HOW TO MAKE YOUR KICKS AND 808s HIT HARDER!

[@timmyaudio]

1. Pick a good 808 w a decent transient 2. Boost 2-4% 3. Add some high end on the EQ setting in the sampler 4. (At this point it should be slamming through the mix / redlining the mixer) 5. Add a fruity compressor / threshold it at 0 / compress to liking, add slight gain to have it peaking just slightly 6. Add fruity limiter and turn everything down to 0 except threshold, make sure it doesn't pass 0, add slight saturation to get a little crunch 7. Pull the mixer gain .5-1 DB so you have a little headroom, but for a trap beat ur 808 should by far be the most focused point, cause if ur 808 doesn't slap the beat doesn't slap 8. Now ur 808 sounds industry ready and doesn't destroy your entire mix by clouding it :)

[@canton18]

Thank you bro. This was very helpful

[@biomes5836]

or invest in good kits that don’t need any of this bs😂

[@timmyaudio]

@@biomes5836 Mans didn't even read step one and runs his mouth 💀💀💀

[@biomes5836]

@@timmyaudio go back to ya npc type beats bucko

[@timmyaudio]

@@biomes5836 Find Jesus

[@Xevics]

Put an EQ on 808, Add a Peak controller on Kick Link first frequency from EQ to peak controller & invert the scale. Thank me later

[@cedarstar152]

^^ I do this and it works every time

[@DoD-t2d]

Well.. just I think pushing back 808's attack is a tip to do a clean mixing without changing phase..

[@jdxsh]

i hate sidechaining like that, this is better, really doing that type of sidechaining makes it sound more dead imo

[@ISHI6I]

if ur worried about the kick clashing with ur 808… just synthesize your 808s yourself. Kick/sub phase is extremely trivial. Now… when you start using reverb+disto+extreme width.. on your subs high harmonic layers… just mid side eq your sides and leave the sub center, (if ur bass does not stay completely still whilest sustaining a note (its out of phase)

[@jdxsh]

yep

[@DoD-t2d]

@@ISHI6I No. If you listen to the many hip hop instrumental tracks released, you can easily hear the 808's attack weakened even when there is no kick. Honestly, I also use side chains through compressors a lot when I make other genres of songs such as Deep House and Pop. But not as much as in the trap. Flatly, Kenny beats and other producers agree too

[@stillgotyourmom]

​@@DoD-t2dIts actually the magic to find an 808 and kick matching together. If it klicks together you will have less trouble to push it up and have power with the unique sound.

[@SibaNL]

Man discovers sidechaining. Try using volume automation for sidechaining as it gives way more control.

[@Flicky800]

@@Potent1al automation clips with fruity balance volume

[@positiveman4605]

Takes longer and causes latency

[@TwiztOndaBeat]

That sounds like unnecessary work

[@SibaNL]

@@TwiztOndaBeat Ok Twizt on da Beat

[@Elektr0hazard]

​@@TwiztOndaBeat just use Gross Beat and you're good

[@BoomdockBeats]

Hitting hard!!🔥

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

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[@pathos_music]

​@@JASPERTUTORIALSsorry mate i cant do this im stuck to the forbidden daw

[@rlyBeats]

when mike dean, alex tumay, and kenny beats all say dont sidechain, i think its best to look at the more effective alternatives

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

Mike Dean’s one of the GOATs so I wouldn’t disagree with him, but there’s really no “right” or “wrong” with music production, if you like how it sounds then you should be free to do whatever you think sounds best

[@rlyBeats]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS yeah definitely, just dont use it as a bandaid for clashing kicks and 808s & dont use it like this “to make your 808 hit harder” because it will do the opposite of that

[@RootboyFrenzyMat]

Ur kick and 808 won't clash if u mix properly at first

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@rlyBeats for sure, kicks and 808s should be properly mixed to ensure they don’t clash. This was just a quick 1 min tutorial on how to sidechain drums to add punch to an 808. There’s plenty of other methods which I would use but would take a lot longer than 1 minute to explain. Making the 808 “hit harder” os maybe the wrong way of describing it, I’m actually “adding punch to my 808”

[@rlyBeats]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS idk bro. takes less time to show phase alignment in fl, plus like i said this doesnt add punch to an 808, youre ducking the 808, so any punch it did have is gone/reduced depending how much you duck by. theres way better ways to do this & honestly this kinda info can be harmful for beginners. its great that youre showing people how to side chain, but under the guise of adding punch is not so great

[@ithurtstolove]

People saying not to do this don't understand clashing frequencies, the kick and the 808 have the same low end frequencies at around 35 in the eq, both the kick and 808 frequencies are clashing causing clipping and distortion, if u sidechain the kick to the 808 this solves this issue by letting one frequency stand out. If you don't want the 808 to stand out, then just don't use a kick. Stop complaining about it doesn't sound good, because in the right context it does, if you want an unprofessional mix then go on ahead.

