How To Mount & Frame Works on Paper, NOT Behind Glass

[@ArtMechanicsLosAngeles]

I like your videos and my comment is meant to be constructive. As a professional picture framer I'd like to chime in on the mounting topic. Titebond on plywood may be the least desirable choice for mounting artwork. The main problem is yellowing (they do call it yellow glue lol). To solve this try a PVA style glue (Lineco) designed for mounting artwork. It is generally ph neutral and acts like Titebond when you are working with it. You can likely get a gallon from the same people who sold you the leaf sizing. You may also decide to buffer the plywood somehow. Gesso is usually a good option for this. And painting both sides of the panel can keep it from warping. Hope that helps!

[@travisiurato]

I agree!

[@omdraws7325]

However, I’d recommend using an archival adhesive such as Golden gel medium. Or a natural alternative such as wheat starch paste. This will ensure the bonding agent between artwork and panel will remain chemically stable, non yellowing and acid free. Many common adhesives will leech into porous substrates and create all sorts of issues that can degrade both the pigments, paints, varnishes, etc. Apologies if that is an unsolicited comment, but felt sharing some conservation knowledge was worthwhile.

[@ldrake2047]

The frames are amazing but wood glue is not archival.

[@DiodePress]

Man, I'm always so jealous when I see you doing these frame videos. Without a wood shop I'm stuck with pre-made frames, which are never this nice (without a huge cost!). I really love the look of the final piece, the aluminum leaf is such a nice look!

[@christiemacey322]

I was a custom frame for 8 years and I'm also an artist...I loved watching the process (and I'm envious of all the tools you have to work with!)

[@JonPetersArtHome]

Thanks!

[@WayneWBishop]

I love the care and attention to detail Jon has put into this frame building. It’s just genius.

[@JonPetersArtHome]

Thanks Wayne!

[@milld9345]

I started watching your channel to learn about woodworking techniques and now I’m stoked to find out you have done tutorials on artist frames. I’m an artist and I get so many clients asking me about frames and I too find it hard to find decent frames without it costing a bizzilion dollars. Your frames are exactly the style I’m after and who knows maybe one day I can offer frames to clients. I really like your process too, very easy to understand without over complicating things.

[@chickadddee]

The result of this method is so beautiful! I'm amazed. What protects the artwork from deterioration over time, does it have some kind of archival protection as well? Thanks, I'll check out the rest of your channel ... 👍🏼

[@gdstudios-fineartcreations2295]

Yep, just LOVE watching how you break down the project and both visually and verbally describe the step-by-step process. I am a visual artist (painter) and I have been wanting to make my own frames and your channel is absolutely perfect. Thank you so much for going to all the work to produce these excellent how-to videos! And I am going to post this video to my FB page now to tell all my artist friends : )

[@JonPetersArtHome]

Thanks Gwen

[@jimmyjames3220]

The metal leaf looks awesome on your frames Jon. I enjoy watching your vids and have learned a lot. Thanks.

[@philmcavity4303]

Truly fascinating. Artistry shows itself in so many ways and it is obvious you have mastered a number of them!

[@Caroline_622]

So thankful for your instruction! I’ve done a few of your floating frames awhile back but need to do a bigger one now. All I know is following how you do it (exactly) makes my art frames look suitable for a gallery 👌

[@Retroweld]

Those are beautiful paintings. I love abstract artwork. Nice job building the frame. The metal leaf is a nice touch. Douglas

[@cltriley]

Wah. This is great. I don’t have these tools but I’m encouraged to begin some framing of my art and my autistic daughter’s art too. Thank you.

[@markzelinskiphotography3768]

I. LOVE. THIS. FRAME!!! Going to get started on some trial pieces. Thanks so much.

[@sharenwatson4124]

whow, I have a new appreciation for frame makers. It's quite an art in itself.

[@svvancouver3307]

These paintings are gorgeous. Wow what a huge amount of work vs. just buying a float mount frame. But this way all of it is a work of art! I appreciate the video showing all of this is put together. Amazing miter cuts.

