How to make a Portable Clean-Up Pump to Vacuum out a Pool

[@kendradauenhauer1518]

My husband made this pump this weekend and it works great! We saved a lot of money by not buying a portable vacuum system ($1,200+?). We spent about $200 on parts from Amazon. We needed this to vacuum pollen out of the bottom of the pool - which could not be caught by the pool filter system. We used the 1hp motor and it worked great. Pumps a lot of water. Takes time to prime. Have to make sure the hoses are filled with water... Took us about 10 mins to prime. But we are amateurs. Thanks for the video!

[@SPL]

+Kendra Dauenhauer nice. Priming can be a challenge. Some have installed a check valve in front to make priming easier. Glad it worked out for you and you saved $1,000.

[@RXPlus3]

I am having a horrible time priming this pump. Can you post a picture of a check valve installation? Thank you.

[@Ken-pf5yl]

You can fill your pool hose with your garden hose as much as possible first to avoid having to completely prime with the pool water.

[@cyrax1700]

Sir you're the best, swimming pool expert.. Thank you.

[@SPL]

👍

[@bemaco1]

TO ANYONE HAVING PRIMING ISSUES - take all the advice here very seriously when it comes to air leaks!!! I struggled to get my setup working using standard pool vacuum hoses on both the inlet and the outlet. Initially I used the blue ends of the hoses, which would normally attached to the vacuum at the pump and it would lose suction right away. Found that the blue ends of my hose were not air tight. Flipped it around to the white ends at the pump with some good hose clamps and not a problem since! Another tip ... if you have your main pool pump running at the same time, hold the vacuum over one of the jets to push water into the hose and prime the pump very quickly.

[@SPL]

Great Advice! 👍

[@patricksheehan8157]

I actually bought an above ground pump to vacuum my inground pool. My skimmer is broken. I was have trouble getting the air out of the line and I remembered your advice. I put the hose over the return while it was attached to pump and it primed the pump and got the air out of the line, it worked flawlessly and took about 1 minute. The above ground pump had no trouble vacuuming my inground pool. I put a fine mesh net over the return hose and put it back in the pool, it caught all the fine debris at the bottom also. I plan on adding a small sand filter and putting it on a cart like what the pro's use. Thanks for the great advice.

[@daveperkinsjr]

another good reason for this is you can vaccuum the pool before you open and start it in up in spring/summer. get all the nasty stuff out first and then open it. also he ignored wiring the pump in thisn video, just be sure the breaker, and the cord you use from pump to outlet, and the outlet is rated for the amps on the pump. usually 15 amp capability needed but checks pump specs. a 1 hp pump will normally draw something like 13-15 amps on a 115/120 outlet. also for maintenance vaccuuming you can use a 5 micron "sock filter" (look it up) and cable tie it to the discharge piping, and you dont have to vaccuum to waste. water discharge right back in the pool and not waste water. unless you have a lot of junk. 5 micron traps almost all small particles and algae before it goes back in the pool.

[@QuaabQueb]

Ha nice! Did this last year with an old pump cause my main one failed, you can also attach it to a cart or trolley to move it around easy, this is common at public pools

[@Jack-Surreal_Panes]

was thinking to do that. sort of a duh moment but I forgot to remove my tap hose from pool and detached from another hose to water plants. Needless to say, been draining all day. LOL. Now have to fill the darn thing! Never thought of bypassing the skimmer and go directly to pump. Will work great if you have an above ground and the water level drops too low when doing a lot of waste cleaning. This will help clean me clean out my pond.

[@joem8912]

Thanks for this video. I have a cartridge filter that clogs up quickly if I vacuum. This is such a simple solution.

[@notme22]

I did the same thing except I filled my pump basket with filter balls, so I can recycle the water and just use the return jet of the pool to prime my pump. Works great!! That Hayward Powerflo LX pump is a great self priming pump

[@SPL]

Great idea!

[@candyjosimpson1077]

Cool I’m replacing my pump with a variable speed pump at this seasons opening & wasn’t sure what to do with the old one , love recycling everything thanks so much !!

[@kavonstewart6834]

Tip: Made the pump suggested, in addition to the check valve feature to improve priming. Priming remained an issue. This alternative pump may do the trick: Hayward Power Flo II Aboveground Pool Pump. Caution, you may need to purchase the cord separately. This pool pump is self priming supposedly.

[@kavonstewart6834]

Hayward W3SP1780

[@SPL]

Thanks for sharing that. Self-Priming pumps are more expensive and heavier but can make priming easier. 👍

[@busted808]

This worked really well, bought exact setup on amazon. At first it didn't prime, then after filling the inlet hose with water, and filling the bucket with water, it worked perfectly! thanks for the video, bye bye algae and leaves.

