How To Make Backside 180's (Not Scary) : Wakeboard Instruction

What's my favorite trick? Hard to really pin that one down but if I had to...I'd go with "Any Backside 180". This trick scares most people to the point that they don't even try it so I've put together some steps that take you through a process of little progressions starting with learning how to Powerslide all the way up to doing a Wake to Wake Backside 180. So there's really a few different how to's within this video that are all fun to learn. So, take your time and learn each step on and don't move onto the next until you feel you've mastered that trick. Enjoy Your Ride!
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[@brianstanley9996]

Thanks Shaun for continuing to create these videos for the lower level riders. I love watching you do the amazing pro's only type tricks but us most of us don't have those kind of skills. You keep wakeboarding interesting and make new tricks seem doable. At 48 its easy to just wakesurf all day. However, videos like this keep me interested in wakeboarding. Thanks man!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Love to hear that Brian! This is one of the biggest reasons I create the videos in the first place.

[@lewkmiller]

One of the best tricks. Also slammed the hardest in my life on this trick.

[@ltownandfriends4531]

please dont say it like that 😐 im trying to build up confidence

[@Crdesigns111]

Just landed these at 35 years old, been wakeboarding and following Shaun Murray since I was 13!!! Your passion and dedication to the sport is unmatched!!!

[@joshcherry4862]

Shaun, thanks so much for all the videos. I’m 35 and my 17 year old son and I have really gotten back into wakeboarding this summer and your videos have been game changing. I watched this video today. Went on the water and took it slow and went through ALLL the steps. Wow. It helped so much. I just had the best evening out on the water and landed this trick with my son watching. The eyes technique was GOLDEN! Thanks Shaun

[@bobwhitford5939]

Shaun very clear. I'm 70. Just bought a board and will try for first time soon.

[@Shaun.Murray]

Love to hear this Bob! And thanks for watching!

[@jamesroberts9189]

Hey Shaun. Thanks again for having me out to your house in August for the Adventure IO event. What you taught me for the frontside 360 that day has helped me tremendously. I have landed several wake to wake and I am in the process of dialing them in. Mike has landed his first backroll and my son Quade has been killing it with wake to wake jumps and 65ft rope length! Anyway this video is exactly what I needed and wanted to do next. We just didn't have time when I was there a couple of months ago. Enjoy YOUR ride. Reid

[@houndawg101]

I’m 56 years old and have been slalom skiing the past two years since I retired. I’ve been considering wakeboarding. I’ve been watching your videos since and feel this is very reasonable to start into wakeboarding. Thanks for posting. Watching your videos have trained my mind into taking that next step. Now to find the right board for me. 👍🏼😊

[@Shaun.Murray]

Right on Mathias. What's your height and weight stats if I may ask? Most adults can blindly purchase my 144 and have a good time either way. If you're taller than 6' 2", go up to the 150.

[@houndawg101]

Shaun Murray 6-2 225

[@houndawg101]

Work out regularly 5 days a week.

[@Shaun.Murray]

@@houndawg101 You could go 150 and be super happy w it.

[@houndawg101]

Shaun Murray Thank you for the help. 😊

[@olaaxis558]

I think this was your best video yet. Thanks for the tips!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Thanks! I put some time into making sure I was covering as much as I could without overdoing it.

[@ryannelson9523]

Keep them coming great stuff its nice to have aomeone explain it so you dont just have to try and figure it out on your own

[@jaydryden6206]

I'm 41 & took three sets today and this video is literally all I did. Then the last pop of the day was able to stick the backside 180 wake to wake, rope blind behind the back and everything! Thanks for this awesome video and for keeping it real for the old dudes 😜

[@kevinfrederick6277]

Who remembers incessantly watching Detention on VHS? We love you Shaun Murray!

[@jayjackson5705]

Oh man, that brings me back! Gotta love Wally with his gold helmet and type II preserver. He couldn't do anything right.

[@Shaun.Murray]

You're funny/awesome Kev! Just found a box of VHS tape 2 recently

[@Shaun.Murray]

@KINGDOM MT That was a good one as well

[@Shaun.Murray]

@@jayjackson5705 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX3Wh3eqbaqsm8k

[@michaelmeiner4079]

Watching this at the fire station, hear the federal kick in at 10:40 and starting trying to figure out if I missed a run. Thanks for clearing it up for me lol! Glad I found this channel, can't wait to start the season!

[@DuzBee]

Thank you Shaun, fantastic narration with quality steps and slow mode close up footage putting your words into an image for us to visualise. I’m a really novice boarder, and need to learn how to jump a wake / wake to wake normally first, before a wake to wake back side 180 haha. I’m a noob. Peace from Australia.

[@parkerwilliams6189]

Great video! Landed my first backside today because of this video. Felt amazing. ThNks bro!