[@Synthpoptroubadour]

I don’t quite understand, the 808 is a drum kit whereas a kick is a sound within that drum kit… Would you mind explaining what he means in this video? I don’t quite get it.

[@g4merkakyoin]

​@@Synthpoptroubadouran 808 isn't a drum kick. It's a really low synth bass so you use it like a normal instrument. The only thing you have to worry about is the fact that an 808 and a kick drum have the same frequencies most of the time, but apart from that you shouldn't treat it like drums

[@RootboyFrenzyMat]

​@@Synthpoptroubadourit's like saying subbass is a drumkit, it's just low frequency. That's the problem here, 808 is low frequency too

[@RootboyFrenzyMat]

Like the kick too

[@martyrx3436]

Mixed By Ali must not know what he’s talking about then lol…

[@illagevidiot8254]

Right click the sidechain dropdown and pick the exact channel you want. Don't tell them to just pick "1". Granted it'll only have the channel you have side chained to it, but knowing that in and of itself has some uses for someone who has no idea what sidechain compression is used for as it is.

[@SirSmizzi]

Damn that’s shyt did sound hard 😂

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

Appreciate it bro!

[@SirSmizzi]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS thanks for showing us 🙌🏿💪🏿

[@gaborobaza8107]

Sidechain always goes hardd

[@streddl3]

Хорошо подкопал Арута, спасибо за проделанный труд!

[@vukan.mp3]

putting ur kick at a lower note in the piano role also helps them hit harder 🙇‍♂️

[@staticminimal]

Better use a Peak Controller, you dont always want to compress Kick and bass. With Peak Controller you only effect the voume and input time on the 808, with fruity Limiter you automatically add compression, that will steal brightness from your low end mix

[@dominicmcareavey2675]

It’s about sound selection as well

[@prod3thernal]

Don't sidechain guys. It makes the 808 punch useless

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

The 808 punch is sidechained so that the kick punch (which hits harder) is playing instead of the 808

[@prod3thernal]

@JASPERTUTORIALS but 808 and kick clashing can be avoided by using better fitting/quality sounds and sometimes by reversing the polarity of the kick or even eq slotting.

[@ThatMannKevin]

Guy said “the Aye oh aye 🥴

[@CHANCEL3R]

freddie dredd been doing this for years

[@jotzky9887]

The chain input may not be number 1 make sure to double check 😁

[@JaredSoSunny]

You don’t need to sidechain your kick to a 808, just pick the right kick and make sure the phase lines up

[@birdlion2484]

I still like the long trap 808s. I know they're old but they were underused and the 2017-2019 808s were barely audible and had not bass. All of the songs with long and loud 808s were big hits.

[@vodvillain]

Spinz really did fuck up trap drums imo

[@jotajsmoint]

I say the same

[@uz8587]

bro just explained side chaining like its some secret trick he found

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

I never said it was a secret trick? There’s a load of beginners who watch my videos who need to learn this kind of stuff

[@Ludo_On_The_Beat]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS thats the first time i understand sidechain so thank you a lot

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@Ludo_On_The_Beat gotchu bro! Glad it helped :)

[@GamingGuineaPig]

​@Ludo_On_The_Beat Same here, I've watched a few of your videos, and the people in the comments are always really mean 😭 the producing community seems to be quite harsh sometimes 😞 Anyway- I find your tutorials really useful! 🫶

[@bruceisonline]

@@JASPERTUTORIALSsame THANK YOU

[@moocisian]

Idk man I just put in a bunch of kicks together turned up the volume for all kicks in the mixer and i think it hits hard enough

[@DivineChanneling6]

Can’t believe I been making beats for 13+ years and never thought about making the open hat pattern the same as the kicks lmao 🥲

[@ruinajoven]

You dont need sidechain if you check the 808 and kick's phase and make sure they are aligned before selecting them

[@KunalKumar-jt1xl]

Bro increasing velocity in piano roll does not matter if they are all the same, the final output is totally depend upon good EQing and better mixing.😊 (To learn more follow Unbeasic Mixing this is my channel and i will teach you great mixing and even mastering tricks without wasting your precious time. I learned it all from paid courses and youtube and now its time to give it back to the community❤)

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

Velocity directly affects timbre in 99% of plugins, which completely changes the sound

[@Synthpoptroubadour]

I don’t quite understand, the 808 is a drum kit whereas a kick is a sound within that drum kit… Can anybody explain this to me?

