I use a edger to get a good edge then maintain the edge with my trimmer
@ecklesfarmsstopmotion Жыл бұрын
Trimmer
@gto2000five Жыл бұрын
In my business the edger is strictly for reestablishing the edge but only if there's dirt/mud over the concrete. String trimmer is by far faster, more accurate, and less messy for edging. Plus you don't have to go back to the truck for another tool. Side note, my marching band days in high school have finally paid off 22 years later!
@stefang4929 Жыл бұрын
Brian, Years ago now. I cut Commercial Lawns here in Michigan As well. What worked for me vary well was Initially Yes Use the Edger to Create the Nice Clean Line and Have a Dug out Start,But as the Season Goes Whip Edging is a Huge Time Saver. Always Great to watch your Videos.
@roberthatch3739 Жыл бұрын
I use an edger first time in the spring. Flip edge after, and the edger every 4-5 weeks during the season as necessary. I tend to walk backwards while flip edging, but forward where it’s easier. So basically, a little bit of everything. Thanks for the vids! Always look forward to seeing them.
@jameschatman3801 Жыл бұрын
I actually use both stick edger and string trimmer it just depends on situation/status of the edges.
@equinoxacidz2493 Жыл бұрын
Hard edge I always use a edger, rounded edges like asphalt driveways, I trim edge
@markschmaus5580 Жыл бұрын
Walk Backwards with a string trimmer. I also use a Troy Bilt driveway edger that you walk behind and just push it along. Does a great job!
@johndennis95 Жыл бұрын
Walking backwards is the easiest and leaves the cleanest edge. If you haven’t, TAKE OFF YOUR WEEDEATER GUARD, it will save you an eternity
@cinforammi8543 Жыл бұрын
Stand on the grass side as opposed to the concrete side gives the nicest edge imo.
@johndennis95 Жыл бұрын
@@cinforammi8543 yeah that’s what I do, you can see what your cutting better
@cinforammi8543 Жыл бұрын
@@johndennis95 plus it allows you to walk forward while edging and then you can turn around and be trimming the right direction as you go back down the line. Little things to be efficient.
@bryanc.7819 Жыл бұрын
@@cinforammi8543yup way easier and straight
@Purosanluispotosi Жыл бұрын
That’s that way I do but I worn out my shoes so fast especial on that back sides
@jeramicox7094 Жыл бұрын
I own a lawn care biz also, 14 years strong now!! I’ve always edged with my weed eater, holding it upside down with the motor by my ear and walking backwards too. I thought I was the only person in the world who did this 😂 Glad to see I’m not!!! I could totally work for you if I ever gave up owning.
@allanmowz Жыл бұрын
Many many do it like that. Myself included. I've used the motor by the ear description myself several times. Do you hold your left hand as he did way up on the grip or lower down the handle nearer the point of movement? Far more control further down. I'm too cheap to buy an edger so it's all trimmer haha.
@TheLawnFellas Жыл бұрын
I prefer using a stick edger first time then maintaining it with a trimmer!! I suggest always getting a straight shaft especially if you get employees. If you get an employee like me a lefty the curved shaft is out the window 👍🏼
@proamericanlawncare-qn3qd Жыл бұрын
I tried your style once… the line wasn’t to straight. Hats off to you!
@allanmowz Жыл бұрын
Maybe try it again but with left hand much further down the shaft. You get more control over the moving end that way that up on the grip as he was doing. Personally I walk backwards so where I'm going is on the cleaner side of the spin and can see better to keep the line straight.
@andrewhawblitzel330 Жыл бұрын
At my company we always carry both, we edge like you were we hit it with the hard edge every other week and just keep it clean with the trimmer on the off weeks! Great videos keep it rolling🤙
@ethangray2375 Жыл бұрын
Usually do a flip edge unless it is a corner lot or a first cut; then I will use the edger. For me it has been a lot easier to master flip edging by holding a trimmer all the way upside down vs sideways (if that makes sense)
@DonaldAJr Жыл бұрын
Once you go forward with an edger blade, always go in reverse. You clean out the edge that way. Flip edging is easy but it's hell on your ear. I learned that in the 90s. I don't know why I enjoy these videos, but I do.
