HOW TO MAKE PERSIMMON TREES BEAR HEAVY CROPS EVERY YEAR

Why don't persimmon trees bear fruit? If they are getting enough sunlight the simple reason is because they don't have a big enough roots system to support a crop .
This is usually because they were planted in too confined a hole which was dug in compacted soil that did not have enough organic matter. My persimmon trees and in fact every fruit tree I have ever planted has born heavy crops of fruit every year because I dont just dig a hole I dig a MINIMUM sized 8'long x8'wide X 8" deep (2.5M x 2.5Mx21cm deep ) EXCAVATION for each tree 8".
Then I make a few post holes 2-4 ft deep in the bottom of the excavation and fill those post holes with a 50-50 mix of pine bark mulch and dirt
Then fill the bottom 2-3 inches with pine bark mulch mixed with lime and rock phosphate and use a 6 lbs miners pick to break up the compacted dirt on the bottom of the excavated area while mixing the pine bark mulch deep into it ,
I fill with a 50-50 mix of pine bark mulch and dirt with a little compost thrown in until I have a mound at least 8"( 21cm) higher than the surrounding land.
I then haul the excess dirt that did not fit back in the hole to a low place where I need fill dirt
If you have a tree that is not bearing fruit just dig at least 4 evenly spaced trenches 12" wide x 8" deep x 6 or more feet long leading away from the tree .Start the trenches at the drip line of the tree using a miners pick and incorporate pine bark mulch into these trenches as I do in my tree excavations .You will soon have large crops of fruits and you only problem will be how to support the heavy fruit laden branches

[@ashrafulhaque8759]

What, you are 63?? You look great! I am 53 and the level of energy you got is beyond me. Keep going my man.

[@richarddetriquet9642]

I have found that my Fuyu Persimmons really dont like much fertilization at all. I maybe give them a top dressing of compost annually at bud break and thats it. They also require some fruit thinning when fruit is the size of a crab apple. Around 10 years ago I mistakenly mulched them with hardwood mulch which I needed to remove after a year as it really disrupted their growth and fruiting. Asian persimmons do want a light pruning annually to ensure good air flow and annual, not bienniel, fruit production. Bill Prestons book is very good on Asian Persimmons.

[@rbbiefah]

I found a book "Where Persimmon Was King" By william Preston . Its pricey. It that the correct book? It has pruning techniques? yes fruit thinning is hugely important on many vines and trees. I keep the anti weed mulch at least 1 foot away from the tree truck .It is for weed suppression not tree growth or crop bearing .It is very important to keep the graft line in opened air or it will kill the tree

[@agb0012000]

Well, this just throws my plans out of the water. I was hoping to grow my persimmon in a 24 inch pot. Your plan sounds so much better. It’s definitely the fruit I’m after, any way. Thanks a lot for your tips.

[@vnxettitw4879]

I'm planning on a 24 in pot too! In ground planting is not an option for me. I say go for it! I saw a video of a lady with a 25 gal pot & she got lots of persimmons from it.

[@why-ak]

I like that energy

[@VivianneHoang]

I did zero thing to my persimmon tree on clay soil and I still have tons and tons of persimmon each year, because the fuju was grafted on the american persimmon which is a native root stock that grow on any soil condition. No pruning, no fertilizer, no nothing. LOL

[@rbbiefah]

Im happy for you .Fuyu's are all grafted on American persimmon root stock. I would not be surprised to find that your tree is near an old buried rotten log .Any way it must have gotten a big root system some how. You will still benefit from fruit thiining ..you tree will live alot longer and the quality fop each fruit you leave on the tree will be better

[@rbbiefah]

Also there are different types of clay . There is the type that has been compacted and has quarts and chalk mixed in . I lived in the mountains and often our land had been cut out of the side of a mountain and was almost like bed rock .Then there is the soft type of clay that is like a fine silt. It turns very soft when it freezes and thaws and roost can easily spread in that excellent medium

[@VivianneHoang]

I think you’re right about different type of clay. The deer kind of eaten the lower leaves on the first couple of years, and eating off the fruits from the lower limbs. You’re also right about there was a Rotted tree 6-10’ nearby, I hire a guy to mulched stem and the native persimmon’s root siphoned the nutrients, we have decent rain here in the northeast

[@stevegaines-vq3bd]

which persimmon are you growing ? Jiro..?

[@stevegaines-vq3bd]

where are you at,,, Florida, b/c it's a whole lot easier to dig like that in a Florida, sandy soil....try digging like that on a Southern Ohio hillside.....you go down so far, 8-12" & you'll often hit rock.....I have several wild, American Persimmon trees, & just planted 2 Kieffer pear & 3 Jiro Persimmon, dug holes 2' wide 2' deep on the 2 bare root Jiro's, the other Jiro was in a 7 gal pot, dug a larger hole for it...added some higher quality soil mix, and mixed back in some of the native topsoil.....the 2 bare root trees are out performing the potted, more expensive Jiro....but they've all only been in the ground 4-5 weeks....but, I'm out of good planting area in this area, so i have to start going uphill & that ground is much worse.... i still have 3 Chinese chestnuts in 7 gal pots, waiting to plant them this October....may have to go w/ raised beds for them...? b/c i can't dig down very deep....I'll hit rock.... You're trees look fantastic.....If i'd of seen your video before i planted my 3 Jiro's, i'd of tried to of made wider holes, like you did....

