How to make a torsion spring

[@TheGeekPub]

Never worry if something is too simple. There's always someone who doesn't know how to do something (or is at a different stage in learning than you are).

[@lanchanoinguyen2914]

TheGeekPub that's right,we can't make alone,we can do great a field while people would do other fields better or they're not exhaust of thinking so they can easily make solution.

[@53jed]

The Geek Pub. Zachary - I never knew. Now I do. Standing on the shoulders of giants and all that, or just being willing to learn.

[@lawrencebartel5605]

I watched your video to see if it was even possible for me to make my own spring. It answered my question. Yes, I now know it is possible and will try it soon. Thank you for posting the video. It told me what I needed to know.

[@muskokamike127]

There is that saying there's many ways to skin a cat and some may need an idea on an easier way to do something. There IS a more complex way of making a torsion spring but your way achieves the same result a lot more simply.

[@muskokamike127]

@Mike Hegarty Me too! I've been woodworking for 20 years but watch em all because who knows? Maybe someone has come up with a better/easier way. For eg: I watched a video by William Ng (I think that was his name). Saw him using vernier calipers. I've worked with certified Master Carpenters who didn't. I picked up a cheap pair for $10 and the quality and ease of my work has increased 10 fold.

[@peggyt1243]

Jeremy: you have grown significantly in your videos since I first subscribed. It is wonderful to see your self confidence blossom.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+peggyt1243 Thank you!

[@tybrady4598]

For me, this was a video on how to make springs. Exactly what I needed. Music wire? Never heard of it in regard to this is what’s needed to make springs. Now I know, thanks!

[@byonbill9499]

I have been "fooling around" making things for over sixty years and would not have thought to try making a torsion spring that large until I saw it done. It's the visual medium that does the trick. Your presentations are very professional.

[@th30519]

Don't feel silly... some people's "so simple it doesn't seem worthy for a video" is other people's "dang, he's hard core... I'll never be able to do that". Your content and approach are enjoyable, even for people who will never in their lifetime build their own machines like you do.

[@robinotto7419]

Your description was very clear. With the spring steel wire, without heat treatment, sometimes tight bending can fracture the said wire. In the case of yours, clearly it was ‘outside’ those limits. Thanks for the good video.

[@heriberthuber54]

Totally worth it. Make more of those small, "silly" videos and I'll watch them all :-)

[@Nightman2152]

Cool! This old tony has a good spring making video as well. His was more showing off fancy spring tools and yours was more about getting it done for the sake of the project you needed the spring for originally. Learned a bit from both. Everybody has gaps in their knowledge and nobody knows everything so anything you feel like sharing is a contribution to the online knowledge library. It doesn't matter how simple it is! Personally I watched this video because I wanted to see how YOU make springs because I like your style. Another person may prefer a different way to make springs entirely. My point is any experience you want to share with youtube is not a waste. A person gets better at something with experience. By sharing our experience on the internet we can all learn a lot and do a lot more in a lifetime then our fathers and grandfathers. Thanks for sharing Jeremy! Hope all is well in Arizona!

[@poja82]

Piano wire, or "music wire", is a specialized type of wire made for use in piano strings. It is made from tempered high-carbon steel, also known as spring steel, which replaced iron as the material starting in 1834

[@cgodlove]

Dude! I'm SO glad you made and posted this. After not being able to find the torsion spring I need to bring a cantilever outdoor umbrella back to life, I wondered if I could make my own. During my search for a spring, I saw reference to music wire, which was new to me, so your video rang bells. Thanks so much!!

[@thatoldbob7956]

I should have a grandchild like you are, he would have appreciated things I did in my life. I was a grandchild like you are but I never had that much room to move around. You are doing very well, keep it up, it's enjoyable. The grandfather.

[@original5065]

I just used this method to make a spring, very good. One improvement to the method is to first bend an inch of one end of the wire to 90 degresss. trapping this bend against your holding bolt, under the washers, will remove the need for a drill bit as a spacer and (more importantly) stop the wire from twisting at all whilst you are bending. Doing this my springs came out with virtually no slant on them.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

Good point, thanks for the tip!

