tough time getting it going. This vid has been very insightful, great stuff.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Glad it helped! I find a counter tactic has the greatest reward when you score a goal. something about specifically drawing the opponent in and then hitting them is so satisfying
@stefanbozic
@stefanbozic Ай бұрын
Excellent video, as usual !!! Now, one interesting thing would be to fully understand two different approaches: the tactic you used in your "How to make a defensive tactic video", in other words higher defensive line and cautious mentality vs. the 1st tactic from this video: lower defensive line, trap inside & invite crosses. Keep up the great work
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Ooo I do love that idea! I may do something on that, thanks for the suggestion!
@kalakocheng
@kalakocheng Ай бұрын
finally some content that ive been waiting for! nice content bro!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
thanks!!
@Wide_Trequartista
@Wide_Trequartista Ай бұрын
Hey DLP - amazing video once again! You are by far, my favourite FM KZbinr. I wanted to ask what your tactical rationale was for playing with an “inverted central midfield” - playing the L-footed Xhaka in the MCR position, and the R-footed Wirtz in the MCL position?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Ha great catch! If I'm honest, it didn't start with the midfield, it started with the Winger. I had been using Amine Adli a bit and wanted to try him in the left winger position becaues he is left footed. I like a Mezzala and a Winger on the same side and it went from there. But it is a good point you bring up, I should probably pay more attention and put more focus on trying to match the footed-ness (if that's a word lol) and the player roles of the overall team, rather than focusing on one specific position that could affect the entire tactic. Thanks for the comment and the support!
@boxmanproductions321
@boxmanproductions321 Ай бұрын
Anchor x Segundo combo again i love it
@porzi043
@porzi043 Ай бұрын
Mr. DLP, amazing work, you should stream some of your games on twitch
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Maybe one day! Maybe if I ever get Luton to a cup final I'll stream the match haha
@piersonjamesa
@piersonjamesa Ай бұрын
Love, great insight on the pressing trap vs crossing approach, i wish they would just go back to the old descriptors for fm 25. Could you do a video on the hold shape mentality? I feel like it isnt used that often in the community and it might be nice to show how to use it to draw teams out similar to your low block if they choose to press.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
I think I may do a deep dive on a bunch of the tactical instructions. Do a basic 442 or something and go through how each one changes your team
@liamnoble289
@liamnoble289 Ай бұрын
Hey man, huge fan of all your videos so far I was wondering if you could do a video on the data hub and how to utilise it. What to look for and what changes to try and implement based on what you see. Cheers!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy the videos! And thanks for the suggestion, I think a data hub video would be really fun (and helpful) to make
@joshrichards870
@joshrichards870 Ай бұрын
I was literally going to ask for this video and you did it 😂, nice video
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
😁 great minds think alike!
@mustermannfm
@mustermannfm Ай бұрын
Love the look at this from different team perspectives!!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
That Heidenheim team was real frisky hahaha; they had some potency on the counter
@mustermannfm
@mustermannfm Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker lost in all the Leverkusen story last year, but Heidenheim definitely the feel good story of Bundesliga last season
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
@@mustermannfm When I choose teams for these things, I generally don't put a lot of thought into it haha... but with Heidenheim, I was like, can I really call a team that finished top 10 an underdog 🤣
@thergothon8462
@thergothon8462 Ай бұрын
Thank you. Has been waiting for smth like that. And I love inclusion of Targetman and wide playmaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