[@chlrus95]

I just found your channel today and want to say a huge thank you! Very helpful 👍👍👍

[@stevesteves8915]

Those frames look really good! I was a little surprised that the artwork was glued on to the backing board - any framing I have done has concentrated on not letting anything touch the artwork if possible - I'm sure you know what you're doing, just surprised, that's all! I am very keen to try this myself (it is nice seeing art without looking through glass)

[@adolfodelgado5366]

There is any other way to do it ???

[@blaineanderson245]

@@adolfodelgado5366 I think I would glue a piece of blank watercolor paper or an archival mat to the wood to give a separation of the acidic wood from the rag paper. Then I would use linen tape with T strips on the back to attach the painting to the mat board. That way you could have an archival process and a method that can be undone in the future if you don't want the artwork permanently attached to the wood. I think a mat would be best because I want to have a bit of thickness to the buffer and so I would account for that when deciding how deep to go with my floater.

[@corysturgis6660]

@@blaineanderson245 I was also wondering about acidic issues and what the wood glue would do long term?

[@omdraws7325]

So tastefully done. Thanks for sharing your process 👏🏼

[@poesloke]

It’s great to see such great craftsmanship!

[@JonPetersArtHome]

+Jesse Daniels Thanks Jesse

[@JULIEI1000]

Thanks so much for this video. This is exactly what I needed to create frames for my works on paper and the art I buy locally ❤

[@alexandriaolivia4953]

Wow! Super professional. I was watching videos on how to frame my art. This is amazing. I don’t have all these tools but It is so interesting watch you do this.

[@iamkorbendallas]

Really neat job John. I particularly enjoyed the silver portion on the face frame.

[@glennTinylionUK]

I love your workshop, wish I had one like it. A lovely building. Thanks and hello from a rainy spring,morning in England.

[@JonPetersArtHome]

Thanks Glenn

[@mcuna42]

Beautiful work, but I would use two layers of GAC-100 to protect against Support-Induced Discoloration. - If you aren't familiar with this topic, there is an excellent article about it on Golden's website.

[@OgnianBorisov]

Hi Jon, in your videos showing many interesting techniques for making picture frames. It's very nice and I often in my projects apply your techniques. Greetings from Bulgaria

[@ronaldjoseph4425]

I wanted to do this the other day and didn't know where to look. I messed up but now I have a better idea.Thanks for the video.

[@777-Phil]

Very very professional and polished! Thank you!

You are very talented, not only in carpentry also in painting. Congratulations!

[@maratmirzaev816]

really nice class and beautiful words for artists ) thank you !

[@patredway881]

so neat, the frame is beautiful by itself

[@joeg7537]

Simply an incredible job. Such attention to detail.

[@donnaallgaier-lamberti3933]

I would appreciate your suggestion(s) on what to use as a backer board (not too expensive) to protect collages made of handmade papers. As you know dipped sheets of plant paper often have irrigular (deckled edges.) I do NOT need to frame my teaching samples but rather am looking for a way to support the collage so that students can look at them, handle them and pass them around. Thank you!

[@vernonb6439]

marks the angles flawlessly

[@davenix604]

Your work is so neat and orderly,wow

[@JonPetersArtHome]

+Dave Nix Thank you!

[@pastormaldonator9687]

WOW! It such an amazing job that you show us... Thank you very much!

[@stevecollins9450]

Those turned out great, Jon.

[@peachfilms]

These frames look fantastic!

[@87alliek]

I love the final look of many of your final framing processes, I just seem to find myself wondering what If for some reason a costumer loves a piece of artwork that has been framed but for some reason wants something different ? In many of the videos I've watched you have used wood glue to adhere the artwork in some way to the frame. How would this affect the customer's ability to change the frame? The wood glue seems to make whichever frame the artwork is in permanent. Also, can wood glue negatively affect conservation of the artwork?

