Grow Persimmon Trees!

[@heppylifestyle]

according to an NIH article: "Persimmon is naturally bestowed with bioactive molecules including proanthocyanidins, flavonoids, tannins, phenolic, carotenoids, dietary fiber, and etc. Persimmon leaves and fruit have imperative significance for coronary health because of hypocholesterolemic, anti-atherosclerosis and antioxidant perspectives...." it's an easy-to-grow tree! better to have Persimmons than an lawn! ;)

[@vnxettitw4879]

Love your personality!! I have 5 trees lol

[@danielescalona9759]

I love this guy , i wish i could meet him one day in fruit season since we are both in zone 7 , many more blessings my friends

[@heppylifestyle]

@danielescalona9759 well, a sincere thank you! thank you for those comments. fruiting has started; between June and Nov -- bonanza time (and, swatting flies, looking out for ground bees, pulling weeds.... :))) June's pickings: kzbin.infoGlGukwXlG2w thank you for stopping by Daniel!

[@solomon6675]

Enjoyed your video Sir! Thanks for Sharing!

[@heppylifestyle]

thank you Solomon -- thanks for the feedback & Happy New Year!

[@_DRWC_Official]

I just ordered a few different types of persimmons for a property in KY. Plan on visiting England’s nursery in eastern KY.

[@heppylifestyle]

n.i.c.e. hope any family in Eastern KY is well! yup, you can't go wrong at England’s! thx for stopping by!

[@beautifulwo]

Informative, useful and entertaining! Heppy thumbs up☺👍

[@Quercusalba205]

Love your channel, and thanks for sharing your experience-your a cool dude

[@heppylifestyle]

@jasonsnyder6045 well, thank you for the feedback!

[@sqwrrl]

I had a persimmon sapling given to me by my neighbor and I temporarily put it in one of my raised beds til I had time to plant it. It waited a year and then two before I dug it up to move it to its permanent location. Problem is I must have left a root behind and now there’s a proliferation of persimmons sprouting in the growing bed and it’s a headache.

[@heppylifestyle]

@@sqwrrl I'm no expert but the most common root stock is the Virginia native tree -- and it can sucker. Oddly, of all ~6 or 7 varieties I grow, only one suckers. Yup, sorta a pain. However, if you can transplant the suckers and once they start growing, graft other varieties to the sucker ;). Graft a great Japanese variety to it :))

[@timschannel910]

When is the best time to plant one in North Carolina, and what is the best to grow in North Carolina.

[@heppylifestyle]

@@timschannel910 great question! Best time is this fall. Anytime is good but it's been so hot, so wait til Sept-Oct or later. Winter & spring is also good 👍. I'm partial to the Japanese varieties, D. kaki. Great production on compact trees. Izu and Matsumoto stand out. Nikita's Gift is a hybrid and u can't go wrong with it too. Thanks for stopping by! 👨‍🌾🐞

[@ericwiltz6584]

Very nice production! The astringent variety in Japan are highly prized fruits! If you want to enjoy persimmon, look up dried persimmon from Japan, EXPENSIVE, but OMG what a treat!

[@heppylifestyle]

i look forward to traveling through Asia and especially Japan. i've read that they do wonderful things with Persimmon! thanks for stopping by Eric!

[@BrovaKain_357]

I live in zone 7. Im would like only one persimmon tree in my tiny back yard. I would like a Asin persimmon that is very short in height and width and is low maintenance. Non astringent is great. Thank you for your recommendations. Video was on point

[@heppylifestyle]

i became so drawn to Asian Persimmon that we planted a Izu, Sajio and Giant Fuyu in spring 2023. the Matsumoto i can 'speak to' -- can't wait for the other Asians to develop in our yard. glad you pulled something from the vid; yes, Asian are compact, and produce most produce non astringent fruit. Garden on!

[@raymondkyruana118]

So glad to discover this channel!!! Where did you buy the trees?