No problem, happy that you liked it. Lot of fun roles in that 442; I didn't necessarily point it out specifically, but you can see some of the WP playmaking abilities in the highlights
@gazhammer10001
@gazhammer10001 Ай бұрын
Could you possibly consider making a video based on a lower or mid table side who need to be more defence minded against the top clubs but more aggressive against similar and poorer clubs? This is where I personally struggle and because I also find that changing tactics leads to less consistent results, I usually just use a plug and play tactic throughout the season. Many thanks.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
My video about the "defensive tactic" is my save with Luton when we played Arsenal and I talk about a strategy to try and stop them. May help you out! I find creating tactics with only a few instructions will help with familiarity. If you only have maybe 2-4 instructions, and you change them, there's not that much to get used to . But if you have a tactic that has 8-10 instructions, and then you change that, it can affect your team's familiarity
@user-ws3oc2tj9p
@user-ws3oc2tj9p Ай бұрын
Love the first tactic, has that Ranieri's Leicester vibe. Will try both Tactics on my Paris FC run.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
I really love that style too; Strikers are easy to switch around so lots of tactical freedom with player roles
@pb5531
@pb5531 Ай бұрын
Still liking and commenting on every video as this KZbinr should be even bigger 🎉
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Every little bit helps thank you
@friv7501
@friv7501 Ай бұрын
47 minutes is beautiful
@declan6447
@declan6447 Ай бұрын
Another stellar video!!! 🎉🎉
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@cardinalbiggles3142
@cardinalbiggles3142 Ай бұрын
good stuff. made me rethink trap inside/invite crosses which i rarely use.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
I've started messing with them more recently. it's a really fun way to set up your defensive shape and create some unique ways to stop the opponent
@johanvanbrakel2816
@johanvanbrakel2816 Ай бұрын
Started a game with Luton and was struggling with an counter attack, i was really hoping that an AF could work with a F9 with wide wingerd....i got some mixed results but won the carabao cup🎉 after seeing this video i can adjust some logical adjustments. Thnx again
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Hey Luton!!! Winning the Carabao Cup is a great achievement! I love any save with Luton, so consider me a fan of yours already haha. And yea, a Counter Tactic does take a lot of adjustments as you play. The bad thing is, sometimes you only know it's not working when you give up a goal haha
@johanvanbrakel2816
@johanvanbrakel2816 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker yes indeed a great achievement but i got really lucky with the opponents 😂. In the competition it goes up and down from a nice win (2-1) over Chelsea to a big defeat (5-0) to Brentford. Like you said before sometimes its best to keep it simple and enjoy the big wins and learn from your defeats.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
@@johanvanbrakel2816 In some of the Luton stuff I've done, I actually really enjoyed not having the pressure of needing to win EVERY match. Like if you're a top club, you basically have to win every match. But with Luton, we won 3 in a row and I was like that should hold us for the next 2 months from the bottom of the table 🤣🤣
@johanvanbrakel2816
@johanvanbrakel2816 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker i know exactly what you mean and thats why i love to play with smaller clubs but sometimes it can also be very frustrating......like i said i won from Chelsea with 2-1 (only got 2 shots on target 😁) and then lost to Brentford with 5-0 and we almost got the same amounts of (quality) shots 20-8 vs 18-7
@Brazio20
@Brazio20 Ай бұрын
AF & F9 could work, but you need to "support" F9 with runner that is taking advantage of the space left by F9, like you would do with DLF
@boxmanproductions321
@boxmanproductions321 Ай бұрын
Nah this guy is actually unreal! I dont normally comment on videos but im making an exception for you
@bosqueSP
@bosqueSP Ай бұрын
Every video increases in spectacularity (not sure if this is a word)
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Ha it's a word to me! Thank you!!