[@SPL]

Great! Priming can be hard sometimes. I made a follow up video also to help with that - adding a check valve in front: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJK9eWuHoq-mm9U

[@mikejborneo]

@@SPL I bought the set up you recommend but the plug on the cord will not plug into a regular outlet. Did I buy the wrong model? I got the Hayward 1580TL

[@jnpies]

I bought this pump over 4 years ago after seeing this video just to have it on hand. I thought it was a great idea for cleaning the pool without putting anything in my pool filter. I hooked it up according to what I saw in this video but wanted the output to go to the main drain in the front yard, a distance of 120 feet. I ordered FLAT DRAIN HOSE for the output side, knowing that it was not what you used. You used regular round pool vac hose. The destination for the output was maybe 20 feet away from the pool, not 120 feet, as is my case. When I plugged the pump's cord into the outlet, things seemed normal for only a few seconds. The motor continued to run, but nothing was happening. I did prime the pump with a water hose, and it did pump for a few seconds, and the flat hose swelled to a rounded shape of about 2 inches in diameter, but that occurred to only the first foot of the output and went no further. Do you think it was flat drain hose that caused the problem? Would normal round pool vac hose work? I have some of that but haven't yet tried, or is the 120 foot distance too great even if replaced with regular pool vac hose? Thanks for some really great videos. You're a born teacher and a very good one.

[@SPL]

Try adding a check valve in front. That is a long distance. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJK9eWuHoq-mm9U

[@kelm1123]

That's brilliant, my pool guy has the same set up.

[@mrrobvs]

I'd love to see you build one of those mini vac ii type setups.

[@auston815]

i agree

[@TiffMoFlo]

This seems like the best way to use my old pump to clean up the algae sitting on the bottom. I'll report back in a few days. Thanks!

[@bonnykennedy4857]

Is there a way to hook up the hose with proper attachments to the pump so that you don't loose water from the pool?

[@hey.hombre]

I like it. What kind of inline filter can you install that would separate the dirt/sand from the pool? I would just recirculate the water.

[@SPL]

This is basically just for clean up purposes, although you can add any size cartridge filter to it.

[@Jack-Surreal_Panes]

Wonder if the intex sand filter I got with the pool would work. Used my old sand filter and Hayward on the intex pool so have this filter just sitting. guess buy and adapter, attach a vacuum hose an see if it works.

[@jimnicholson7634]

We have 115 foot lines to the pool from the pool filtration system room. The old inground pool pipes are leaking. This is a great idea for me as it vacuums in s l o w, motion as the lines are cracked and sucking air. The pool is 29,000 gallons. Thanks so much from Canada

[@SPL]

Great. You may need to install a check valve in front to help with priming. But yes, this works great for that.

[@MrRich42082]

Can someone make or share a video using this setup filtering the water back in the pool?

[@jpprice2555]

I swapped from Hayward SP1580 shown in video to to a self priming Hayward W3SP1780 Power Flow II, 1 hp self priming pump. Basically same size and weight and suction , but self priming feature makes your life a lot easier.

[@SPL]

Thanks for the post! That adds $100 to the price but will help those who may have priming issues. 👍

[@junior_4687]

Sadly thinking of getting rid of my sp1580 and getting the self priming power flo 2, does it work well is it much different from the power flo lx/1580

[@Catchafire2000]

Priming is a pain for me. A self priming pump would work wonders and save me so much time. Will try this next season.

[@PHILTRAVELCLUB]

Just wondering if I can buy the filter attached to the pump separately? where to get it is note is highly appreciated. Thank you

[@robertrobles6896]

Great video, why is it better to use an above ground pump instead of buying an inground pump?, Thanks

[@SPL]

+Robert Robles They are just priced less then an inground pumps and come with a cord you can plug in. You can splice a cord onto an inground pump and use it like this one also. Just more convenient.

[@robertrobles6896]

Oh ok, thanks the fast reply

[@lindseyvaiciulis1660]

You made this look so easy !

[@hrekum0]

Curious why with the inline canister you couldn't let the water be cycled back into the pool so you have little to no water loss. Especially if prime goal is to get the big stuff out.

[@SPL]

The canister will only filter out leaves and some dirt, the finer dirt and algae dust will go right back into the pool water.

[@thomasinajordon2298]

Thank you so much for this video. I had an old pump, thank goodness I didn't throw it away. Now I vaccum out my own pool. Yeaaaa

[@ericcendejas7505]

That is a pretty nice idea, purchasing one soon

[@karencohen6834]

can someone tell me the best way to prime the pump. Do I continually pour in water till it fills to the other end of the hose or should I use a garden hose.