[@Cygnus-X1]

This is fantastic - very glad to have stumbled on this

[@corysturgis6660]

The frame is a masterpiece

[@donjohnson24]

It was interesting to see your approach to producing high-quality frames for 'floating' pictures. An artist friend of mine recently asked me to make some simple frames for her normal stretched canvas pictures, and I started querying what sort of moulding effect she wanted on the surround. We talked at cross-purposes for a few minutes until I understood she wanted them like yours. She was happy with pine, which she paints with a wash coat, or even leaves plain, so I was able to use dimensional lumber - I think that is one term, but here in the UK it can be called PSE, or planed square edge. I buy 94 inch lengths of 1 3/4 x 3/4 and 1 3/4 x 1/2 inch timber (but in metric dimensions!) and glue one of each size together to form a 94 inch long 'L' section. I have to be careful when selecting timber to get straight lengths, and I ensure that the thinner section is attached just proud of the thicker, so that I can use a few plane strokes to ensure the final outer surface is flat and level. I cut the long lengths down to just longer than needed, then use my version of Drunken Woodworker's Ultimate Picture Frame Sled (see his KZbin video) to get them to their final size. When glued together, I use DW's Spline Jig to make slots, and use pine splines to add strength to the frames, rather than using my pin nailer. Because I am making quite a number of these frames, I really have to use pre-prepared lumber, but the limited range of sizes available locally, and the depth of her canvas frames (about 1 5/8 inch) has determined the construction method, but she is delighted with the result, and it keeps me busy in my retirement.

[@JonPetersArtHome]

Don Johnson Don, thanks for the comment and sounds like you're doing some great framing work.

[@chromefree]

Wondering what your prices are like, for instance, what would you charge to mount and frame a 20x20 inch work on paper? Also, do you think that wood glue is archivally compatible with artwork on paper?

[@randyowens264]

The tool noise was better in this video, still had a couple louder spots, but overall an improvement. Not trying to be a complainer, but how can you deal with a problem if you do not know you have one? I have really enjoyed your videos. They have expanded my interests to more than just woodworking and I have very much appreciated what I have learned. THANK YOU!

[@vitaminsminerals9708]

My eyes nearly fell out when he drew a long straight line WITHOUT A RULER

[@johndoe-fd7rd]

I had to go back and watch it in slow motion. Defiantly some form of wizardry. @ 8:50

[@robertopereira9418]

seus trabalhos são uma obra de arte, pois a suavidade do toque de suas mãos fazem a delicadeza de cada produção... parabens Jon Peters.

[@amymagnon5237]

Frames are awesome. Just wondering why wood glue to mount art to wood panel. Acid free=archival. Is this wood glue archival?

[@moisesluna3624]

Thanks from México. Me gusta mucho tu trabajo. Esto es lo que llaman floating frame?? Gracias

[@MrSirang]

I love this channel!, I'm an artist and I always look forward to your videos, keep it up👍

[@caridadaponte9088]

Question: cost? For fabricating your frame? Video is easy to follow....wondering if I can do it myself.....nice video....

[@annlatinovich]

Incredibly helpful. Thank you

[@NormandoLuz]

Good work in here. Thanks for this. Success

[@monetcafe]

Very interesting. I found your video while doing a search to see if anyone has ever come up with a way to display (frame) soft pastel artwork without using glass. As a pastel artist, I have dreamed of a way to show my work without the obstruction of glass. I know soft pastel pieces are delicate in nature as compared to other mediums and I don't use fixative on my paintings (as it darkens them). If you have any knowledge of framing or displaying pastel artwork without glass I'd love for you to share. By the way... nice channel. I will share it with my art group.

[@JonPetersArtHome]

Thanks, I can’t think of anything now but if I do I’ll be sure to make a video.

[@MaximMaximov]

Thank you were much for your video and I have a question on 11:20 you use Clay. What kind of Clay is it?