[@hansdegroot8549]

Great video. Very well explained. "Too simple" things do not exist. Everybody has his own level of capabilities. For somebody it's easy to build a spring but I think the majority of people never made one. It was very interesting to watch this video. Thanks for sharing.

[@cliffsmith4907]

Actually, this is one piece of info that I have been looking for...

[@Lostpanda123]

Nothing is wrong with this post! You should upload even more if you have the capacity to do so. There are a lot of novice out there, I'm one of them, and every bit of new information is valuable! Keep it up!

[@markmorton2519]

I’ve had your grinder plans for about a year, slowly building, acquiring parts, been stuck on the damn hay baler finger for a couple weeks haha, thank you google... and Jeremy:)

[@beepaw1]

Trust me, it's well worth making a video. Now I can make my own torsion spring for the safety guard on my jointer. Thanks a million

[@w6263]

Any creation is not silly. Thought and process goes into every idea no matter how simple. Simple is good and people understand; talk above people's heads and you fail! Great video!

[@mattmadison4731]

I have a tbi so my English sucks and it's the only language I ever learned so thank you for making the video it is great to put knowledge out there and what seems simple for one is a wonder for someone else not everyone grew up in the same great or terrible life so a doctor knows how to fix a cold but can't change a tire a mechanic knows how to fix a car but can't do brain surgery so thank you what maybe of seemed silly to you was a great video for so many people

[@robertkerr3059]

wow, its 94 degrees and you are not even breaking a sweat, rockstar springmaker !

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+Robert Kerr It helps a lot to have a Portacool blasting directly on you! :) It doesn't cool the shop really; but it makes a comfy spot right in front of it.

[@patw999]

Yep, completely worth your time to make and post. Not all of us see the same obvious that others see while I might see an obvious that you don't, Good job

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+patw999 Thanks!

[@gumby3057]

Good work. Makes me miss my old job where I had access to all the tools, welder, torches etc. to do just about anything.

[@jimdennett46]

Good to see a young man doing skilled work. Proud of ya son good job!!

[@n.randall6152]

I need a Torsion spring for a go kart gas pedal. Manco no longer sells them. Thank you for the video!

[@AndyUK-Corrival]

It’s only simple if you know how to do it. I was looking for exactly this so thanks for sharing. Andy UK

[@HairyTheCandyMan]

I wish I had an Arduino shirt!! Also thanks for the video! I'm about to make a torsion spring and I'm glad to have some tips

[@wagdyziada4503]

Definitely worth it, and I felt that after I did read all the the viewers positive comments which learned me much, thank U 4 sharing, and by the way I like your (DIRESTA) T-shirt.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+Wagdy Ziada Thank you!

[@vallejokid1968]

It was totally worth it. Thanks for posting.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+Alex Gordon There's the reassurance my anxiety needed. Thanks! :D

[@danielmilloy7807]

AGREED!

[@AnthonyTackett]

Agreed. Definitely worth it. Nice video!

[@imortaldeadead]

Thank you for sharing, I for one wouldn't have thought about doing it. Now we all can see how easy it is to make 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@velocitymg]

I am about as handy as a paper umbrella, but I think with your instruction...Naah, who am I kidding, I’ll never be able to build stuff like you, but it’s very cool to watch you work..thanks for the inspiration and the dreams.

[@cybercapri]

It is a very worthy video, not everyone would think to make their own tension spring out of Piano Wire... Remember just because you find things easy does not mean everyone else will... Food for thought... Cheers...

[@sytoo8983]

You need not apologise just because you think it is simple. For me it was genius. I have to make torsion springs for hand clamps but did not know how to go about it. Thanks to you now i know what to do.

