How to Mount a Red Dot on M&P® M2.0™ Pistols

[@FURFEELINGS_3]

I genuinely like this guy and his explanation!!

[@dadadadada4974]

PSA ⚠️ After removing factory installed cover, clean the threads of the holes on the slide completely before installing any plate/red dot. The crap they use to install the factory cover plate is crusty and will strip your mounting screws. Clean those holes! Trust me.

[@karllambert2350]

Noice , I'll keep that in mind . Thanks !

[@KuyaPow626]

What's the best way to clean these holes? Asking for a friend... Special machining lube and tiny brush?

[@dadadadada4974]

@@KuyaPow626 toothpick and spin

[@RiseT14]

Just ordered my Holoson! Going to be running this exact setup as my edc and I'm super excited.

[@ryanrichardson9915]

I bought a metal plate from C-H that came with screws. The 407C Is now mounted solid as hell on my 4.6 10mm. I used one of the plastic shit plates that S&W provided and the Optic came flying off and hit me right in the forehead. The plastic plate literally snapped in half right down the screw hole line. I can’t believe the engineers at S&W really thought that a plastic plate would be able to handle the cyclical torque a 10mm slide produces. And I was the one dumb enough to use it. Live and learn.

[@jaimesalazar6184]

What size plate did you use?

[@Blackhawk556.]

What’s were the torque inch pounds you used to make them tight?

[@JohnnyBravo02]

You obviously didn’t use lock tite and proper torque spec

[@protoculture289]

​@JohnnyBailey-jq1qm I have a few thousand rounds using the plastic plates and nothing has happened. Dude probably used an insane amount of torque

[@crackboulder4159]

Mine broke as well

[@briggshayward1702]

Thanks Ken! So excited to put my new Venom red dot on my 2.0 compact!!!

[@azhardhawan7390]

Awesome product actually my second worth every penny

[@stevenburnside7917]

Thank you for keeping things short.

[@jackhessmer1129]

How do you get the cover plate off ?

[@charlesdonahue3667]

I'm a huge S&W M&P fan. I have more of their products than I dare to admit. They check all my boxes except for these issues. #1 Let's get some better packaging other than those cardboard boxes. Aside from my folding 9mm carbine and optic ready, threaded 2.0, everything else came in cardboard with no cases. #2 Provide tools for the appropriate tasks required to operate the product. There are no tools provided to remove the slide cover mount to install my red dot and the factory cover screws are so cheap that one of the heads stripped and I have to get additional tools to remove the stripped screw. I'll take my S&W firearms over their competitors any day, but my Sig and Canik firearms came with great packaging, tools and accessories. C'mon S&W step it up in these areas.

[@patrickbean1370]

Will S&W offer M&P 2.0 optics ready slide only for those who have one already that is not optics ready and want to upgrade the slide?

[@CrazyPalidin57]

Id love for S&W to sell any parts for upgrade or aftermarket use. But unfortunately they leave this massive market untapped or ignored.

[@KuyaPow626]

@@CrazyPalidin57 I am just learning about this issue (I am feeling it as well) and I think they know that people who want it are going to just buy another complete gun from them...

[@mrjeffjob]

I sent my 9 to Culper Precision to cut the slide and cerakote it. $150. I first tried an aluminum adapter plate that goes into the dovetail after removal of rear sight. Threads stripped out immediately due to only being able to apply 10ft lbs torque.

[@baliktad8]

@@mrjeffjob I think you mean 10 in lbs not 10 ft lbs.

[@time2ski-David-Nicholas]

My gun shop in Colorado just shipped my M&P 2.0 10mm back to Smith & Wesson after having my Holosun 508 with a C-H plate come lose a 4th time in less than 1 year. This has become my favorite pistol and I sure hope S&W can come up with a solution to keep the optic on the pistol.

[@time2ski-David-Nicholas]

@@warthog11966 The did, and recently used red loctite. This is the 4th time the thing has been re-attached. They even sent it into Smith and Wesson. Love the pistol, but not sure how much faith I have in the mount. Wish there was a way to weld the dang red dot on so it never came off.

[@bcm.riffle]

Please replace the plastic plates with metal ones

[@Kenzaki1010]

why? It is not like the MOS where the plate is mount to the gun and the optic is mount to plate. The plate is a filler (placer?) and the optic is mount directly to the slide, why do you want it to be metal?

[@inFAIMous03]

@@Kenzaki1010 I’m new here, what happens if you mount it without a plate?

[@Kenzaki1010]

@@inFAIMous03 the plate provide the the recoil bosses and also places for your optic to wedge against. Not put the plate there mean the 2 screws will take the full force of the recoil which is not what you want.

