How to Make an OP Motivity/Strength Build in Lies of P | Build Guide

Early Moonstones. Parry timings. Boss tips and tricks. The first Lies of P build guide!
In the run, there's a couple of Moonstones I couldn't find footage for:
-Venigni works - 2 x Hidden Moonstones in the drainage channel with the Puppet of the future. (Drain it with the lever behind the pancaking shovel enemy in the tunnel behind Red Fox)
-The bottom of the pit right after Fuoco - Hidden Moonstone
-Rosa Isabelle Street - Run straight ahead from the first grace until you end up next to the shortcut gate. There's a Crescent there.
-Barren Swamp - In the first cylindrical building you have to ascend, there is a wooden beam that sticks out with an item on it. This is the last remaining Half Moonstone.
Channels to check out for Lies of P Speedrunning (some are running LotF now):
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Ainrun
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Mitchriz
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Blanxz
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[@ThingfishyGaming]

Hey peeps! You can really season this build to your taste with P Organ upgrades and levels. I’d say the only crucial upgrades are deflect damage, fable damage, and that extra fable slot (you can do that one a lot earlier in the game than I did if you want to go for massive fables straight away). I’ve still not upgraded my dodge in this game and got used it without those upgrades, but I know they’re a dealbreaker for some. If you know what you’re doing with the bosses, throw more points into strength rather than health and you’ll see the damage get a little silly, but wanted to keep it balanced for those who don’t. Also, I loaded up this character for NG+ shenanigans and realised the wrench was still at + 9 (good to continue my classic Elden Ring tradition into Lies of P, I guess 🤦🏻‍♂️), so you’ll be doing more damage than I was on BRB2, Lax, Simon and Nameless. Hope you like the vid!

[@dank-bongripper9836]

are you going to make lords of the lfallen content too? you'd be much needed

[@olanystedt]

Haha al least no sleep pots to shame in this run 😂

[@edwardt.8704]

What's the likelihood of any updates since the newest patch? I'm already changing plans on how I'd do a NG+ after The OP Motivity Run

[@jbeachboy100]

how i beat police baton boss?

[@g1829]

You can actually get a lot of ergo if you find the stargazer near Fort Faroth. Kill Greyroll with the morning star and the bleed grease. Just remember to pop a gold-pickled fowl foot just as she dies.

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Almost certain I’ve heard that before… Thanks for watching!

[@popesinbengal]

And dont worry. You'll have plenty of time to pop your golden fowl foot😂

[@Griever_Plats2021]

XD

[@sivier1]

And if you're really fast you can rest at the stargazer , get the ergo and Greyroll will respawn

[@ludareinoso381]

Ah yes, i knew this already, thank you for spreading this info for more people, may we all become P lords one day

[@deliriushunter]

Lies of PEAK, rejoice fellow souls fans, the new era of great soulslikes is here!!

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Thanks for watching, Delirius. Hope you enjoy it!

[@deliriushunter]

@@ThingfishyGaming I do, love your build videos!

[@rong7496]

“Now for Romeo. The toughest fight in the game. You’re going to have to get good.” I was actually anxious for a moment. You’ve got a wicked sense of humor. 😂

[@GiroTakamishi]

