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[@rgr4475]

Matty, I have to say I have been struggling mentally lately with certain situations in my life. Some days are a struggle to get out of bed. I just found your channel this summer. You have motivated me to get back into golf and get out of the house. I haven't gotten any better but your videos always put a smile on my face and make me laugh. Neither which I do much anymore. I am golfing tomorrow and really looking forward to it. Thank you for the content. I hate social media but pretty amazing how you can positively affect some schmuck halfway around the world in the states.

[@GolfSidekick]

Hi Playa excellent. Keep on keeping on I understand I had similar the last couple years for months at a time including struggling to get out of bed. Some serious scheisse happening in life. I don't like when people recommend too much what 'helped them' because we are all different but I can safely say that reframing my brain has kept the bad juju away. I read REFRAME YOUR BRAIN by SCOTT ADAMS and I have hacked my brain from getting into those dark places for too long.

[@rgr4475]

@@GolfSidekick Thank you Matt, much appreciated.

[@Fortunaatp]

Keep going mate

[@Choubob]

This might be more valuable than getting better at golf!

[@GolfSidekick]

​@@Choubob Scott Adams books are immense. Reframing your views on everything is crazy powerful

[@timstawinoga7955]

This is the first time I have no clue what you are talking about. But I love your channel!

[@GlennShi-mw1cz]

This is the BEST content for golf. Took my first in person lesson, bought RedTiger range finder, my Who Can Toucan Bucket hat should be arriving soon. Almost game ready. Avoid the tuba on the course. Thanks Matt!

[@AncientAge_449]

My golf game is so much fun. Shot a 48 on the front, 1 over on the back. A wild round

[@thehairygolfer]

Having played all these years and played with many good golfers all the way down to a +4. There is one thing they do that really impresses me. It's not driving. It's not irons. It's not long putts holed. It's the ability to pitch from 40 yards from every position imaginable to 3 feet. The one thing you don't need to be tall, strong, fit, flexible or fast to do and we can all do if we put in the effort. It's also the one thing handicap golfers neglect, myself included.

[@GolfSidekick]

Playa if you've been around golf and gotten any wisdom in golf, it's clear. No lost balls Play inside your ability Assess the lie Aim for your shot shape AND CHIP AND PUTT YOUR LITTLE ARSE OFF!

[@duffer0309]

@@GolfSidekickThis!

[@marksimpson2321]

John Daly and Bill Bryson Dechsmpane were or are two of the longest drivers on tour and they won far fewer majors between them than Nick Faldo and Gary Playya.

[@ohwowthatsgood]

@@marksimpson2321 lol. what a dumb comparison

[@seth1455]

@@marksimpson2321 Bill Bryson writes a good book to be fair

[@charlied4850]

My takeaway from this video - Strokes Gained stats are totally useless to us recreational golfers. Just follow Matty’s course strategy for game improvement.

[@GolfSidekick]

BOOM BOOM SHAKE THE ROOM

[@brockevans1558]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that is completely lost when anyone starts talking about strokes gained and lost.

[@francoisdesmoulins-lebeaul4273]

Your loss... Read the book. It was written by a recreational golfer in order to improve with the least amount of effort.

[@GolfSidekick]

Francois here getting all sorts of triggered because his religion is coming into question

[@nathaniverson6828]

totally agree. I love his videos however I think strokes gained is the secret for alot of single digits to get to scratch. The prob is a lot of people don’t understand strokes gained and take low percentage shots to hit it further.

[@logantrotter3180]

By far my favorite golf channel. So much information provided, yet you keep it simple to understand.

[@GolfSidekick]

They call me the BOAT best of all time

[@TBlakeNewport]

I am all over the playa immediately after he drops a vid. Why? I’m confidential.