[@heppylifestyle]

well thank you! sellers varied (i explore nurseries ;) sellers for each described at bottom of my webpage heppy.org/persimmon-fruit-tree/. we love the persimmon so much i bought 3 more varieties -- i'll post them soon!!! i really appreciate the feedback! thank you raymond. pete moss

[@raymondkyruana118]

@@heppylifestyle Awesome thank you!!! Can't wait to see the updates!

[@nicmic6138]

I greatly appreciate the uncensored take off things, subscribed

[@heppylifestyle]

Appreciate the feedback and sub! Take care!

[@rescuemay]

You def sold me on persimmons!

[@heppylifestyle]

awesome! from the few varieties we grow, favorite is Wase Fuyu "Matsumoto" (short tree with fat tasty fruit) and number 2 is Nikitas Gift (well shaped tree, no muss & no fuss, and great tasting medium sized fruit). yup, i just kept selling it ;) thanks for stopping by....

[@shadygerges4869]

Hey, thanks for the video I love persimmons can you recommend the right tree for zone 4

[@heppylifestyle]

thank you for the feedback. hope you subscribed! i don't have a particular one to recommend; i do recommend the species, Diospyros virginiana. zone 4 is the upper limit of the American Persimmon (native or cultivar). look only for the species name, "Diospyros virginiana". (I think ur too cold for the Asian cultivars, Diospyrus kaki.). which one? the type of American Persimmon is personnel! ;))) i'd feel better having you research ur choices. some quality nurseries are here:heppy.org/exotic#nurseries_that_sell_types_of_exotic_fruit_trees_and_other_edible_plants i truly hope this helps. take care, pete moss

[@jadezx974]

Nice!!!

[@SowGoodGardener]

Great video my friend! I just planted a Fuyu Persimmon myself a couple weeks ago. New sub to your channel and I look forward to watching your content. -Calvin

[@heppylifestyle]

well thank you Calvin! I just sub'd to your channel! am glad you planted an Asian Persimmon!

[@kariselin1484]

Persimmons are great! We have a nikitas gift and Jiro among some improved American persimmon trees and they are all really awesome!

[@heppylifestyle]

glad you're on-board Kari! Persimmon fruit tastes candy -- unbelievable! Pawpaw is like custard, Persimmon is like candy! and thx for stopping by! 🍊👍

[@stevegaines-vq3bd]

excellent video....i too have been bitten by the Persimmon bug.....planted 3 Jiro Persimmons last may, 2 are fine, 1 died from ants eating the roots, is it ok to plant some in October, or do i need to wait until next April/May.....?

[@heppylifestyle]

@stevegaines-vq3bd thank you for the feedback and sorry you lost one. once a Persimmon gain traction it's over -- they're a resilient tree (hence, our Persimmon bug :). yes, Oct is a great time to plant. depending on your zone (like, NOT in a hot location), i water once -- very well -- when planning in Fall. i'm in zone 7. thanks for stopping by and let me know how things go!

[@katie6of10]

I have a brand new persimmon tree (in the ground since this spring), and it is having a hard time staying up, especially with fruit on it...I ended up cutting off everything except one, but it's still having a hard time. How do you get your trees to grow so beautifully upright without supports? Most persimmon trees that I see online have supports on all the fruit bearing branches, but I saw that you didn't have any. What's your secret?!?!

[@heppylifestyle]

young trees can produce a mass amount of fruit; our Nikitas Gift went nuts (kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqCzo6Jrgqtpl7s). we lost some branches. sometimes i'm too lazy to use supports ;). removing fruit is OK to save the tree from literally breaking -- u did the right thing. this winter, prune so that you create a good structure and use stakes to gently make her straight. i accomplish a few things when pruning: one thing is to "tighten" the tree by cutting ideal branches 1-2 feet back from the tip. that promotes a tighter, more compact branching; the ideal branches ticken over time, and carry more weight. i have to do some serious pruning and i'll shoot a vid. also, they grow different. the Rosseyanka is so tall; the Matsumoto (Wase Fuyu) is so small; and all in between. thank you for the compliment, and thanks for stopping by!