I'm all for guides that can help newcomers, but I have to say there's plenty of useful stuff that you've missed at the very start of the game. And these can *really* make a difference. - You can start with motivity, but it's not really necessary. Go for the starting weapon you like better, you won't use it much anyways. Scaling in this game is less important than the weapon weight and base damage by itself. - Do *not* level up your greatsword higher than +1. - In Elyseum Boulevard, buy the Electric Coil to the merchant. *All* puppets are vulnerable to electricity. It's better to use the default triangle/Y fable art (from the blade) as it buffs the electric damage and it costs only 2 bars. - Do *not* skip the officer elite in Elyseum Boulevard. He is hard, but he drops his weapon, which is essential for this guide. The electric coil will make him pretty easy. - After defeating the Donkey, assemble a greatsword blade to the officer baton handle. You can also set the coil blade to the baton, but since Watchman uses electricity, I rather not. - The officer baton handle fable art buffs a single attack. So it's very good for you to buff and go for a charged R2/RT. - Especially useful when buffed with the coil electric buff. - You *can* level up the electric coil blade to +2 or 3. You'll have plenty of materials when you get the Wrench, don't worry. - When you unlock the P-Organ, the ability type passive that recharges your legion arm when killing enemies is *pretty useful*. - Explore the whole factory. If you find the survivor NPC, he can be pretty hard, but make use of the table on his arena. You can use the Fulminis Legion arm (that you unlock after the Watchman) to deal massive damage to him. Just make some space between you two using the table and remember to always fully charge the Fulminis. Backstab spam him after that. - For Fuoco and the whole factory, just hold onto the electric coil (you can use it on it's default handle or the officer handle, it doesn't really matter). - When you finally get the wrench, keep going until you find the Atoned NPC. - There's no need to fight her if you killed The Survivor NPC. Just use the Stalker's Promise Gesture and get into the railway. - Finally, after reaching the Railway Stargazer, set the wrench blade on the baton handle. - For your P-Organs, remember to get the extra Fable Bar. So you can combo the officer handle fable art and still use the wrench full 3 bars charge. - When you finally find Alidoro in chapter IV (4), get the Extreme Modification amulet. This increase you damage based on how many fully charged fable arts you have. At the time, you'll be having 4 (with 5 you get a 20% damage increase). That's it, have fun.

[@GiroTakamishi]

By the way, just a heads up. You won't be interrupted while charging the Wrench Fable art by *most* things. What do I mean most? Fury Attacks (red attacks) will interrupt you, but not only those but also every single attack from the Jester elite in chapter VII. I could write a whole guide for the game here, but I think that's more than enough.

[@regalvas]

Tried coil + baton vs the boss. I would say it is without exageration the worse possible combo you ca use for that fight. Less scaling, less damage than any other weapon, less reach, and antisynergy for the fable arts. Honestly it made me think that a "worse weapon per boss" challange run would be much harder than in other souls like

[@GiroTakamishi]

@@regalvas Baton + coil will only work if you're a motivity build. It's better to stay with the default handler otherwise.

[@regalvas]

@@GiroTakamishi I know but I wanted to see how hard it would be with it since it was my third run.

[@aknatenra]

Really missed the guides! The music is now iconic! More more more!!!

[@ThingfishyGaming]

More on the way! Hope you enjoy it.

[@bboy458]

I've been watching you awhile man, and I gotta say. Your audio/video sync is spectacular. You've got some real skill for dramatic editing.

[@grahammeeson3692]

Finished my first play through today with this top set up. S tier build, and content. ❤

[@Scowleasy]

Further proof that strength reigns supreme 💪

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Bonk is best. Thanks for watching!

[@devaryamadhukar8803]

In my opinion technique has the best weapon in the game, talking bout da katana

[@august3777]

So glad your back to making videos. I haven't played this game in a couple of weeks since I had so much trouble with the game, but watching this video, I'm feeling like playing again. You make a whole lot of things that I find hard/annoying about this game seem easy and fun. Thanks for uploading content again. I look forward to more of these videos and your Lords of The Fallen vids as well.

[@ghostofneworleans4511]

Souls type games are all about distance management. Always walk towards enemy until they are about to swing them back up. Let them finish combo.. then go in for a couple hits. Back up and repeat.

[@mariuszel759]

Absolutely love your love and narrative! Im on a ng+ rn and having a blast. Ds3 is next on my list and watched twice your video about it. Keep it up brother

[@cornthdl]

The snicker after P-Organ. Love it.

[@cornthdl]

Great stuff! Can’t wait for the 2 Dragons build!

[@ghostwalkerld]

I platinum'd Lies of P with the help of your videos, Thingfishy! Can't wait for Shadows of the Erdtree in June! I'm hoping we all have a blast with it!

[@wickedtruth6849]

so wanted to let you know i picked up the game because of this video. even though im still workin through some other games. so good job and looking forward to trying this build out.

[@ViktorJenei]

OMG, the way you killed Romeo. It was pure rock and roll!