[@ThatBlokeonYoutube]

Get in there boyfriend 🎉

[@GolfSidekick]

Good thinking playa Waddalife and wadda confidentiality

[@scotlandinvestor7779]

Get ur own patter fs

[@williamsymes2446]

I feel my stress levels decrease and my confidentiality levels increase with every new Matty boom boom video

[@troymaddox8464]

Hey Matt, I know you're not a believer in the whole 'strokes gained' approach, but Arccos calculates it automatically. I got fitted for some Ping clubs when the G425s came out a few years ago. They came with integrated sensors and a free trial of the software. I like it for the automatic shot tracking, learning my distances / club, and also tips on where I should focus practice time. Maybe reach out to them and see if they want to provide you some sensors to screw into your existing grips and you can use it for more content. You could review it and also get some insight into the strokes gained for your game. I am not playing the G425s anymore, I'm playing Takomo 101s (love them!). I came to rely on the Arccos, so I am a paid subscriber now and am using the screw-in sensors on my grips. It works well on my iPhone and Apple Watch combo.

[@GolfSidekick]

I like what you said. You came to rely on them. Anything that gives you confidentiality is good.

[@stevea7070]

Without a doubt the best golf channel on youtube !!

[@plugg4r]

Matty, thanks for your channel, as a Golfer who first took up the clubs in late March, your advice and ego checks have been wonderful. Played my affiliate course's Monthly Medal on the weekend after coming last the previous two times with 132 and 126 shots on stroke with my 36 handicap. I had 103 on the weekend and most of the reasons were from your advice on course management, which kept my shots down but also kept the evil thoughts out of my head of launching my 60 degree to the neighbouring town. GIOTG and the Rule of 12 have helped me come a fair way and the 60 degree hasn't left the bag in a month.

[@bobbycampbell3263]

Big Matty the swing is looking great playa. Another great video! Thank you for continuing to produce the truly helpful golf content

[@michaelswisher8630]

As soon as I saw "strokes gained" my eyes glazed over and I went into a golf coma.

[@seth1455]

good, not just me then

[@adamlee1821]

Like it that you are incorporating strokes gained. It’s complicated, but I’ve found it helpful, especially tempering my expectations and helping me understand the difference between a kind bad shot (like a not long but mostly straight tee shot) and a really bad shot (like leaving a wedge 35 yards away when you’re at 100).

[@markmiller6317]

Had to say thx. Had a hole in one today. Used a tip from you on the tee And broke 80 Had a day. The spirit of the playa was with me today Thx again

[@sinatabrizi4794]

Videos every few days man nobody on KZbin works as hard as Matty to bring us the goods

[@Maydoggie]

Played 9 holes today, and was hitting and scoring poorly. BUT, I improved quite a bit in avoiding the mental death spiral. I could hear you in my head, Matt. So after each poor shot, I just focused on the next, forgetting the previous shot. And I started looking for positives. I had 18 putts in 9 holes, which was a big improvement over the last few rounds. And I improved my pre-shot routine by checking my footing and my clubface alignment. I've been setting up wrong for so long that setting up properly feels awkward. But the results are wonderful.

[@globugolf]

great vid mate!

[@krispybowgod9656]

The amount of idiots online who get mad when I tell them I track my fringes as “gir” or a “putt” is insane. Like brother…. I got here in the right amount of strokes, I’m using my putter, and I just 2 putted for par why would I not track that as a GIR?

[@GolfSidekick]

Yeah people think they out there on the tour. I track it exactly the same as you

[@bradlamb8078]

This video proves just how good Matt really is, absolutely phenominal from the main playya 👍🏻

[@BillPigg]

*I LOVE GOLF SIDEKICK !!*

[@jeremyringma]

I love Matt having golf stat conversations with the caddies. They give zero fucks, but they still smile and laugh at him.

[@kevinfay4062]

That stat that seems least useful for me is when the PGA broadcast puts up "percentage made from x feet = x percent." There's no way to take into account uphill, downhill, left/right. Give me a straight uphill putt any day of the week... I really like the way you simplify it and make course management key. Playa of playas!

[@GolfSidekick]

Precisely playa. For putting we only have pga tour starts that are actually accurate. Nothing really for amateurs because the tech is not accurate. But could we say that for us amateurs a nice 6 footer up hill is gonna be more makeable than a downhill 6 footer with 3 inches of break? YES INDEED! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqrYcmOYm7GBac0si=c8QEW5GUnqi9UjKX

[@keithstevens8749]

I understood exactly 0% of what you were talking about, and I still enjoyed the video.