@BriansLawnMaintenance Жыл бұрын
That’s what I do!
@vernonaskey9871 Жыл бұрын
For my personal choice, I feel the edger does the best and fastest job. Hence the edger is for edging and the trimmer is for trimming. Why is your guy holding the edger that way? Your digging too deep with too much dirt and mud up on the walks. Just saying
@jomo8924 Жыл бұрын
I'm better with the trimmer. Brian's lawn and maintenance is awesome. Brian, thanks for the free lawn inquiry download. Got me a good amount of aeration/clean- ups! Keep up the hard work! Thanks Joe
@BriansLawnMaintenance Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah Jo!
@mattd8411 Жыл бұрын
Looks good sir Brian. I think it would look a little bit more good er if you tried it with a shindaiwa 262 lol.
@_frivolousteddy_5924 Жыл бұрын
I can see using an edger for overgrown yards but it just seems like they trench more so then edging? Whereas string trimmer edging looks nice nice you master it and leaves less of a mess.
@jordanbentley Жыл бұрын
You're supposed to have the back wheel down and hold it at a less of an angle, the blade shouldn't go deeper than the sidewalk. Guy in the video kinda butchered it lol
@dexewing1 Жыл бұрын
I usually flip edge with the string trimmer, walking backwards. Also find it easier to walk faster and I can usually keep the line in-line just behind the curb. If I do it slower I tend to drift a bit. Weird, but it's worked for me so I'm not knocking it.
@user-pi5pm5sz9u Жыл бұрын
In my years of doing I’ve only seen maybe 2 or 3 that have mastered edging with a string trimmer. In the south the lawns can be edged weekly during the growing season. The dilemmas with edging with a string trimmer are 1.) doing it weekly that gap can get bigger and bigger. Then you’ll have a little. The ones who go backwards and walk on the grass most of the time don’t leave a gap however the grass blades along the edge or cut on an angle not giving you a true crisp edge. Personally for a crisp edge, it’s best to edge after you cut using a stick edger. Curve edger seem to work better when edging around the landscape beds. In closing, take the training wheels off the edger. If your doing this work everyday there’s no need for wheels . You can control the depth. You’re only supposed to use the tip of the blade, doing it this way, you’ll use less blades. BLD 👍🏾
@vangreenlawncare Жыл бұрын
Cut in a new edge with a stick edger. Maintain with trimmer. Edge it out with the edger a few times here and there throughout the season to keep it looking fresh. 👌
@quike387 Жыл бұрын
I do the walking backwards always works for me 😊
@powweezy Жыл бұрын
Straight edge 2620 every time, looks the best and way quicker and crisp if done right. Fresh blade, adjust that wheel high and ride the wheel. However, Im all residential. Great videos bro
@deoji2 Жыл бұрын
String trimmer all day. It's just the way I have been doing it for 25 years. ( But I do it every week on my accounts, so it keeps it super easy.
@tsant6591 Жыл бұрын
Ok, so you know I'm in Florida, and the majority do weekly edging with a stick edger. St Augustine grass has runners, and that steel blade leaves it looking right & tight!
@jnj2233 Жыл бұрын
I use my straight edger first cut of the year to get the edge back in check then maintain with string trimmer. Occasionally I’ll bring my edger once a month if I need to redefine the edge again. It’s less work with an edger but for me I’m used to a string trimmer since I’ve always used a string trimmer for edging whenever I couldn’t afford a designated edger. Starting off in the biz u can get away with just a string trimmer if your skill is pro level at flip edging. Cool vid!
@user-po5bf5zf4v Жыл бұрын
I use the bent shaft. It seems to be easier for tall people like myself vs the straight shafts. First cut of the season I like to use a qalk behind, I found it to be faster and easier. After that echoe combi system bent shaft.
@user-xf7qq2oj9b Жыл бұрын
Love a battery-powered trimmer for exactly what you're doing. A good 18-volt edger/trimmer (I have a Toro) is fantastic. Lightweight, easy to use, and eco-friendly.
@OscarOrod Жыл бұрын
There's nothing better than the big power trim with the 5 hp motor!