[@anwaraslam7089]

Having the same issue.. any suggestions on priming the pump?

[@aylaofduni]

do you think i could run the outlet through a basket of nylon floss or something, suspended over the pool, so as to filter the sediment out and not lose the water? I have a lot of dead algae sediment to clear up and dont want to do a drain and refill.

[@tinachikwanda1941]

I am going to do exactly that. We have serious drought conditions and need a solution that doesn’t waste water Just put a small particle filter at the end of the waste pipe back into the pool.

[@azubli2358]

I would like to add the C250 filter to your setup. I assume it installs before the pump but would like to be sure? Also what fittings would I use from the filter to the pump so that I can permanently attach them with pvc pipe?

[@SPL]

Not sure off hand. A trip to your local pool store might be handy - you will have to get fittings anyway and they can give you everything you will need. I think that filter comes with 2" fittings but not exactly sure.

[@afaafa3679]

Nice video ... company who built our vinyl pool says never ever use pump to clean a vinyl pool since it might suck the vinyl off the floor. But I know of a few pro pool cleaners who use it on a vinyl pool ... any comment/experience? Thx.

[@SPL]

Would say a 1hp or 3/4 hp portable pump is fine. Would not use a 1.5 hp pump.

[@alanclark6295]

I created this same set up with brand new pump, filled the hose and pump with water to ensure full prime. It would vacuum for a few seconds then quit sucking and lose prime. I did not put the tape on the intake and out take fittings, could that one difference allow too much air in to maintain full suction?

[@SPL]

Probably be the problem. Try some tape or a joint stick on the threaded fittings.

[@TFYFWYA]

Are there any low cost filters, maybe a cartridge filter,that could be added to this set up? I have a very bad green pool situation, 10k gallons. I have a de filter with no vacuum to waste or bypass settings. It gets clogged in 20 minutes and I'm making zero progress and spending a fortune in de recharges. I need some way to bypass my de filter or I'll never get this cleaned up. Would really appreciate any suggestions. Thank you for all your wonderful videos!

[@SPL]

Thank for the great feedback! You would just vacuum to the waste with this so no filter is needed. Makes for very fast clean-ups.

[@natethetoe386]

That inline leaf canister. Do they make one with a filter material that can catch dust? Then you could put the return back into the pool?

[@SPL]

Yes, they have one with a cartridge filter in it.

[@javcontre222]

Nice I was thinking on trying the same thing, now I know is possible. Where did you get the big Filter for the leaves?... thanks

[@SPL]

It's called a leaf canister or leaf trap. Your local pool store or online.

[@oodjanthonyb]

Sorry for the silly question I'm fairly new to the trade and was wondering what the difference is between using one of these and a power vac with the small micron bag? Thanks I recently bought your videos!

[@SPL]

Power Vac is more for leaves and lager debris. A pump like this is mainly for dirt and algae dust. The fine micron bag is only 70 microns - so fine dirt and algae dust will pass right thru.

[@dannydee9919]

Thank you! What i was looking for. I have a question: What is the minimum power pump that can be used and still be effective. ?

[@SPL]

3/4 hp

[@adamc9147]

I'm thinking of using this pump and making it into a portable system for my route in thinking of either going with a c250 or c500 filter?.

[@SPL]

+Adam Covarrubias Good idea. They sell systems on pool carts already but you can make your own cheaper. I would go with the c250 - should be sufficent and easy to clean.

[@walidabraham8211]

Great video! I bought the same pump, but unfortunately I can't get it prime...

[@SPL]

Try adding a check valve to the front. Or a ball valve as some have done. That way water will stay in pump pot and allow easy priming.

[@walidabraham8211]

@@SPL I will try that! Thanks

[@l1Experiment]

I'm fairly new at this with this pump, How do you keep it primed because I'm not getting enough pressure. I fill up the pump but it won't stay filled, I went and bought the pump in the video based on your recommendations, but I can't seem to get the water to suck up. I'm thinking it's maybe because of the seal on the coupler, but I'm not sure... what say you brotha man? Please get back to me, kinda need your advice....

[@SPL]

Adding a check valve in front should do the trick.

[@ricardomiranda7737]

Been looking for winter vacuuming solutions and this helps. I'm concerned about buying the pump and not being able to rig with proper fittings to my Polaris 360 vacuum hose.

[@SPL]

+Rick Miranda I can pick up a scrap Polaris 360 hose on Monday and see how well it fits onto this portable pump for you. I think you can just clamp it on but I will verify for you early next week.

