how to NUKE the creche and keep laezel

[@trollingisasport]

LOL Your guardian looks like he was cursed by a unicorn

[@greetingsargonian]

he was blessed!

[@joelluo]

Thanos cursed by a unicorn

[@IRDANIMAL]

That's actually what most streamers characters look like anyway.

[@shaungriffith9506]

It's Astarions guardian, this is canon.

[@DforceAi]

​@@greetingsargonianThis is ridiculous lol

[@chartreusemaiden604]

Just spat out my morning coffee when I saw your dreamer.

[@JordanJumpin]

You can just do everything lae zel wants , until the end and side with the dream guardian and convince her vlaakith was never gonna let her live and the whole camp is hostile after and lae zel fights with u

[@clownworld4655]

Exactly what I did. Ez pz.

[@TearsInReign]

It was a good XP cash out before ending Act 1. It got me over level 7 before starting Act 2

[@pascaldifolco4611]

@@TearsInReign And don't the GithInquis wield a nice Gith 2H Sword especially good for LaeZel ? ^^

[@skunkjulio]

I actually attacked the Guardian, and it didn't even matter. You get railroaded to the same ending (Guardian is unkillable). Still have to convince her that Vlakith sucks, creche betrays, etc.

[@Jenna_Talia]

@@pascaldifolco4611 There's a fuckton of great gear in the créche. Both sold by vendors and equipped by enemies.

[@WavyCats]

if you do all 3 checks successfully in the creche parasite remover device, you get to use the parasite's abilities as bonus actions!!!

[@tomspooner9093]

that chair lobotomized me. my barbarian/warlock has 6 INT because of it and I find that hilarious because shes still my strongest character by a long shot

[@soraactualize5464]

@@thejokebrandt3810 just take the seat first esp if you are doing the tadpoles on your main character the checks are lower

[@Hephaestus_God]

But if you succeed one of those 30 ones it ends the conversation and she gets out (you can't do all 3)

[@atumanov55]

The chance of that is so astronomically small lol. You need to roll 3 nat 20s in a row for that

[@theAV8R]

​​@@atumanov55someone's never played a bard :). Expertise is anywhere from + 4 to +8, Cha bonus +3-5, guidance + 1 to 4. I routinely get +14 to +17

[@Geminias]

If you go past the first save in the zaithisk and succeed all the others you can prevent the debuffs as well as convince Lae'zel that the Queen may be lying to her due to the Zaithisk not working correctly. She'll then be cool with you purging the entire creche cuz... weakness breeds weakness.

[@Jenna_Talia]

That's one thing I don't get about Lae'zel's character. She's so so quick to happily be an enemy of her people, the goddess she's looked up to and worshipped her whole life is false and seeks to kill her but she near immediately recovers and takes it in stride. I know she's remarkably strong and has a steel will but I don't feel like anybody would be able to recover that fast after such a revelation.

[@angryvaultguy]

​@@Jenna_TaliaI guess because githyanki are so militarized as a culture killing is no big deal so when the creche become hostile to her in lea'zeals mind it's her or them

[@richytheking1315]

@@Jenna_TaliaI don’t think this is true at all. Her first interaction upon being told shes an enemy of her people is that Vlakith must be testing her. Her first impulse is to deny all evidence and delude herself, yet you can still hear the heartbreak in her voice as she says it because she clearly knows the truth and doesn’t want to admit it. She’s incredibly hurt by this and basically turns off. Her next interaction is her proclaiming herself Vlakiths most loyal servant. Girls going through it and shes just trying to hold whatever face she can. Wouldn’t be surprised if she properly breaks down off screen that night. If anything killing the creche gives her a distraction in the least.

[@Geminias]

@@Jenna_Talia They created an entire culture of be competent, be useful, or be discarded. It didn't surprise me at all that she turned on them so quickly.

[@Siri333333]

you actually do not need to pass the high athletics check for getting the statue unstuck. Hitting it or greasing it up works as well

[@rafaelrigottocunha6826]

U CAN GREASE THEM?! It makes so much sense!! How? The Oil or grease bottles?

[@Siri333333]

@@rafaelrigottocunha6826 I used a grease bottle. The spell will work too probably

[@greetingsargonian]

yeah i learned it later and was so surprised! this game honestly makes me so happy

[@SerBallister]

@@greetingsargonianThere is a note in the monastry area before reaching the creche that hints at this.