@MsMrhawk Жыл бұрын
I use both, i can always get the cleanest and consistent edge with the edger...however it does take a little more time!
@upscalelawncaremonroe408 Жыл бұрын
String trimmer is the way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power Жыл бұрын
I'm still a surgeon with my trimmer, so no, my stance hasn't changed ( and I walk mostly forward with her, since that seems to be a thing in the comments....I don't see why people walk backward with it ) 😂 Though, I have considered the edger for helpers, but I've had three not great helper experiences this year, so that's kaiboshed for now.
@jordanbentley Жыл бұрын
Walking backwards makes the trimmer head spin in the same direction you're pushing it and it kinda gains traction and goes in a straight line by itself, sorta like a wheel
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power Жыл бұрын
@@jordanbentley 😂 Thanks for the explanation, brother, but I know it's a little less resistance ( amd sometimes it wants to run away on you ). It's the walking backwards part I'm talking about. I hold the trimmer so the head faces and spins the same way as most people who walk backward. It just feels more natural logical to run it forward 🤷♂️ A little faster too.
@jordanbentley Жыл бұрын
@@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power oh my bad, yeah sometimes I feel like I should be wearing a helmet while flip trimming, tripped over so many downspouts
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power Жыл бұрын
@@jordanbentley 😂 I tripped over a low stone wall backing up with an old _walkbehind_ once, and it didn't have safeties engaged 😬 Thank God I didn't let go. Same thing when I unknowingly ran over a yellowjacket nest at a different place ( but I was walking forward ) and got two.up my shirt. I didn't let her go, but had the brief presence of mind to disengage the transmission 🤣 Oofa, that was a property full of problems. Glad I don't do it anymore.
@allanmowz Жыл бұрын
It depends on direction of spin. With my counter clockwise trimmer when I go backwards the ejection goes away from me and the side I'm cutting towards is clear to see. A leftie or a clockwise spinning trimmer would reverse that for the same results. But I wonder if it also has something to do with the type of grass as all I cut down here in NZ is kikuyu which can put on lots of height and bulk in just weeks and if I'm not clearing it backwards then it's clumping up in front of where I'm going.
@francoguzzo1810 Жыл бұрын
we use the Echo Pas 2620, i use the edger attachment to get my lines at the start of the season or whenever it needs to be cleaned up, but when it comes to weekly maintenance, we just use the string trimmer
@modelsncrawlers3209 Жыл бұрын
I've never used a stick edger before in all my years doing commercial mowing, big company or small company. I can see the benefit of it for initially setting an edge if it's overgrown or covered with dirt, but after that first time, your best friend is a good 'ol trimmer. In the right hands, it's faster and cleaner. In my experience, if you edge before the mower, you should put the SLIGHTEST tilt on the edge to make up for what the mower can't vacuum into the deck. If you go after the mower, you can usually go just vertical. Another thing I've noticed a lot of newbies do is dropping the trimmer head far into the edge. That eats up your line and also causes what I like to call "line-slap", where the line isn't able to spin completely straight like it needs to and causes a wavy edge by "slapping" the grass when it's rotating instead of shearing it off at high speed. I've used echo, shindaiwa, stihl, and red max trimmers. They all do the exact same job as long as the motor and trimmer head can operate like they're supposed to.
@mentalosrs3076 Жыл бұрын
I maintain with a trimmer walking backwards. Charge extra to get the edge line in, where i use a stick edger :)
@logansimpson5980 Жыл бұрын
Great video I can edge either forwards or backwards I use a edger for overgrown stuff and I use it most of times nowadays
@lances8610 Жыл бұрын
I edge with the string edger every time I mow with a straight shaft bachwards. Holding it 45 degree vertically and horizontally works best for me.
@jacobmonza1660 Жыл бұрын
Flip edge all day. My thing is why have 2 pieces of equipment when one can do the job of both. Plus walking time to to the trailer to switch out from the trimmer to edger. I do it every other cut as well.
