How To Master All 8 Vanguard In Marvel Rivals | Tank Tips & Tricks

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@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Which Vanguard are you queing up as? Let us know your favorite in the comments below!
@bdb9457
@bdb9457 Ай бұрын
Groot
@permianproductions90
@permianproductions90 Ай бұрын
Venom. You got to do these videos for all the dps characters. I must know how some characters work
@jhNUUP52
@jhNUUP52 Ай бұрын
I think with so many people disagreeing with ur takes is a good thing. I've heard a lot of diff teir list and ppl talk about the roster. The options are diff everytime. Leading me think outside top 500, just get good with who u want and u will do great regardless. It's actually fairly balanced. If u buffed the bottom 3 heros and nerfed the top 3 the rest kinda even out.
@trevorprior7
@trevorprior7 Ай бұрын
Thor 🌩
@happilyunhappysmile9015
@happilyunhappysmile9015 Ай бұрын
Warning:long rant I main magneto and in my eyes hes not as bad as you say he is. For starters, the only tank you can solo tank in the game when your going against a good team is dr. Strange. Even though magneto is similar to dr strange, he idoes not play the same role entirely as him. Magneto plays a role that is best in a 2 tank comp. This is because he is the most versatile tank in terms of being back line and Frontline. He has great abilities for helping him and his teammates take damage, which allows him to be able to do a pushes with his team like dr strange. The only downside to his kit is he has no run away button like strange when he flys into the air. For this reason he might not feel impactful, but in almost every game a play as him, i get the most damge received even if he strange is on my team. For a 2 tank comp i believe magneto to be the best tank to pick. This is bc he can pair up well with any other type of tank. For example with hulk or venom who are dive tanks, he is able to give then a shield for when they dive and then oush up with them to objective with his shield. For back line tanks like penny, you can play Frontline and help with backline especially when playing defense against payload. With strange and groot who like to play more frontline he pairs well as he can protect back if he needs to and help push front if they get low or need help because of high dps on the other team. Their are only two times i see him as bad. When your team autolockes duelist so you need to pick strange, and in lower lobbys where your team can be horrendous and you won't be able to get value bc your abilities are more likely to get wasted. These problems are all bad on other tanks with the only exceptions being strange for sure and thor a little bit.
@X_754Leafeon
@X_754Leafeon 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for that insight. I'm trying to learn how to play magneto because I am super laggy and when I lag, I don't want to be dead while helping my team. I usually play as Jeff the land shark but everytime I play as him, everyone plays as dualists so I'm always a mile away from my team so I am basically useless. And when I lag out, that gives time for everyone on the opposing team to rush the only healer and tank, killing us in seconds. I wish people understood 2-2-2 team match ups. Thanks again for the insight, if you read my whole ramble, good job, you have patience and can take criticism.
@kimchyi9161
@kimchyi9161 17 күн бұрын
Plis i like whqt you say but SEPARATE IN PRAGRAPHS CAUSE THIS HURTS MY EYES.
@alexmehner8224
@alexmehner8224 2 күн бұрын
His ranged attacks also have a "sweet Spot" that he didn't mention, when you learn where the air burst goes off you become a great counter to flying characters. he can lay great splash damage if used in a choke point, and the space his shield takes over allows for some amazing 1-way damage pushes. obviously strange is bigger but the no damage cap can save teammates from some huge ults.
@liammcdevitt6917
@liammcdevitt6917 Ай бұрын
One tip i have for Cap. If youre a Destiny 2 fan, play him like youre on titan's sentinel shield. I felt he was clunky at first but as soon as i heard someone say treat him like Void titan, it just clicked
@TheDirtRacerYT
@TheDirtRacerYT Ай бұрын
can we get a translation for non destiny players
@liammcdevitt6917
@liammcdevitt6917 Ай бұрын
@TheDirtRacerYT I like to approach with at least one other ally while guarding. Let them shoot the shield for a bit and as soon as they stop, immediately start attacking. Through in some jumps while you approach to play some mind games. If you really want to copy D2, do 2 neutral attacks, lunge then throw a shield
@hernanzarazua6406
@hernanzarazua6406 Ай бұрын
@@TheDirtRacerYTthen this comment isn’t for you sorry bub
@bkelso61
@bkelso61 Ай бұрын
​@TheDirtRacerYT I guess a more mobile Rein? Idk. I played Destiny so the initial comment makes sense to me
@littleoldmanboy
@littleoldmanboy Ай бұрын
@@TheDirtRacerYThe is a dive tank, imo works best when you have at least 1 other tank on your team. The strat with cap is go to the settings and change the sprint to toggle instead of hold and simply sprint around constantly. Jump into the backline and bully the supports then sprint away. Save your movement abilities, like the dash and the jumping slam, to get away, they’re often better used for mobility rather than damage. Just run around and be a bully, it’s very easy to have very low death games with Cap.