[@blackyvertigo]

That’s what she said

[@bejbeedeanted9158]

I like how Gale just hits the crystal few times then casually leaves

[@wulsiter252]

There is an easier way to escape. Separate the party. Leave one behind. Teleport the others somewhere else. Then grab the mace. Then revive the one in the camp.

[@1234zorg]

withers can revive, right?

[@suguiiher5209]

yea i had wyll be able to turn himself into gas and then separated and then had him fly away

[@IloveJellow]

ya just revive at withers he pretty op guy really. Wish he could be a story companion.

[@SECURITEH]

You can just misty step outside of the barrier, no need to let anyone die. :D

[@Amyante]

I think you can also destroy the gun after the trap is activated, though you'd need to leave someone outside for it so you have more time to break it.

[@ChristyOFaghan]

excellent character appearance on the dream visitor - laughed out loud in real life

[@nocturnalcove9736]

If they ever adapted BG3 into a show without Tav as the main lead, plotwise it should be Lae'zel. The Githyanki play such a big role in this game and she honestly has the best character development.

[@KitGusta]

Apparently canonically Laezel and Shadowheart are the most important characters in our party, while Gale should be the leader of the party if Tav didn't exist either. So it would be cool to see it.

[@GFirenight]

@@KitGusta In what sense are they any more important than Wyll?

[@Zetabita]

What the f, your protector is inter dimensional super mario!? 😭

[@dunngyllite7883]

That dream visitor looks quite - different....

[@X.XSCREWBALLX.X]

I respect that you still put this fight in, not many do that since it takes a min but still enjoyable. Always nice to see other ways of doing battles

[@str8forthakill]

You can outright murder the entire creche after using the device that can "remove" the tadpole, including Therezzyn, Lae'zel wont raise an eyebrow because there is a "traitor" and they are "protecting" them. Steal the gem and enter the chamber to give the relic directly to the queen, then convince Lae'zel about the queens lies and exit the relic. Poof, and she is loyal to the Orpheus instantly and sees all other Githyanki loyal to the queen as traitors.

[@SerialWheeler]

That dream visitor is so dandy 😂😂

[@raymondharnack4160]

I about f***n died the second your “protector” came on screen…. Bro…… I can’t…..☠️☠️☠️

[@keithpalmer4547]

ughlee

[@rogercollins239]

You can put your 3 additional party members in the safe zone before triggering the nuke, then just Revivify the MC afterwards.

[@juice6521]

Or you could be a badass and run out of the crumbling temple Indian Jones style.

[@lifeonmars4088]

Astarion did nothing wrong

[@ChiakiNanami736]

Correct.

[@1wayroad935]

I didn't even know that can happen. I just did the puzzles and the mace just let me take it without any fuss.

[@OxiBluz]

Same, I'm baffled I missed a whole ass cutscene like this, I never thought I could simply steal the mace lol

[@HodajuciParadoks]

Same... I am surprised by this

[@dozrFAB]

I knowingly chose to nuke the creche :)

[@helpfulDeathgod]

You can also deny giving the artefact both times, kill everyone on your way there, and the Lich Queen will still show herself. You still have to agree to do what she says at that point, as she will otherwise Wish you to death if you don't, side with your Dream Visitor, and then come out. It requires a speech check on Lae'zel a few times to keep her going along with you for some of it, and when you come out, though it is much easier if you did the Zaithisk first because she's more willing to believe that something is wrong then.

[@Xeroid49]

heres a tip, go back and kill all the githyanki ( lots of FREE XP), then go and nuke it for the funs. that way you get all the xp for killing them since nuking them does not.

[@greetingsargonian]

yeah this is the way. do quests, then kill everyone, then nuke

[@adriankoch964]

As usual you can get 3x the xp by first talking your way through, saving &loading, defeating everyone non lethally, saving&loading, then killing everyone who is knocked out.

[@rodswoodworking7151]

I did not know this trick, gonna try it when I get home since I just got to the creche.

[@rodswoodworking7151]

@DagwoodDogwoggle If you used the Dawnmaster Crest to grab Lathander's Blood, it will not nuke. You have to grab it without using the crest.