[@ricardomiranda7737]

+Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 awesome thanks! Tried lowes and their shelf adapters (1-1/4 inch) is too big. Let me know what you find out on Monday, thanks again.

[@ricardomiranda7737]

+Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 Hi, wanted to check back. Please let me know as soon as you get a chance...

[@SPL]

+Rick Miranda Sorry, got busy. I tried it just now and it doesn't fit the connector for that portable pump. The Polaris 360 hose is too small. Can't think of any way to get it on the fitting...

[@ricardomiranda7737]

+Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 thank you for checking on that. Please let me know if you figure out a solution. I'm willing to buy an external pump so I can vacuum my pool and drain. Was our pools first closing and they didn't vacuum after debris was ejected out from sediment build up (pool had been finished couple months before that). Also we got a lot of rain and water level is almost passing the top of the skimmer lid...

[@Spotikiss_rex]

Can you help with a schedule for a pool and spa on an easy touch so the spa is hot 90% of the time but giving the pool sufficient time to clean please help

[@seanstrickland4970]

Very very old pool that doesn't have a designated vacuum pump. When the main pump is used it takes most the power from the jets. Gonna have to give this a try

[@SPL]

Should work for you.

[@garylai800]

I purchased a 1 HP above ground single speed pool pump Radiant System and followed this video but cannot get pump primed, I even placed the pump within a few inches from the top of the water line in the pool. I checked all hoses no leaks and even applied water pressure via a garden hose inserted into the vacuum end of the inlet hose waited until the chamber was filled then wife covered chamber and turned the pump on, got good suction for 5-10 seconds then no suction. Could it be an impeller problem even though new pump..??

[@SPL]

I just finished a video on how to install a check valve to the front for easy priming. Easy to install and makes priming breeze. I will send you the link later tonight.

[@SPL]

Here is the video for you - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJK9eWuHoq-mm9U

[@SUBZEROUKS]

Gary Lai inlet is taking in air

[@ChuckD59]

I know this is old, but I have a Hayward Superpump. Similar design and you clearly have an air leak somewhere. Think about what's happening: everything from the impeller to the water surface must be completely airtight. That includes the cover of the chamber which is often a source for leaks. I make sure the groove that the gasket sits is well silicone grease and that gasket is in properly and then use a silicone grease on top of the gasket where it mates with the face of the cover. Then also you need to be sure the intake connection and the end of the hose are completely airtight too. Threads need to be teflon taped, Fill the chamber with water, clamp it shut and connect the hose. Start the pump. On my setup there's a 40' run to the pool and it may take a minute or two to get the flow going.

[@christringale149]

Is there a way to do this without losing water. Some type of straining system

[@dylan833-k2i]

Sorry for bothering you so much. Can this set up work for 3-4" of mud. I'm wondering if I can use this set up at work for cleaning cooling towers. Usually I use a 6hp wet vac after draining one tower cell basin.

[@SPL]

Don't think it will work for that.

[@macrey360]

Do you think one of these pumps you use here could be attached to say a 100 sq ft cart filter? Or should you go selfpriming?

[@SPL]

It can be but if you have the filter on a cart a self-priming pump would work better.

[@jeffrosen8130]

great tips. I have an in ground 20 x 40 pool. I must have a small leak in my lines because I loose pressure in less than a minute when I vacuum through my filter. I was planning on buying an extra pump as you suggest. to save money would it work if I bought an Intex 2500 GPH filter /pump to use on my pool. I thought this way I could run the filtered water that was vacuumed back into pool. is this powerful enough to get the job done? Do the Intex products work?

[@SPL]

Jeff Rosen I think that system is too weak for your needs. Maybe spend some time trying to isolate the air leak so you can vacuum.

[@nomeelynn]

I've got a 1.5 hp sta rite max e glass II 220v pool pump that I can wire direct to my house. Is this too much suction to work? Will the 220v be an issue? I won't be putting a plug on it. Just wired direct.

[@SPL]

Should be fine.

[@CroatianNinja]

I just came across an almost brand new power flow to pump the problem is it doesn't have a cord to make it portable do you think I can just buy like a 10 gauge cord attach it and then be able to plug it in the wall

[@SPL]

You should be fine as long as it is a 1 hp pump.

[@jeffmorris8736]

We made this exact setup other than using a collapsible backwash hose to drain and could not get the pump to prime even when filling the pump first just kept draining right out ....pump is not self priming ...any suggestions please ?

[@SPL]

Installing a check valve in front will solve the issue in most cases. Easy to do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJK9eWuHoq-mm9U

[@alexandradasilva6118]

Hi, I really like your videos.. We purchase the same pump you showed in this video to use to vacuum our pool, but it didn't suck the water out. Our pool is 30000 gallons in ground, do we to buy your buy one with more horse power?? Thank you very much!!