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

A drum kit is a folder that contains multiple kick, clap, snare, hihat, percussion, 808 bass, sounds!

[@emmieeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

better and easier way of doing this is to lower the low end of your kicks slightly with an eq, then do the exact opposite to the low end of the 808

[@asimwtf]

bro try removing the fruity limiter on the master then add a soft clipper thats it

[@koppy82]

This is a tip? Thought sidechaining was a must for kick and bass lol

[@HappilyAnonymousGirl]

Why are people assuming he just learned this, when the video is a tutorial? If you know how to do it and what it’s called, great. No need to be negative… I’d rather see more helpful tips in the comments, than to see people tearing someone down for teaching total newbies.

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

I agree, it’s weird isn’t it. People seem to think that they have to prove that they know more than everyone else

[@harjyots]

Bro found out about sidechaining

[@TheCurtainLift]

When hip hop producers learn what side chaining is lmfao

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

I’m teaching the right way of sidechaining - not the other useless tutorials I see on KZbin

[@TheCurtainLift]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS I know I’m just pointing out how a pretty beginner mixing technique is relatively unknown to an entire genre of “producers”

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@TheCurtainLift I don’t thinking sidechaining is unknown 🤣 I’m just doing a tutorial to show the best way to do it

[@j.r.a.inthacut8148]

Why are you sidechaining with a limiter...use volume automation with a plug in like duck. It will keep your kick and bass phase relationship in tact.

[@Mish53]

How would I explain this... A kick is a Kick and your 808s are 808s the two are different audio forms they are not the same thing, don't treat them as such... Side chaining would link them and remove a significant part of both separate audios as engineers we try our best to not harm the individual audios themselves and we treat them with care cause we aren't producing or doing major sound designs. Do you understand why you shouldn't sidechain the kicks and 808s?... One word tip though... "Distortions".

[@Brotherinchristt]

But if u dont side chain, they are gonna sound muddy

[@RootboyFrenzyMat]

U can phase them together but really just anything works. It's just a matter of how you want ur beat to sound

[@Mish53]

@@Brotherinchristt it's not going to be muddy. Just get your gain staging right everything would work together then distort your 808s

[@tripsixkid]

Shut up reddit

[@TragicTv3]

Sidechain is fine as long as you can add balance and harmony between the weight of the 808 & the kick. These are just cheap hacks for good bass, really it would be proper to design the sub bass & kick separately for a better marriage. But then again music is art and it’s all about the desired outcome there’s no one, best,or perfect way and we all have opinions.

[@portomilk8080]

I never understood maxing out velocities for drums and 808.

[@NiKO-yo8tz]

Are you from Australia?

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

UK :)

[@reallypuma]

What 808 ya like? spinz?

[@1NOTEGBEATZ]

Do you also eq & flip phase for hours after till really thuds? You want to double up your 808 & send the kick to a completely different channel - then flip the phase on either.

[@yirmiuc6107]

Learn about stauration/distortion and you will be able to make almost everything hit hard

[@hbartram11]

Is it better to side chain kick and bass through the limiter or the peak control?

[@armywithluv55]

Why did you call 808 to the bass?

[@honeyfarms2221]

808 - Soundgoodizer (Setting D no change) - Fruity EQ 2 Kick Preset (no change) Kick - Soundgoodizer (Setting D no change) - Fruity EQ 2 Kick Preset (Gain +6)

[@FLStudioHead]

🤦‍♂️ soundgoodizer? On a 808? Bro yall need to stop overprocessing sounds. The 808’s sound good without the extra effects. I literally use no effects on my 808’s. I may eq to take sum highs out or boost lows but thats it.

[@Benowww]

Bro can you tell me a free and good drum kit for har trap? With nice 808

[@LifeOutsideSin]

Chu "centerfold kit"

[@maxim8967]

Or just use reverse polarity on the kick

[@MYSTERIOUSPLAGUEDOCTOR]

So how would this work for FL studio mobile users? Im stuck with mobile atm with a unison beatmaker blueprint pack, cymatics drum samples. So are u basically saying to SC the 808 and leave the kick alone?

[@steveStonehedge]

Can you be my producer friend if I make it on the industry ?