[@olanystedt]

Definitely worth the wait 😉 Awesome video in every aspects as always! Hearing you, I’m not going to rush over to LOTF just yet, not until its on sale and I have nothing else to play at least 😂, Im having so much fun in LoP and DS3 at the moment anyway… and thanks to this video i have another LoP run to do ;) Thank you!

[@danielburnett7208]

Cant wait for the next build guide already!

[@jasperill2275]

Love the guide! Please do more Lies of P. Try an advance build because I haven't seen any advance builds yet.

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Thanks, Jasper. Yeah, definitely planning an Arcane guide. My first playthrough was an arcane build. Thanks for watching!

[@zacharygarrett8145]

I LOVED THIS BUILD krat baton handle and wrench head is my favorite play through so far im doing a twin dragon sword run now but DEMOLISHING everything with the wrench was so much fun

[@SHADOWWESKER1]

Loved your Elden ring builds, hoping you’ll do plenty of lies of p builds

[@tokimimen]

Awesome vid, hope to see more Lies of P in future

[@InMaTeofDeath]

Just finished the game today and that was my weapon though I used the electric arm since it still scales with Str and that status effect makes it easier to stagger which helps the build even more.

[@SamB-yj8is]

Been waiting for this, my GOTY so far.

[@janograhf]

I finished the game last night with this build. The handle fable followed by a full charged blade fable just wreck boss hp. Thanks for this guide

[@christaylor3173]

Missed your guides TF!

[@behzadehtesham1710]

You explained the walkthrough game very well I really enjoyed

[@PatientPatent]

A bit late to the comments, but your guide helped me beat Laxasia in 2 tries! Thank you very much

[@popesinbengal]

Quickly becoming maybe the very best soulstuber. Did you ever play Steel Rising? Looks really cool

[@Scowleasy]

An important thing to know for people using slower strength weapons: shot puts can break a white healthbar and open the enemy up for a stagger. Getting fatal attacks at-will is endlessly useful, and it being a ranged item makes it even better

[@Tidz13]

Great video as always! I have fable arted a lot of times with dialogue because of my choice of bindings too! A for xbox felt more natural, and picking up felt better with Y after elden ring

[@itaohs5551]

"Flashy builds" I've been experimenting with the Etiquette lately and I'm honestly surprised more people don't run with it for some fun. It's definitely not crack cocaine damage, but the parasol guard stances are amusing as hell to pull off. Anyway, didn't really need the guide but it was fun to see how destructive the wrench is, good build, good guide, and good vid.

[@JeathWoW]

Love your content, posting for the first time because the LOTF boss shade was both funny and on point

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Thanks, Jeath! Glad you're enjoying the channel. No idea what you're talking about there 😉

[@user-eg7bi2ux4o]

I always go pure strength on souls(likes), at least on my first playthrough. This time though I went dex for the first time ever because the trident won me over, it's so good. Also the katana but it aint close to my playstyle (obviously). Then I realised there are handles to make heavy weapons that scale A with dex such as the heavy curved sword and the booster glaive. Pop the fire/lava/whatever cutter blade or the coil stick head and voila heavy elemental weapons that scale with dex. Or just the saw blade xD. Definitely trying this build on my ng+ though whenever I have the time to replay this awesome game. Thanks a lot for this guide!

[@devaryamadhukar8803]

Bro calm down with the intro, it’s straight heat. DYAMN, bro came out with a trailer.

[@jatingandhi7488]

dude this weapon combo is insane, I first tried FALLEN ARCHBISHOP without summon

[@edwardt.8704]

What a guide! This has helped me shave off time from Many Bosses. One thing, Mr. Fishy: Where can I find your endgame P-Organ Layout? I want to follow your lead, but some clips sweep over the full map. Thank You!

[@Lusor_Elges]

Lovely video man, i definitely enjoy other vids other than elden ring.. a dex build in ds3 would be amazing... I recently finished Slave knight Gael with the farron great sword and it was so cinematic and lovely

[@kingIccus]

thanks man big fan of elden ring videos i was waiting for this just see gameplay of this game

[@Danzroo]

You are a Parry God Comfirmed 😮🥶 good luck puppets

[@DennisEngelhard]

Just today I finished a Motivity playthrough with Pipe Wrench on Boom-Axe- Handle and this was ridiculously powerful - I killed Walker of Illusions before he summoned the duplicate. Just my luck, I find the easiest way to play on my 5th run ;) Well, almost easiest. Slow weapons have drawbacks - the second Black Rabbit fight has never been such a pain before...