[@kareno8634]

i am so glad things are easy for some, if not most ppl. i tend to misinterpret what i read, or trying to describe what's needed or ask questions that others understand is frustrating. I Will Always Welcome instructions about anything, even if i don't get it at first. (1st time on planet~E) Thanks for Your Time! ~ peace

[@Crewsy]

There is nothing that is ever too simple just as there is never a stupid question. Keep the videos coming and answering all those questions.

[@craigsudman4556]

Nice work-a-round for re-bending the spring. Thumbs up.

[@markissboi3583]

Temp springs after forming about 230deg or 110cel > Quicker way use a gas flame till brown wont sag . 1 off does the trick springsteel leaf using for chisels & such temp red hot then soak in oil then re temper back 250deg ting!

[@jeffbeck6501]

oh that metal saw. I love. It was going so slowly and so nicely. Not much noise.

[@ebw_servant_of_GOD]

Thanks I just learned something new. Never needed to make a torsion spring before. EBW USN Ret

[@lar7905]

Don't have a use for such a thing now. But the principle of how to make it was learned. Great ,great presentation. The "use yourhead" joke was a riot. Your tongue in cheeck expression was hilarious. Thank for the video

[@pigseye2]

Great video and you just gained a new subscriber! This not too simple to post. Watching you go through the process and even having to make some corrections on the fly was very informational. You are also great at creating, editing, and narrating videos. Please keep posting simple videos! Thanks so much.

[@TheSib]

It wasn’t too “silly” for me! I needed to know if heating and quick cooling in oil was necessary. Guess not! ThNk you for taking the time to make and post this!

[@rosstrue1]

Thank you. It is simple but I would rather see someone else try it first. Good video. Thanks

[@alanharding8762]

its great to see younger men and woman getting into this stuff,good man good stuff.from the uk.

[@antoniogargiulo9491]

it gets me a good idea of how a torsion spring works while I'm studying for Modellistic and simulation exam! Good man!

[@johnbeckman8916]

Nice! Jimmy would be proud.

[@orange_cat]

It's been a few years since I subscribed to any KZbin channel. This video made it happen again.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

Thank you! Glad you found it helpful.

[@jimsjacob]

Good to see you post!

[@jimhester2004]

You're right that if the loose end of the wire gets away from you, it can do you some damage. I did that making a spring out of heavy copper wire, and even that cut my finger pretty good. I used a bolt for the mandrell so that the coils would approximately follow the threads, and it wound pretty close that way. I think this is a valuable video, especially for those who are going to build your grinder. The safety factor alone was needed. I should have known that you're a farm guy. We learn how to do a lot of things that other folks don't get the opportunity to. Thanks for the video!

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+Jim Hester I just hope I made the safety aspect clear enough. Makes me cringe to think of what could happen. I agree, farm kids get a lot of exposure to mechanical wonders, as well as the ingenuity required to fix them.

[@philmortlock259]

Who was born knowing how to make a spring ? Frikin no-one great video as I believe rough seas are afoot and I'm def prepin.

[@jtaylor8606]

This was defo worth a video, really useful thanks

[@mbatson13]

Never would have figured out how to make my own spring... that would have been a HD run every time for me. Thanks for sharing.

[@brandonryder3632]

I watch every video you make, even when I'm not interested in the topic specifically, because everything you do is interesting, and I always learn something. So thank you!

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+Brandon Ryder Thank you!

[@andreasmakarewitsch1978]

'I feel a little bit silly ....' ..... but the entertainment value is priceless, esp. the advice on how to use one's head- not always as straight-forward as it seems. Thanks, mate.

[@sirosisofdeliver223]

Hey Jer, you’ve posted a very good and informative video. Thank You !!! 😊

[@dakotamax2]

Never seen anyone make their own torsion spring. Also never heard of "music wire." Thanks for posting!

[@jerryevans5210]

Use a piece of pipe over the wire when turning, put it up close to the pipe stub up and will make a tight spring.

[@mikemcgyver3254]

Thanks, not having done this I'd have thought some heating would be required to properly form the spring. I now understand that would reduce it's tensile strength so this video was very helpful.