[@inFAIMous03]

@@Kenzaki1010 ah I see. Thanks

[@edwardstubbs3976]

** Never thought I could, but I did. Thank you 😊 . Holosun 507 **

[@howardnemerov1849]

Hi Ken, I double checked my M&P 2.0 slide and there's no removable cover. The slide is solid between ejection port and rear sight. So what do I do? Get an optic-ready slide or get it milled? MRA plate?

[@richardcolligon4277]

Thanks for the lesson! I definitely want that pistol, 16 round's of butt kicking!

[@rickr9504]

17+1

[@chasingcarslikedogs680]

@@rickr9504 16 if you have the compact 15+1 which is what I have

[@jonathansanford2786]

I came here to find out what size torque bit you need to remove the mounting plate. Any idea?

[@chemislife]

Im surprised no one answered this question. Seeing as Im sure you already found out by now the answer for anyone else reading this is: They are Tr8 screws.

[@crackboulder4159]

5/64 Allen

[@lamoscapeluda]

Smith and Wesson needs to do something about the cheap plastic adapter plates on the 10mm. The posts on them are not strong enough to hold back-and-forth movement of the red dot, thus putting all the pressure onto the mounting screws and shearing them off. I will not buy this pistol until this issue is fixed. Not only does it cause unreliability, but it can be a danger to the shooter when the dot flies off.

[@joshuab7737]

Buy a CHWPS plate.

[@jackierobinson1351]

What's the proper tool to remove the cover plate??

[@chemislife]

The screws are Tr8 (Torx 8)

[@ronaldcordova4210]

What red dot and mounting plate do you recommend for a California compliance M&P Shield 9mm? .. thank you

[@catatumbo8390]

I bought the exact same pistol and wonder what kind of foot prints red dot I can install? Thanks

[@NativeAmerican10]

I just got mine last month I love my gun like I love my Harley Davidson 💙 ❤ ♥ 💕 💗

[@ericdaoust4940]

I own the earlier model of the 2.0 9mm with no cover on the slide, what are my options? Do I have any? #SmithAndWesson #RedDot #KenScott

[@christygodfrey6470]

I do too. I want a red dot but mine has a chamber indicator and no removable plate 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@GodGunsGills]

Does the m&p 2.0 metal take all 4 red dot footprints?

[@jw722865]

I’d love to mount one on my 2.0 compact, BUY YALL WONT SELL ME A SLIDE!!

[@daveh9551]

Oh snap I didn’t even notice the plate kit in the box

[@kentuckykevin2709]

I've got the 10mm...shoots great

[@leonosbo]

Works.

[@danielmamaril9347]

is it compatible with glocks? same mounth?

[@BXsouth]

Are optic ready slides available for purchase for the m&p 2.0?

[@Eddie87Grant]

I believe that they come with the optic ready slides straight from the assembly line at least that’s what S&W claims.

[@callmedenzelable]

Ed brown ! I just bought mines it hasn't shipped yet but I'll give you an update if you like!

[@callmedenzelable]

Oh I have the 9mm fullsize

[@hedenponce-pf2pd]

@@callmedenzelabledid it?

[@ryanrichardson9915]

Which screws that came with the 2.0 10mm do you use for the Holosun?

[@officiallytx]

The holosun actually comes with screws to mount it and with blue thread locker on as well!

[@inFAIMous03]

@@officiallytx is that not too short? I noticed 4 screws on mine, do I mount the plate to the slide the. The optic to the plate? I’m new at this.

[@officiallytx]

@@inFAIMous03 there should be 2 long screws and 2 short screws. You’ll use the longer screws with thread locker to mount the optic to the plate, and to the slide.

[@mrjeffjob]

I didn’t get any screws that fit my 507. The rear closer together screws are 6-32 but they don’t fit the front wider apart holes. Anyone know what size I need ? Or do I need to have the threads chased?

[@danielmclendon8346]

@@mrjeffjob got the exact same issue. Also nothing seems to want to thread in. After reading some other comments, it appears that you need to clean the threads on the wider holes before screwing in the screws. But, again, which screw?

[@mtnride4930]

Can you mount a red dot on the EZ9?

[@festerperez454]

Hey ken had a question 4 you. How about the 380 ez???

[@ryanj74]

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[@ryanj74]

Here's another option by using a mount. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJDMaaaiqrCjlac

[@enigmatic710]

Do i need an adaptive plate seal?

[@JayNayMay]

Why don't I have a cover plate ?

[@dwaynemartin8256]

Older version like mine unfortunately.