[@alexblake7587]

Never saw this :o don’t think I even found the item he puts In to get the mace

[@lendial]

I came into this with Lae'zel having neutral opinion of me and came out of it with her at around 50. I was so worried she would leave but luckily i didnt kill anyone unless attacked first.

[@juice6521]

I murderered everyone and then Oppenheimer'd the shit out of their base.

[@dozrFAB]

I sneak attacked every gith and lazel did not bat an eye

[@animelovercristina6]

I have no regrets telling that “goddess” she was no real god…even if she nuked me

[@nathandudley4537]

Easiest way I found to "nuke the crèche" is to open the iron flask while you hide in a closet. Technically my party hid in the closet while the wizard opened the iron flask and then ran to safety. Darkness and fog cloud until they nearly destroyed eachother and then joined the combat.

[@stevenharper7118]

I spoke to the captain gith to open the side area then went and got the mace after I completed the puzzle hours earlier, then went to the infirmary, then the inquisitor and then escaped killing everyone last keeping Lae'zel happy.

[@joeyvanloggem3966]

same

[@awdrifter3394]

I initiated the fight with just Shadowheart, then have the other characters sneak in. But then after killing everyone there was a pretty high requirement dice roll check to convince Lae'zel.

[@Viliar]

Lol. 'Complete her quest to keep her'. That's some detective work

[@ryit6249]

Why does your Guardian remind me of the chief of police from Zootopia? xD

[@dallasshumaker6148]

That guardian earned a like and a follow. Guardian Rizz

[@theultrasceptile]

What a beautiful dream visitor

[@greetingsargonian]

some people don't understand his beauty. i'm glad you do!

[@theultrasceptile]

@@greetingsargonian I’m glad I could! Unfortunately, my dream visitor is an ugly weirdo right now, but I’ll be sure to make them absolutely irresistible in my next go!

[@MultiZernez]

Dream Visitor is the annoying DMPC that the DM tries to get you to like, but is easily the most infuriating character ever

[@IrrelevantUserOfName]

Not that far in it yet but I'm pretty sure they're literally just a mental projection from a mind flayer or similar entity.

[@AshGreen359]

I didn't have to destroy the power source. I just misty stepped out

[@ladriel8339]

The little sounds during the accelerated fight 😂

[@AndyMc1996]

At 12:35 to spin the statue you can use a bottle of grease if everyone fails the athletics check and you dont want to reload.

[@greetingsargonian]

i learned it like after 300+ hours of playing)) just tried this and it surprisingly worked! i love larian for these details

[@ChiakiNanami736]

I was wondering about this, because, on the one hand, I want to keep Lae'zel, but on the other hand, Astarion's tantrum puts (un?)life in my veins XD

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Fought the GythInquis first, LaeZel left the group temporarly upset and waited for me to enter the Astral plane, got same dialogue and chose same answers (turned against Vlaakith, open your mind) and she was fine killing the whole Creche on the way back ^^ (didn't nuke it tho) And indeed the hidden Athletics rolls on the statues are sh#t

[@greetingsargonian]

i learned later that you can throw oil on them and they will work!

[@xignum]

Mine was similar, but very different. I killed the inquisitor but Lae'zel died in the process. I can't revive her and in the journal it says she left the party after turning on the party. So yeah she's just dead now, and nobody has anything to comment on the matter.

[@nguyentran7068]

Alternatively you can pickpocket the stone from the Kith'rak to go through the sealed door. Lae'zel will still side with you against the Inquisitor if you have enough approval with her, else its a 21 DC persuation check. After that you can nuke the place however you like

[@MooseMannequin]

haha, instead of fighting the inquisition I said noooouuuuu, ran away and collapsed the whole monastery on them. (inquisitor actually survives this and appears in the Emperor house later cheeky skva)

[@jescruz5465]

your dreamscape visiter is hilariously hideous XD

[@ryantaemaxsu9137]

I laughed so hard when I saw the hair do on the protector, lol

[@thormbus1826]

Thanks for the video it helped a lot. Fyi if you throw a grease bottle on the statue you dont need to pass a athletics check, it just turns.

[@greetingsargonian]

yeah i learned it later, this game is so great with all the mechanics, i love it!

[@Awumpa]

Hitting it with my sword also made it move

[@Nopee531]

Went into the crèche with good approval left with max 💀

[@Nilanius]

that dream visitor you picked for this. Hilarious!