@heyitsthatoneguy4192
@heyitsthatoneguy4192 Ай бұрын
As a Peni main, You can also extend the Spider nest range with your webs. This CAN help you peak around corners better. Try this out in the Practice Range. Hope this tip helps
@hiro120
@hiro120 Ай бұрын
The other thing that I found out while playing Thor, my main vanguard, is if you hit an enemy with the melee bash while your hammer glows blue, you get a full reset on your ThorForce. Which is key to using the flying charge attack. Fly in, swing to recharge the used force. Also, getting a last hit snipe with the hammer throw is such an amazing feeling lol
@thatguy7411
@thatguy7411 Ай бұрын
That snipe feeling is so good, when they try to run but it's no use. Also melting through a squishy character with the hammer throw in melee is a great feeling.
@khele2k
@khele2k 28 күн бұрын
Thor's awesome and I think this video is a little premature. It has decent tips, but definitely watch a good advanced guide for any hero on this list. He kind of blew it with his Thor assessment. He's a great offensive presence in the frontline. He can swing in, drop his lightning and attack with his Rune. He also gets 100HP for every thorforce he consumes up to 200HP. Swinging is a great option to close distances, move enemies out, etc
@DarkForceEight
@DarkForceEight 4 күн бұрын
No mention of forcing opponents off objectives, either. I second advice of finding other videos to learn specific characters from.
@headlesshiidra
@headlesshiidra Ай бұрын
Saying magneto is the worst tank is wild considering hulk is right there lmao. Either you dont fw his kit or just cant play him thats fine but you failed to realize his strength is his staying power. The one thing you got right though is that melee characters are a threat to him. In the scenario that a melee character gets close you should right click with full stacks to push them back from you, disengaging them unless they want to keep pushing into your whole team. Hope this helps a vit when you have to prove to randos online that you know what youre doing on magneto lol
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
I said he's one of the worst vanguard in the game. You're absolutely right, Hulk is right there with him, but there in lies exactly what we're talking about. They're both considered weaker if you compare the entire vanguard lineup. To be clear, no hero is outright bad in the right hands...probably should have lead with that
@codybeck371
@codybeck371 Ай бұрын
Except everyone else considers mag one of the best tanks
@Samurai-yasuke
@Samurai-yasuke Ай бұрын
False. ​@@codybeck371
@khele2k
@khele2k Ай бұрын
@@codybeck371 Magneto is great on a good team. He's a lot harder to play in Bronze silver and Gold, which is half the player base, because there's no coordination and you often get left out on your own. He's great peeling for his strategists and weaving back and forth between the frontline and the backline. You MUST hit your shots though with Magneto. Pop your bubble, hit your primary and your cannon to take out most melee heroes. Play him with a Doctor Strange and a Luna Snow and you'll win A LOT of games. He does have one very hard counter and that's Thor. Thor's rune damage eats Magneto alive.
@codybeck371
@codybeck371 Ай бұрын
@@khele2k ik all of that... it's still incorrect to say that mag is one of the worst tanks bc he just straight up isnt
@GodWorksOut
@GodWorksOut Ай бұрын
When you have a second vanguard and you are both working together, all of the vanguards are fantastic. I play all of them when I’m with my friend who also plays vanguard and we do really well coordinating together.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
THIS. Man I really wish I had made this point because this is such a true statement about the dynamic between two vanguard that are just clicking. Great comment!
@paulsandoval8914
@paulsandoval8914 Ай бұрын
Can I ask what some of your favorite pairs are? I’m loving playing Thor, and I looooooove when I have a Venom or Captain America with me.
@GodWorksOut
@GodWorksOut Ай бұрын
@@paulsandoval8914 all of them are good together. Try playing your Thor with a Dr. Stange or Magneto. Here’s the trick don’t get too greedy, stay with your partner and push the objective or capture.
@GIRTHQUAKE95
@GIRTHQUAKE95 Ай бұрын
Duoing vanguards with your friend sounds awesome
@mrkyurem5499
@mrkyurem5499 Ай бұрын
Okay, some people are saying your takes where bad when you reached Magneto, but it truly clicked for me when you talked about Thor. I *just* watched a top 500 Thor player explaining the character properly and it's pretty much nothing like you described Thor. His thor force recharges on melee hit after his RMB and his shift ability, so he *can* be mobile as hell, and using his 3-charges ability actually leaves you way more vulnerable precisely because you limit your own mobility and versatility in exchange for extended range.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
You have to understand that most players are never going to reach a top 500 status. We're not bringing that level of analysis to this type of video. That being said I'm confident we have a firm grasp of these characters and definitely stand by my Thor take as it's one of the vanguard play the most. It might not be a top 500 level of detail or nuance, but it's going to serve most casual players well.
@jonathansuarez3832
@jonathansuarez3832 Ай бұрын
@@mrkyurem5499 Thor is extremely mobile once you master his rotation
@SnakePlissken702
@SnakePlissken702 Ай бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS But you made a video about mastering.... Wouldn't that mean telling people how to play the character to its maximum capability?