[@terrialexander8141]

Does the plates come with the gun or the optic? I purchased both and I don’t have the hardware or plates. Who do I contact?

[@markkeller9378]

Plates come with the pistol IF its optics ready. Did you buy an optics ready SW?

[@chriss6154]

I have a 2.0 and it does not have that plate at all Is that a specific model or special slide I would have to buy or what's that all about

[@brxndon24]

What Holosun is that

[@POPJack1717]

When is this trigger being implemented on the CORE series?

[@eddiearchuleta615]

My 2.0 core trigger is way better than my 2.0 10mm that flat trigger has lots of grit I’ll take the core trigger any day

[@POPJack1717]

@@eddiearchuleta615 my core was not so good. It's actually currently being sent back to smith bc the trigger had almost a non existent reset. My 1.0 and standard 2.0s triggers were both better than the core. It was definitely the wrong trigger in this gun or the wrong springs. No way should my 1.0 have a better trigger than my 2.0 core.

[@jessek8974]

Do any of vortex red dot pistol sights work on the newer Smith and Wesson m2.0 optic ready factory plates by chance?

[@MINIHAHA1]

I have the M&P pro and don't have the plates for it. I know the 2.0 came with them but not sure if the first gen did. Do you know if I need them for that model and if so how do I get them? Thanks

[@robertplank6284]

Apparently there are problems either with the guns mounting set up or the red dots mounting set up because I saw 2 reviews where the red dot flew off.

[@l.o.s.gardens550]

They give us fucking plastic….that’s why. Plastic isn’t the most durable thing when put under pressure and vibration.

[@upnorthvlogs]

The real question is when And how do we get one I am in m&p 10 mm

[@oquendo0021]

I don’t have the 2.0 but the first one that came out can I still get a slide to mount an red dot

[@nsgjay]

My mp 2.0 .45 acp does not have a cover plate just iron sights does this mean I have to get it cut?

[@stevencameron1562]

What is the "appropriate tool"? Screw driver? Phillips? Allan wrench?

[@_dmorales16]

My smith and Wesson 2.0 m&p doesn’t have this ?🤔

[@mbenjamin292]

What tool do I need you say proper tool what is the proper tool?New sub.

[@donniegardner191]

What if your M&P does not have screws in the top of it I have 6 of them and they are not all the same slide

[@chrisgenge1]

Do think the HS507K would be a good fit? Thanks!

[@keithstone5253]

I put the 407k on mine. Only have about 150 rounds thru it, but so far so good.

[@evoben24]

@@keithstone5253 Does it come with the plate to mount the 407k on it?

[@keithstone5253]

@@evoben24 One of them does work, but you have to file down the tabs a little due to they are to long.

[@danielmcgarry3116]

Can you install a red dot 🔴 on the M&P EZ

[@davidapoland]

Right to the point. Excellent.

[@willwrk4gunz]

Can I cut the slide for an optic on a full size 5" 2.0. It has the loaded chamber indicator on top.

[@tileman108]

the only people who have actually seen the new flat trigger 2,0 optic ready guns are youtube presenters

[@alexanderortega6577]

Nice 💪😀👍🇺🇸

[@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521]

Can you mount the red dot directly on the slide without the mounting plate?

[@JohnDoe-wz7lw]

Yes but only with the holosun scs model

[@matthewward7457]

I have an M&P 2.0 that is not optics ready, just have to use rear sight spot to use mount adapter.

[@jonvagnier]

Do you have any adaptors you would recommend?

[@daveaver]

Glad you’re going to stick it to NY along with the other manufacturers! Thank you…who to donate to?

[@cloud9photography126]

my M&P 9mm 2.0 performance center doesn't have any cover plate nor holes, just a flat surface and one hole....so how do i install it on mine

[@larrylung4795]

What plate did you use from the pistol kit

[@jasonshallenberger]

Type 1, I used the type 1 on my holosun 407c

[@TexasFireMedic]

@@jasonshallenberger what screws did you use

[@Dosumn]

@@TexasFireMedic The screws included with the optic.

[@welshterror]

S&W recommended I buy a metal plate from CH Precision. Has the plastic plate held up on the 9mm and Holoson Red Dot? THX

[@Prepper319]

great so see a black man represent Smith & Wesson- definitely will be supporting the brand in any way I can ❤

[@resolute123]

Real question is when will you fix the reset on your 9mm with the new flat face trigger? It's like your old M&P 1.0.

[@chasingcarslikedogs680]

You too? Says it’s audible but I don’t hear shit

[@watchmanofyah0324]

Change it out for the APEX TACTICAL SMITH & WESSON M&P FLAT FACED TRIGGERS POLYMER , trust you will see the difference

[@resolute123]

@@watchmanofyah0324 You had me at Apex. Love their stuff.