[@MOR4PH]

Nope, heres an easier one. Limit your melody line. Eq your lows and make air for the speakers to breathe air benders. The kick and the 808 and the snare should route directly out to mastér channel. Focus on Eq on the master after you hear everything.

[@MoonDeityStar]

I just started but it only let me use the black notes instead of both help me pls

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

I know how to fix this but its gonna be pretty impossible to explain on here, jump in the discord and ill send you a screen record of how to fix

[@prodbydmaterialz]

Every 808 sounds good on c,d,e notes 😂

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

Depends on the 808 tbh - I prefer my spinz a little lower like around B, but prefer my CTM a little higher pitched

[@prodbydmaterialz]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS yep same it's b or either d#

[@Jerryleedlelee]

I have an issue where the 808 continues even if the pattern runs out. How do I stop this?

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

Go to the envelope setting and turn everything down apart from hold which you need to turn to fulll

[@j1thegod]

Y’all are sidechaining 808’s? Bro say it ain’t so😢

[@mirazi360]

I think you can make better results with peak controller

[@twentytwo5]

So u side chained ur 808 to ur kick and clipped the master, never expected to see this explained by someone

[@wildcard04]

Yeah I’ve been doing this for years, it’s just muscle memory at this point lol

[@phoneringphilip2342]

Don’t mix like that… why would you wanna have a kick like this? Do the sidechain but just turn down the kick master volume until you find the spot where it hits, but not necessarily harder the the 808.

[@Angel-qb7pq]

What can i do if i want to do that for a beat thats "finished" im trynna rap on it but noticed the 808s not hitting like they should and its from yt im new to this so anything helps

[@prod.xavgvst]

You would have to get the audio stem of the 808 only, better get another beat broski

[@Angel-qb7pq]

@@prod.xavgvst not what i wanted to hear😔

[@gush35z67]

How to do for Logic?

[@SEXEYPARFAITCOOKI4]

out of key 808s

[@randomslav4721]

0:00 saving

[@iMobinator]

why do ppl think velocity on a sample is gonna make it “hit harder” its just turning up the volume with no change lol

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

This is not the case with plugins btw. You’ll notice with some piano sounds that turning the velocity down reduces the harshness of the sounds, which is completely different to just decreasing volume

[@iMobinator]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS ur using an 808, 95% plus of people use wav samples for 808s. velocity only matters if the bass ur using in the plugin in actually changes parameters like distortion or eqing to make it hit harder.

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@iMobinator yes that’s correct, I simply tell people to increase velocity to full as that’s generally the right volume level for the mix

[@quispluto20]

Just turn the velocity up🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ Y’all be doing way to much tryna make 808s hit hard.

[@mateohuf3811]

This makes the 808 hit less hard bruh, you just hear the kick and the trail of the 808, trap producers rlly just saying anything ig

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

I added punch to the 808 by adding the kick, it’s not that hard to understand.

[@mateohuf3811]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS the 808 trails behind the kick when u sidechain bruh, the impact is weaker, how u got a whole ass prod channel and not know this shit

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@mateohuf3811 the impact is from the Kick, not the 808. That’s literally the whole point of the video

[@mateohuf3811]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS yeah but you could literally just not sidechain and stack them to make it hit harder

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@mateohuf3811 the frequencies clash and it sounds muddy if you do that

[@freddyredflag]

limiter on the 808??? Wtf r u doing bruv

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

sidechaining, like I said

[@anissteevan6676]

dude your 808 is distorting reduce the level of 808 and who is this this guy

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

That’s the whole point dude

[@tintobruh._]

808 was better with no mixing and no kick ngl lol

[@martinilinguine3130]

Don't do this. Sidechaining is an effect! Not a mixing technique!!!

[@ALostCarolean]

it's both a mixing technique and an effect

[@Kyle_almighty1]

Damn why doesn’t KZbin let us save shorts to playlists 🤦‍♂️

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

It’s annoying isn’t it! I usually just like the videos so that they save to my liked videos playlist

[@scoob1449]

Tbh if you want hard hitting 808s just slightly redline the 808 and add a fruity limiter to the master

[@populistscum]

jesus christ to anyone reading this please do not put fruity limiter on your master. please.

[@Egraxx]

​@@populistscumtbh he ain't wrong, take off the limiter for all that matters you'll still get it too hit hard if your clipping the 808

[@phoneringphilip2342]

@@populistscumnick mira did it so i will do it too

[@scoob1449]

@@populistscum why not

[@atlaspr0d]

Do not do this, use a soft clipper instead. The dynamics of your 808 will be squashed if you use fruity limiter especially is it’s redlining.