@MakishimaKiyouu
@MakishimaKiyouu Ай бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS What top level nuance. It's literally kindergarten level mechanic. You dash in, you bonk someone when hammer glows blue, you dash again. WOW SO COMPLICATED AND HARD
@Jethro0815
@Jethro0815 Ай бұрын
Funny how many of those tips & tricks are the most general knowledge and applicable to every character in every PvP game ever.
@megancao5988
@megancao5988 Ай бұрын
Lol
@LFanimes333
@LFanimes333 Ай бұрын
“Magneto is bad” LMAAAAOOOOO
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
I didn't say he was bad. I said he's one of the worst vanguard in the game. Comparatively that's true, he's on the weaker end of the spectrum. You can disagree, that's fine
@LFanimes333
@LFanimes333 Ай бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS He’s very easily AT LEAST the third best tank in the game, just after Strange and possibly even tied with Groot for second.
@LFanimes333
@LFanimes333 Ай бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS Also, calling Venom OP is just funny.
@TheButcherGorr
@TheButcherGorr Ай бұрын
@@LFanimes333lol exactly
@TheButcherGorr
@TheButcherGorr Ай бұрын
@@LFanimes333 he doesn’t play pvp so it’s all good
@pacifixz
@pacifixz 8 күн бұрын
basically venom: 1. be annoying 2. br annoying 3. be annoying
@nathanielrosario4294
@nathanielrosario4294 Ай бұрын
Pro tip for hulk you can hold the jump button and it will charge up in the background as you use your abilities
@theploopz
@theploopz Ай бұрын
There’s also a setting to where you can change it to a press to charge for those who don’t want to constantly hold jump
@NevanSlone
@NevanSlone Ай бұрын
@@theploopzThat setting is what I use. I kind of wish it was an ability button since you can’t basic Jump with that turned on.
@RileyN6.21
@RileyN6.21 17 күн бұрын
@ 15:36 - 15:40 when in melee, use Groot's Furious Flora. The knock-up on the 3rd strike is nice, it gives you just enough time and knocks them just far enough back for Groot to then put up a wall between the 2 players. Due to his limited mobility, this makes for a great start to an admittedly slow getaway.
@bogusnixx9773
@bogusnixx9773 16 күн бұрын
I hate Marvel Rivals but I'm being forced to play it so i figured instead of only playing starlord(the only hero i seem to be any good with) I may as well learn how to play other classes which is a bit of a slog for me, so i really appreciate this video.
@Claire_Ballard
@Claire_Ballard Ай бұрын
Magneto is seriously the #2 Tank in the game. Its nonsense to think otherwise
@jamesford2192
@jamesford2192 Ай бұрын
What’s #1?
@Claire_Ballard
@Claire_Ballard Ай бұрын
@jamesford2192 strange
@S34Mii
@S34Mii Ай бұрын
Tank main here. Captain America is my boy but I like to play a few different ones. We be cooking and disrupting over here.
@AvariciousOne82
@AvariciousOne82 Ай бұрын
Taking into consideration what you're saying by each vanguard by themselves alone then i mostly agree with your assessments and you're definitely right on about the kits. I think where everyone is having such a negative response is putting them into a competent team setting (which was stated) then that is where the "he's OP or weakest" kind of goes off rails for some. All in all this video definitely validated much of what i was feeling and now I know what i was doing wrong with Thor. Keep em coming.
@andrewcortes5574
@andrewcortes5574 20 күн бұрын
First ten seconds in and I already feel like understood. Usually, all I am to my team is ult charge T_T
@jeast9648
@jeast9648 Ай бұрын
As venom, ive noticed that instead of trying to hit enemies with your left click when they are close to you, just melee. It does crazy damage and its much easier to hit. And as Hulk i find, holding the jump button down at all times helps a lot as well. That way, you always have your incredible leap ready to go. Also incredible leap can pull flyers out of the air and ground them long enough to get your stun off and kill them.
@jonfall7941
@jonfall7941 Ай бұрын
I've used that venom tip myself. I play on controller so I changed his melee button. I swapped his bonus health ability to the right stick and his melee to R1. This feels better when I have to aim around while melee attacking with him
@banan9377
@banan9377 12 күн бұрын
It's only a month but it already hasn't aged well.
@A9J1
@A9J1 Ай бұрын
Magneto is def on the higher end of vanguards.
@scurrdi6582
@scurrdi6582 21 күн бұрын
I would have liked to hear you talk more about Groot’s ultimate and how it pairs so well when timed with DPS, as well as highlighting the extra damage you can do with the walls when down. He’s my main when not playing Penny and when I realized how using the walls to not only trap a player but extra double dps made it a game changer for me, plus the ult can combo amazingly with like Jeff or any AoE based ult from a dps.