[@paulrampon1167]

I have a Shield-Plus that came with a CT red dot. Will the plates provided in the 3012907 plate kit surface to use a Holosun 507?

[@Three60Crusader]

No it won’t work with communist companies 😂

[@HOLY16CITY]

The real question is how do we get the M&p m2.0 10mm? 😂

[@The101vet]

I been looking everywhere for that damn gun and can't find it

[@allenhoward178]

Wow I didn't know that even existed but my Glock 29 works good

[@karllambert2350]

Pre order

[@allenhoward178]

@@The101vet yeah you could back over it Palomar State armory check them out they've been having them in stock I think twice a month now I just checked and they're not in stock but you could back order it

[@jllrue]

Grab A Gun has it in stock

[@jamescastillo6853]

It doesn't work in MO 2.0 shield 45?

[@TomHanks-cu9rf]

If anyone has used the screws provided by holosun on their m&p to mount this plz lmk if so and how it went! I hear so many different answers and stories of peoples dots flying off because of sheared screws thanks!!

[@casperaudi7476]

Thank You Sir😂

[@rollingolden1013]

Am i the only person with a 2.0 that did come with plates and a tool

[@pagegreer5081]

Yes later modles I've got a9mm and 10mm that have the wedge system

[@StevenSmith-NYBreed]

My M&P 2.0 9mm cannot take a red dot sight. Are there other alternatives/accessories for the 2.0 9mm?

[@btglass60]

They make them now optic ready

[@dakotapelton9182]

I have the M&P M2.0 9mm, subcompact and it doesn't seem to have a place to install a red dot

[@richmichael5866]

Just called Smith & Wesson regarding my 2.0 10 mm in their instructions there is no plate for holosun 507c So I called them and they said correct holosun not compatible However in this video you see Ken Scott mounting a 507C on a 10 mm with a type one plate unknown which screws he used to anybody advise or is this just a glitch from Smith & Wesson I mounted mine on with the type one plate using Smith and Wesson screws i have yet to shoot it Any input would be greatly appreciated thank you

[@MrCcaballero003]

Did you ever try it out any issues ? I ended up using the longer screws too

[@zyzzuschrist3410]

Thanks for this video. But how do I mount a green dot? I don’t like red dots for my eyesight.

[@Eddie87Grant]

Yep I’m with you there I had previously bought a green dot for my Springfield XDM Elite 10mm but however they or a third party don’t have sights tall enough to co-witness. So that one willI be affixed to the S&W. I have one a green dot on my Glock 22 gen5 and I love it. I just wish that the other gun manufacturers would come with optic ready slides, extra tall sights, and plates to fit different optics. Thank you S&W for that excellent foresight!!!

[@inFAIMous03]

I’m still new to this, I thought some manufacturers sell green dots that are exactly the same as their red dot counter parts, wouldn’t it be the same mounting?

[@sunvalleyorganics]

Exactly the same way. Only difference is the color of the dot itself

[@marksmith311]

My 2.0 has no plate to remove.

[@Cryptic_Entity22]

Alright I can’t seem to find the answer anywhere. I have a m&p40 m2.0 and no plate on the slide for an optic mount, the only thing (re)movabale on the slide is the fixed slides. I don’t want night sights, I want a red dot optic

[@charlesdonahue7683]

If you find the answer let me know. I'm in the same situation.

[@Cryptic_Entity22]

@@charlesdonahue7683 what I’ve essentially found out is that S&W 1st editions of a firearm usually only include the standard sights. Once they’ve gone to further editions of the slide, it will include the plate. Essentially I purchased mine too fast 🤷‍♂️

[@shawnfarand]

This video is a joke, for me anyway. so... as an owner of the 5in FDE m2.0, purchased upon debut, there were no optic-ready options then. And now, it only appears certain models are available 'optics-ready', and full size or 5" only available as "law-enforcement only"??? Seriously? Why is it so F!!@#!! difficult to get a factory, optics ready slide replacement for the friggin firearm???!!! I can manage to find custom slides online, but it should be MUCH easier for S&W to offer a slide replacement for purchase. Boggles my mind how UN-INTUITIVE their website is. "Law enforcement only" is all I see for my pistol w/optics-ready slide (nevermind just wanting to purchase a slide)! I Love my M&P's, but man, I hate their website.

[@jfphotoandlife8287]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@IronDuck1776]

Wtf my slide has no cover plate its just smooth with nothing to remove

[@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521]

Where’s the safety plunger? I saw what looked like a safety plunger but I didn’t fly out

[@keithstone5253]

S&W place a cover over the safety plunger on the optics ready version.