@ThaneofWills
@ThaneofWills Ай бұрын
Another incredibly useful video along with the halfback one you did. I have a concept for a team with similarities to your Leverkusen set-up but with the main difference being a shadow striker instructed to mark the right sided CM instead of a Mezalla. Do you think this would work well in encouraging the CWB to drift even further into the centre? Would the shadow striker drop deep enough to reform the 4-3-3 shape? can you tell me where you got that henley? will the SS need therapy and new legs after playing three matches?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
The important thing first: the henley is from the Gap. And on that topic, the henley is an underrated piece of clothing. If I ever did a video of "what is the top 5 underrated things to wear" a henley may be #1. As for your other question: if you'll allow me to promote myself, in case you haven't seen it my Deep Lying Forward/Shadow Striker combo video uses Leverkusen and a Shadow Striker. It's a 4231 instead of a 433, but it uses the same idea (sit back, hit on the counter). May give you some ideas on the how the role will play out. The Shadow Striker will work nice with the CWB. He'll drop deep to help with the build up but move up into the striker position as you move into the final third. Should give room for your CWB to do those CWB things. In defense, your mileage may vary with role. He'll help, but it's an attacking midfield so player attributes will have a big effect (namely work rate and teamwork). That was probably more than you wanted but there you go haha
@ThaneofWills
@ThaneofWills Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker A justly informative response, i've seen all of the videos you've put out. I think I have a tendency to forget that the SS does drop to build up instead of just waiting to surge on. The henley is very adaptable, bit like you guv.
@hungotuan4431
@hungotuan4431 Ай бұрын
We have a FM Simeone here 😂
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
I really love a 442 haha. If I ever make a video titled "These are my favorite formations" you won't even need to click on the video to know what my answer is
@vbl9276
@vbl9276 Ай бұрын
I don't mean this to be insulting to the great content creators out there who are constantly creating tactics - but your method is so much more realistic, and educational and I don't think you get enough credit for it yet. Hopefully The FM Show Podcast has you on to discuss your methods further. I have been using your possession tactic with some slight tweaks and find it so much more realistic while maintaining the challenge of the game - whereas most downloadable tactics seem to end up being "gamey." I hope you'll keep creating videos. Is there anywhere else to see your stuff or is this channel your primary?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Thank you that was very kind! I'd love to be on the podcast one day; and that's awesome that you've further adjusted the possession tactic! I find this way of tactic building more realistic as well. I like the element of "luck" involved in winning a match...you do what you can to put your team in the best position to win, and after that, it's out of your hands. And nope, pretty much just live here on youtube and in the comment section lol. I've looked into other avenues, but right at the moment, just here on YT.
@akbarmalik4130
@akbarmalik4130 Ай бұрын
Next advance playmaker 😊😊
@badboyz08
@badboyz08 Ай бұрын
didnt know about trap before ! useful as alway TY!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
It's a lot of fun to get creative defensive shapes!
@bentaygaxx3452
@bentaygaxx3452 Ай бұрын
i ve been waiting for this one !
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy/enjoyed it!!
@TomCannon7
@TomCannon7 Ай бұрын
Great video mate! Do you use any player instructions on your tactics? I gotta know because I’m really looking for a good counter attacking tactic
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Nope, no player instructions in these! Have fun with it haha
@TomCannon7
@TomCannon7 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker thank you! I have a game vs Bayern with with Hapoel Tel Aviv (Israeli club) and I’ll try it out
@makarov__
@makarov__ Ай бұрын
Bro thank you so much !!!!!
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Happy to help
@hugodaniel8764
@hugodaniel8764 Ай бұрын
Amazing Channel 🫵🤌
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@tristiadis
@tristiadis Ай бұрын
finally🎉
@pb5531
@pb5531 Ай бұрын
How about Possession tactic principles video sometime please? 😬
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
You're in luck! I've already got one on the channel and will be one of the more recent videos. It's there somewhere 👍
@sean5988
@sean5988 Ай бұрын
Hello everybody and welcome 😬
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Haha! I got the that from the Engineering Explained KZbin channel. Always liked how he started his videos with that in every video
@sirtbambson
@sirtbambson Ай бұрын
How would you setup pressing trap for a 3-man defense in a low block? Basically the weak areas of these formations are down the flanks but especially when you face a formation with an wide midfielder and full-back, they can work around the inside tripping easier.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Hmm.. that's a good one. I would probably still try the inside trap like in this video, but then use stop crosses instead. Keep our team wide the entire time and force them into our strength, the numbers in the midfield, and negate their strength out on the wings.