@robertzettner4203 Жыл бұрын
You need that good .095 string with the wire in works awesome I love it
@Whiskey7BackRoads Жыл бұрын
Walk backwards with string trimmer, takes some practice but faster and looks good for home DIY, used your code at Ballard yesterday also, thanks for the discount
@BriansLawnMaintenance Жыл бұрын
Hey you bet Whiskey and ty for the support
@darkthrottle6663 Жыл бұрын
I flip edge but i walk forward holding the trimmer head behind me if that makes sense. I also use the edger if i need to initally establish a hard edge on the lawn. If the lawn is over grown onto the sidewalk you have to use the edger and a shovel to clean the edge up.
@Doughboy2913 Жыл бұрын
Depends on my edge. I use edger in beginning of season or if it needs redefigned but I flip edge to maintain it.
@campoffthemap8307 Жыл бұрын
Once you use a Darwin grip, you’ll never want to go without. Saves the back obviously, but it seems like you have better control too, since the leverage point is farther down the shaft.
@davidmarshall2297 Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome! I get on my hands and knees and use a scissors..😅
@Tourn4x4 Жыл бұрын
Flip edge over the shoulder 👌
@stephenkutz1896 Жыл бұрын
I use the Edgit Pro on my 2620. I can edge sidewalks almost as fast as I can walk. It’s a great tool for edging and trimming. I rarely see anyone using them. I’m not sure why it’s not more popular.
@davidjaskiewicz34619 ай бұрын
I do the flip edging while walking backwards or forwards depending on situation.
@gregdyer1991 Жыл бұрын
String trimmer….usually walk forward with trimmer to right side edging….but flip it when it makes more sense. For corner lots or long edge lines, I hold it vertically on my right side and walk forward.
@melissarohringsherriff996 Жыл бұрын
I use a spade for first cut, string trimmer after.
@calebtworek4547 Жыл бұрын
I like both flip edging and stick edging but never fails using a STIHl stick edger for our job sites doing sidewalks at Davey Tree with the gator blades on the STIHL edgers.
@1blacktrike Жыл бұрын
Milwaukee M18 battery, straight rod and Flip and walk forward and lay a mean straight edge and follow curves like a master
@Sparky20Simulation Жыл бұрын
Last year I "attempted" to flip edge, which worked ok, gave decent results. However this spring for my second season I pulled the trigger on a KM131R and a straight shaft edger. I haven't gotten to use it on any properties besides fine tuning it at my own property, but it is going to be a life saver. I like flip edging, but I think that the blade will give a much higher quality look and make my business more professional. Also I mow a lot of nicer high class properties with alot of sidewalks so it should save on my shoulders, (My arm locks up when I flip edge for a long time). Thus far my pick will be Hard blade edger but time will tell. One last note is I feel the string trimmers are a bit more erratic and I really have to rev a lot to get a clean cut, thus if I catch a rock it will launch farther. I think a hardblade edger will be a lot more controllable.
@raqiya5944 Жыл бұрын
Only starting my 2nd season of lawn maintenance but I generally charge for stick edging on first cut/spring cleanup and then use string trimmer rest of season with regular maintenance. Thoughts and Feedback appreciated. Curved shaft Stihl edger Redmax 2620 trimmer Stihl combi for bed redefining
@allanmowz Жыл бұрын
Use what gives you the best results. It may differ depending on which lawn it is or even which part of the lawn. Don't be an on or off the grass guy, go on whichever side is best for the part of the job you are doing. If the result is you are happy to do it like that and it looks pretty and you didn't chip any windows then you are doing it right.
@GreenScapeLawncare Жыл бұрын
6:41 if you flip the stock handle upside down it makes for a awesome flip edge handle I do that because I run a Darwin as well
@blakehowery2864 Жыл бұрын
Great video, love the channel! New to starting and trying to get my lawn care business going. Might be a dumb questions but what’s the benefit for walking and trimming backwards? I’ve tried both forward and backwards just curious. Thanks bud
@allanmowz Жыл бұрын
That depends on the direction of spin and the ejection of material. I walk backwards because I'm walking towards the clean side and away from the ejection side, which means I can see where I'm attacking easier. With a clockwise trimmer I'd probably go the other direction. And you'd probably reverse all that if you went left handed on it.