[@enterprise59]

My 2.0 Shield can't use a red dot :( no place for it.

[@wessonbui9000]

Same here

[@toxic_zaddy23]

whyd the lady at my local store say mine cant have a red dot??? and here it is

[@richardoliver1468]

Some of the pistols will allow you to install a red dot by using a dove tail mounting plate. If your pistol allows for that, you will removing the rear sight.

[@mrjeffjob]

No need to do that with the optics cut.

[@huffdapuff359]

Mine absolutely does not have a cover plate

[@gixxergixxer8348]

Think I'll just use the rail under the barrel.

[@TheRealDebH]

The M&P 2.0 40 cal doesn't have a mounting plate....

[@kevinJohnson-ch6vh]

Be good to tell how to determine which plate to use with site. Instructions in box don't even mention the Holosun that you just put on.

[@KuyaPow626]

Their website has a page for every gun, and then on each of those pages there is a link for "Tech Data Sheet" or "Spec Sheet" that opens a PDF or instructions manual. The plate & compatibility chart is on there

[@YeetBomb]

don't you need to loctite it?

[@ronbrown6388]

So have I have the M&P 2.0 4.5 inch barrel in 10mm. Why on God's earth would M&P ship plastic plates for such a powerful round??????? The plastic plates will shear right off food for thought.

[@BrandensOutdoorChannel]

The plate doesn't hold the optic. It is just a spacer. The screws go into the slide.

[@DWoo-ke9gb]

Sucks. My 2.0 doesn't have a plate to install a red dot.

[@bdm3052]

Man y’all tighten the screws way too much. Can’t remove mine for my 2.0 spec series

[@spencer5654]

So much easier than sigp320.

[@KanakaUso96792]

Wait a minute….my pistol didn’t come with that mounting plate

[@mikebryant8082]

We would like to see affordable slides for those of us who don't have optics ready pistols please

[@mrjeffjob]

A slide is more expensive than having your slide cut for your optic. I just had my 9 cut AND cerakoted for $150

[@swmagnum5007]

w

[@Curveball]

It would be nice if S&W would stop being cheap and make aluminum mounting plates rather than cheap plastic ones.

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

huh, they finally hid the dislike count

[@zyzzuschrist3410]

Its gone. KZbin wide

[@stevenmark8156]

I love the M&P 9. I have 3 of them. But they are literally crap till you put in an Apex trigger. As long as S&W has been making guns and M&P’s, you would think that they could produce a decent trigger. The 2.0 is supposed to be better that the 1.0, but I don’t detect that’s it’s much better at all. Still super gritty. What a disappointment! It’s pretty sad when you buy a new gun, you have to immediately spend another $180 for a trigger to make it shoot properly! The only reason I even bought the 2.0 is I wanted a new gun to put in MCK and I want my magazines to all be interchangeable. As I said, I love the guns with the Apex, but I really hate the S&W company! And if you ever need to order a part under Warrenty, the jerk that that you have to deal with on the phone is apparently trying to destroy the company. He is a real jerk/moron! You have to fight with him to get him to do anything right. I spoke with a S&W certified gunsmith that told me, if a customer brings him a gun that needs Warrenty work, he refuses it unless the customer will do the phone calling. He said it’s more of hassle that it’s worth. S&W needs to get their act together!!

[@whatiwonder4299]

I don’t fully disagree with you. As someone who owns a 2.0C I’ve actually really liked my trigger. Now I don’t have a fancy $200 trigger to compare to, but after shooting my buddies 5.56 AR, I prefer my pistol’s trigger reset

[@antonstepura5795]

Maybe mention that this doesn't apply to most of your handguns, since they don't have cover plates lol "yOuRe GoInG tO NoTiCe ThAt ThErE iS a CoVeR pLaTe" please show me where the cover plate is on my basic ass pistol lol

[@MadDogRigs]

.. umm do I have a fake ? Looks nothing like that

[@Acdiesel1]

No cleaning of threads? No Loctite? No torque spec? Goodness Smith and Wesson.. try again.

[@TomHanks-cu9rf]

Yah I was wondering about that too the screws have a bit of thread locker on them from holosun ans s&w so I get that part but no torque?? Come on lol

[@michaellygnos4325]

What a poor video. What is the size of the appropriate tool?

[@Renaldo135]

worthless video. what are the proper tools to take off the cover plate without stripping it how about that ??

[@absolute95]

No kidding. Just kinda glosses over that part. It's the only reason I watched the video. And of course it's not included