[@springsm5545]

I like the move set of that handle, and like you say, great Motivity scaling right out of the box. Another good one more for Technique is the Booster Glaive, gives you a little wind-up distance. That took me through my first playthrough.

[@Nilz4FR]

same here - the 3 black rabbit guys are now attacking all at once - it took me over 50 tries and a wizard to get it ng+5 motivity built

[@idkmanjustwannachill]

Dude never in my life I thought about P organ in weird way and that one laugh change the meaning for me forever 😭

[@flipcyd3387]

Cool guide as per! If you end up doing a boss weapon besides the katana, might i suggest the Trident of the Covenant. Such an awesome weapon for sure, and you can play around with crit strike stuff.

[@ClydeNut]

I second this, I slept on it until the end of NG+ but it could be the best weapon in the game imo

[@Ghostf4cekilll4]

Eh. I mean Crits sound nice but that moveset is kinda wonky

[@HybridAesthete]

Hwando/ Korean’s variant of the Katana

[@dougesolomon9068]

I recommend the fire axe handle because of the extra reach. Otherwise well done! I love your voice.

[@crapsharkify]

Here we go! I picked it up a few days ago and I've just been in the cable car and I'm on route to the Cathedral. Dying to watch this but don't want any spoilers. I'm running a straight up quality build, because souls , but I can't help feeling I should have stuck to either strength or dex. Oh well. Having a blast with it anyway. Let's see how long I go before I cave and watch this!

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Enjoy! It’s an incredible game and you’ll have fun with any build.

[@crapsharkify]

I caved, but I've only watched up to the point where I'm at in the game. Doesn't look like I've missed anything so far but this video is going to take an age to watch!

[@9kllas]

lovely gameplay n music bruv, respeccc

[@sharkzf6]

Well done sir! 😎

[@NPC_maga]

Imagine making a motivity build without using the Holy Sword, aka, Guts Greatsword pre crouch-poke nerf, except you don't even need to crouch to do the poke, and the charged attack comes out twice as fast.

[@jasperill2275]

A SUPER overpowered build which got me through my first playthrough which you should totally make a video on is the sawblade plus the bramble curved sword combination with the arm of god amulet and a focus on the fable art. I got this build from fextralifes sawblade dancer video and it is totally OP 😁

[@derekfaircloth4661]

For anyone attempting to follow along as I am the chandelier jump has been patched or something I have been at this for over two and a half hours you can not make that jump anymore.

[@jamesshaver2376]

I effing love this game!!!!!!!!

[@ThingfishyGaming]

☝️ This. Hope you enjoy the vid!

[@exalphagosthedestroyerofwo4873]

I know right? I'm determined to get good at this game! 😅

[@Alex-ls8if]

Yo bro great video.. I used to use this weapon combo at +7 doin 255+142 phys attack, I then switched to bone cutting saw blade wit the exploding pick handle, I have it at +9 doin 288+138 phys attack, I’m in chapter 9 should I go back to the wrench or is my current build good enough?

[@exalphagosthedestroyerofwo4873]

Why not try both? 😊

[@rong7496]

The part with the jester with the barrels. Is that a reference to “The Cask of Amantillado?”

[@tenken103]

My favorite weapon combo was the city long spear handle and the tyrant murder's dagger blade.

[@enzo_plays]

And so it begins!

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Thanks for watching!

[@acky12489]

I just Hulk Smash everything and it's carried me to the end of NG+ so far, even Laxasia didn't take more than about a dozen attempts.

[@NAHNII_]

‘Take this coin to Pulcinella in the round table hold’ had me laughing.

[@joshhayes3433]

Great video! I gave up on it after a getting to the cathedral area, it just wasn't holding my attention. Will you be making any Lords of the Fallen content?