@alangalantin8614
@alangalantin8614 21 күн бұрын
"Magneto is bad" My friend, respectfully, i believe you didn't get how the heroe works. Easily in the top 3 vanguard, much better than Venom or Captain.
@1Korand
@1Korand Ай бұрын
Pro tip with thor: Throw, bash, awaken → target squishy, lightning realm , Surge, bash, Awaken, lighting realm and repeat. dont use lightning realm if there are no enemies to hit close by. you only really waste a thor Force if you use one without landing a bash after. as a rule of thumb try to keep at least two charged at all times ( 🔨🔨❌ like this) if you surge then bash an enemy you'll get it back and regen of the third will give you awakening again. the idea is to be in awakening as much as possible during fights since you get higher dmg out and bonus shield. I seems like video Creator doesn't like thor very much (he put him last and didn't have much good to say about him.) And thats understandable, Thor's mobility isn't as bad as he kind of portrays it to be. Thor can get in and out of fights quickly with surge, its about knowing when to fall back and keeping track of your healers at all times. If your healers die as thor, you die.
@leonardovelasco5625
@leonardovelasco5625 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this! Really makes me rethink how I play Cap! He's my main, and I love his kit (and character in general). But now, I'm more effective as a Cap player
@daddydslinger1651
@daddydslinger1651 Ай бұрын
I dislike that vanguard can be summed up with the fraze "you'll be fine if you have a competent team" 😂
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Nah, not true. Some Vanguards are just better with the right supporting cast, while others will perform better solo or with a less-great team.
@TappedWalnut
@TappedWalnut Ай бұрын
WARNING: Way too long comment. Well personally I think you just didn't give Magneto enough credit. Surprise, I know, but let me at least give my opinion unlike other's. His shield is phenomenal in my eyes. 3 seconds of indestructible shield when fully charged. Takes like 10 seconds to charge fully, so you are getting a 3 second shield like every 12 seconds. Add a 300hp bubble in that same time-frame, he can get to where he wants to be if you really feel inclined to. Just like with Strange, you can walk through chokes with your shield. It's on a 3 second cool-down so you can even play somewhat reactionary. Block a strong single burst ability/ult, you only need 1 second of indestructible shield to do that. The bubbles are amazing for supporting flankers, like that's just gonna always be a boon IMHO. When pressured he can bubble himself and the knock-back is nice to kite melee attackers with. He isn't a complete sitting duck when dove. He has less pressure that isn't really wrong. He likes his natural cover. But I wouldn't say he's the worst Vanguard because he is of the poke variety. He's a variety of Dr. Strange in my eyes and that's not a bad thing to be. He's just not the most exciting Vanguard to play, Dr. Strange has the better ult and fun with portals. Solid Vanguard all around and I feel there are Vanguards with way bigger niches that make it weird to me to call him the worst of the bunch.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Walnut, genuinely appreciate you providing a genuinely interesting comment. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts!
@Corith_70
@Corith_70 Ай бұрын
Also worth noting with groot, he has a 3 hit melee combo that can knock the enemy up on the 3rd hit. If you get rumbly and throw fisty cuffs with groot, if you use the vine attack and immediately hit the melee, it will cancel the animation and you can fit an extra attack inbetween the vine pokes. That in combination with the wall attacks groot is a menace in 1v1s with other tanks and dps
@roosterchains
@roosterchains Ай бұрын
Thor tip, if you primary than throw hammer at same time it will animation cancel and you get a big hit. Follow up with 1 more primary and you are still full hammer to than cleanup target.
@taylorgarrett793
@taylorgarrett793 Ай бұрын
some tips for groot is that he can cast two of the small walls at once if ya hold down the shift key and then aim where ya want them his melle attack also does a small knock up on the 3 hit of the combo as well also kinda surprised groot cant regen health in any way as he quite litterally nearly killed him self to protect the guardians of the galaxy in their movie yet he was able to regenerate him self that and his a walking plant, and plants can regrow them selves etc
@MrBradly93
@MrBradly93 Ай бұрын
Are you gonna do this same format for the other two classes?
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
That’s the plan! Strategist in the works now
@CornbreadEarll
@CornbreadEarll Ай бұрын
Absolutely awful take saying Magneto is bad.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
No hero is bad in a vacuum. I think you're smart enough to figure that out, but when you compare Magneto to the other vanguard he falls behind.
@CornbreadEarll
@CornbreadEarll Ай бұрын
@LegacyGamingUS no he doesn't, you are wrong and need to re evaluate. And don't insult my intelligence, I think you're smart enough to figure out that any issue you have with magneto is a skill issue on your part, he has been top tier since the first play test and although he has been nerfed, he remains phenomenal
@EmperorAkintoba
@EmperorAkintoba Ай бұрын
@@CornbreadEarllHe didn’t insult your intelligence. Don’t be insecure over a disagreement Great you think magneto good, others are allowed to think otherwise
@CornbreadEarll
@CornbreadEarll Ай бұрын
@KingAkintoba saying "I think your smart enough" is a underhanded insult. Mind your business he is a grown man and can defend himself.