[@lesliemctavish4300]

I love that you made a film. Cool. Do you sell your art? Have you ever wanted to sell your work at hgh ticket prices? I am just beginning to start that venture.

[@jessicahannum533]

Do you sell frames? I’m an Artist. Always need float frames for canvas art. Great work!!!

[@terrapin52]

Looks amazing! The channel is very helpful. Thanks!

[@mightyquinn5135]

Great job. Not to sound mean but the frame is worth more than the art! Whats the clay do for the aluminum gilding?

[@gusvirgant2392]

Great work, very neat. 👍

[@bonnielevinthal2565]

helpful video... but i would also recommend that you not use wood glue...mounting is archival using an acrylic (liquitex or golden) medium

[@valueforvalue76]

I think miracle muck would be a better choice. It might even be a little cheaper. That wood glue is actually pretty expensive, if you don't mind using an acidic glue Elmer's glue all is way less expensive and I've read the acid is neutralized after it dries though I've never trusted that and only use PH neutral pva (miracle muck).

[@JayCreativeLife]

Love the art work and the channel .. Keep the videos coming .. Thanks

[@AnsellSteven]

Is the wood glue archival? Since it is touching the paper is it possible that the glue would damage the paper over time? Or, does the primer on the back of the paper take care of that?

[@GeorgeSchwab]

***** I am curious about this also. Wondering if there is a more archival way to achieve this same effect

[@marils8452]

both sides of the paper were primed, as he states in the beginning of the video- I still wouldn't be confident that titebond wouldn't eventually leech through. There are many acid free alternatives, like Jade glue. Simple white glue, but acid free

[@antonioosoriokory]

Gracias por compartir tu trabajo es inspirador saludos desde México!!!

[@momapes]

Great Video Jon! Nice work but I too cringed when I saw you using wood glue on paper to adhere it to the panel. As far as I know it is not archival. Why not use heavy matte medium instead? It looks like a lot of viewers here are also wondering this. Even with it sealed on the back of the paper it can still migrate after time. Mo

[@keitheager6023]

Thanks for the thorough walkthrough!

[@anguscollis3493]

Hi, i really loved those frames, especially with the artwork combination. Are there any tips you would give for glueing paper works onto canvas. Would an acrylic primer be ok for the glue?

[@corysturgis6660]

Did you try it?

[@anguscollis3493]

@@corysturgis6660 I went with a floating mount behind glass. The gallery wouldn't let me do it.

[@erikhemmingsson1188]

Great work and video as always!

[@boojay111]

I see you used wood glue to fix the paintings to the plywood, is it acid free wood glue and is the plywood also acid free. I am sure I am being over cautious but will the glue if not acid free rot the paper or change the colour of the paper? I expect the artist is using at least 300lb paper there so would it be thick enough to stop any colour change. Would be interested to know what the artist used to seal the painting.

[@pepinid]

Robert said the artist had gessoed both front AND BACK of the paper, which was very heavy (300#)so not only was it very thick, it was protected by acrylic gesso.

[@LJC3276]

Such a great frame! That's a lot of work. I would love to frame my paintings like that before sale but I know its costly.

[@traceywaddington4756]

Is that all acid free? And what about the lignin and stain coming from the wood?

[@jerrygioiasr3635]

You do a great to woodworkers, my friend

[@JonPetersArtHome]

Thanks Jerry

[@vauxhalllux]

what are the white strips around Elwood's paintings. I can't tell from this video how they appeared on the paintings.

[@hakbug]

This is amazing! Thank you so much for sharing!

[@chrismazz6130]

Nice work!

[@acitizen5186]

So the summary of comments seem to be: 1) excellent craftsmanship on the frames/bracing etc. 2) wood glue is not the standard adhesive used for archival mounting of paper for specific reasons.