[@katie6of10]

I have a Jiro persimmon. Yes, any information you have about very young trees (staking them, how much you thin the fruit, how the branches grow after you shorten them) after you put them in the ground would be amazing! It's very hard finding information about persimmon trees, since they are a relatively rare crop in the US. Even some people who make videos specifically of their persimmon trees have very unhealthy looking trees, so there's a lot of misinformation out there. Thanks for your very informative reply!

[@heppylifestyle]

​@katie6of10 hey Katie -- i'll keep these comments in mind for my annual Persimmon vid; i have some info here (heppy.org/persimmon) and ur welcome to critique it (ie, what's missing and i'll revise). IN GENERAL, + i use 3 stakes on all newly planted trees (first stake is against the predominant wind direction; space the other two stakes evenly); + i leave 1-2 fruit/s on newly planted trees (allow plant's energy to go to the roots); + use little or no fertilizer when they're young (I read) but composting around the tree is good; + be patient i'm learning EVERY year and place what i learn into my vids. i hope this helped! thanks for stopping by!

[@katie6of10]

This is really helpful. I'll be watching the rest of your persimmon videos (and more, I'm sure!) as I have time. Thank you so much for the information!

[@TV-yj9mh]

Thanks for an info. This guy funny . Looking great

[@heppylifestyle]

thank you TV!!

[@AGBornJamaican]

Loving this

[@heppylifestyle]

thank you AG Born Jamaican! thanks for stopping by & plz subscribe and be good!, pete moss

[@RR-qo8bp]

It has been two long years. Can you provide an update on the trees and fruit production estimation? No need to show fruits or leaves, just branches is enough. Also, are you selling scions this year? Are all your rootstock for the hardy plants, American varieties?

[@heppylifestyle]

hi! i'm involved in a major 're-do' of heppy.org and a bit overwhelmed :(. so this is a linked-based reply :) 1. took many shorts of my Persimmon this Fall: kzbin.info/aero/PLiRqd6MeiGbKBHqCHSqRmuARFMih0c99V 2. also, i revised my webpage for the ones i'm growing: heppy.org/persimmon#Persimmon_fruit_tree_in_garden 3. yes, we have scion -- thank you or asking! heppy.org/persimmon#scion 4. rootstock: i never ask nurseries but probably should. but i think i know where you're going -- yes, i hope they're on American rootstock. but i'm also zone 7 so my girls should be safe ;) thanks for stopping by!

[@grandwonder5858]

I have a few baby persimmon trees sprouting out from the ground after I dug out the original persimmon tree from the ground last year to be planted in my new home. Unfortunately, my persimmon tree does not survive in its new home that I planted it in. However, when I went back to my old home I saw that there are new baby persimmon trees growing from the roots of the old persimmon tree that I have dug out. Obviously, while the persimmon tree has died its roots that are underground are still alive and those roots have sprouted new baby persimmon trees! Can you tell me how I can dig out these new baby persimmon trees from the ground and plant them in my new property without killing them? How much soil should I leave with their roots when I dig them out, what kind of growth hormones should I use to encourage their growth, how often should I water them, and should I leave them in the shade or the sun within the first few weeks of their new home? I have tried planting a couple of the baby trees, but they wilted and died. I want to make sure they live the next time I dig them out and plant them in my new home. You seem to know a lot about persimmon, I greatly appreciate it if you would share some of your knowledge with me! Thanks for any suggestions you can give me!

[@heppylifestyle]