[@teocorona3386]

How did you fix it. I have the same issue

[@sunilthapa2439]

Sir when we start vaccuming which wall should be open vaccum and steamer together or vaccump only

[@miguelhoward1621]

Hey Dave I bought this set up with new hoses and vacuum head but after several hours cannot get the pump to keep a prime. It will start out by just trickles and dies. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks for any feed back

[@SPL]

Try adding a check valve to the front. It could be the hoses are letting a little air into the system. In the description of this video are the parts you need. Very easy to do. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJK9eWuHoq-mm9U

[@miguelhoward1621]

@@SPL thank you for the feed back and will give this a try.

[@miguelhoward1621]

Hey Dave I built and added the check valve and still will not prime. New pump , new check valve , new hoses. New vacuum head. When I attempt to prime the hose contracts and small gush of water flows but then nothing. The only thing I have not tried is electrical tape around inlet and outlet. On way to store for tape , any thoughts are greatly appreciated! I need this to work ..

[@blissparkresort]

Thank you for this great tip. Just curious, Can I return the water back to the pool? I am afraid of losing a lot of water.

[@SPL]

Not without a filter attached to it. Will just be dirty water at that point

[@battlefocus]

I purchased the items put it together and primed it like you instructed on the video and it didn't prime to work i tired multiple times and nothing is there a technic?

[@SPL]

Make sure the fittings are on tight, I use a garden hose and a drain bladder if I run into trouble on the intake portion. Some have installed a check valve also.

[@battlefocus]

ok ill try that next.

[@realmcraftchronicles]

Ive tried this. I am using a heyward above ground pump, but it is not priming are there any recommendations you can make? I have two hoses connected using the same type of connectors, but the water just wont flow.

[@SPL]

You can build a check valve for the front - very easy. Covering the discharge hose on back with your hand also can help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJK9eWuHoq-mm9U

[@realmcraftchronicles]

@@SPL Thanks! I'll order up the parts now

[@sbowiel13]

Hey do you have the link on that canister filter?

[@SPL]

It's a Pentair Leaf Trap

[@professorwhaley]

Nice. I was thinking about doing the same thing for my pool but using a $70 Intex Above Ground Cartridge Filter Pump (2500Gph) instead of the Hayward 1hp...and using an inline leaf trap too. I have a lot of pollen in my pool so I thought this might be a solution for leaves+pollen. Do you think Intex pump/filter will have enough suction power to do the trick? Thanks.

[@SPL]

I doubt that it will have enough power. The 1 hp pump is the best choice

[@LobsterUpgraded]

great video. I have a brand new flotec 1/2 hp shallow well jet pump. a lent trap and basket and a small sand filter. I was thinking about putting it on a cart or floor dolly and use it whenever the pool gets really dirty. The actual pump(impeller,inlet,outlet) on the front of the motor is not as large as a typical pool pump but with the right fittings I could attach the lent trap and the sand filter. Can you think of any issue with this rig? I am just thinking the GPM won't be spectacular but still usable as a back up.

[@AaronLeeIV]

Can you recommend a more economical friendly option to home owners? I am thinking using a Submersible Pump, sth around 1hp. The only time I would need this is when I need to vacuum dust/dead algae which are too fine for the filter. Buying that SP1580 seems like overkill for me.

[@SPL]

It is an investment and the pump will last for years. For about $250 you can build a good portable pump. I don't think it is really overkill if you plan on using it for years to come.

[@AaronLeeIV]

@@SPL Thanks for taking the time to reply! k, I guess I will listen to the professionals. :-)

[@zigman3105]

Thanks brah. My exact pump brand. Thanks for the info. Great info!

[@hllywd964]

Having trouble priming the pump... I bought the same one as you... Any tips? I tried pouring water in the basket like you do in the video.

[@SPL]

hllywd964 Just used mine again today also. If it doesn't prime after 1 minute. I will unplug it and pour water in again. Usually it will catch. I will also hold my hand around the intake hose over the fitting to create a better air tight seal - kinda squeeze the vacuum hose with my hand around the fitting. I've also covered the outlet hose with my palm to create an air seal on that end also before and it primed up. But it could take up to a minute to prime up in some cases. Worst case you can stick a garden hose into the vacuum hose - this works best with the canister hook up I show, as priming it through the small 3 ft hose with the garden hose is optimal.

[@hllywd964]

ok, I'll try it out, thanks!

[@SUBZEROUKS]

inlet is catching air

[@lisahall8400]

We got this to work last year but we are struggling getting this to work this year any suggestions

[@SPL]

Try adding a check valve to the front. Maybe your pool hose has an air leak.