[@classof09x]

Palm to palm was the info I needed for my riding thanks a lot for that tip!

[@Shaun.Murray]

No worries and thanks for watching Gary!

[@alexpiven9564]

Man, I am really greatfull for how detailed you are! Indeed, I found it scary to try Backside 180, but after this video I am going to try it! This step by step way is working for sure)

[@LakeSurferZS232]

Thanks Shaun! Really enjoy watching your videos! Just got our first boat, wife and I fell in love with wakesurfing on day 1, your videos helped convince us this was worth every penny!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Great to hear Chad! Hope you continue to good times w your wife out on the water.

[@wernerwakevibes3838]

Thanks Shaun! This tutorial is very helpful, also for us cable riders. The spot point closer to the board is a superb tip.

[@Shaun.Murray]

Thanks Vibes!

[@justinensz8409]

Can't wait to try this. Love your videos

[@endlesscruz]

Great video. One thing that has really helped me is that I was under rotating. If you land with the board at an angle pointing closer to the boat it really makes passing the handle easier. Also flattening the board a bit on take off reduces a bit of that line tension. I started landing almost all frontside 3s when I did that small change although for the fronside 3, I do need to slack more. For the backside 180, I've been getting about 1 of every 3 I try, but I realized I wasn't spotting my landing. This video made me realize this. Very helpful and I'll be giving it a try. Thanks

[@jenganinja]

These vids are ace. I'm gonna try this next time out. Please keep me coming.

[@hondarevable]

Love your videos, brand new wakeboarder, 34 years old and I started last year. Your videos break it down so it makes sense. Thanks man!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Great to hear good feedback Sled!

[@robertyoung3664]

Great instruction as always Shawn.

[@samdunkerton3787]

Loving these videos man Discovered wakeboarding July last year and instantly hooked, having snowboarded for 30 years I picked it up pretty quickly and enjoying being able to progress at a decent rate. Started cable riding initially and now just started boat riding too. These videos are absolutely brilliant and really helping me know what to do to keep pace of progression at a good rate. Just getting my heel side wake to wake jumps about right, need to get toe side in next and then it’s 180 time.

[@Shaun.Murray]

Right on Sam! I have edits on toeside and 180s.

[@samuelkwong1529]

Thanks Shaun.

[@liahbrito2746]

I think the instructions are very clear!. He realy helps me and I did it!!!!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Great to hear Liah!

[@alexisclement381]

Great video and very good tips. Thank you, it helped me a lot!

[@bobwhitford5939]

Shaun. Always a great job! Very clear.

[@Shaun.Murray]

Thanks Bob!

[@user-om4qg8et9x]

WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Shaun.Murray]

👊🏼

[@mattcarlson12]

Love how detailed this is! Would love the same for a Whirlybird!

[@Shaun.Murray]

I have it in the Detention vid and will hopefully have time to upload here soon.

[@brentfoxhoven]

Thanks for making so much great learning content! I progressed so much when I found your app! If only I was younger.

[@Shaun.Murray]

What are you talking about "if I was younger."?! C'mon! Have fun doing the foundational stuff and it's not only a good time but allows safer progression. Get after it Brent!

[@Ask_the_neighbor]

Going to head out to San Diego Bay tomorrow morning to land my back side 180° due to Shaun's rad tutorial. Thanks shawn . Come to San diego . Get RAD!!!

[@blanketrader5731]

you inspire me to be better bro! your riding is the sickest.

[@chrispappas6952]

Shaun, Like Mathias, I am 55 and am an old school slalom skier. I have been watching your videos and wow my game has really come up! I have the front side pretty well, and this backside 180 video is exactly what I need! Thankyou! Mathias I have to say, go slow. I know my kids are totally roasting me and my old man practice

[@Shaun.Murray]

Don't let them kids give you a hard time! Tell them how much fun it can be and they'll learn to progress w out so many hard falls.

[@GhostOO9]

Applied this progression to front side 180s, really helped me out!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Right on

[@DaveTW65]

In your last video you commented to me about board control,I took it to heart and took several steps back to it,after watching the kind of geometry you put into your board I knew I was off with mine,it paid off big,I ended my session remastering the slide and tried to achieve the slide you do where you are almost touching your chest or back on the water,when I get about 75% of the way down my board starts to wobble,I think it’s ankle fatigue on my part,I will start doing exercises to combat this,thanks for the input! Your videos are working!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Right on Dave! And so you know, the reflection shot you're referring to, it's not a slide, like a lot of people think. It's just a really hard cut. So don't let your board slide out.

