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[@koaboyy]

yo joe what size elitefts bands should i buy for reverse hack squats? pro light, pro average or pro strong??

[@HypertrophyCoach]

Mine! (The red ones) www.hypertrophycoach.com/products/

[@DavvidT]

@@HypertrophyCoach nice plug 😂😂

[@slavaukrainitv2716]

@@HypertrophyCoach would you say shoulder presses are mandatory even if they mainly train the front delts? Wouldn't it be better to do just an isolation exercise which is less taxing on the joint and central nervous system?

[@DavideGalic]

You‘re not gonna die from doing shoulder presses

[@nazmulhaque1308]

Rest in peace John Meadows

[@Msreesaranyan]

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[@bobnoxious719]

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[@adityajat2411]

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[@rahultech2177]

@@Msreesaranyan Good to see an South Indian here ... !

[@Msreesaranyan]

@@rahultech2177 Yo homie 🤝❤️

[@kronk5072]

Great tips! That first tip in particular is something I have rarely thought about, but it makes a lot of sense to implement.

[@martieboy01]

I want to thank you for all your videos. I use a lot of your excercices and tips on form

[@steveblah5]

Just started using the high incline shoulder press for this meso. Feels great, more ROM and no more discomfort aka long term pathology. The stardard 90 degree press may involve the side / posterior heads more but there are better options

[@johnouellet4099]

Really great video. Lots of great points here I’m gonna try this out.

[@coach_romanski]

Amazing video as always

[@ian710]

Thanks for your time and content

[@johnspartan9839]

I've avoided seated militaries for years because of my ignorance. The information here provided by da' coach (sorry coach Ditka) has allowed me to comfortably return to my beloved seated presses! Tanx JB😎

[@tonymoss4728]

Thanks again for the quality content. If you have a minute, what do you think about Lu raises. Are they safe?

[@KenanTurkiye]

Alright excited, lets see what we learn. 👍

[@michaelkovach4445]

Great tips, will definitely implement these in the next shoulder session~

[@jacob1031]

My guy smooth as hell with the outros

[@gangstaxflirty2338]

Appreciated 💞

[@AdamScottfit]

Another amazing video Joe. This always made the most sense to protect the elbow and shoulder joint. Again, I noticed an open thumb grip. Do you recommend that for pushing exercises? If so, why? Thanks in advance!

[@russellhenckel2887]

Check out Jeff nippard’s video on this. Front delta are the primary muscle being used but the side a rear delts still get good activation

[@AdamScottfit]

@@russellhenckel2887 appreciate that. I've seen that yeah 👌

[@reygunz3059]

"Pressing with a 90 degree or more angle will crunch and mash things. Even if it doesn't feel painful at first, it will eventually in the long term, and injuries will ensure." Citation desperately needed.

[@HypertrophyCoach]

First off. That’s not how quotes work. When you use “ “ you need to put in exactly what I said. So do that first, then I’m happy to discuss what I said.

[@reygunz3059]

@@HypertrophyCoach You're correct that I didn't use quotation marks correctly. It was my, perhaps lazy, way of trying to summarize your thoughts presented in the video. I apologize if I have misrepresented your understanding. If you would like to take this opportunity to correct me and make clear your thoughts, I am listening.

[@miguel_chain]

Just take any kinesiology, Anatomy or biomechanichs text book and you get your answer. This kind of information is just the basics. Of course, a person with Pro Weightlifting or Pro Gymnastics scapular mobility level will be fine even in the 90 degrees... but these people are what? Less than 0.5% of people in the gym? They are exception. The vast majority people will benefit with this tip.

[@abuaqeedah4893]

That’s a nice gym.

[@lacticaddictluke]

I have this exact movement today, what’s your opinion on a reverse band that comes into tension 1/2 way through ROM to remove pressure on shoulders as you approach the chest

[@younglee732000]

thank you

[@DavidPerez-ef6nd]

Subtítulos en español, por favor 🙏🙏 gracias por tan buen contenido 💪👏

[@davidhodgson580]

Did you train Dallas ? Love the channel man , great tips 🙏

[@martieboy01]

Matt Jansen trained Dallas

[@patrickjulius7352]

does everything you said about the upright bench also apply to any standing variation of shoulder pressing too? best to avoid for long-term joint health?

[@Szumquadrat]

Thx 🙏

[@YahikoTG]

Good video ! Im a big believer on what you said about the 90* press , can you make a video on adductor ? I search on your KZbin but didn’t see any video specifically on adductor ( inner leg )

[@joojotin]

Do the adductor machine or sumo anything usually hits adductors well👍

[@yeeyee1690]

The adductor machine hurts my groin area so much,it is an intense pain.If you can do it however it works the adductors well.

[@joojotin]

@@yeeyee1690 oh yeah thats true, it can be risky, I have pain too but if I Chang emy positioning a little bit that helps. But I dont personally see need to adductors, also its really annoying when you walk a long time if you have too big adductors..

[@spuZDK]

is it a bad idea to reverse band the shoulder smith press?

[@asdasd-om4um]

I need subtitles I'm enjoying the video in Korea

[@NeverFollowTheCrowd]

Should I Band the smith machine when doing shoulder press ?

[@Thebravemovement]

I’m glad you made this video because a LARGE majority of people do shoulder pressing because they believe it mainly works the MEDIAL DELT… which it clearly does not… I have also never seen anyone who works out regularly that has under developed front DELTS. I would argue that most people have over developed front DELTS and undeveloped rear delts. (Not bodybuilders, average gym goers) Your thoughts, Joe?