[@viebusiness3530]

Every single video teaches me so much. I am going to the junior world championship and this video is really helpful. Thank you so much for the amazing videos. Way of the playa!

[@GolfSidekick]

Nice playa, good luck! Let us know how it goes. Keep that Stimp hand Strong and put the pitches in their place

[@cadehowell9130]

You help me out a ton thanks Mattie boom boom

[@jdgoettee9472]

Matty Boomboom is content king! Brody invented SG for the PGA Tour commentators and even they have problems working it into their patter. My head hurts from all the info you jammed into one video. You have thoroughly convinced me to leave strokes gained and Mark Brody’s book on the shelf, at home. I don’t have a team of people analyzing all of my shots before going out to try and make a cut on Friday, on a manicured course. I’m sticking with the Playa in Chief’s How to Break X0 methodologies. I can not stay up all night before a round printing out the charts to tell me what my drive and approach distances must be, for 0 strokes gained. Well done Matt!!

[@GolfSidekick]

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[@francoisdesmoulins-lebeaul4273]

Brodie invented SG for himself (a 6 hcp at the time) to know what to work on in the limited time a math/finance professor has. Anyone with brains can now use the same information not to "play a certain way" but identify what they're not doing as well as the average of players of a certain handicap (SG is not just against PGA tour) and understand where the score is being made. Idiots and entertainers on TV or the interwebs may not get it, but it's a godsend for every player, of every level... provided they use it as it should. It should be fairly obvious that you're more likely to make a putt if it's shorter rather than longer. It's more likely that your ball ends closer to the hole if you play it from a closer location, and you get to a closer location if you driver long (and in play). Quantifying that and seeing how it works respective to your game is what SG gives... Read the book.

[@GolfSidekick]

Here’s the best part about strokes gained. Your app tells you what to work on. But doesn’t tell you how. So you just end up going for lessons. Here’s a way to skip all this wankery. Go for lessons. And practice. No matter what your app tells you, you are gonna have to do those two things. SG on the app tells you youre weak in these areas: Driving: practice driving. Approach: practice irons. Chipping: practice chipping. Putting: practice putting. Deep. Only idiots and entertainers on KZbin will tell you this: Idiotic strokes gained by KZbinr idiot: These are very obvious you don’t need to have sensors to tell you. If you’re 3 putting more than one per round, work on speed control putting to a tee in the ground. Minimum one hour per week. If you’re three putting or missing short putts, or both, practice 1 foot putts. Make 100 in a row three days a week. If you’re losing balls off the tee, take the driver out the bag and go for a lesson. Begin to understand your distance and shot shape so you can aim better to avoid losing balls. If you need distance, Go for a lesson. Don’t buy a new driver yet. If your approach play suck’s and you not hitting greens, maybe it’s your bad drive. Pick a tee club that gets you in play. 200 yards is plenty until you learn the driver at lessons. Then learn to aim properly. Account for your shot shape. Aim to something left if you fade. Something right if you draw. Do this approach. Identify the short side and hit the ball to the fat side. That will improve where your finish in relation to the green, for chipping and putting and pitching. Avoid the short side. Work on toe down chipping. Try chip to inside 6 feet and increase your chance of up and down to 50% or more by doing that. Practice your short game three hours for every hour on long game. Visualize. Create a pre shot routine that is consistent. You get these religious zealots who get very nasty because they know they’ve been sold a bill of rotten goods with this strokes gained nonsense. All they had to do was take lessons

[@fireball6d641]

Matty I wanted to give you a quick shout out. Your channel is excellent, I watch it all the time. You know that song you play when you make a birdie putt? I start humming that when I'm lining up a birdie putt on the course. Makes me more confidential!