[@TheUncleRuckus]

Sliding a piece of pipe that's close to the diameter of the stock, over the wire and close to the pivot point would help when bending a lot

[@Jer_Schmidt]

I tried that. Didn’t work. The pipe slides back from the mandrel and the wire wraps loosely around the mandrel.

[@georgeeads8689]

Jeremy. That was a great video. There are a lot of people that will be grateful for that information.

[@Benwinch07]

Totally worth its own video!! That is unbelievably simple, but I wouldve never guessed that I could do it myself!

[@Flowshow88]

I love how genuine and honest you are. Great video thank you ❤️

[@kentklapstein9879]

Thanks for posting this. This simple solutions arent always the obvious ones, please do post more "simple" concepts if they come up

[@Sambarbadonat]

Glad that you made a video on this; I need to replace a spring on a guillotine cutter for a print shop and there were a lot of helpful hints here which will save me some skin. Much appreciated.

[@billybobjoe198]

This is my favorite kind of video. I'd rather see what people do to accomplish something, than large builds like the grinder build. Not that the grinder build was bad, I watched it all and liked it. It's just easier to watch a short video like this than an entire series.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+billybobjoe198 Thanks for the feedback! I've noticed you aren't alone with that opinion, so I think in the future I'll try to break my large projects up into smaller sub-projects. Not multi-part series, but rather separate projects that work together to make a larger project.

[@zahidsuleman9063]

Good explaining every thing and every little work

[@jacobinvest]

Nothing is silly. I don't then I don't know. After watching your video and I know it now. Thanks a lot.

[@nikolaoskampitsis7030]

congratulations you have to be perfectional mechanical engineer

[@1DIYGuy]

I had a 3/8 pipe x 3ft that I used to lever the complete spring. I kept the tip of the pipe rubbing the top edge of the last coil allowing the friction to move the pipe (this retains a constant hold back on the spring wire). The smaller diameter pipe allows the the bend to occur only where needed and left a perfect spring with slight tweak. I was surprised when finished the small amount of wire left in the pipe. This was as easy as I have ever made a custom spring. A real plus is I have a free standing vise in the middle of the floor that allowed me to walk 6 plus turns without stopping or the need for a vise grip to hold down the spring wire.

[@philipbarker7672]

You don't know what you don't know. I liked it.

[@blackbirdpie217]

I think there's some sort of annealing followed by heat treatment for springs to have better power.

[@waltercarlson141]

Awesome demonstration Jer.

[@apistosig4173]

Ain't nothin' simple 'bout this. Piano wire can be a cantankerous beast at the best of times and one needs to know its character. A fabulous solution to your problem. Spring making is somewhat akin to practising voodoo! You've done well.

[@lennyf1957]

5:10 definitely worthy of its own video.

[@rok4220]

Glad to get another post. Your subscription is one of the first I look for every day.

[@MoPoppins]

You could just click the bell icon (next to subscribe icon) to receive notifications and have them come to YOU.

[@murraylowe7493]

I have made these before myself but I am certain you have assisted many more than one person with this video. Thanks for all your great video's

[@ageorge7140]

Really nice to see a young man with so much drive, keep up the good work.

[@jonathanhigerd6225]

Not meaning to nit pick, but a suggestion. I would have liked a rough length of the "tail" when starting the spring and maybe a suggested length on the bent end. Awesome job!!

[@Martin-pb7ts]

Definitely worth a video. Enjoyed it.

[@AlphaBobFloridaOverlord]

Very helpful - I've never seen this done. My Patreon.com contribution is being well spent! You're a good man.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+Robert Jacoby Thank you!!

[@OBEAUTIFULDISCOVERIES]

I did not know a person could make their own spring. Thankyou.

[@mountainmaddie5882]

This was exactly what I needed to replace a torsion spring in an antique wood cookstove door!!! Thank you!!!!

[@johnjerizlopezignacio3891]

EVERYTHING MUST BE RECORDER AND UPLOADED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. I will send this to the kids.

[@JonHeckendorf]

Hey, I got something out of watching you build a spring. Thanks for posting.