[@tinaho3392]

Hi I bought this exact pump and fittings. Just got pump today and hooked it up. I'm not getting an y suction and am being told that I need to install this below the waterline. Yours is sitting right on the pool deck. Is there anything I need to open or check on the new pump? If I fill the basket, it spins as it should but the water drains out and doesn't suck in water, so the basket goes empty. Any advice? My regular pump is being serviced but I need to get my pool cleaned as fast as possible, and wanted to try vacuuming.

[@SPL]

It needs an air tight seal. Make sure hose coming in and the hose going out are on their air tight. It will prime.

[@tinaho3392]

It's on there tight, clamped for good measure. Hoses are good cuz they worked on other pump before it died. Is not having pump below the water line an issue at all? Doesn't seem like it for you.

[@SPL]

Try adding a check valve in front in that case. Easy to do. Prime A Portable Clean-Up Pump: Installing a Check Valve: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJK9eWuHoq-mm9U

[@Hubjeep]

Great video! I see some pool pros with your setup on a hand truck and a small cartridge filter like a C500 hayward. What size motor is your pump? Thanks

[@SPL]

1 HP. Anything larger puts out too many Amps and can trip the GFI breaker.

[@Hubjeep]

@@SPL Thanks, I was thinking about going with a 3/4 for that reason. Would a pump designed for in-ground pools have better self-priming capability?

[@SPL]

@@Hubjeep Good choice. In-ground would have better self-priming. You would need to splice a cord on to plug it in and they are heavier. I like the Above Ground ones because they are very light and come with a cord.

[@Hubjeep]

@@SPL Thanks again... I may make one up on a hand truck with cartridge filter to vac out my pool.

[@hiteshk]

Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL I prime mine but it doesn’t last, as soon as I turn the pump on, only the after from the prime leaves and no new water comes in. What should I do?

[@justinfancher999]

Will this pump work on below ground pools. It says for above ground

[@SPL]

It will work fine for quick clean up situations. Not designed for long term use however.

[@rynophiliac]

Hi and thanks for the videos! We get a lot of green pools in Phoenix with sand filters. The sand filters seem to maintain a blue pool OK but when it turns green it has a hard time bouncing back on sand alone. I've been thinking about making a portable unit like this with a cartridge filter and diverter that I can use to vacuum the pool then leave at the pool to offer better filtration over the sand to help the pool bounce back to clear blue. I'm hoping to get maximum filtration in 24 hours so big pump and big filter. Thinking of using the Hayward SP1580X15 for 1.5 hp. What size cartridge filter would you recommend if the pump and filter were both mounted to a wheel cart?

[@SPL]

Check out the TomCat TopGun pump/filters. I will be reviewing them soon on my channel.

[@rynophiliac]

I checked those out and they look nice but seem kind of expensive considering what the parts can be purchased for. Filter seems small but maybe thats ok for a unit that won't be running every day. I look forward to the review on your channel.

[@sunsetstripboston]

I made this pump and after I fill with water it expelles the water and l I ses prime. I have no air leaks. On my second pump sane problem. What is the issue?

[@realfazey]

I've been doing pools for about 3 years now. I finally decided to bite the bullet and buy a separate pump to set up a "power vac" of sorts. I went with a local brand called blue torrent and I got they're 56 frame 1.5 hp inground self priming pump. It had both 2 in opening so I used a threaded reduced fitting which made it 1.5" and then did everything as you said. I believe the pump you used is an aboveground pump so I went with inground because I figured it would prime itself but it is not keeping prime. It is able to move water but at a very slow pace considering it's a gigantic 1.5 hp pump and it should be self priming. There is abt 1.5 inches of air in the basket and the suction is extremely weak. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Could there be a leak in the vac hose? Also I am using on of those blue backwash hoses on the discharge side. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[@SUBZEROUKS]

Minhaal Faizi It is catching air. Get some. High temp unions and reduce to 1.5 with a threaded side. Use a good amount of teflon tape.

[@robrichman3314]

Question, why do you have the outlet going to a drain? why not put it back in the pool? Can you use this portable filter pump if my main filter/pump is bad but can't get it replaced yet.. can i just use this type of setup? or is this just for cleaning.

[@SPL]

You would just need to add a small cartridge filter to make it work as a spare equipment pad.

[@jackd.]

Could I use an Intex Sand Filter Pump in a similar way?

[@SPL]

Yes.

[@steezythreads6949]

hi,,may i ask where to buy this kind of vacuum hose and other stuff here in philippines?

[@SPL]

Not sure exactly.

[@biggstell]

Instead of connecting a vacuum hose can I use a blue backwash hose?