@sirtbambson
@sirtbambson Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker that's what I've been trying. Often leads to huge amount of corner kicks and eventually the team conceding as defenders are really bad at clearing the ball from set pieces this year. I'm trying to play a low block combined with a relatively high defensive line to compress the space away between our three main lines (CBs, WB & DM and AM+STs).
@rezii1945
@rezii1945 Ай бұрын
I was under the impression that "Trap inside" worked the opposite way, or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying here? By putting on invite crosses it sounds like you want a compact, narrow team, and force the opposition to the flanks, and close their possibility of cutting inside. Wouldn't trap inside ruin that? Doesnt that widen the team and try to shut down the flanks off the opposition? Or maybe I'm mixing them together. Is the "cross engagement" basically in the final third (our defense) and pressing trap in our final third/middle of the field?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Yea you're on it in the second part. So "trap inside/outside" works during their build up, when they're in their own half of the field and progressing the ball. The "stop/invite crosses" is when we're defending our final third. Meaning during their build up = our defensive shape is wide. This forces them centrally where winning the ball can be good for a counter. And then the defensive third = our defensive shape is compact. This either traps the ball or forces them out wide, taking away space for them in front of our goal. I'm not sure the exact minute in this video, but our goal stems from this trapping system. We play wide and force them into the center of the field and then close in around them and win the ball. It's a fun dynamic to add while defending!
@rezii1945
@rezii1945 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Interesting! I always thought I had to combine the right way to force them either on the inside or outside for both. This is cool! Maybe I can emulate the super narrow front 3 my team presses with and still invite crosses etc :)
@elsotanodelhorror810
@elsotanodelhorror810 Ай бұрын
Hi, i love the video but i have a question. Since you want to protect the center of the pitch, wouldnt it be wiser to trap them outside instead of insise? cheers
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
I know it seems like I'm answering both sides haha but yep! You are right. I am inviting them in to the center even though I want to protect the center. But winning the ball in the center can be better for a counter (more angles of passing when you win it as opposed to being on the sideline). And I only want to protect the center when they're near our goal, not necessarily every time they have the ball. This pressing trap allows them into the center (where it's better to win the ball) while also protecting the area in front of our goal if they get further. The best example of it is the trap that leads to our goal; allows them into the center where we trap the ball in the midfield and our counter starts. This is just one approach to trapping! There are many ways to use the pressing traps, and the one I used in this video was just one example of it. Hopefully this wasn't too confusing haha. I hope to make a video specifically dedicated to the pressing trap at some point
@FinlayBennett-kn5nj
@FinlayBennett-kn5nj Ай бұрын
Can we have a video on making a tika taka tactic please
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
I plan to continue our journey through the different tactical styles!
@MrBuda8
@MrBuda8 8 күн бұрын
Im playing still fm23 and more direct passing doesnt provide good results, players just efortlessly hit long balls and strikers cannot hold up ball or drop ball for other one, dunno if ME seems like it doesnt fit the best with more direct passing
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 8 күн бұрын
Yea, direct passes can really increase your turnover rate. It can be tricky to get working; feels like sometimes my players almost kick it to the opponent on purpose haha
@jakewallsgrove1977
@jakewallsgrove1977 11 күн бұрын
Hey so I wanted to make a tactic similar to Neil Warnocks philosophy which is very pragmatic and defensive. Would defensive mentality throughout a season be doable ?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 11 күн бұрын
hmmm; have you had some luck with the defensive mentality? or maybe even using the "play with more discipline" team instruction
@jakewallsgrove1977
@jakewallsgrove1977 10 күн бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I’ve had very mixed results. Some games I just get battered 5-0. Some games I get the 1-0 that i love haha. Im just trying to create a solid defensive team with some form of counter threat.