[@letsgobrandon4871]

You need Joe’s thoughts on that? There’s a reason front delts are more developed on average gym goers…average gym goers bench press more often than most other workouts besides maybe curls. Most people have no idea what they’re doing when it comes to training shoulders. The form I see on 90% of lateral raises are so bad and probably hit front delta more than medial

[@joojotin]

Totally agree

[@joojotin]

@@letsgobrandon4871 its actually quite hard to not hit side delts with laterals imo. Even front raises work side delts well if you turn the dumbbel side ways as we normally do. Cheating is another thing tho.

[@arturnorge6875]

Would you recommend going all the way down?

[@ericm.6732]

What about activation of the side delt?

[@jeelani5530]

❤for🇮🇳 coach💪

[@benjaminflick6675]

Let the Delts Grow!

[@ditiallaqi3379]

What do you think about standing BB Over Head Press? I mean yeah there is no seat so there may be others muscles Limit it but there is also more ROM like almost 180°

[@steveblah5]

The way I learned to perform the OHP was to use a slight arch in your spine to initiate the press, returning to an upright position as you push "your head through the window". The seated high incline variation may sacrifice a bit of ROM but you're still in the frontal plane and eliminating body english with back braced against the bench.

[@gabrielemazzoli]

It doesn't align optimally with front delt's fibers, puts too much stress on joints and tension on other muscles that are not the ones we want to work with that exercise. And last, it's not in the scapular plane so limits the scapular rotation.

[@naskrajuciszy]

Whad do you think about building shoulders using only chest pressing and side lateral variations?

[@DanielCarlson]

Need rear delts too

[@JamesMontfordFit]

why would you not want to press?

[@justincain2702]

​@@JamesMontfordFit Because front delt already gets hit hard from bench

[@JamesMontfordFit]

@@justincain2702 i wouldn’t say it’s sufficient enough to lack an ohp, depending on ur strengths & weaknesses of course, but IMO most people would benefit from an ohp

[@gavinmoras6557]

I am just looking at this video but watching Ruffin train just reminds me of medows 😓😓😓

[@jediknight1209]

Thanks for all of your advice I have paid for 1 years training on your website .....it's been amazing I'm on week 5 of 6 on armagedon the addition of the Leg pump workout on week 5 has really made me walk funny! Anyway what do I do once I finish a program just start another one?

[@jackhogan5290]

Is there a reason you guys aren’t reverse banding this movement?

[@joojotin]

I dont see any reason to do it. Do you?

[@eagleelisei]

Wouldn’t the 80 degree version involve less medial delts than the 90 degree version?

[@agnishray5702]

He says it's for front delt 1:04

[@eagleelisei]

@@agnishray5702 Yeah..but for round delts I would argue that the medial head would be much more important than the front delt because imo most pressing motions are enough for the anterior delt. Therefore the question was that: wouldn't it be better (if you have the necessary mobility of course) to do the 90 degree version because it involves a little bit less front delt and a little bit more medial head?

[@eagleelisei]

​@John Rogers Thank you for the reply. I agree with what you're saying. I also think that the anterior delt is often too big compared with the side and the rear so it doesn't need too much focus; like you said, generally if you do lot of presses for chest the anterior delt will be fine. That being said I firmly believe that the lateral delt is very important for aesthetics and that's why I suggested the modification in the hopes of recruiting more lateral delt. But you have a point in that you must be careful when choosing the exercises. I guess in this case it doesn't worth the slight increase in medial delt activation because of the shoulder problems it might produce as in your case. I guess I have to do start doing more specifically medial delt targeted exercises that are safe.

[@patrickjulius7352]

@John Rogers would you recommend avoiding any standing variation of this ohp (DBs or BBs) in order to avoid some of the long term injuries you're talking about?

[@Gudi923]

I only hear facts

[@Jediknight.729]

Tip no.4 dont arch your back when doing the press as it creates a different angle to 80° Maybe put the front of the bench up and put ur legs together feet if you can't keep your abs contracted

[@HypertrophyCoach]

Why wouldn’t you want it at 80 degrees?

[@donaldpump1282]

how about not doing the overhead press at all. ever.

[@patrickjulius7352]

why not? would love to hear

[@grahamcallaghan5429]

@@patrickjulius7352 In terms of pure bodybuilding/hypertrophy, the movement is all front delt. Most people get enough front delt work through chest pressing/chest fly movements - and therefore overhead pressing could be considered redundant.

[@patrickjulius7352]

@@grahamcallaghan5429 thanks for the reply. if you skipped shoulder press entirely, would there be any need to supplement chest training with some plate raises or front delt raises, or would chest training, so long as it is enough intensity and volume, be enough to also make front raise variations redundant?

[@grahamcallaghan5429]

@@patrickjulius7352 If your chest pressing/chest fly volume is high enough then there is no need for front delt isolation work. Having said that, doing OHP work or front raises isnt inherently bad - its just that you could be putting those sets and the resources to recover to better use training other muscle groups, as front delts are already adequately stimulated.

[@MrWhale37]

It’s an interesting take since every top pro bodybuilder I’ve seen has overhead presses in their routine.

[@nofil3377]

7:08 XD

[@tonyropi579]

5:25

[@abuaqeedah4893]

Another tip: don’t lock out at the top like at 6:11.

[@HypertrophyCoach]

That’s not actually true. Depending on the direction you’re driving your hands on the bar, there is nothing wrong with locking out.