[@z1522]

The paradox is that this would have to be a $500-1000 framing; works would have to justify that investment a few times over, to seem appropriate, yet at that point, investment starts to shift to concerns of archival materials, museum quality methods, etc which all would balk at any irreversible adhesive like Tite-bond, fine for cabinetry which the frame is effectively. Another paradox is that the majority of struggling artists producing similar quality work simply can't afford what is really "gilding the lily." Every local show finds excellent works framed with the cheapest lathe boards, which can be finished to a presentable level, cost a few dollars, and if the works appreciate, a more professional framing is easy to upgrade.

[@123456789toshu]

Please if you can suggest me ways of installing a big canvas of size 72inch by 48inch. What would be better: Pasting it on wall directly or getting it framed? Please suggest?

[@normaschaumann4992]

could you tell me what the "CLAY" is you apply with the aluminum foil? I cannot find reference to that.

[@SaifKhan-ry4oq]

www.naturalpigments.com/artist-materials/base-gilding-prep-applying/

[@jerishull1860]

I do some framing for my sister (myself too!). She and I both love floater frames for the cradled panels I make (learned from you!). I am concerned about pressing down on the artwork to screw the panel to the frame. My sister uses lots of texture in her art. Any tips for this? Thank you!

[@corysturgis6660]

Pre drill and maybe set on a thick foam pad for support

[@Thelegend-gt5lb]

Looks mint man

[@SignatureMind]

I really love this video and the most important is your message at the end. Real Men Build! I want to be a furniture maker as well as an artist. Thank you. Follow Back.

[@JezliFineArts]

Excellent info thank you!

[@mezzmarr1209]

How is the surface of the artwork on paper protected?

[@saundrayork767]

thank you for this wonderful video!

[@sarahsidders612]

Hi what did you mount the artwork on before you stuck it to the ply?

[@EverydayKindaGuy]

Be aware that wood glue because of it's high moisture will damage thinner paper prints.

[@19Photographer76]

Scott Hildenbrand ...both sides of the art paper were primed, I can't believe Jon would have done it this way without trusting the outcome.

[@EverydayKindaGuy]

David Dube I was thinking more in terms of someone wanting to mount a piece like this themselves. This why I said thinner prints, not the double thickness stock he was working with.

[@glenbiggs375]

I use SoBo glue to do a similar technique. It was recommended to me by Plaza Arts and is used by architects to build their paper models. I paint on Arches 140 lb watercolor paper and have had no problems at all. I glue my paintings to Ampersand wood panels and spray with Winsor Newton spray varnish for protection.

[@muffemod]

Elmer's has a spray glue for this exact purpose that is archival and can be found at most Target stores.

[@brokendamas]

Great work, THANK YOU!

[@FilmFactry]

What exactly was the "clay" you painted? Is it just clay or an acrylic paint color?

[@MichaelScottPerkins]

FilmFactry I'd like to know this too.

[@joelanderson8061]

FilmFactry And what is the purpose of this step, exactly? A super smooth surface? Necessary for sizing adhesion?

[@eebedah1]

read the above, it explains what "clay" is and there is a link to purchase

[@lauraharris8140]

So cool!

[@karindogs628]

on what does the artist paint? And what medium can be used in this process?

[@elallaouimahmoud]

Good WORK

[@jorozfrench]

talented!

[@JonPetersArtHome]

+jennifer french thanks Jennifer

[@rxz4140]

how does the wood glue not mess up your stain and make it uneven?

[@luminor0077]

I was also wondering the same thing

[@johntague1066]

Cannot open “view reply” ?

[@dhanthapa777]

nice job

[@T2a585]

How do you make sure the painting goes in with equal spacing all around

[@davidbardwatkins]

Fantastic

[@margaretryan7483]

its a heavy primed paper, wood glue is rather heavy, you could also use wall paper paste (for vinyl paper) less water in it...

[@codacreator6162]

Not only can you do everything by yourself, in the world of commercialism, you’re EXPECTED to do it all. Just look at any job description and count the number of titles they previously held.

[@johndoe-fd7rd]

A nice frame like that would make "Polar bear in blizzard" look interesting.

[@hgya4625]

well, he is a pro !