this is a tricky and excellent question. a question i'm still learning more about! i provide my $0.02 below but this forum has experimenters, experienced growers, and really smart people: growingfruit.org/ ur questions is tricky in that, i'm 80% sure those suckers (the sprouted new baby persimmon trees) are the root sys below the graft! our Rosseyanka (as you saw) has those sprouts but i'm thinking it's the root stock that the Rosseyanka was grafted onto. our native persimmon -- a large patch of all males -- do the same thing. by nature, Persimmon have a patch-forming (clonal) root system. SO, worse-case scenario i'm pulling root stock that graft onto. trickiness#2: after filming this vid, i yanked 4-5 suckers out of the ground and potted them. just pulled them. it was a test. of 4-5 suckers, 1 survived. my test was in Fall -- the suckers were not dormant. to your question (if i were to transplant more purposefully): 1. how much soil: i'd dig-up the plants in winter and you'll see that the sprout is coming from a large, fat root. not a whole bunch of fine 'feeder roots.' gather as much feeders roots as possible. my sense is, soil is less important if the tree is dormant; need the finer, feeder roots. 2. growth hormones are sorta standard from what i've seen. the hormones i've purchased are yet to be used! my hands are full planting -- sorry! 3. shade or sun: the looser the soil, the more likely you want part shade until she recovers. they tolerate dry conditions BUT these transplants need some moisture. all my transplants go into a part shade area. a little sun but mostly shade with good air circulation. for me, ~EVERY plant transplanted / planted in winter gets watered once when planted and then that's it. i let them wake-up in Spring and assess. 4. i sense that your best bet is to gather up to 6-10 suckers when they're dormant. no more than 18" of plant above-soil. gather all the feeder roots you can. sorry for the long reply but your question got me thinking....

[@patriciaelena0928]

Love your video, having problems with the sound... thanks for sharing

[@heppylifestyle]

thank you Patricia, and thanks for the feedback! the sound issues is :(. i just bought a new iphone -- help is on it's way :) thanks for stopping by!, pete moss

[@MsLinjohn]

where did you buy the trees from? your bareroots are big and tall.

[@heppylifestyle]

hi TINA! we use various, Mom & Pop nurseries. i give 'em credit on my webpages too if you ever want to dive into the specific trees or nurseries ;) for Persimmon: heppy.org/persimmon#organically_grown_Persimmon England’s Orchard and Nursery, Edible Landscape, Natives of Texas and ... :( Lowes :(. we totally advocate Mom & Pop nurseries ;) ********************************* all nurseries we use: heppy.org/exotic#nurseries_that_sell_types_of_exotic_fruit_trees_and_other_edible_plants Thanks for stopping by TINA the lil' Hush Puppy Basset Hound. plz sub!!

[@erlindajohnson1440]

What kinda soil do you use for planting and what kinda Fertilizer ?

[@heppylifestyle]

i need to make a vid' regarding soil because i'm nutty about soil ;). in general, 1/3 equal parts of decayed woodchips, native soil (loam / clay-loam) and black compost (like, Leafgro). but our holes are really big, and then we mound the soil (~12 inches above grade) and plant our girls on that! stakes are important because the soil is so loose. 10-10-10 fert in spring. hope that helped, thanks for stopping by, and please subscribe!

[@abrahamandmarychakkalakal1445]

I have one 7 year's old no fruit.15ft toll. I heard male and female tree.how to find out.this year first time saw small flower less than 10.what to do please... very healthy tree.????

[@heppylifestyle]

Hi Abraham & Mary, short answer: graft Persimmon scion to the non-fruiting tree. long answer: is your tree a cultivar or wild variety? Persimmon DO have male and female trees. our wild Persimmon are 100% male (no fruit). Male Persimmon trees have flowers that are smaller and appear in small clusters. female flowers are larger and appear alone. i have a close-up picture of female flowers in the first set of picture on my webpage: heppy.org/persimmon. IF your non-fruiting Persimmon tree is a female, a cultivar and not fruiting, then it could be minerals or, she's shy :/. the tree has not developed into thriving fruiting plant. whether male or not thriving female, grafting scion to the tree is one solution (especially since you have a mature root system on a 7 year old tree). take care, please subscribe, and good luck!

[@bluegrassdiggers9030]

Ive had NG at least thats what it was labeled as in ground since 2017 its now 9 foot tall. Its only had 1 bud on it so far and it fell off. Im thinking I've put too much nitrogen on her over the years, any thoughts?