@Zinriusminazen
@Zinriusminazen Ай бұрын
@@CornbreadEarll Are you ok? Do you need a hug? It's ok that people have opinions that don't line up with yours. It's ok that you like magneto and that he doesn't like him as much. It's ok.
@hazeflawless5481
@hazeflawless5481 Ай бұрын
Wow. I really am not kidding when i say i think your take on every tank was wrong. This is incredible lol. winrates and common sense show opposite of everything you are saying
@TranqBase
@TranqBase Ай бұрын
Thor is my main but I played with a full squad of friends the other day and nobody wanted to heal and I got lasered consistently. I think his electric field cooldown could be shortened by like another second to improve his survivability and make him a more popular Vanguard. He's pretty good already for sure, but there's no reason why he shouldn't be as tanky as Venom especially when he has half the mobility.
@S_Co711
@S_Co711 Ай бұрын
Can’t say I agree with everything, but enjoyed the video nonetheless. Just a note though, you mentioned Strange doesn’t have as much health as other tanks, but some of those higher health characters are getting a boost currently due to the seasonal bonus.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, and appreciate the extra context, great point!
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 5 күн бұрын
Update this and give Max he respect Sir😂
@-8h-
@-8h- Ай бұрын
This is just the video we needed for our 1 strategist and 5 duelist team comps.
@majorastorm
@majorastorm 26 күн бұрын
Dude Thor with a Healer is a game changer. His Thor force gives him the much added DPS plus being a tank is almost over powered
@AHeroAlmost
@AHeroAlmost Ай бұрын
Barely anyone plays tank in ranked … I try and do the job but it’s tough on your own 🙃
@lemming2570
@lemming2570 28 күн бұрын
“Magneto bad” is a hilariously horrendous take. All the tanks are really good but even relative to just tanks I’d argue magneto is top 4, and I’ve put a decent amount of time into all of them now. Mag shuts down so much offense while having solid poke and cc
@Zinriusminazen
@Zinriusminazen Ай бұрын
Personally love the Hulk Very good at distracting people as he jumps around the battle field punching people. The distraction itself is enough to keep the team safe long enough for them to cause damage.
@erickmalm9458
@erickmalm9458 Ай бұрын
I hate him on my team . 9 times out of 10 my hulks just dive into instant death lol
@Zinriusminazen
@Zinriusminazen Ай бұрын
@@erickmalm9458 I'm with you man. That's why I rather be the hulk.
@LFanimes333
@LFanimes333 Ай бұрын
Hulk isn’t even just the worst tank. He’s easily the worst character in the entire game and by far.
@derekstordahl4515
@derekstordahl4515 Ай бұрын
The trick is to charge the jump while attacking so you can get out of the enemy team swarm super quick
@Zinriusminazen
@Zinriusminazen Ай бұрын
@@LFanimes333 I would not mind a buff. Maybe extend the life of his barrier and a DPS buff.
@foxshadow11
@foxshadow11 Ай бұрын
Would love to see you do the full roster
@CandyR3sh
@CandyR3sh 27 күн бұрын
Thanks bro great guide !
@backwoodbb729
@backwoodbb729 28 күн бұрын
Peni on attack is easy I love it you just toss your mines further and keep moving her nest then keep weeding people poop her ult to clean up a team fight or push a new fight off the payload
@codysorenson4298
@codysorenson4298 Ай бұрын
Peni is the best tank in the game in my opinion. The key is to keep your webs on the ground so you can gain health and knowing when to push up. No reloading and you can shoot the mines like grenades. She has good synergy with flyers.
@GutoGerbase
@GutoGerbase Ай бұрын
Excellent tips and tricks! Thanks for sharing this, mate. Venom is my favourite character, so it pretty much aligns with what you said
@benwood8524
@benwood8524 Ай бұрын
When Groot is close to the walls they become active with secondary effects. The thorn ones attack enemies and the iron one--what do you know, it heals him if you cause damage to enemies when close to it. Indeed, it heals you if your allies cause damage close to it. Rather than using the wall to try and block incoming fire, I put the iron one at the side. Now enemies have to choose to either attack the wall to stop my healing while also exposed to allied fire, or try and fight through loads of extra healing (which gives him blue health up to around 1100). People who don't know this about Groot will simply ignore what they see as "misplaced" walls, and then wonder why you haven't taken any damage.