@alwaysapplypressure2477 Жыл бұрын
Redmax is the 🐐 of wackers hands down they are light the trigger is very sensitive easier on me all day gas tank is big enough as well a Major Plus ➕️
@geraldhuntington9531 Жыл бұрын
We use an actual edger. Now if there is someone like Connor working for us then he it she can do their preferred method as long as it looks clean and professional.
@ecklesfarmsstopmotion Жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, this video was very helpful! thanks!
@ilovegodverymuch8791 Жыл бұрын
Straight shaft, and i flip, trim, and becoming a pro at it
@fros7314 Жыл бұрын
The "shout out to you Connor" sent me😂
@alwaysapplypressure2477 Жыл бұрын
We Appreciate You
@lolothelion8555 Жыл бұрын
Ima pole edger guy myself them blades make alot of a cleaner edge then string imo plus the blades from the pole edger make a lil trench in the dirt where the string hits the grass mostly
@MrChickensnatcher Жыл бұрын
I use the stick edger, then go back with the weedeater and touch it up. I flip edge walking forward while on the grass.
@chrisalicea9330 Жыл бұрын
Stick Edger on dry days. Wet days that string trimmer looks to do the job.
@Andrew_Garcia1 Жыл бұрын
Golden edger once a year, then edge it pro weekly. Easiest way and the training is very simple and you don’t have to Cary a edger every week, and or go back to the trailer. Also backwards
@chrisbosley8280 Жыл бұрын
Straight shaft flip edging. If it's a new property I will use the edger first to establish a clean edge, but after that its all string trimmer,
@lightfoot6908 Жыл бұрын
I turn my trimmer 90° from normal trimming pos., engine in front of me, head behind me and to my right, I look over my shoulder walk straight, and throw the debris away. It’s a lot easier to control that way for me.
@brianlacapra5916 Жыл бұрын
I think those edgers make you work harder than you have to I get faster more efficient results with a string trimmer and less fatigue and we call it sharp whipping in Connecticut, love your videos B-rye keep up the hard work
@user-tt5bh5up7s Жыл бұрын
If there has never been an edge or it's massively over grown, I'll use an edger, otherwise I walk backwards. This blows all grass back into yard and make an incredible edge when turned on its side
@billhull6842 Жыл бұрын
I am thinking about expanding into edging. I have been getting feedback about it. I can edge and square the edges with a weed whacker, but I have tried to edge, and I am not a big fan of. But I think I need to expand into that service.
@chuckmaxon3727 Жыл бұрын
I use a curve shaft stick edger.
@coreyparrish6765 Жыл бұрын
Tell your guy to Use the wheel, it is much better. IF not, you destroy the guard faster. it should only go in about 1/4 inch, or you destroy the blade faster as well. I use both though, short runs can be string trimmed, but like others say, a corner lot takes more time, so an edger is better.
@raypowell1534 Жыл бұрын
Weed eater for sure with out the guard on it. When I do use a edger I like to walk backwards I found to give me more sharp edge
@Hitm8kr Жыл бұрын
It just depends . Some properties i straight shaft with the km131 and some I flip edge, it depends on the concrete and etc. like some of my properties go straight to the street and some have a sidewalk
@vallybutterfly98 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on how to deal with lots of obstacles like trees with a zero turn? And still have nice finished lines?
@williammoore5452 Жыл бұрын
I do all just depends on the yards we are doing really does
@brandonstaley1289 Жыл бұрын
Im not great at using a weed eater for edging either so when its time and needs it, i use an actual edger. And mine is straight shaft
@Tracy77751 Жыл бұрын
Awesome…! Thank you so much…! ❤❤❤
@Blastable Жыл бұрын
usually I stand on the sidewalk side and walk backwards, when you’ve got a defined edge after a few weeks the string will dig into the crack and pull you with it
@claudestevens1350 Жыл бұрын
Big fan of edger in my own yard but I think that when using it in a business sense it would be better to use the line trimmer with less mess. Thoughts?
@stevesula5930 Жыл бұрын
I get my best lines with string and walking backwards. With the wildfire potential out here you never see edgers.