[@curiosity2314]

It's worth a video! Most people would have no clue, nice job!

[@christophermaurer1271]

Had to watch this again and it's just as good the second time . Hope all is well with you Jeremy . Cheers.

[@chrismaurer2075]

I just had to reply to my name sake.

[@nvmcrider8475]

Very interesting, nice to see a young man doing something with his hands besides playing with his phone.

[@juliolopez3437]

i would've heated the torsion spring to 525° F for 30min after forming. Plus it would've helped with the position, since music wire tends to close and move the position forward.

[@courierdog1941]

Jeremy: this is how they made the original Motorcycle Valve Springs, which sat in the open, I am of the impression this is a preferable spring even for the Generation 2. This style of spring can utilize even low grade steel, it is commonly referred to as a portion style spring. While the Spring you chose for Gen 2 is simple, the class of having made your own spring as part of the project adds an additional involvement for the end builder. you may also consider a true torsion bar spring, in some part of the world good steel especially spring steel is more scarce or costly. Adding a very low tech item to the build if done by proper design may also be an attraction not a detriment. Something to consider Cheers and Thanks for Listening Again Great Video, and for some who have never considered it a useful means to the creation to making your own spring. Not a waste of time at all. Well done.

[@directorgtr]

Very worth it, buddy. Although simple, they're still informative (I have not made my own spring before) to probably most of us. Seeing your mistakes is also very helpful as to not repeat them.

[@Danz2676]

I make springs for a living and this is actually a good video, especially for those who don't have the same resources as I do.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

Thanks; it's nice to get some confirmation that I'm not doing it totally wrong! :)

[@bigbadjohn10]

Just found this. Thanks for posting this, I had forgotten how to do this and would not have made a spring from such thick wire.

[@thatoldbob7956]

You are a clever young man. I just comment on the name you used for your spring, it’s a spring which provide you with torsion by bending stress. A helical spring, like most car springs today work by torsion, also straight torsion bars were used in Doge, Plymouth ‘72, ‘73 and in the VW Beatles too. I like what you do, keep it up.

[@Sludgepump]

I got plenty out of this video. Your vids are right up there with Diresta and Matthias, Jeremy... You get the thumbs up before I even watch it. Cheers!

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+Sludgepump Thank you!

[@patmiddleton3947]

It’s good to see that you also make many small mistakes that you rectify and include in your vids.It’s all part of the learning process.👍

[@archades54]

Make a second plate+rod to put over the shaft you are bending the spring around, put a bolt (and maybe some piece of pipe to act as a roller) as close to the shaft diameter + spring diameter, then you use that to make the roller press the spring around the other pipe. You avoid the major danger that way and it makes it more uniform. Make sure the plate n rod you use for leverage have blunted edges and I'd put a big ass bolt through the center so it doesn't fly up or around n slap you. Not sure if that illustrates it well enough with text, you can see the principle of it in action in most wire forming videos I guess. Maybe a spring from top of the bolt for downforce so the spring wraps are nice n tight.

[@Jer_Schmidt]

+archades54 I've seen how that's done, so I understand what you're saying. But I wanted to keep this as simple as possible, for the sake of those who want to make one custom spring. They aren't going to want to take a whole day off just to build a sophisticated jig to make one spring.

[@r.j.sworkshop7883]

Nicely done. Even if it is a simple process it is good to see how other people do things even if you only pick up small ideas. Thanks for the video.

[@dznm10]

Don't worry about posting as simple like this because some engineers even they are professionals they are only good on papers but in actuality some don't even know how to use hammers correctly to properly hold the handle!..

[@ミホフロ]

Great! I want to make springs of much smaller size, but this is a start (for me). Nice video. No fluff.

[@jtsimmons3133]

Well done. Your videos are always worth watching.

[@nickaylett1360]

Yeah that was definately worth making a video over. Nice work Jeremy.

[@berhanegebriel3155]

What you showed us is very intuitive. Thanks again and keep it up.