@mrray477
@mrray477 5 күн бұрын
I've been loving Thor, with a decent healer I just feel invincible
@KennyJordana
@KennyJordana Ай бұрын
This game is 🔥 Also, congratulations Legacy Gaming for gaining over 400k subs. I remember when your channel only had 70k subs. Keep up the great work 👊🏿
@n8maxima
@n8maxima Ай бұрын
You didnt explain Thor very well. You can dash in and then have a few seconds to melee someone to get the thorforce back instantly and that is the key to him. I still think he is weaker then others but he can be good if paired with a more main tank and you can be a disruptor kind of like cap imo
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
I personally disagree that this is a sound strategy. Using Thorforce as an initiation is a waste of Thorforce. The goal should be to get into the fray and immediately use your most disruptive mechanics, not sit around swinging your hammer for 2 seconds before you can do anything. This is the fundamental misunderstanding of Thor is that he should be flying into combat. However, I absolutely agree he's an awesome 2nd disruptor with a proper defense-first tank.
@n8maxima
@n8maxima Ай бұрын
@LegacyGamingUS you get the thorforce back during the 2 seconds your skills are on cd with 1 melee hit, and have a 100hp shield from casting it! Don't be a drain on healers and run in, please! Thor is not the best already and telling people to play him in a insufficient way will make him seem even worse! After every cast the next melee hit restores a thorforce AND you get 100hp shield! Plus e will restore all thorforce if you got in to melee and hit people, also e not on the 2 second cd so you have time to cast it. It's not an opinion, it's statically and factually a better way to play him, just trying to help.
@Claire_Ballard
@Claire_Ballard Ай бұрын
​@@n8maximawell said
@romarikanu
@romarikanu Ай бұрын
Yikes I was enjoying the video until we got to Magneto. Lol….
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
If you line up the vanguards Magneto is one of the weaker ones. You can disagree, that's fine, but you won't find most people taking him over some of the other options. No hero is a bad in a vacuum, maybe I should have made that more clear.
@happyhoppip9159
@happyhoppip9159 Ай бұрын
Literally same. Magneto is definitely not one of the weaker tanks. In higher elo he is definitely up there fighting for best tank with strange.
@juveintheusa6261
@juveintheusa6261 Ай бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUSin high rank I feel like it’s him and strange every game lol
@nthnthms1212
@nthnthms1212 18 күн бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS I know i have replied to some of your comments in this video already but man you evaluation is so wrong.
@bichonnation9494
@bichonnation9494 17 күн бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUSbrother nobody agrees with this take stop insisting you’re right 😭
@schwifty6401
@schwifty6401 16 күн бұрын
how is venom good and magneto bad?
@KomaaGod28
@KomaaGod28 Ай бұрын
I get terrible heals most of the time with Randoms but sometimes I get a support who helps me carry as cap
@justaname7329
@justaname7329 Ай бұрын
For Groot, his Ironwood wall heals him if you stay near it
@3rdegree13
@3rdegree13 Ай бұрын
Magneto
@Vugen18
@Vugen18 23 күн бұрын
Tanking is fun! Not sure why everyone says tanking isnt fun? sure u absorb dmg but also create space and set up the teamfight etc
@jeast9648
@jeast9648 Ай бұрын
You're wrong about doctor stranges damage. He does more damage than most tanks if you can hit your shots then you can finish them off with the dark magic explosion. I recommend trying it in the target range, and you'll see what i mean. He is probably the best tank right now.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
I say as much. If you’re hella accurate and have a good team he’s a great pick. Not my personal favorite, but solid
@ateddybear1392
@ateddybear1392 Ай бұрын
If you played Sigma/Zarya in OW you’ll like Magneto lol. For me, he’s been a near auto win to play.
@Jcdubdub
@Jcdubdub Ай бұрын
Peni is my favorite. I once went 64 and 6 and that never happens for me. You can get healing from using the stun web on the ground and standing in it too.
@Gio-xh3sk
@Gio-xh3sk Ай бұрын
Peni is op
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Peni is the absolute GOAT. I'm also a huge Peni fan
@StankeyWang
@StankeyWang 10 күн бұрын
As a venom main, I went against a good team of penni, mantis, hulk, luna and squirrel girl that would combo CC everytime i dove and would gank before i could even move a foot away lmao. That was peak venom counter
@Wukong330
@Wukong330 Ай бұрын
I love venom but im not amazing with him yet. that being said, i absolutely hate the teams that just focus tanks while the healers are just constantly healing him. Cant tell you how many times I try to peel the healers off the tank only to get 1v5'ed while the single tank wipes my entire team. pretty frustrating in randoms currently
@Andyconda14
@Andyconda14 Ай бұрын
Iv put a lot of hours into Thor with that being said I rarely use awakening rune anymore it uses all the Thor force and leaves you a sitting duck 🦆 storm surge is his bread and butter it gives bonus health and I use it to push heroes off of my squishes in the back AND I use it to push heroes off the map lol its his best move
@JahGotWings
@JahGotWings Ай бұрын
Thor force leaves you open if you don’t know how to play him, which you basically just openly admitted
@Andyconda14
@Andyconda14 Ай бұрын
@ I’m having trouble understanding what you’re trying to say
@JahGotWings
@JahGotWings Ай бұрын
@@Andyconda14 its okay , nothing important
@Andyconda14
@Andyconda14 Ай бұрын
@ you have a great day sir
@478Johnnyboy
@478Johnnyboy Ай бұрын
PSA to Venom players just because he has a shield and powerful. That does not mean fight a team 6v1 and die then be ready to blame your healers. It was your fault not them.