[@SPL]

biggstell I haven't tried it with the blue backwash hose, I think it will work fine. I just have a lot of pool hoses lying around.

[@chrispayton591]

This is a great idea! But will it work with most above ground pool pumps? Or does it have to be this particular Hayward pump? I am under the assumption that most above ground pool pumps do not have the power to draw water vertically, but I might be wrong.

[@SPL]

+Chris Payton It works well. Some have added a check valve in front for easy priming.

[@IslandPhotoNews]

Good info..can you recommend a source for that in-line filter. Thanks!

[@SPL]

Amazon carries all those parts including the pump

[@christianaldrich4108]

Can you please tell where I can find a vacuum head like yours?

[@SPL]

Pentair Pro Vac. You can find it on Amazon.

[@dieselstar5]

I was thinking with the inline canister installed, why not installed a portable filter at the end of the drain hose then return the filtered water back into the pool? 🤔

[@SPL]

You can get this cartridge for the Pentair Leaf trap and have the water go back into the pool. Pentair R172653 25 Square Feet Cartridge with Plug Replacement Leaf Traps

[@aloliva787]

I cannot get my pump to draw water,I followed your build exactly and can't make it work,any suggestions?

[@SPL]

Try adding a check valve or ball valve in front.

[@seanstrickland4970]

Could you use it with a pool vacuum that moves its self?

[@SPL]

Yes.

[@javieruriel]

I need to buy something already made do you sell that kit? Send me the link to buy

[@SPL]

Advantage Manufacturing sells one

[@musaabsi]

my pool pump system is in underground room which has almost no ventilation except for one window , its full of dry acid gas , any suggestion of how to get rid of the acid gas?

[@SPL]

Try one of those plug in filtered air purifiers - the large 2-3 ft models. They work really good and may clear the air.

[@joshmcdermott1685]

I actually just put one of these together yesterday to help clear up an above ground pool. I ended up going with a Pentair pump due to availability at local warehouse. I had a question regarding vacuuming. I stuck my commercial rainbow vacuum head and connected into the pump to vacuum out debris in an above ground pool. There was so much suction in the system despite having a 50 foot hose on it that I was unable to vacuum the pool. Is this because of the vacuum not being rated for above ground or is this due to the power of the pump. Any suggestions for which vacuum to use for this type of scenario?

[@SPL]

Power of the pump. I suggest inserting a cleaner regulator valve inline - you probably have a few of those in your truck. You can always use a brush vac but the speed of those makes it a real pain. Inserting a suction side cleaner regulator and opening it all the way yup should regulate the flow.

[@realfazey]

Josh McDermott I wish I had that problem haha. I can barely get any suction and if u saw the size of the pump I got you wouldn't believe it. I went with the local blue torrent brand even though I came in set on buying a Hayward super pump, because it was so big and just seemed like a complete monster. Yet it has little to no suction

[@joemc111]

You sir are always to the pool. I have to put one of these together.

[@KJ7BZC]

Can I attach a cord to a Pentair Whisperflo pump and do this also? I've also got some hot tub pumps, would those work?

[@SPL]

Needs to be 1 hp or less to plug directly in to your wall socket.

[@KJ7BZC]

I'm assuming that is because of amperage draw, right? Also thanks for the fast reply!

[@Spotikiss_rex]

How do I make the perfect schedule on an easy touch for a pool and spa need spa to be warm 90% of the time 😊 any suggestions can you give me times that will best work with the system single filter system pool and spa run off both so they need to alternate can you help?

[@SPL]

Andrew Waycotte Depending on when you need to use your spa you can run your pool for one cycle first then add a Spa program to follow. Have the spa program running for the hours you want on a speed to activate the heater, I can't remember the minimum RPM for the heater off hand. Then when you are ready to use it crank up the RPM's, the spa will be hot already. Page 27 of the manual will show you how to set a spa program. Of course everyday the spa will flow out into the pool but if you set it up like this it will be reheated by the time you need it. I filmed a basic video on the EasyTouch that you might find helpful - EasyTouch® Pool and Spa Control Programming Schedule, Cleaner, Pump RPM, Salt: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHibnZemfrWci7M

[@tannerwattenbarger1876]

After I’m done pool tile blasting all the media falls to the bottom would this system work to take out all the media?

[@SPL]

Should work fine for that purpose.

[@tannerwattenbarger1876]

Okay so over time after sucking 55 lbs of sand each time would it cause any damage to the motor?

[@SPL]

I don't think it would.