[@I_urge_to_count]

Not me going through the entire crèche, slaughtering literally everyone because fuck this one particular crèche.

[@oreo-sr2pq]

Your fucking dream character is so fucking I CANT

[@dozrFAB]

Originally i just left lazel in camp before nuking the creche. She was also remarkably cool with me slaughtering every gith unprovoked in my second run. She was NOT happy when in my party and when i walked away from the prism after speaking to vlakith

[@chriskociolek1830]

Hottest Dwarf Ever

[@rafaelrigottocunha6826]

Wait… there’s a spot to place the token?… I, I had it and didn’t know it could be used for something, triggered the catastrophe beam and got full party disapproval and had to rush kill the turrets… omg I’m so dumb, I wish I had seen there was this lol

[@politecat9207]

The companions going "this idiot"

[@carlossantana4108]

You mentioned saving right before making the check to move the statue; but fun fact, if the statue gets stuck and you hit it with a weapon attack, it will "unstick" it so that you'll then be able to move it normally.

[@McPatMan124]

If you fail the check on the statue and it gets stuck, you can throw grease on it.

[@crowcorvinus3173]

You can only hit on it . I hit with my monk on the statue , it worked, i was surprised.

[@catalinbostan3542]

The Dream Visitor... You're one of those people,huh?

[@greetingsargonian]

i am a woman of culture, yes

[@mugendono23]

That's funny, I went full murder hobo on the creche and she still stayed. 😆

[@RychaardRyder]

M’lord Rainbow McSpacebuns

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

lol like your dream visitor.

[@BrofessorDG]

Awww your dream guardian

[@dorukhanozen2580]

Which path awards more EXP killing all Gith inside manuall or destroying the monastary via Blood of Lathander ?

[@adelia1841]

15:22 when i came to this place, where you can go to your camp, i just send everyone to camp except Wyll (who has insivibility spell) then turned back to the door where we killed the inquisitor, then made the insivibility spell for both of us and run away from creche :D that was easy

[@carlossantana4108]

Also, Shadowheart's mini-squeak at 19:49 XD

[@haukkru]

I carry several exploding barrels in cases like this 👀 position them then use when I get outside

[@greetingsargonian]

this is the way

[@crowcorvinus3173]

I was so happy, I AM HAPPY, to find this out for "myself". This makes one of the greatest "FLOW" in my gaming-historie ! It started with the 2 statue, one i could move, the other one i miss the "athletic-turn" . After many turns and tryings, i only hit with my monk at this statue and see it , IT WORKED !!!!! After the hidden wall was opened, my mouth doesnt stop to close :-) . i got the mace and close the cases . BUT, why your PALADIN looks indivdual ??? Does i miss something 😂😂

[@TheBenlueks]

ahhhhh ur dream person looks great!!!!

[@foolsanticsstudio]

Wait does taking the mace alwyas cause the weapon to fire? Cuz when I took it nothing happened

[@ericfeddeler]

Yo that guardian though hahaha

[@sigmamalegrindset132]

hahahahahah bro wtf is your guardian

[@greetingsargonian]

he is art

[@pjponciano5931]

Funniest guardian ever! 😂😂😂

[@madi5194]

so my character just keeps taking the blood of lathander in a cut scene, not triggering the explosion. am i doing something wrong? kinda wanted to see it happen lmao

[@greetingsargonian]

It may be bugged after the latest patch - multiple people wrote the same issue. Or something changed that I am not aware of. Or you might used the little Lathander thingy that allows you to take the mace without consequences. When I played, you needed just to take the mace without permission to trigger the cannon

[@mishiara5499]

Hahahahahahaha the look of your "guardian" is to funny

[@billyfunt61]

Shadowheart murdered Lae'zel in camp. Can this still be done?

[@politecat9207]

Yep, you just might have a harder time getting into the créche and etc without a gith on your side

[@OxiBluz]

That's why I used the metamorphosis spell, this thing is actually very good

[@juice6521]

Nah, you can just walk in the front door, we'll that's locked, so the side door, but once you're inside they don't care. I even murdered the Gith at the entrance to their base and just walked in.