[@azharsyarawi]

I have no idea what you said Matty Boom Boom. I only remembered your point getting 5 on a par 5 is good

[@AJPinto-YOYO]

Playa-d a decent round today. Used the rule of the plan. for every hole I kept to my plan to shoot to a conservative target, I resulted in a par or bogey. For every hole I deviated and pulled out driver (when driver wasn't in my plan) bogey or double. 😞. Unfortunately 3 putted on three holes. Work in progress.

[@socitysav09]

I just started seeing your videos. Great stuff I enjoy your content! What country are you playing in?

[@GolfSidekick]

thailand

[@BlueDragonKorea]

I like the comparison between what distance you have to be in the fairway vs the rough, but I think it would have been helpful to also see what would have happened if you took the shorter club but still missed the fairway. As an example, the comparison at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="960">16:00</a> is 170 in the rough vs 190 in the fairway, what would have happened in terms of strokes gained if you planned to be 190 in the fairway but still missed it? You mention at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="868">14:28</a> that your tee shot caused you to blow up, so I think having more discussion around why shorter clubs is not the same as the safer/better strokes gained plan is worthwhile.

[@brascal13]

I'm having anxiety flashbacks of school, trying to read all the stats before the teacher erased the board. I've been doing quite well visualizing the goal posts.

[@somerandomguy706]

That shot at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="980">16:20</a> is crazy good.

[@BigD1957]

50 years from now this video will be used to instruct AI golfing bots how to think like humans. It will absolutely revolutionize the consequentiality of human evolution. I am confidential of that.

[@MickR0sco]

I think distance hurts high handicappers. I can hit somewhere in the region of matty not quite as far but rarely well. If i balls it up im just absolutely in a different postcode. I still do it cos i enjoy slamming a ball every now and then and rolling the dice but i certainly score better when i leave the big guns in the bag

[@markwalters7498]

Bogey golf and seeing the bar cart at least 3 times per round equals a good day IMHO.

[@dave6012]

I have no idea what any of this means but I believe you when you say it’s 34 inches.

[@skizzot91r]

I didn't understand any of this but i liked it!

[@timstawinoga7955]

Yeah, same here!

[@OhCanadaMoose]

Whadda vid playa. Enjoyed this one. Question for you - did you always hit as long as you do or is this something that came later? When i flush my shots correctly im 110 w PW, 123 9i, 135 8i, 145 7i, 155 6i, 190 7w, 205 5w, 220 3w, 250 driver. I can play fine with this but i wonder why im not longer when i feel like im doing everything right

[@JL-qf3hq]

I’ve come to realize tour stats can be very misleading, as they represent average tour performance in tour conditions eg. ice-level slick greens. I’ve read somewhere a tour pro is expected to shoot -8 to -12 on their home course in normal conditions, way beyond scratch level. Regardless the stats do expose amateur’s unreasonable expectations and the same stats can help an amateur towards becoming scratch.

[@ToddPlaysGolf]

Walking over your own line!! +3.5 shots per hole! 😊

[@GolfSidekick]

lol lol strokes gained wanking watching rgc psige springnac +10

[@jcoleman924]

What app uses the east/west yardage of the fairway? I use Grint and it doesn't do it.

[@jon-michael4134]

Texas confidentiality yehawwww 🤠

[@somerandomguy706]

CSB; 3 guys offered straight up $20/hole not knowing my game when I joined up on the back 9 today. I proceeded to shoot a 33 on that side (73 total). No, I didn't accept any money.

[@jackiemoon_lms]

Where can we get a copy of the data you are using? Would love to use this to plot my way around the course as a 3 handicap. Thanks BAUS!

[@Murphmonster69]

Even for pros strokes gained is a skewed number that rarely paints an accurate picture.

[@triple_bourbon]

Time for church with the honorable reverend Matty Boom Boom. Haven’t even clicked play yet and already choosing conservative shots and cocky swings.

[@GolfSidekick]

Then you understand Strokes Gained Tiger Woods style immediately maboi. No need to watch. Back to rest and relaxation

[@user-di7dm6js8s]

Do you use a 3 wood? Also, trying to decide what to put in my bag. I can’t decide if I need to drop my 3 wood and go with a 5 wood and same with my hybrid.