[@rbbiefah]

NORTH CAROLINA .I lived in the mountains for 20 years , I dug like that swinging a miner pick . gravel was very cheep there . I mixed half gravel and half peat moss and filled my trenches with that -the roots spread and my trees did fantastic . I often hit granite and sometimes I had to use rock chisel and a sledge hammer -- like John Henry(the steel driving man )!!! It was well worth the effort Ip there you grow jiro . down here we grow Fuyu Believed me in te long ruin you;ll be glad you broke that rock and mad those root channels!

[@DavidSimsStocks]

"I'm 63 years old and running 10ks at 7 and a half minutes..." Start the videos with that comment!

[@rbbiefah]

1) stopped eating gluten grains and my speed and endurance picked up . 2) I started taking turmeric with black pepper and my speed and endurance picked up again 3) I stared eating moringa with mung sprouts with acid fruit (oranges or grapes ) and that really set me free BTW those are not official race times -that's a watch on a 1.5 mile loop

[@peterbedford2610]

Would digging a 8' x 8' x12" space around a tree I planted two years ago help? My soil is hard clay and I think it may be a big hindrance to my trees growth.

[@rbbiefah]

In your case dig root expansion trenches 10- 12” wide x 10- 12” deep radiating out from the tree at 12 -3-6-9 o’clock start the trenches from the drip line of the branches so you don’t injure existing roots. Haul the hard clay off and fill the trenchs with a mixture of 50% ¾” clean gravel and peat moss with appropriate lime (the gravel will keep mice out) etend these trenches to areas with rich soil if possible . Make these trenches 8-12 feet long .the roost will rapidly expand in them .Then lightly sprinkle 10-10-10 or Calcium nitrate or compost over these trenches in late spring and again in early summer to feed the trees .You will have huge crops

[@christopherschmitt4510]

Awesome tips!! are you in Florida also ?

[@rbbiefah]

North Carolina Zone 8a

[@roccoconte2960]

Great video ,what type of trees do you have?

[@rbbiefah]

The tag on them said "FUYUGAKI PERSIMMON " But giving a minimum 8'x8' x 12" deep pad of 50-50% organic matter and soil below ANY fruit tree or grape vine will boost its bearing capacity to the max

[@Marv12345]

Would Redwood bark be good to use as a soil conditioner ?

[@rbbiefah]

.If its not as acidic as pine bark mulch it may be better, One should always use what is local to one's area

[@josephjude1290]

How are the persimmon trees doing

[@rbbiefah]

After 13 year of very heavy bearing they are flourishing . Another way top get big crops is to pull of 2/3 of the persimmons/blooms before they reach dime size . persimmon trees, especially fuyus have a tendency to set way too much fruit so unless you pull the fruit while it is tiny or better yet p[ull the blooms the tree 3/4 drops it AFTER it has reached full size or near full size .This wastes a tremendous amount of energy from the trees reserves .It can stunt the trees growth and cause it to shed all it fruit but if 2/3 of the fruit/blooms are removed BEFORE they get 1/10 full size it saves a tremendous amount of energy so you not only get a bigger sweeter crop but a healthier longer living tree. Pruning does not help the tree bear more fruit as much as it helps the tree support the weight of heavy crops without breaking limbs Having a big roots system and fruit thinning will guarantee big high quality crops

[@rbbiefah]

But I must warn you that fruit thinning 2/3 of the blooms/fruit means pulling about 4000 blooms/frit of each tree and this will take 8 hours per tree pre spring and it is much harder when they get taller than you can reach from the ground so it MUCH easier in the long run to dig a hole that is AT LEAST 8'x8'x 10" deep and fill it with well structured organic matter (10'x10' is better ) then you tree will store so much energy in its root system that it can keep flourishing even when it is not thinned and still bear big crops ...maybe pruning can work to bear more crop if you prune to keep the tree so short that you can fruit thin it eachg year buit I just dug a hole between 8x8 and 10-10 and used pick up trucks of pine bark mulch to back fill them then enjoy the fruit for 20 years .

[@nailafarook2901]

Can you sell moringa tree

[@rbbiefah]

Buying moringa tree is rip off due to roots are all tied up . Just grow from seed. Keep unused seeds in freezer. so you can start new tree(s) each spring .from seed they will be healthier and grow faster and bigger

[@afrocraft1]

Amend the planting hole? Isn't that what arborists and horticulturists tell us _not_ to do with trees?

[@rbbiefah]

Yes if you were digging a DEEP narrow diameter hole in hard clay and filling it wit softy spongy organic matter because then root would never spread out of that hole AND you'd probably drown them but I do a SHALLOW WIDE BED OR SHALLOW TRENCH SYSTEM where the organic matter is no deeper that 10" deep and is spread out over a VERY VERY WIDE AREA (MINIMUM of 8 foot x 8ft preferably 10Ft x 10') or for existing trees you can dig trench(s) 10" deep staring at the drip line of the tree and radiating OUT from the tree another 6-12 feet.The idea is to get the roots to SPREAD OUT ALONG THE SURFACE 10" of soil surrounding the tree so they get lots of air