How to Make Perfume like Lost Cherry

[@WhatsThatSmell]

Can’t believe I’m only just finding your channel. Very happy to sub and keep up the great work!

[@MrPaulMarlow]

REALLY appreciate your interpretation of this Tom Ford classic! Your presentation is always interesting and informative: Those 48 minutes flew by. Once again, well done-keep up the good work!

[@RyanParfums]

Thank you so much!

[@peaceice8755]

Thank you so much Ryan you are the best and the handsome ❤

[@angelab412]

I love your descriptions, and since I have started following you have learnt so much 🙏

[@logocracycopy]

I made this up yesterday and let it maturate overnight. Overall, it's very good. I compared it to the real Lost Cherry and here are some things I noticed - I would ease back on the benzyl aldehyde by about 2 parts. - The real version is 'crisper' and I think this is because the rose foundation layer brought by the PEA is lighter, so I would dial the PEA back by 2 parts also. - You could even bring the green more to the fore by increasing the citral and the cis 3 Hex Acetate up a 0.1 part each and even experiment with a tiny bit of Triplal.

[@RyanParfums]

Great suggestions! Thank you!

[@medfay2000]

Ryan you are right Dimethyl Anthranilate doesn't make schiff's base only methyl Anthranilate and Ethyl Anthranilate do schiff's base. Very interesting formula keep up Ryan. Thank you

[@RyanParfums]

Thank you for confirming!

[@MrDigitalWorks]

For a cherry like accord I always use, Vanillin, Ethyl Vanillin, Heliotropin and Davana (in small amounts). Benzyaldehyde is great but it fades away really quickly on my skin.

[@mochacola72]

Yes it fades extremely fast

[@science_bear]

What if you want a more berry/sour leaning cherry rather than a vanilla/nutty leaning cherry?

[@buddyalfalfa]

@@science_bear Maybe add berryflor??

[@tanyahiwa]

Thanks Ryan

[@christopherpriestley2468]

i heard you say about using too much ambroxan and how it leaves you smelling nothing. Do you also think it can leave you not being able to smell other materials? I feel im finding that

[@RyanParfums]

I can’t say that experience this. I’m able to smell other materials just fine after my nose ODs on ambrox. 🙂

[@Maxeerock]

Hi Ryan! i've read that this formula came from an AI, what would you say as the fragrance evolved now? Is it worth to try? Thank you so much!

[@RyanParfums]

The formula I found doesn't have the same structure as a, say, Aromatune formula. If there are other AI formula programs out there then let me know and I will review. As a standalone fragrance, this thing is a powerhouse. I've already made a few bottles for friends, and everyone loves it.

[@ParagonFragrances]

Another great video. 💥

[@daniellabuda7744]

Do you use diluted raw materials making these demo formulas? Nice video.

[@RyanParfums]

Yes, most of the time I’m using 10% dilutions

[@RyanParfums]

Thank you for this. I also found that Harrison Joseph stocks it as well. Time for another order 😃

[@Majidperfume]

I can't find ethyl caprylate and trans 2 hexenol, would removing them make much of a difference in the final scent? Or what can I replace them with?

[@RyanParfums]

I cannot find them either. In the formula I blend in the video, I excluded those two materials, and the juice still ended up smelling wonderful!

[@logocracycopy]

PellWall sells tran-2-hexenal at 0.1%. For the ethyl caprylate, while not a perfect substitute, you could try methyl caproate. Not the same though.

[@mochacola72]

Every time I go to buy Eugenol ,heliotropin and ethyl linalool it's sold out. My new materials get here tomorrow so I'm excited to smell them.

[@anasslytherven2336]

Thanks RYAN!

[@RyanParfums]

You’re welcome!

[@franklinfuertes]

Hi there Would you mind sharing what type of scale are you using?

[@RyanParfums]

Bonvoisin 0.001g - 200g scale. I found it on Amazon.

[@franklinfuertes]

Thank you 🙏🏽 I also followed you on IG! I’m currently waiting on some real non ifra oak moss resin 👀 I’m going to make my own take on a truly Cyphre perfum!

[@mochacola72]

I swapped out way too many to mention and some will be here tomorrow. I learn more when I have to improvise.

[@nightwolfzandi5717]

Maybe you can introduce me a way of communication so that I can ask you a few questions, because this is not the place

[@RyanParfums]

My email is in the “about”section of my channel page 🙂

[@nightwolfzandi5717]

@@RyanParfums thanks

[@Mahdizenzone]

5:10 random grown man noises 😂 Great job mate! Keep them coming❤

[@RyanParfums]

😂 I try hard to edit those out… but it’s so hard to catch them all! 😂 I need to drink more water, I think.