[@goldtigre4979]

How do you strike your irons so consistently? I am impressed. Feels like every time I try and swing easy the ball is heeled and goes six feet, but every time it’s a hard swing i toe it 6 feet the other way

[@GolfSidekick]

Learned to hit them on the beach when i was 13

[@golflre7179]

Ty, very interesting, did you tally up your overall SG? Nice analysis at the end. Get to the root cause. My game hinges on my driver, getting better at short game reduces the damage caused by my errant drives, but my root cause is to get more accurate with driver, not necessarily longer.

[@GolfSidekick]

Nah, I don't really care much for the strokes gained. I like the expecttion management xxx distance off the tee is 0 strokes gained to a scratch PGA Tour putting percentages water -1.5 ob -2.0 fairway bunker -0.5 rough -0.25 +20 yards +0.1 in the trees +1.0 xx feet Proximity to the hole from every distance 0 strokes gained to a scratch shows you what is a good shot vs what you expect is a good shot

[@golflre7179]

@@GolfSidekick Excellent points. Thx for doing the video.

[@jakeheez]

If every 20 yards off the tee is -0.1 strokes, and a drive in the rough is +0.25 strokes, would it be accurate to say a drive in the fairway is equivalent to a drive 50 yards further in the rough, not 25? or are percentage numbers from fairway/rough to green more relevant for the comparison?

[@rebellord5288]

You are the Baus

[@Weshopwizard]

I understand the argument for this stuff as it applies to pro golfers but I’m not convinced this applies to average golfers. Pros is an apples to apples comparison. However, I used shot by shot (using strikes gained) and it was good at showing specific areas where I’m killing my scores.

[@Toaster-v1z]

You don't have to compare to a tour pro. If your handicap is 25, you can compare to a 20 handicap to see where you are losing or gaining strokes. Then you know where it is easiest to improve your game.

[@GolfSidekick]

Let’s say your app tells you that you need to work on ‘approach’ or ‘driving’ because you lose the most strokes to a 20 handicap. For a 25 handicap who has limited knowledge, how would they do that? Smash buckets of balls at the range trying to add distance? Do they know that for every 10 yards added, an increase of 5% dispersion makes the new distance not worth it? Maybe buy a new driver? Lets say it’s a 14 handicap comparing with a 10. The 14 handicap is ‘losing strokes gained’ to a 10 in putting. What does he do to get better? Practice? Do we need an app to tell us that we should not three putt 5 times a round? All roads, regardless of handicap lead to the solution which you could do without getting involved with strokes gained: LESSONS. Either that, or a new driver. No one really needs an app to tell them to go get lessons and practices

[@thornwivans]

This post is money!

[@thelammas8283]

I don’t understand the perceived conflict. There are a number of things you need to do to be scratch, amongst them hit the ball a long way AND manage the course.

[@GolfSidekick]

Don’t create conflict in your mind

[@starks1974]

I always count putts when I'm using my putter, not on the green, as I'm doing a putt stroke. What does it matter if you're a foot off the green.

[@jeffreyhawkes]

Great content. Love your approach to the game. You need to buy a new glove. Pretty worn out. Might gain .0145 strokes with new quality leather on the left hand

[@Duneadaim]

"Hero shots are for chumps and idiots." -Jack Nicholson

[@GolfSidekick]

And dingleberries

[@luminalarc887]

gaining negative strokes is also called losing strokes...

[@duffer0309]

LOL I just had almost exactly the same exchange with someone that wanted to see their strokes gained split between a good front 9 and a bad back 9. One of the points I also made with him is strokes gained stats for a round are really not that helpful. Everyone is going to have their share of great and bad shots during a round. It takes more than 10 rounds to see if the mistakes and great shots are happening in the same areas.