[@heppylifestyle]

Fish & Kelp Fertilizer (micronutrients), increase potassium (trusted source), and amend soil (can't go wrong). but that's only my stab at it Bluegrass! ******************************** do you have other fruit trees and how are they doing (am measuring ur 'green' thumb')? if the NG stands out as the one turd in ur garden, then consider grafting scion to her. amend the soil with compost (rotted woodchips and/or cured manure, black organic soil). to be thorough, dig-in amended soil around the tree's drip line (around the edge of it's growth). i'm fanatical about rich soil. potassium deficiency may be an issue (I read). and in 2022 i'll be applying a Fish & Kelp Fertilizer for micronutrients. i've read great reviews about how plants react to Fish & Kelp Fertilizer for micronutrients. and to your question, too much nitrogen my be an issue. 5-10-10 fert is recommended for these girls (nitrogen-phosphorus-potassium). if you start in 2022, my sense is that your work will only truly payoff starting in 2023, by the way.

[@bluegrassdiggers9030]

@@heppylifestyle Thanks for suggestions.

[@billierpaxton9260]

Do those taste the same as the wild ones?

[@heppylifestyle]

Yes, in general. To me, I taste nuances and textures because I eat many varieties of Persimmon. But generally, all Persimmon fruit are super sweet and taste similarly :) Thanks for stopping by!

[@denieshasmith6195]

Oh man! I would love a plant of this

[@heppylifestyle]

;) thanks for stopping by Deniesha. Wase Fuyu "Matsumoto" is our favorite. we just planted a Izu, Giant Fuyu and Saijo Persimmon trees. let's see what happens ;)

[@ngocbirrer9310]

Just listened to you talk about the persimmons tree I just want to ran out and get mea tree👍😅👍😅

[@heppylifestyle]

;). awesome, ngoc! i also get too excited talking but i'm glad you got the vibe. of the ~5 varieties we grow, we most adore the Wase Fuyu "Matsumoto", Asian Persimmon (Diospyros kaki). Nikitas Gift, Hybrid Persimmon (Diospyros virginiana x kaki) is #2. be sure to give your girl/s good soil -- big hole, and amend with organic material. thanks for stopping by!

[@griseldagarfin6821]

Sir hello. I ask about seeds.wherre i gonna buy persemmon seeds sir? I really want to plant it.ilike the taste sko much.

[@heppylifestyle]

hello Griselda, i can send you 20-30 seeds for free in October-November but the professional supplier i trust is England's Orchard and Nursery, www.nuttrees.net/. Cliff is SOOOO much smarter than me. i hoped this helped and thanks for stopping by!

[@aissaalexeeva2528]

Nikita’s gift and Rossianka are 2 hybrids cultivated in Russia. These 2 were made to grow in Russian coldness.

[@heppylifestyle]

They are incredible cultivars! Thank you for the info Elis, and thanks for stopping by!

[@abrahimhasan7215]

hi l do live in vancouver bc Canada can i Grow it here by the way i love your Trees

[@heppylifestyle]

i think you can grow Persimmon in Vancouver! check the plant zone (like, use Washington state for guidance). you MAY be warmer than us in Maryland! planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/ and you have SO many nurseries in Washington & Oregon and, i'm sure there's fantastic ones around Vancouver! thank you for the feedback Abrahim! sincerely, pete moss

[@geeva655]

Sir if we have single persimmon plant and no idea male or female does it mean it won’t bear fruits

[@heppylifestyle]

hi Gee Va! females bear fruit & males don't. they ~typically bear fruit -- at least a few -- from an early age. did you buy her from a nursery or, "inherit' it (was already on ur property)? how tall is the Persimmon and, does she flower at all? those are three key questions that come to my mind. we have native Persimmon that are all male (no fruit). all our non-native Persimmon are female -- they fruited from a young age (straight out of a 5 gallon pot). hope that helped Gee Va, and thanks for stopping by. plz subscribe!, pete moss

[@geeva655]

@@heppylifestyle Thanks for your reply. I bought it from Costco where other plant trees were hybrid variety

[@heppylifestyle]

@@geeva655 there's a 99% chance that u have a female. Costco is a very reputable company. you'll be fine! BUT, you should know your "girls" name -- like, what cultivar it is :) the cultivar (variety) will have tendencies (height, fruit size, and more ;)

[@2Birds1Stone_]

Awesome !