[@UrixMusic]

It's just sidechaining

[@don_huzan]

This is basics

[@devpatrick3034]

this is better for pop mixing, not hiphop

[@GodSpeed1105]

Not true. It's more popular with Edm for having a very heavy pump effect, but it doesn't mean it's limited to Edm either. It's just another option and variety.

[@RootboyFrenzyMat]

Mixing trick = sidechain At this point if u don't know sidechaining, don't even bother with the mix lol keep up the "inspiration" 😂😂

[@RootboyFrenzyMat]

Also better way, just do volume automation and reduce the volume of the 808 everytime the kick hits

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

I’m showing a mixing technique to anybody who hasn’t learned this already. Volume automation would have the exact same effect as this but would take longer, seems pointless

[@RootboyFrenzyMat]

​@@JASPERTUTORIALSit wouldnt take that much longer, i'd rather take my time doing clean side chain that messing the audios with fruity limiter. But limiter sidechain sometimes works better on sounds like synthesizer etc

[@RootboyFrenzyMat]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS still appreciate the videos and the fact u sharing knowledges tho 👍

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@RootboyFrenzyMat thanks man! I appreciate the feedback, it’s important for us to all share knowledge with each other!

[@JoshyPowerMusic]

Why am i watching this, i make edm.

[@b0ri5x83]

Or just a preset kick

[@Kotjek]

please change nick for davidjasper tips

[@Kotjek]

its really important you choose david jasper at the begenning you will thank me later for Subscribtions

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@Kotjek bruh what? My name ain’t David 😂

[@MaTTiiBeaTz]

🔊💯🥇🔊

[@purplsonbeats]

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[@hlollib123bjornsson3]

Bro this is trap not edm if southside or metro hear sidechaining in your kicks and 808s thay turning that shit off

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

This is literally how the majority of the tracks were produced on UTOPIA. Please don’t make comments like this when they are completely false

[@tresfrangos]

sidechaining your 808s only makes it hit less... you can barely hear the 808... you only hear the kick

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

Yes so you’re hearing the punchy kick drum and then the 808 after

[@tresfrangos]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS yup, and now its clipping! congrats!

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@tresfrangos that’s why you use the soft clipper! 🤣

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@tresfrangos did you watch the tutorial bro?

[@tresfrangos]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS doesnt matter, you're clipping BEFORE the clipper... thats basic mixing...

[@jeffotero5676]

👍👍

[@sxlvestertherager]

oldest trick in the books

[@TiryqThomas]

Just soft clip it

[@АлексейА-п8н]

Sounds bad, not use limiter for sidechain

[@whatsup8751]

lmao

[@steveStonehedge]

I thought everybody did this

[@anointedboyz4638]

You are clipping bro side chaining won’t help at that point 🤞🏻

[@optimisum7807]

don’t do this😅and if u do use peak control. reverse polarity should be all u need to do or maybe a little eq

[@junomadethis]

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[@JOHNDEPAPA]

or just pitchbend your 808😂

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

That's not even remotely the same thing that I just showed?

[@JOHNDEPAPA]

@@JASPERTUTORIALSYou are basically adding a kick to your 808 with it..

[@purpleobscurity1878]

But you know there is such thing as drums that hit too hard to the point where it sounds terrible so watch out for that

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

Yeah for sure, you don’t want them to be too distorted

[@vgxplaysdahood]

I WAS JUST FINISHED WITH MY TRACK UPLOADED IT TO SOUNDCLOUD WITHOUT THIS TRICK 😭

[@irobot2258]

808 always sound so corny

[@fodek3087]

sidechaining 808s is a really basic and a pretty bad technique

[@PlatinumEagleStudios]

That still sounds distorted as hell. The finished product I could still hear it clipping like crazy. Any way you can remove that harsh bit at the end of the 808?

[@ISHI6I]

😂

[@godforreal7355]

Congratulations! It sounds like every other fl producer on KZbin! Now you're perfectly unoriginal!

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

L

[@godforreal7355]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS I have an idea, how about you make a beat, wait for it... _without_ an accent snare!

[@JASPERTUTORIALS]

@@godforreal7355 I’ve got plenty of them listed on BeatStars

[@godforreal7355]

@@JASPERTUTORIALS alright, alright, touché.

[@oneperson8944]

basic

[@LediMusica]

Total bs, you should almost never sidechain your808 and kick, it just loses the punch.. stop listening to dumb advices and people telling you to sidechain that

[@shimmernox]

wow that just sounds terrible

[@josephpimentel8314]

Sounds like boring cliche trap music