@justinleahdixon
@justinleahdixon Ай бұрын
I beg the differ. My main in overwatch, was a tank (sigma).. 90% of the time I’m mvp. Sooooo. 😁.. highest kill, hero damage etc..
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Sounds like you're well above the average player ;) How do I get you on my team!
@justinleahdixon
@justinleahdixon Ай бұрын
@ let’s goo!!.. I’m down. I haven’t played in a minute,. But that’s not an issue for me!. If you’re serious, I’ll come out of retirement 😎..
@hayashiii2717
@hayashiii2717 Ай бұрын
i feel like most of the other tanks works better as offtanks / 2nd tanks. The worst part about playing tank is your healers become your crutch. I'd rather heal the team myself at that point
@hayashiii2717
@hayashiii2717 Ай бұрын
Absolutely love Thor and Cap's gameplay, wanted to like Hulk but he's kind of tough to play with if your team's kind of poopoo
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Hulk needs some work. Something about his kit feels off, but I agree Cap + Thor is fun as hell
@DJG333
@DJG333 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@grimm_tnt_1509
@grimm_tnt_1509 Ай бұрын
I get mvp all the time playing tank 💀
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
That's awesome man. Thanks should get it more!
@ExWitDaFacts
@ExWitDaFacts Ай бұрын
Saying Venom is op and then saying you need a competent Strat is kind counterintuitive don’t ya think? OP is meant for characters that don’t need any help for most occasions.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
He can be an overpowered character in the wrong hands though. That's what I'm getting at. I've seen plenty of bad Venom players just dive bomb and not know what to do. That doesn't make the character itself less op, just not being played correctly
@TheButcherGorr
@TheButcherGorr Ай бұрын
Venom gets absolutely shut down by a good Luna / Mantis
@ExWitDaFacts
@ExWitDaFacts Ай бұрын
@@TheButcherGorr and hooked by Winter Soldier. Like there’s a good amount of crowd control
@curupa66
@curupa66 Ай бұрын
Another video reading the abilities out loud
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
lol what are you talking about, I’m using the name of the abilities so people know what I’m talking about. Pay attention
@khele2k
@khele2k Ай бұрын
​@@LegacyGamingUS This is a great video and well broken down with zero fluff, one of the best I've watched and I've watched A LOT this past week. You're engaged which is awesome. But remember, people can say whatever they want on the internet and some people are dumb, especially gamers who play games more than they learn. Hell, you're the one with the skill set, video editing, just keep up the good work and be patient with the dumbasses.
@takurz9154
@takurz9154 Ай бұрын
So I have to call it out here. Living legend is not a save your self move. The ult buffs you and any one in your radius. It is a move you should be using during Tema fights when your team is closish to you. 😊
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Living Legend is just your shield move. Cap's ulti is Freedom Charge
@manslaughter305
@manslaughter305 Ай бұрын
this channel should be way bigger. you guys are too smooth
@mtrichie111
@mtrichie111 Ай бұрын
Thank you kodiac
@moltenpanther3736
@moltenpanther3736 Ай бұрын
I AM GROOT!
@anthonylai5719
@anthonylai5719 Ай бұрын
Dont forget to go in solo get murdered then spam i need healing cause its everyone else's fault the i went in and no ones near me so i expect heals cause im the best vanguard
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
LOL
@sanderbregman9444
@sanderbregman9444 Ай бұрын
Man, your videos are solid, but it sucks to see how unreceptive you are to feedback. If you say Magneto is the worst tank and over half the comments on this video are people disagreeing with you, there's no shame to respond in the comments saying something like, "Maybe I'm missing something about him, I'll give him another shot and see if my opinion changes."
@nthnthms1212
@nthnthms1212 18 күн бұрын
LOL its no surprise how wrong the tank evaluations are at the opening of the game.
@icereinthegamer3265
@icereinthegamer3265 Ай бұрын
Is this a old video? Cause Venom definitely nerfed and doesnt get that much life back
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Not sure what you're talking about. There haven't been any character changes since launch
@icereinthegamer3265
@icereinthegamer3265 Ай бұрын
​@@LegacyGamingUSwas talking his shield you said he gets a full second health bar that was nerfed from beta he's definitely getting less health now dies faster but he still is THE DIVE TANK
@Shebby1987
@Shebby1987 20 күн бұрын
"That's the main issue with Dr. Strange. He is incredible team dependant" - Oh boy he is so right here. I really felt that :'(
@clayk4753
@clayk4753 Ай бұрын
This video exposed how little you know about tanking lol, especially Thor.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Not having any issue climbing the ladder, but you can believe whatever you want.