[@GolfSidekick]

Yes sir and then when you know your StRoKeS GaInEd in the app like arccos or shotscope...what is their suggestion to imrpove that area? Do they give any helpful suggestions? Everything leads to.....LESSONS. Because as far as I can see, there is an easy way to skip Strokes Gained in an app altogether. Get lessons and then you don't need to have a sensor tell you that your chipping sucks and you're losing 6 balls a round off the tee. LOL I could have told anyone that for free

[@duffer0309]

@@GolfSidekick you know I don’t look at strokes gained. But I do religiously look at the data behind strokes gained. My GIR% and proximity to the hole by distance category and my distance to the hole on short game and up/down%. I’ve improved my 25-50 yard short game dramatically with a couple of drills I do.

[@GolfSidekick]

I also know that you are an anomaly. You really do get It and use data being the percentages. Your the ultimate strokes gained Target and you use it wisely. Love chatting to you on Facebook

[@bultmagl]

@@GolfSidekick The biggest problems the tracking apps face is that they just tally your averages. Anyone who's studied probability and statistics knows that you can't characterize a process (golf swing) using just a single parameter. You need to know the shape of the distribution. My average SG driving to a scratch golfer is roughly 0. However, if you actually take a deep dive and look at the distribution instead of just the average, you'll see it's bimodal. I still need to work on my driving (or course management) because about 10-20% of the time I'll hit a gawd awful drive into Narnia. So, strokes gained tells me my drives are good, on average. But they're not really.

[@bultmagl]

well, that and GIGO is a real thing....

[@corey3145]

I don't care about Strokes Gained, what I want to see is the data on Shirts Gained. If I wore a different WaddaPlaya shirt on each hole, would the birdie music be on loop???

[@justinmoore598]

Matty what golf app do you use?

[@trainedtiger]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="808">13:28</a>, Imagine if that was your visualization on a tee shot. OOF, such a breeding ground for bad swing thoughts.

[@soloist2001]

wow theres no way i'd ever even begin to care about all this calculation...my goal is hit it as far as i can into play and pray for limited 3 putts

[@FFFSOSS]

Head Playa, you had to interact/deal with with some dingus at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="720">12:00</a>. I've worked a lot on mindset, expectation & attitude adjustments with your help but how do you work it out when outside factors like that dingus interfere with your headspace?? I find myself saying the same things you were saying to yourself in that moment. "I'm rushing." "I had to rush." Anything you do specifically to reset when that happens??

[@GolfSidekick]

Hmmm that situation i was luckily in my comfort zone at that distance with that wedge or 9 iron. So it was easy. But if it were less comfy like a tight tee shot on a long par 4, i just gear down to the go to club of the go to club. Just something im automatic with. Then i get some space after that shot to collect myself. Bitch and moan for a good 2 minute walk then boom back in the process. It’s over. Any repurcussion must be dealt with by the course since it’s their issue. Back in the process. The next hole, i had to stick with the scratch length tee shot. But i wanted to hit a big driver. I took that annoyed energy and stuck it into committing to the big driver mentally. Thats why i hit that mini driver so bad. If i hit the big driver, that hole finishes with a par. Then by the next hole, i was playing normal again forgot about that guy.

[@FFFSOSS]

@@GolfSidekick Love that, allow the moaning for a bit then back to the process. Thank you sir!!

[@trainedtiger]

Stat tracking has gone off the deep end. I have always been about keeping track of fairways hit/miss direction, GIR/miss direction, scrambling%, putts per GIR, and penalty strokes per hole. But, Strokes gained is just too much under the microscope to get the real benefits of information for game improvement in my opinion.

[@efj3897]

Because you’re the baus of all bauses I followed your advice in a prior video about going out alone and playing. Given what happened in this video, what’s the “cutting in” etiquette when by yourself?

[@GolfSidekick]

I was on the par 3, about the 6th hoel or something, dude tees up on the hole, hits 3 balls in the water, i'm like WTF. I got 4 people behind me. If he wanted to cut in, he should have cut in on hole 9 or start on 10. Usually it's just common sense. If you're gonna be slow, wait at a par 3 to let people through. If you're gonna be quick, skip 2 holes ahead of a 2 ball, 1 hole ahead of a 4 ball

[@BennieBoi9]

What software you using?