[@davidbigair5206]

Thanks for your vidéos ! I can powerslide backside 180 but never tried again in the air after few crashes. I was missing the in between steps . Can't wait for next season to try 😉 Peace ! 🤙

[@afrosoulstylist]

Superb! I'm going to be on this one like custard over sticky toffee pudding. Unfortunately "IT'S COLD!!!" here in the UK so added to my performance profile and goal sheet for spring 2020. Thanks dude, you are always on point... Peace, love and community.

[@Shaun.Murray]

Bummer on the coldness but get after asap in the spring Afro!

[@sheersy2987]

Fantastic tuition video mate 👍 some great tips there, I found backside easier then frontside, and I’m working on it all the time. Keep up the great work mate😜🤙✌️

[@Shaun.Murray]

Consider yourself blessed to like be able to do BS better than FS. Thanks for watching Nate

[@311rocks247]

My first technical trick landed. I still love the feeling of this trick!

[@funsizedude01]

Love this video! Will help with my ollie backside 180! You maybe already have this... but do you have a video on wake jumps and wake to wakes? I have cased a wake to wake now kinda in a rutt with single wakejumps never mind wake to wakes now 🤔

[@marccote605]

I am surprised at how slow you ride to practice some of these tricks. Thanks for including the speeds and great video! What speed do you ride at when you are out doing your big tricks?

[@mattirobinson]

Great video Shaun. In your 360 tutorial, you start by pulling towards the boat to get some slack in the line. Is that not needed for these? Is it a front side vs back side difference? Just got your board btw, and I loving it!

[@jamesjamison4017]

Remembering passing rope behind my back when riding the hydroslide as kid, a lot more challenging on wake board. all your tips are spot on for me thanks. jonesing for water time here in Indiana my summer here every weekend 3 months straight on the water, a little snow boarding in winter, keeping in shape. hope to visit soon, 54 years old, my favorite trick getting big air.

[@Shaun.Murray]

Right on James. The kneeboard 3 was a big deal when you're a kid...or anyone learning to kneeboard! Enjoy your ride no matter what you're on!

[@rizqisaputra1736]

Good video! I'am form Indonesian 👍

[@jeffmarkel5351]

Great video I tried it this weekend but I kept getting the Rope pulled out of my hands when I would land blind. Most likely I guess I wasn't pointing towards the boat enough and I was drifting out pulling the rope tighter? Anyhow great video. Ill keep trying

[@jayboswell2396]

Great video! I’ve been able to tantrum but was never able to 180 or 360 🤣, I’ve always tried todo this but never had good coaching... I believe I can do this now hopefully! I guess I’ll comment back and let you know if you ever get the chance to read this. Thanks again!!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Let me know how it goes. And if you're having trouble w your spins, check this video out that gets you going on 180s. There's also another one on 3's if you're interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn3MgZ2Cgd6NkM0

[@kevinharris6453]

Any chance you might do a video on riding cuffed and blind landings? These are areas I’d like to improve in this year but I’m having a hard time breaking it down into smaller pieces to feel comfortable with and work towards. Thanks for these instructional videos; they are insanely helpful!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Thanks for the question Kevin and encouraging input. I'll add it to the list I have for potential videos in the future. Not able to promise it but will def keep it in mind ✌️

[@DuzBee]

Hi Shaun, for us noobs, a instructional series focusing on basic fundamentals would be great. Maybe call it ‘Brilliant at Basics’ haha. Riding standard or goofy, power slides, hitting a wake, hip position, dock / deep water starts and switching ect, cheers 👍🏻

[@ivoperts86]

Shaun, thank you so much for this! Can you do one for toeside backside 180? I landed it once, but it's kinda a weird one. Your body does 180, but your head does 360.

[@zakstone9821]

One of my favorite tricks ever. Mmmmmm. 😍😍😍 can’t wait for the knee to be 100%

[@Shaun.Murray]

That trick and your big ol' wakeskate flyers at Odub!

[@JoffreyFormont]

I just subscribe to your channel... very nice tutorial Shaun! 👊👊👊 Thanks

[@Shaun.Murray]

Thanks Joff!

[@JoffreyFormont]

Shaun Murray I did try many of your advices on the wake park where I practice. Did work great! Need to practice more... 😅

[@CamTheNomad]

Looking forward to the handle pass video! I’ve been riding 3s away without the handle in my hand 😂 so more like sinking away?

[@Shaun.Murray]

Have you checked out this vid on 3's? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXyTdpWwgKd2isk

[@CalvinCai_Frisbee]

great instructions! I'm going to the owc orlando park next thursday, are you gona be there???

[@Shaun.Murray]

Thanks Cal. Won't be there Thurs. Was just there yesterday coach most of the day.

[@OutdoorKitchenCampAndCook]

Can this be applied to cable riding?

[@oscarivanroa6568]

Great video Shaun!, thank you from a Mexican Wakeboarder. Rope lenght? anybody knows?