@nthnthms1212
@nthnthms1212 18 күн бұрын
dude, just listen to him talking about magneto. Literally saying he is the worst vanguard when he is number 2.
@tokyozombe
@tokyozombe Ай бұрын
After cycling through marvel rival channels and finding misinformation or just not informative enough this channel is exactly the character information I was looking for.
@APEXIII
@APEXIII 25 күн бұрын
All I’ve seen in the comments is people posting about how you are having bad takes on Characters, then you reply with “well that’s at high rank, we’re talking about average players” line. Your video is called how to master. Not Tanks for Dummies. Either take the criticism or just don’t comment back man.. you’re making yourself look bad.
@jaegar9148
@jaegar9148 Ай бұрын
Thor have low mobility ??? He can dash every 2 seconds
@kingabomination
@kingabomination Ай бұрын
ranged attacker my ass. i get all up in peoples shit with magneto. that's how you get the value from his big burst attack. you do need a good healer though.
@TheButcherGorr
@TheButcherGorr Ай бұрын
This video was a big miss
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Anxiously waiting for your video that will be a "big hit"
@TheButcherGorr
@TheButcherGorr Ай бұрын
@ not sure why your panties are all bunched up. You aren’t a pvp guy - and it shows. No sweat
@christhechilled
@christhechilled 27 күн бұрын
Personally, i think Captain America is the third worse Vanguard 😂
@specimenlarry6068
@specimenlarry6068 Ай бұрын
Hulk should have damage. He’s the HULK!
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Something about his kit is off, I agree
@Monkeyman-qt1sm
@Monkeyman-qt1sm Ай бұрын
This is an ign level video right here..
@PositivelySunshine
@PositivelySunshine 24 күн бұрын
I started hitting subscribe after he talked about Hulk and Venom, and had unsubscribed by the time he talked about Dr. Strange and Magneto
@kevinbrauer5087
@kevinbrauer5087 Ай бұрын
Some love for Thor Button ❤
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Thor is the underappreciated goat of damage/defense
@amorak223
@amorak223 19 күн бұрын
so you're just not gonna talk about ults?
@Lion_of_Sparta
@Lion_of_Sparta Ай бұрын
Magneto bad??🤣🤣
@KingOfTheDungle
@KingOfTheDungle 16 күн бұрын
I'm MVP frequently.
@j0dtism
@j0dtism 22 күн бұрын
this intro made no sense, im mvp almost every game in marvel rivals. Probably the best hero shooter ever to play tank in
@frnvito
@frnvito Ай бұрын
Thor is hands down the best tank and it aint even close.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Another Thor fan I see. We are few, but mighty!
@187mako1977
@187mako1977 Ай бұрын
Your Thor tips are bad. You don't mention that after his hammer throw or charge his basic restores a full Thor force as long as you hit within 5 seconds. So if you charge in and then hit you have 3 Thor force, you can then awaken and when that's over hit lightning realm to recover Thor force. You can also animation cancel his basic with his hammer throw and get 2 hits almost instantly. You can also charge hit 3 times charge or hammer throw for massive damage and displacement.
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
Some very nuanced tips, but good ones. I will counter that most casual players will never be able to grasp this level of detail in a game like this. What you're talking about is min/maxing the character which is something only a fraction of players will ever be able to master.
@187mako1977
@187mako1977 Ай бұрын
@@LegacyGamingUS No I'm talking about a basic understanding of the hero. You can't make a "guide" and skip over a primary and important function like he restores Thor force if you basic after the charge or hammer throw. You think that's too complex to understand for normal players? This isn't min/maxing at all. The title is also how to master the heroes and yet you don't even cover the basics. C'mon now
@Claire_Ballard
@Claire_Ballard Ай бұрын
​@@LegacyGamingUS Thier talking about the fundamental use of abilities and playstyle with the character. Not getting 4% more damage in a combo. Lol
@mlad5274
@mlad5274 Ай бұрын
Says Magnetto is worst tank in the game. Welp now I instantly know this channel has nothing to offer. 🙃
@LegacyGamingUS
@LegacyGamingUS Ай бұрын
So dramatic. They’re all good in a vacuum, but comparatively he’s in the mid-bot and I’m not at all wavering in that position
@keifer7
@keifer7 23 күн бұрын
cheers
@lucasabratti598
@lucasabratti598 Ай бұрын
What a bad video, and reading the comments I can see he wont take other people's opinions, a video about "mastering vanguards" where you refuse to take criticism from people who actually mastered the heros is a bit weird, clearly this video was made quickly just for the views...
@FergTurguson
@FergTurguson Ай бұрын
general mastery is 10,000 hours of time put into said skill..no one is a master of anything at this game...lol
@denigster
@denigster Ай бұрын
i am groot !
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