@MB12116 Жыл бұрын
Next controversial topic: guard or no guard? I keep the guard, as I’ve tried it without the guard and the benefit was negligible for me and I think the guard adds some value as you don’t get as much thrown back at you.
@curtharris7426 Жыл бұрын
I use string, have always wondered how a steel blade effects concrete after a few years.
@craigwooster2245 Жыл бұрын
String trimmer walking backwards weekly and you have capacity of doing trimming other things. In New England stick trimmers just aren't used. I was blown away that so many people use stick trimmers where I live in SC. it's an extra piece of equipment and for only one purpose, so think
@allowat162 Жыл бұрын
Blade edger...on a PAS style powerhead. Use the curved head when using an Oregon 40-002 edger blade. Otherwise straight shaft rest of the time
@tri-citypropertymaintenanc4617 Жыл бұрын
Echo 2620 Curved shaft edger!
@MrChandlerB2311 ай бұрын
If you walk backwards you will have better control and straighter edges and I only use a line trimmer for my edges I've never used the blades for edging
@seanbennitt261 Жыл бұрын
Is Toro a good brand for a first commercial trimmer can you let me know Brian
@tonymoreno9090 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s not a fair comparison , because the edger already had the walk edged- so the string trimmer doesn’t do the same job. Maybe bi- weekly it’s faster with the trimmer. As always great videos
@ethanmiller3935 Жыл бұрын
I am on the stick edger sise of this argument. Question for you, straight or curve shaft for the edger? I got the pas2620 with curve edger, and boy does it do better than a 21cc!
@peterpanfham9890 Жыл бұрын
I use a straight shaft trimmer and I flip edge and walk backwards
@futurec16 Жыл бұрын
Walk backwards and straight shaft. Walking backwards you can see over the edge to make sure it’s crispy!
@CZAnthonyX Жыл бұрын
I cut a new hard edge once a month, but i maintain the edge via flip edging.
@robertkalanzjr8309 Жыл бұрын
Hi what’s a good line to use when edging thanks Bob
@allanmowz Жыл бұрын
With your first segment of flip edging in this video, lower your left hand much further down the shaft and ignore the grip. You'll get way more control for a straighter line. Having it way up high like you did makes way too much moving room and a longer lever between you and the moving end. So it'll be able to move much easier than if you hold closer to the moving end. Like you I walk backwards and that's because of the anticlockwise rotation on my trimmer. I walk towards the clear side so visuals are improved of where I'm going. On or off the grass doesn't matter - that's dictated by the design of the lawn and what I am avoiding throwing stuff towards. Additionally, once a line is set in an edge it only requires maintenance. So there's nothing against setting it with the edger tool then maintaining it with the trimmer after that point. But I can't justify paying full price on an edger when the trimmer works so well already. This coming from a Kiwi bloke with knee high kikuyu grass that can grow over concrete.
@allanmowz Жыл бұрын
Afterthought. You can also do the waist height inverted method if you want an angled cut such as against a house or fence line. It depends on what you are trying to do which dictates what you do to achieve it.
@lawncare504 Жыл бұрын
HEZ3060S edger is the way to go
@kc9740 Жыл бұрын
That was brutal watching the guy in the blue with the edger
@phillipcoffman Жыл бұрын
Hey thank you very much for the video Brian I have a very interesting but serious question for you I'm 5 foot one and 63 years old and I was asked to mow and trim my churches lawn I had a lawn care business years ago and the edging technique of course was using a power cord I'm really having issues trying to hold onto the trimmer and I noticed the bar that you have On your trimmer is that only for tall people if so what would you suggest as far as using straight shaft trimmer thanks Brian
@BriansLawnMaintenance Жыл бұрын
I feel like the Darwin’s Grip is for folks over 6’ tall. I don’t personally use it much but my guys love it
@ScottLara Жыл бұрын
Straight edger! #Florida
@jayrose9463 Жыл бұрын
Blades universal or brand specific? If universal would love a link at that price. I have an echo and ones I buy are a bit more
@imcnblu Жыл бұрын
When it hasn't been maintained, you establish the edge with the edger. Touch it up weekly, or as-needed, with the trimmer.