[@GolfSidekick]

Shot Pattern?

[@vinkuu]

Damn, four bots in front of a human to react. KZbin has a bot problem. Or the whole of the Internet has the same problem.

[@GolfSidekick]

Yeah for real bro, what is going on - thots talking politics as bots lol

[@MAN_vs_GOLF]

At the <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="332">5:32</a> mark in the video, did someone shank a ball across the green you were on from another hole?

[@GolfSidekick]

Butterfly. This time of year there are a lot

[@danleespencer]

*Warning: Contains Sexual Behaviour*

[@martinbyatt]

Stinky Pong Pong Big Time...!!! 😄

[@ohwowthatsgood]

How many hotdogs do you have to feed those caddies during a round?

[@efj3897]

To much mathski for me, but it seems like the SG calculation doesn’t differentiate between a scratch golfer and a PGAT pro? If I’m correct(and I may not be) it seems wrong bc a PGAT pro is likely a +6 or lower.

[@GolfSidekick]

There is a lot of data not available Putting: innacurate because GPS is not accurate enough to the yard/foot/inch and people are supposed to edit their rounds in the dashbord from memory to insert their putts. Only PGA Tour is accurate and close enough to scratch putting too. Approaches: Number of strokes taken from every distances in the fairway and rough are only available for PGA Tour golfers. Gotta patch it together best we can with the poor data that is out there

[@seth1455]

I like watching you play golf but I understood none of that. Never mind, onwards we go 😁

[@jays699]

genuine question - there is data from apps like shotscope with 1000s of players showing 20+ hdcp have a lower average score going for par 5s in 2 compared to those that layup to distances. is there bias in this that you see?

[@GolfSidekick]

Where is the raw data? Everyone quotes this but no one has access to the raw data. The individual course’s and holes and player profiles. Which courses? What do those holes look like? Is it links? Parkland? Municipal? Manicured? Resort? Florida? Midwest? Jungle? Tight? Generous? Hilly? Flat? Blind shots? ‘20+ handicaps going for par 5 in two?’ - let’s just allow that to sit inside our heads for a bit. 450 yards. 20+ handicap. 220 yard drive with a 10 degree driver. They don’t hit it long and straight but let’s give them 220 yards which generous. Dispersion will be 50 yards left or right at any time. No guarantee of a straight shot at such low loft. 18° or more will give much less dispersion. 230-240 remaining best case scenario. They hit a low lofted 15 degree 3 wood maybe. Off the ground, how far left and right does shot that go? How long does a 20+ handicap hit that club reliably? 190? Not a high percentage of 20+ handicaps should have it in their bag but they try anyway because of the data, so let’s assume it’s 2 perfect strikes on both shots with 10 degrees of loft and 15 degrees of loft. What is the design of the hole? What happens at 50 yards? Are there bunkers? Fairway bunkers from 50 yards for high handicaps the hole is over. Does the remaining shot finish on a downslope? Is it a raised green? Can they hit partial wedges to raised greens? Does the rough pinch in the fairway? If they top the shot with a three wood, what is in front of them? Are they proficient with a 50 yard partial shot if they get the best case scenario? How often are playing? Do they have situational awareness for the lie? Can they read the lie in the rough on the third shot? So many factors. Lets just say, 20+ handicaps going for par 5 in two is ridiculous on the face of it. Blanket statements do not work in golf. They usually try to hit two perfect high pressure shots because of these stupid blanket statements from the data pole and destroy the score. Accepting that a bogey is a SUPERB score on the par 5 and playing it as a par 6 or par 7 is much more effective. We are trying to reduce big numbers, not trying to make birdies. When 20+ handicap tries to play like a pro, that’s when they stay at 20+ handicap.

[@jays699]

@@GolfSidekick thanks for the reply. i've had more success following your advice personally, but always wonder where gaps could be in the knowledge. (i'm a 12 hdcp that can't hit a 3 wood off the deck, so I don't!)