[@jonathanshowers6956]

The cathedral was a bit annoying and had a hard boss. I would recommend to keep going 🙂

[@leveluppupgaming7207]

Had to rewind a couple times to realize he's choking back a laugh after saying P organ 😂😂😂

[@MillerTheOriginal]

That police batton handle has some good stats but paired with the wrench blade, it just didn't havnt any range for me. Is there any other handle you can recommend as the wrench blade is op with is fable

[@miked6367]

Nicely done, great vid.

[@mulasien]

So if some of us were complete noobs (me) who didn't know what we were doing, and sold the baton thinking it wasn't good at the time, what would be a pick for second best handle? I've been using the fire axe handle with the wrench and it's been decent, though kicking myself for selling critical items I didn't know I needed early on.

[@impexxable]

Just started playing and I'm up to the king of puppets... saw you did a shortcut by jumping off but did they fix that? I tried for 20+ minutes and I couldn't get it to work. Also, with the P-Organs, is there a location you put all the choices you made?

[@kayachan5198]

elden ring was my first souls gane, i gave up on it, too hard for me, i tried some of your guides.. got into lies of p and tried a dex build and eventually got the double sword, then i saw this video and rerolled.. not using any summons or throwables and following along ive just beaten romeo after the 50th try, feels much better to play like this, i genuinely never thought i would be able to do any of the bosses without a summon, im a noob so maybe im deluded when i say this build isnt broken its just how the game is meant to be played? thank you

[@janreichenbach265]

The very last fight against the nameless puppet can become nasty in phase 2 because blocking her causes a lot of damage and this superboss is superfast . Once you have the "fat blade" Live Puppet's axe blade, use it with the handle of the pistol rock drill . The fable art of this handle is a drill that last as long as you've have full fable bars. Upgrade them from 3 in the beginning to 5 bars (P-organ level 4). Then equip your fully upgraded (+10) superweapon with the elemental damage grindstone that makes sense, aka electricity for the nameless puppet or fire for Victor. If you hit for a full 5 bars with the fable art of the pistol rock drill handle, your damage is incredible. Amulet here that makes sense ? Victor's ergo give you "Arm of God" amulet, which is perfect for the superfast hits of the rock drill fable art. Once you've beaten Laxasia, do NOT use her ergo for the weapon. Use it for the amulet (Impregnable fortress), equipped it means no damage when you block hits from an enemy -> important for phase 2 of the the nameless puppet fight.

[@robrobbins]

What gaming console are you using? Your graphics look a lot better than what I see on my gaming PC.

[@eightyoneskillz4033]

Elevator in a wooden area ?! Elden Ring and the elevator at farons keep ... ?! Used the Handle from the Tonitrus lookin weapon and the glaive blade .... the weapon Art from this elektricy handle is soo insane ...

[@Nilz4FR]

35:05 I had such a hard time with the 3 brotherhood - as they all keep attacking me at once - after 50 tries I had to take the wizard

[@slicksilver9441]

@5:50 your character has the guard up and never drops yet your controller shows you just tapping the block button. How is this possible?

[@eightyoneskillz4033]

P.s.: i totally feel you on this damn AOE spittin crow ;) ... and if you cant play with the wrench like me because its too slow ... in this game i need weapons with more speed but what would you use if you cant use the wrench for this build ?!

[@derekfaircloth4661]

Uhh so i have been following this guide and you said the next boss is the atoned but she didn't attack me... what did I do wrong? Do I just attack her?

[@hsj_728]

could you make another ds3 video? I really liked your first one :)

[@bobabrod7144]

Anyone have timestamps for the P organs and the levels? Need to see the specifics since I just re-speced. Thank you!

[@Dale_Nightking]

Good god I didn’t realize how absurd strength is in this game. I played with dex/technique and sat on the Mjolnir head and technique infused booster glaive for the longest time cause it was just so good to balance distance. I’m on my 3rd playthrough but you make me want to give this a try, though sadly I’d have to reset and start anew 😭

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Yeah, strength is really good for brute forcing the bosses. There's some awesome dex builds though. Thanks for watching!