@tiagocoelho3377
@tiagocoelho3377 Ай бұрын
How do you deal with tactical familiarity? I always have difficulties with it when my players need to play a different player role or when I change the rythm or passing style.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
It's tough. I probably should pay attention/care about it more than I do, but I enjoy switching tactics (not for any special reason, just a pure enjoyment level). For me personally, I care more about squad dynamics and how they play together. So if your squad dynamics are in a good spot (meaning they've played together for a while, good dressing room, etc..) then I think you have more leeway in getting away with switching tactics. This is one of the reasons I like to bring up player personalities
@jakewallsgrove1977
@jakewallsgrove1977 7 күн бұрын
Do you find trap outside or trap inside better ?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker 7 күн бұрын
Depends on the team you're playing, but I like trap outside (generally) because the team will be more compact
@victorakeni2685
@victorakeni2685 Ай бұрын
Awww, man I thought it was Luton for real, lol
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Haha I thought I'd take a brief break from Luton.
@grokonigmayer132
@grokonigmayer132 Ай бұрын
Could you make a counter tactic even if you are one of the best teams in the league?
@joshuaadams7439
@joshuaadams7439 Ай бұрын
Sounds like gegenpress to me
@mystoganfullbuster2540
@mystoganfullbuster2540 Ай бұрын
I mean...you can. If you play counter with best team usually smaller team will just sit deep against you
@joshuaadams7439
@joshuaadams7439 Ай бұрын
@@mystoganfullbuster2540 well counter depends on having less possession usually so be wasteful and allow the opposition some joy to get counters Aka play like man U
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Definitely. Even with this video, I consider Leverkusen one of the top teams in the Bundesliga and they did great. I touched on it at the end of the video, but that's why I like to have multiple styles of the same formation. This way you can switch the tactic as needed during a match
@dicu4838
@dicu4838 Ай бұрын
Unrelated to the video but why does the game have a bias certain roles? For example, the game reccomends i play every winger as an inverted winger on support and most of my cm's are either carilleros or mezzalas
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
That I'm not too sure of; it may have to do with your assistant manager recommendations and what he favors. Or if a player has equal recommendations in two roles, the game has a set order list it goes off of
@dicu4838
@dicu4838 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker alright thank you very much
@Brazio20
@Brazio20 Ай бұрын
the recommendations is less of actual, good recommendations and more of "hey, this player has great passing, vision, decision, and composure, so I select DLP and AP because those roles are highlighting said attributes as key attributes."
@dicu4838
@dicu4838 Ай бұрын
@@Brazio20 ohhh i see thank you. i'm not the most experienced and i've gotten to the point where i use role ability calculators because even tho it's cheating, i actually know what my player is best at without my brain exploding
@Brazio20
@Brazio20 Ай бұрын
@@dicu4838 no problem. this is a single player game, the most important thing is to have fun so play it however you want to.
@Jack-ob5ou
@Jack-ob5ou Ай бұрын
You're using a different skin! What skin is that?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
It's the "Classics24" skin from FMScout. Been feeling a more traditional look and sometimes it's easier to screengrab whatever I'm using instead of changing skins lol
@Jack-ob5ou
@Jack-ob5ou Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Thanks dude
@csvickers151
@csvickers151 Ай бұрын
Problem is tactics that are attacking and countering in nature leave you open.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
Very true! Definitely a high risk tactic
@volkanpalut1993
@volkanpalut1993 Ай бұрын
TDLP: Space :D
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
If I don't mention space, did I even make a video??
@volkanpalut1993
@volkanpalut1993 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker not important. we love you brother.
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
@@volkanpalut1993 Much appreciated!! 🙌
@buzu555
@buzu555 Ай бұрын
It’s not Luton…. Damn, you mind reader!!🤣🤣
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
I seriously debated on doing a "now that we've done the smaller teams, let's head to the big club" and smash cut to Luton haha. But ultimately decided on Leverkusen
@buzu555
@buzu555 Ай бұрын
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker haha😅 do you think a counter tactic can be a main tactic? Like winning the league with a low block ?
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker
@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Ай бұрын
@@buzu555 I did a save with Leverkusen (it's the tactic from my DLF/Shadow video) and it's very similar to the tactic shown here. I think we finished 2nd or 3rd using just that tactic, so it's definitely possible
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