[@elonwhatever]

me: "oops, that was entirely intentional"

[@sv575gg8]

Damn this quest is so fun…

[@msnhao]

Btw, u can destroy the energy source before stealing the mace

[@Pandaemoni]

Ypou cane just Misty Step out of the enegy cage aftre taking the moringstar, so no need to waste time destroying the energy source. Also, we basically aggroed everyone in the creche, trhen killed them, leveled up, THEN took the weapon...and Laezel was mad but didn't leave the group. Then we met Voss and she was open to his heresies after all of that.

[@NeyCup]

I used the draw master’s crest and the guns still didn’t activate for me any suggestions?

[@crissygale]

😂😂😂😂😂 dream guardian made my day

[@greetingsargonian]

he brings me joy too

[@elliemagnusson9637]

Where do you get a feather fall scroll?

[@greetingsargonian]

@@elliemagnusson9637 they can be found through the game, I just loot everything. Also check traders for them, I think the Grove one can have them if you are lucky. If you don't have the scroll, take Gale with you, he has that spell

[@VOX_Games]

on my last playthrough as we were approaching her people in act I, I went to camp to heal without realizing lae'zel went on without the party, she was perma dead the next morning, I don't load saves, but now the creche will pay.

[@greetingsargonian]

The worst creche experience for me was when Lae'zel turned against my party. This can happen if you let her speak to the inquisitor and attack him before going to the prism.

[@miguell272]

I couldnt fight after the plane visit. Had to get mace and the the portal to escape. Sad sad that i destroyed the creche...but i got a cool mace!❤ and lizard lady stayed with me despite me massacaring some of her people 💅

[@elliemagnusson9637]

How do you get the dreammasters crest?

[@greetingsargonian]

@@elliemagnusson9637 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIqWhZSlnZJmitksi=vrupr3rF5n_z53Kz this is how

[@Salty_Mike]

i didn't knew it was an option to loose her there. after nuking the creche

[@shadownk]

amazing! didn't know this is an option

[@markfrellips5633]

The athletic roll? Just throw or cast grease on the statue if it sticks

[@nkoehler337]

Just get the little crest thing from finding all the ritual weapons on the surface...

[@sagittariusa7662]

"Now you've come to murder me." No, I've come to cleanse the world of whatever the F you are.

[@ProBreakers]

Why didn’t the big laser go off after I grabbed the mace?

[@raianevieiral]

hmmm does this saves me the trouble of figthing them afterwards?

[@greetingsargonian]

Yeah everyone who is there will die. But then you'll miss the exp and loot

[@raianevieiral]

@@greetingsargonian oooh thanks! I'm trying to start the act 3 but these gith are so hard to beat (I'm dying more because of them than I've died to Ketheric), considering load to kill them like this

[@greetingsargonian]

@@raianevieiral you can kill them separately. As long as there are no eye witnesses of your attack, everyone else will become neutral when the fight ends. But either way, the cannon will do the deed)

[@cyberiankorninger1025]

Does anyone know if I can nuke the Creche after I already did everything and removed the Blood of Lathander safely? Guess it won't work anymore.

[@greetingsargonian]

no. the cannon turns only as a reaction to stealing the blood of lathander

[@SpicySpleen]

you made laezel a bard 🤣🤣🤣 beautiful

[@kidfunkyfri3308]

do you need dawnmasters crest for this?

[@greetingsargonian]

no, it allows you to take the mace, and tha cannon will not activate this way

[@Angel_on_dragon_paws]

where do you find the dawnmasters crest

[@greetingsargonian]

It was hidden behind one of the locked closets somewhere in the yard. It was 30 throw iirc

[@lordgong4980]

Its really easy to keep Lae zel and destroy the Crech.

[@IopuaauahiPapale]

ayo what up with that guardian

[@greetingsargonian]

He is beautiful

[@reubenroach8242]

Nothing happened for me my character just took the mace during the cutscene and nothing happened

[@dinonutz]

What happens if you nuke it before the big fight

[@espsir]

The Dream Visitor is the same as mine 😂

[@azazel166]

Are there consequences for killing everyone at the Creche?

[@TheWolfMan85]

Should I do this quest after or before moonrise?

[@un_nown4x4]

I’m not sure what happened but I didn’t get a scene when I got the mace, it just let me take it which makes the gun not activate

[@beccstah77]

just destroy the energy source before the event even begins

[@danielklein5762]

it´s way funnyer when Astarion dies there and gets revived thou. XD

[@pvansteenlandt4437]

Ain't getting any options to steal the mace, immediatly cutscene with no options, unable to continue