[@Ghostf4cekilll4]

I always get interrupted with the booster glaive when it actually matters tho. It’s cool but situational as fuck in like a boss fight or human fight

[@Dale_Nightking]

@@Ghostf4cekilll4 Most definitely. Positioning when using its charged/heavy attack is tricky. I think I’m in the the sweet spot but I’m a hair short. Still very useful especially when the specter has agro

[@Ghostf4cekilll4]

@@Dale_Nightking well yes. But what isn’t effective when spectre has aggro? Is my point? The main selling point is meh

[@Dale_Nightking]

@@Ghostf4cekilll4 it’s my playstyle, I was giving an opinion, and was trying to help by giving a tip. Take it or leave

[@droppedcroisant]

i usually hate soulslike but this one might be in my top 3 favorite games ever, its so frustrating and hard but for some reason i refuse to give up lol can't wait to play as Dorothy from the wizard of Oz omg

[@Ghostf4cekilll4]

Everyone seems to gravitate to the same weapons.

[@dave6856]

Damn corrupted parade master is kicking my ass. Hard to get his health down without throwables or a summon to distract him. Can’t stagger him and can’t change weapon for something with more range as the stargazers don’t work. Currently stuck on this boss. I’ve watched other tutorials how to beat him but not having any luck. Guess I gotta get good…

[@bobabrod7144]

How did you get your vigor to be base level six?

[@user-wo7ro8vi8w]

U R unbelievable!!!

[@SakuraTre]

Have you tried the axe handle

[@besnikmaloku]

how is he perfect parrying by just holding block ?

[@lordofgonzo]

There's a special grindstone that allows for it...and he's Really good.

[@besnikmaloku]

@@lordofgonzo thank you

[@runnerup15]

Green swamp monster and walker of illusions are hell with this build but the rest are not too bad. Gank fight just gotta use summon; 2 v 4 is not too bad

[@BradlyClarke]

Best wishes

[@briantrip5022]

Is that jump to the short cut patched now I cant hit it

[@bluntdavinci2139]

That crow comment tells me that you must have played lords of the fallen XD

[@sohildorle1930]

That intro might as well be an intro...dang

[@numetalklass]

I'm in NG+ Loving the game

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Still yet to try NG+, but a Two Dragons build is calling to me!

[@numetalklass]

@@ThingfishyGaming Lol is just what I went, the charge heavy attack parry is OP, way better than the normal parry, leveling an Advance weapon for NG++

[@beatsplaywr]

Thanks for the spoiler warning dude :)❤

[@toxicwaste225]

Nice more lies of p

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Hope you enjoy it, Toxic! Thanks for watching.

[@toxicwaste225]

@@ThingfishyGaming I do I love this game and I love your content I recently started a motivity build

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Have fun! So many cool strength weapons

[@toxicwaste225]

@@ThingfishyGaming yea all of my favourite weapons in games are strength weapons

[@captaincrabs7208]

What amulets did you use?

[@onkelkonkel5]

Won’t you be kind of handicapped with so little vigor? Or is that more of a QoL thing?

[@Deathgaming_7]

So this video is of a new play-through?

[@fringedglobe4015]

What are the p organs?

[@jengaaaaa]

I miss 99% of my perfect guards so still stuck at the second boss. Even the training dummy smashes through my perfect guards 70% of the time.

[@markcampbell8590]

Intro had no business being as hard as it was.

[@bobabrod7144]

Could rlly use some details on the P organs. Thank you!

[@andypina4478]

More than anor londo this is zen's fortress

[@ThingfishyGaming]

It was a difficult choice between the two for that one. Thanks for watching!

[@andypina4478]

@@ThingfishyGaming thank you for the content!

[@Gmantis294]

Gheppeto sounds like the actor who played in kung fu and kill bill

[@four2181]

When do we gonna see a video about 2 dragon sword at this god parry channel brother

[@ThingfishyGaming]

Soon! Cannot wait for that one! Hope you enjoy the vid, Four!

[@four2181]

@@ThingfishyGaming love u and the vid brother

[@MasterJiraiyaGamin]

Honestly I dodge more then perfect guard and the game isn't relied on it hate how so many people complain about it