[@Mahdizenzone]

@@RyanParfums bro 1 hour each video commenting nonstop and working with all the fumes you're a superhero to even do such videos 😅 great job again it's all professional 👍🏻

[@RyanParfums]

@@Mahdizenzone thank you 🙂

[@nightwolfzandi5717]

Perfect

[@JeremyGasperowicz]

👍

[@tool5534]

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[@TheScenticist]

Hi Ryan, Great video again and those Tom Ford perfumes really have something to it that catches my interest. Maybe I can shed some light into the nitro musk topic you've mentioned. The very first synthetic musk was discovered by Albert Baur in 1888, a nitro musk called Musk Baur. He was tempering with toluene and isobtuyl bromide and nitrating the product in order to produce a more effective form of TNT. It was later replaced by Musk Xylene and Musk Ketone. Musk Ambrette is an other well known nitro musk, which all are built by attaching some nitro groups to a benzene ring. They have a slightly animalic character and they are told to represent closest the smell of actual natural animal musk, especially Musk Ketone. Musk Ambrette is prohibited by IFRA because of photo-sensitization and neurotoxicity, Musk Xylene is classified as very persistent and very bio-accumulative and also prohibited, where Musk Ketone remains the only nitro musk still allowed by IFRA. But as Musk Ketone might contain Musk Xylene as an impurity, there is a restriction of 0.1% of Musk Xylene content in Musk Ketone. But Musk Ketone also has been found to alter estrogen activity and can increase the growth of human breast cancer cells. So that's most probably why it is banned in Europe. They were replaced with polycyclic musks later, e.g. Galaxolide, which are nut much less problematic as they cause environmental problems. They don't degenerate easily or not at all. Mainly because of the excessive use in detergents for clothes and fabric finisher and similar products they are polluting increasingly the aquatic world on our planet and trough sea food are also ingested into the human system where they have a bio-accumulative effect. Especially Galaxolide and Tonalide have been found to be toxic to brain, lung and liver cells and being androgen / progesterone inhibitors for example. So, who knows, maybe some more very commonly used aroma chemicals to be banned soon by IFRA? So should we all give up perfumery now? Hell no! I'd rather loose my last couple of brain cells while sniffing some Galaxolide than not being able to use any Musk at all in my perfume! But seriously, what we should do is being aware of what we put into our perfumes, reduce excessive use and wherever possible replace problematic musks with some less problematic ones.

[@RyanParfums]

Always great to hear from you! Very interesting info about the musks. Thank you for sharing. Perfumery is a constantly shifting landscape. No matter what new restrictions are put in place down the road, human creativity will prevail!

[@KTLehman75_Fragrance]

Just found your channel and WOW. I'm impressed and intrigued. Where do you source the majority of your ingredients? I'd be interested in getting into the craft in the next year or so. Just curious.

[@RyanParfums]

I get my mats from a mix of places. Perhaps too many to name here. But some light reading on the Basenotes forum will surely mention all of them.

[@stevenlemke5843]

Great walkthrough Ryan, I really appreciate all the note descriptions. One minor correction in your formula list Norlimbanol is misspelled

[@RyanParfums]

Thank you! Just corrected 😊

[@AnassHajThami]

Your benzoin reaction was almost the same as mine when i first smelled real benzoin in Grasse 🤣🤣

[@RyanParfums]

It. Is. Amazing.

[@storkonstage]

Great interesting vid. 👌🏼 Is it possible you can do Chanel Egoïste? Still after all these years a true Jacques Polge masterpiece. I just don't know how to make such a fresh cinnamon in a frag. Greetz.

[@RyanParfums]

I'll keep an eye out for a formula

[@storkonstage]

@@RyanParfums 🙏🏼

[@iProFIFA]

Would love to see you make a fragrance like Platinum Egoiste by Chanel - my favorite designer perfume :-)

[@RyanParfums]

I may have that formula. 😃

[@RyanParfums]

I’m a huge fan of Pour Monsieur.

[@dawoadalyaqoby1952]

Thanks 🎉

[@PREPFORIT]

Thank You.

[@Ajibolaa]

Uh oh! This has to end up like Dr Pepper or else 😂😂😂

[@RyanParfums]

Why do you say that? Does Dr. Pepper have similar flavor compounds? (Forgive me, I can be a bit dense).

[@peaceice8755]

@@RyanParfumsi think this person who send this message about Dr Pepper is a troll or a young person don’t give them attention

[@Ajibolaa]

@@RyanParfums no no I’m not trolling sorry I Gould have been more concise and you’re not dense. Just that I grew up drinking cherry Dr Pepper and the last time I smelt lost cherry I got this feeling it smelt the way Dr Pepper cherry would have been if its smell was stronger. Sorry was an inside joke 😅😅

[@tool5534]

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