[@tannerwattenbarger1876]

Okay thank you

[@adamc9147]

I Arity have one it's 120 square-foot cartridge with a 2 horsepower whisper flow. It's just too clunky. Want to make something more portable i'm not sure to go with just a regular dolly or a T dula since I have dual hitch

[@cjbanksful]

Thanks Dave your video was very helpful.

[@charlieTexasgirl]

I. Eed help I bought this I Filled filled both lines and filter basket when I turn it basket sucks dry y bc basket is empty. help!!

[@SPL]

Try adding a check valve to the front.

[@123ksanchez]

Hey man I been having some problems with the pump, it won’t suction any of the debris in the pool and all the water in the filter gets sucked right away please help!!

[@123ksanchez]

By the way I’m trying to use it as a portable clean pump for my in ground pool

[@SPL]

It could be your pool hose letting air into the pump. Installing a check valve in front usually solves the issue.

[@KJ7BZC]

Do i have to attach the bonding connection to anything?(the little metal screw on the outside casing of the pump)

[@SPL]

No. As long as the outlet is GFI rated

[@Orozcoi7]

How are you able to use an ABOVEGROUND pool pump to vacuum an INGROUND pool? Those are designed to be gravity-fed systems, so how is it that the pump is able to pull water if the return-line is below the pump?

[@fsutim3]

Same question. I cannot get full prime. Everything is air tight too.

[@SPL]

If you add a check valve in front priming will be easy: XTREMEPOWERUS SWIMMING POOL SPA PUMP POOL SPRING CHECK VALVE INLINE CONTROL (1.5")

[@SPL]

It will prime if all the lines are air tight. But adding a check valve in front is the best way to ensure good priming.

[@panchaabel]

I'm trying a portable pool pump but the suction isn't strong enough is that WY it won't vacuum inground pool ?

[@SPL]

If it is 1 hp that should be sufficient. Anything less may struggle.

[@MediocreGamingHQ]

Those green pools still looked a bit cloudy. What about adding a flocculant 2-3 days prior to your vac to waste?

[@SPL]

You can. But if you wait it will all settle down and clear up,

[@Spotikiss_rex]

Hours wise how do I make them coexist for example (7am-3 pm pool 3:01pm-7pm spa 7:01pm-3am pool 3:01am-6:59am spa) would that work?

[@SPL]

Andrew Waycotte You really don't need to run the pool that long -unless it is massive. How many gallons of water are we talking about?

[@nicolemarie2393]

Great idea thank you very much for sharing

[@Daveate1ate]

I have a hayward model sp1580x15, I'm trying this. But no suction?

[@SPL]

Try adding a check valve to the front. Very easy. Here is a good one - Magic Smart Check Valve 1.5 inch Union x Union Clear 0823-15C

[@Daveate1ate]

@@SPL ok cool, any other reasons ?

[@SPL]

@@Daveate1ate Old hose in front. I recommend a new or newer pool hose.

[@Daveate1ate]

@@SPL Do you think a hose on the OUT makes a difference as well?

[@Daveate1ate]

@@SPL Do both hose make a difference? Like should both ends connected matter that much ?

[@ricardomiranda7737]

I'm trying to run the Hayward but seems am having some issues getting a vacuum to develop in the primer. Sucks all water out of the primer and then that's it, no flow. Did anyone have any issues like this...

[@SPL]

+Rick Miranda It takes a bit of effort sometimes to get it primed. Try using a bucket again. I usually use a canister so the 3 ft hose works well vs the 40 ft of hose. It will prime, just keep at it.

[@ricardomiranda7737]

+Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 I filled up the primer container first, then I took the other end of the inlet hose and filled it using a garden hose until hose was overflowing. Quickly connected that end to the vacuum head, as close to pool surface as possible, then dunked head in pool and then plugged in pump. This worked like a charm.

[@shakapedia17]

Check also for air leaks on the vacuum hose side (in flow). I couldn't get mine to prime just because I had attached the vacuum head end of the hose to the ingress side of the pump rather than to the vacuum head, (it's the one that swivels more, and it also lets in more air). Depends on the type of hose too, as some hoses are identical on both ends. The hose I got was from Walmart and it definitely has one end that is more air leaky, and it is so by design. But if you look closely it has a notice faintly imprinted on the hose end, "attach this end to the vaccum head". As soon as I turned the hose around...it primed just fine.

[@daveperkinsjr]

fill the hose with water, then fill the pump with your bucket, make sure gasket and drain plugs are tight, make sure hose is tight and the inlet adapter is screwed in all the way. make sure the vaccuum head is under water. should prime...

[@zacharyw.lawson7170]

That is an above ground pump how did you get it to work on inground pool

[@SPL]

It can work fine for clean-up purposes. But not to power an in-ground equipment pad.