[@stephenblack6615]

“I make it or I don’t “ Simple. If I make it, I gain a stroke. If I don’t, I lose a stroke. WHO are these scratch golfers I’m playing against?

[@GolfSidekick]

Exactly

[@Ckuo13]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="208">3:28</a> who the hell is this guy with this odd hat?

[@keithmoule4154]

I am struggling to understand what a "nipple-licker" (minute 18.27) is. I can't find the term anywhere in Jack Nicholson's book and Sam Knead doesn't refer to it either....

[@Gunner93_og]

Lol at the pile of papers you have to carry around to play according to strokes gained

[@GolfSidekick]

Bro legit 10 pages

[@Gunner93_og]

@@GolfSidekick 😂😂😂

[@robertfoy8480]

surely no-one does that though, do they? SG helps you average out your strengths and weaknesses over many rounds easily, but it isn’t going to help you with course strategy during a round. For example, I’ve worked on chipping a lot more than putting recently because it turns out my putting is generally stronger on average.

[@bobzielinski3823]

Yeah!!! Sex-Shuahl ENERGY!!! Love it.

[@desr2395]

This is the baloney that is supposed to make me better than “keep the ball in play, hit the shots you can hit, and play to your favorite distancés?” Yeah, the stat and data people can keep touching themselves over gaining .02848 strokes for nonsense. Just saying, I have seen a pro, I currently carry a 7i, PW, SW, and putter. I have been consistently in last place with my usual group, but I have been shaving huge chunks of strokes every round while they continue to use their full bag, get pissed when they slice it into the woods, and wonder how they have made no progress in the past two golf seasons. WOTP

[@jjferreira5752]

Does your wrist hurt or does that thing on your wrist hurt babe

[@GolfSidekick]

lol I hurt it in the gym in December and it hurt now when i started learning tennis. The tennis has actually strengthened the wrist to the point i don’t need the guard anymore.

[@shawnlane3264]

Do a Whats In the Bag video, playa...

[@GolfSidekick]

Friday or Sunday playa Filming it tomorrow

[@mrbluemancheese]

Hit it low, it will never go. Hit it high, at least you tried.

[@berrberr]

I love clowning on the strokes gained maximists. Most of them don't have any background or knowledge in pure mathematics. IMO using the entire population of all scratch golfers as a sample size for all the strokes gained stats is total nonsense. Garbage in, garbage out. No 2 shots, courses, lies, players, etc. in golf are the same. Not to mention that the "data" from Across self selects for people who actually bother to use their product. No bias there at all 😂 SG maxi counterpoint: "but there is so much data". So what? The amount of data actually has no bearing on the quality of a model. If there is garbage data with biases then it would make it worse. Also, more distance = better strike. The STRIKE is the key part to good golf, not the distance. Distance is the byproduct. Of course people who hit it longer (over a large population of data as SG does) will score better. Because they are able to strike the ball! How is that revolutionary or useful info?

[@duffer0309]

Wow … you say it better than I can!

[@GolfSidekick]

Bro stop talking dirty to me!!! Most people who claim to be strokes gained maxis don't even use the information anyway. They repeat some line they read somewhere like that "literally millions of data points literally" But when I played golf in Scotland on the links courses in the wind...that's when Strokes Gained made a lot of sense to me. It's for wide American Tour courses, for people playing the same course, four days in a row, against people with very tight skill variations, on courses selected for TV. For the average man? Just get some lessons, get a better impact position and strike. The ball goes straighter and knock on effect, distanc eincreases because of the STRIKE. Also putting stats are all hogwash on those arccos and shotscope, because no GPS is accurate enough to pick it up. And then you rely on people actually editing every round to inch-accuracy. Impossiblé as the spanish say Wait for my 10 DUMBEST THINGS GOLFERS SAY VIDEO coming soon. You will like it.

[@efj3897]

@@GolfSidekick The #1 entry would be any sentence that starts with “Let me show you this swing tip I saw on You Tube…”

[@efj3897]

@@berrberr Yes! It’s amazing how many people don’t understand the concept of “Correlation does not imply causation”