[@heppylifestyle]

thank you! 😀

[@richarddetriquet9642]

The suckers are American trees. Less than half will be female and produce fruit, maybe 40pct. They make great trees if you prefer the flavor of American varieties.

[@heppylifestyle]

yes, and need erosion control :/ i'd have planted her (Rosseyanka) more to the side if i knew it sucker this much. thanks for stopping by Richard, pete moss

[@nicmic6138]

Bonus points for "I've had a lot of coffee" subscribed my wife

[@heppylifestyle]

Thank u for the laugh -- cool! It's legal and works!! :)

[@lucasbarahona9384]

I did like the video

[@heppylifestyle]

thank you Lucus!

[@jrap0003]

I find my persimmon trees very slow growing. It is now after 2 years that im seeing some significant growth

[@heppylifestyle]

i'm heading out to garden so my answer is quick: soil is the #1 issue. dig into the soil some manure, black compost or decaying woodchips -- or anything composy. don't only lay the amendments on the surface -- dig the amendment into existing soil. be SURE not to be too close to the tree trunk with digging-in amendments. alternatively, put a top dressing of black compost and some 10-10-10 fert. hang in there Joseph, and thanks for stopping by!

[@jrap0003]

@@heppylifestyle did this this season and noticed immediate growth thanks

[@heppylifestyle]

@@jrap0003 great news!!! sorry for all the 'explaining' stuff -- am glad you're working the soil! our favorite Persimmon -- Wase Fuyu (Matsumoto) -- was the only one to develop slowly. just like you, we kept at it and we're starting to see solid growth.

[@MiCa-zd8iq]

Can we grow persimmon trees in Arizona ?

[@heppylifestyle]

hey Mi Ca. i'd say "yes, in general." as you know AZ includes the beautiful desert & mountains to the north (we vacation in AZ every ~2 yrs, from Organ Pipe to Flagstaff). the American varieties are more cold hardy (Zones 4 to 9). zone 4 is sketchy but i don't see a zone 4 in AZ. Asian Varities are more like zones 5-9 (zone 5 is borderline). I prefer the Asian, non-astringent & large fruit from the Matsumoto. Nikita's Gift is a stellar & dependable cultivar. plant zones: www.arborday.org/media/zones.cfm my site may help: heppy.org/persimmon-fruit-tree/ use this site for reference (zones, varieties): ediblelandscaping.com/products/trees/PersimmonAsian/ use this site for reference (zones, varieties): ediblelandscaping.com/products/trees/PersimmonAmerican/ ** and plz subscribe ;)

[@MiCa-zd8iq]

@@heppylifestyle thank you

[@bettyparker9112]

How could I order one

[@heppylifestyle]

Hi Betty! my trusted sources are here: heppy.org/exotic#nurseries_that_sell_types_of_exotic_fruit_trees_and_other_edible_plants we're harvesting & eating them now! the Wase Fuyu "Matsumoto" is simply the best variety we have ;) thanks for stopping by, pete moss

[@drpk6514]

You look like Omid Djalili

[@heppylifestyle]

@@drpk6514 🤓🤣🧑🏼‍🌾✌️

[@dennischinasen9392]

👍

[@emiliotroiano157]

Do u sell any trees

[@heppylifestyle]

someday we will Emilio ;) sorry my friend, we have no trees. where in the world are you gardening? ✈ however, we can ship scion. $15 for a bundle of 5 scion plus $6.50 shipping. We ONLY have Nikita's Gift scion.

[@ericwiltz6584]

Why are you allowing the suckers to grow so large? That's a tremendous amount of lost energy!

[@heppylifestyle]

tell me about it. yup, i have to stay on it Eric :/

[@doubleooh7337]

you know plants grow bigger and bigger that's because they produce EXCESS energy.

[@Free_Falastin2024]

"Lost energy" is a myth. The greater the surface area available for photosynthesis, the greater the capacity of the plant to grow and produce. Also, root suckers have their own root system and support themselves. There's no harm in allowing the suckers to grow if you don't have time to get rid of them. You might get some interesting fruit out of it.