[@Shaun.Murray]

Gracias amigo! When doing the one wake stuff in this video, doesn't matter too much but approximately 60'. When going for your first wake to wake, you can come into 50' or even shorter if you're on a smaller ski boat.

[@FAS-YT]

Hey shaun, Do u know anyone by the name of Dustin Rash?

[@humbertbrito]

How can it look so simple and I feel so impossible when trying? Soooooo angry!!!!

[@Shaun.Murray]

Take the time to go through the step Humbert. Slow the boat speed down as well while learning

[@anthony_clontz4064]

Im trying to learn to ride switch, any tips?

[@clintonbruning]

What about toeside backside 180s? Tips the same or would you recommend a different process?

[@Shaun.Murray]

Have you seen this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX6QmXhpZ8ySoLc

[@uytdeman]

What are some optimal rope lengths to ride with? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

[@mclovin9234]

Longer the rope, wider the wake. Cons, it’s harder and scarier to clear. Pros, u have more time do do tricks, and it looks cooler

[@10gulf]

LOL at 10:58 "Hopefully that wasn't. somebody falling on a backside 180" I wish it wasn't 6 months to try applying where to look

[@burntgrass8066]

So is this easier than a frontside 3?

[@thewinchguy7114]

Can you do one on an unwrap back 360? I ride cable and land it quite often off the xl but im not consistent with it and feel like im doing something wrong.

[@Shaun.Murray]

not sure which spin you're referring to. Have you checked out this vid? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXyTdpWwgKd2isk

[@jplockport1]

im right foot forward and cant do nothing with left in front broke arm snow boarding trying a 360 lol year later same arm on a half pipe skateboarding i rotate to my left i guess everything i do on a board is goofy but can do basic tricks on a board and in learning the wakeboarding at least the water is softer lol

[@thecarpetchemist9663]

I cant ride in the blind position! I can cross the wakes in the cuffed position no worries but as soon as I take the front hand off I will tic tock. I have tried to max edging, hinging, rear leg weight and reaching around fully. I have tried leaning at slightly different angles. knuckles are tight to my back. Ive looked to the shore and to my tail. Seems impossible. I think it might be due to my thick physique and shorter unflexible arms. Will larger fins help me? I use 0.8" fins on a 150 murray pro. 230 pounds.

[@Shaun.Murray]

I understand the feeling bc if I'm wrapped riding blind in a switch position, it's not tough for me to stay there, but if I go regular stance but wrapped blind, it's hard to stay locked. The key is getting the connection to flow from your rear shoulder, through your body, to your front hip. If that makes sense. It's not the easiest and can take some time but let me know how it goes. Larger fins can def help as well.

[@jeffatkins8103]

My 20y year nemesis! Still trying though.

[@Shaun.Murray]

Have you tried these steps Jeff? Let me know how it's going

[@jeffatkins8103]

@@Shaun.Murray yes but not frequently enough! You know how it is. You get out and wanna go big and not waste boat time! 😂

[@Shaun.Murray]

@@jeffatkins8103 Take the time. Totally should.

[@Leoms081077]

Nicest video ever! Love that manouvre, but i'm falling on my back everytime i'm landing blind...

[@Shaun.Murray]

Where are you looking during the trick and when landing?

[@Leoms081077]

Shaun Murray, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I think down, but not behind... i’ll try and look behind whne i land, picking up a spot while in the air and maintaining my eyes focused on that specific spot all the way through the landing, just like you taught.

[@Shaun.Murray]

@@Leoms081077 look at the spot where you're going to Ollie, don't wait until you're in the air to pick that spot. Things will feel like they are happening too fast. More than anything, remember you're only doing a 180. Sure, it's a super cool 180 that can feel like more is happening so you're body and mind kinda freak out, but slow everything down and remember you're only doing a 180. Just a new place to look when doing it.

[@pauljury6750]

Hey Shaun ... love your vids.. We have a G23, come to New Zealand and coach us. Ill pay for your ticket and all expenses

[@Shaun.Murray]

Have never been. Not sure if/when I'd have time but feel free to contact me via my website www.shaunmurray.com

[@ltownandfriends4531]

@10:57 thats a bit dramatic Shaun 😅 .. guess its good that im watching this video then

[@Shaun.Murray]

😂 had to go back and watch. 😆

[@JohnHaile]

*sirens* Hope that wasn’t someone falling on a backside 180 😂😂😂

[@bobbygordon4656]

How old is too old to “start” wakeboarding?

[@Shaun.Murray]

Good question. I've taught a couple that was in their 70's and still cruising not only wakeboarding but wakeskating

[@ZENxTENinc]

Still Skerd.. bwaaahahaha.

[@Shaun.Murray]

Let's get you to "ain't skeered"