How to perform King's new Blue Spark grabs

[@HatsonFGC]

Great video. It's funny that the game just lies to the player on how its mechanics actually work. Tekken is full of obtuse stuff like this. Lee has a ton of new Blue Sparks / Just Frames, on top of all his old ones. He's like, Blue Sparks the character. I would be curious to see their ACTUAL windows of execution documented. Some of them feel a lot more lenient than the others. I assume the old ones are still the same windows, like Mist Trap still being 1F timing. But as far as I know, no one has actually fact checked all his Just Frames / Blue Spark windows in Tekken 8 yet, so there might even be some changes to his old windows. The Wavu wiki has breakdowns of some of his blue spark windows in Tekken 7, if you're curious.

[@lemonzest8650]

Acid Rain and Mist Trap definitely have the most precise timings Stuff like his new b1, b1+2 you just have to not input it crazy fast and you just get it

[@MaxPayne909]

It's just a result of bad translation.

[@Jetanium]

​@@MaxPayne909it's 2024, we shouldn't still be dealing with Sega Genesis level issues.

[@MaxPayne909]

@@Jetanium Haha I 100% agree. Unfortunately, translation is always an issue no matter what year it is. You should see some of the translated documents the US government puts out today to the public!

[@bigballer1278]

Very interesting. I was trying to wonder why the camera angles were different when fighting another King. Appreciate this video. Imma try these out

[@bigballer1278]

I use the d-pad…I’m never gonna do these lol

[@righteouself9928]

@@bigballer1278 They are very much not impossible on pad. It's just a matter of practice, you'll get there

[@freyafoxmusic]

@@bigballer1278then switch to lever less it’s easy to do

[@Aerynolae]

In essence, kinda like doing electrics but also pressing all the directional inputs. That last part I didn't know. Thought I only need to time the final input. Thank you for the tip!

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

Armor King was mishima archetype after all

[@BltzZ]

Kuma's sit ups need some work

[@wapaking.]

2:45 Did...you just attempt to say "f,f+2+4" in 6 frames? 😂Super helpful video btw

[@benjamm1n91]

Exactly my throughts LOL like it was on voice commands

[@stormfly893]

Bro I will learn this till the end of time just to have extra swag even if you only get 5 more damage

[@JJ-th5cg]

5 ist voll viel vor allem weil die throws sowieso schon unendlich schaden machen

[@donabruzzi9468]

Awesome video, I'm still to dumb for it. But its my fault. Thank you fro this video bro

[@michealkelly9441]

Devil jin has a move whos inputs are identical, and just so tough

[@Blt9983]

So glad you uploaded this video, I played a tiny bit of King in Tekken 7 but I got Tekken 8 on release and took learning him very seriously and made really good progress. I can’t do just about any of his throws without a problem but could not get the Blue Sparks throws down for the life of me. I did it with Giant Swing once and couldn’t replicate it, and there’s basically nothing online until I saw your video

[@MisterBlackout]

You’ll feel when you do it right and the game will confirm it, Focus on actually hitting every direction in the input and you’ll get it more consistently I usually get it majority of the time when i’m in ranked doing a setup like jab or 2,1 into giant swing. Same with combos, I assume it’s because of the speed required that makes up for doing it too slow.

[@regularuser9613]

Lethal League OST jumpscare

[@KidUncommon]

Thanks so much I was digging so much internet for that sweet science

[@repstylegaming9730]

How do you skip an input, when you have to do the inputs to do the moves?

[@ehehehehehe9661]

Buffering moves has leniency towards motion inputs.

[@Warsheep2k6]

One thing about the bSW is that it comes out a lot faster from a buffered state then the regular iSW (bSW is basically the true iSW and the "old" iSW from t3-7) and you can do some crazy stuff with it so while bGS and bTT aren't as important the bSW kinda is for max damage combos and mind games

[@Bronx1875]

Recognized the maplestory cursor right away lol.

[@Zangief010]

Does the blue spark make the move faster ?

[@TheThrillerJunkie]

Now I can do Blue Spark grabs more consistently thanks to this video! Really appreciate you sharing this!

[@GelatinLabs]

Update: As per my video on throw breaks, Blue Spark throws also get a decreased throw break window! So it provides a few extra benefits besides just damage! Please leave a comment with any other Blue Spark moves you want me to look into!

[@nh2565]

Id LOVE a breakdown on how dragunovs blue spark WR2 ACTUALLY works... it seems so inconsistent sometimes, even with "extremely fast inputs" that every guide out there will tell you to do - at least it did with my testing. It seems that the conditions are now different since the whole "running animation not cancelling upon contact with the enemy" change was put into place, I'm not sure though

[@dicksock5763]

​@@nh2565 it's very similar to how the shining wizard works. the first f can be input very slowly but the f,f,f+2 has to be within 7 frames to get consistent blue sparks. note the word consistent. i've gotten sparks on 8 or even 9 frame inputs but it's rare. unlike giant swing, you can hold f+2 and it doesn't seem to affect it. but the f, n, and f inputs need to be 7 frames or fewer.

[@cnul]

Gelatin on Tekken 8 !!! It's over guys. No more secret is safe !!

[@Singh_itis]

But i really want help in the thing that How to press forward button 3 times so quickly.. i barely can make it on 10 frames after 1st press…. Provide some tips guys..

[@ultima_maxima]

Thank you, been looking all over for the requirements to get the quick input. Edit: Sometimes I simply don't get a blue spark giant swing even when meeting all the requirements. It's harder for me to get it on an airborne enemy. Edit: I just saw the point about buffering. Thank you.

[@hot-bloodedmartialartist3900]

I mastered all the blue spark grabs except isw, I can’t really get it consistently even though I could get point blank isw in Tekken 7, guess I lost my mojo

[@Zangief010]

Me too I can’t do the blue spark, I don’t know why, is there any tip or trick? If yes let me know

[@5part4]

Beautiful video. King is the champ! I'm gonna try that now. Instant run grab was my difficulty. The giants swing and tornado I didn't no unhad to crouch. Thanks bro. And try law blue spark and lee

[@mfgouki4402]

Claudio has a blue spark version of his 1+2,1+2,2 hit confirm where you do bf2 for the last hit instead of just 2. It gives a little bit more damage and starburst state but it’s not that hard.

[@kirion111]

playin Tekken on the Hitbox makes every moves 10 times easier

[@excelsiusprime]

I don't think you should sweat to get a blue I think it's a good bonus for players who main character and do it naturally.

[@denali1566]

Algo comment, I've been looking for this exact info since launch. Now I just gotta get my fingers off the button faster

[@wm3764]

5 damage is the difference between a ko and a your opponent input a string that makes him have the Great so do stress about it if you want to be really good every hp counts.

[@AntediluvianInternetEntity]

this rules, thank you for doing the labwork and making an explainer

[@shvy100]

i also got blue sparks in my chain grabs, why is that?

[@SadButter]

so basically king has electrics now. pretty cool.

[@LxrdOzul]

Idk but i feel like my hands are either too heavy or to fadt

[@Eli-WLR]

Do you have any social way I can send you a clip of what I’m doing wrong cause I can’t get the swing down to safe my life

[@GelatinLabs]

You can send me a DM on Twitter!

[@beigemaster]

Top tier guide- good job!

[@LazySwitch]

Sweet guide, I was wondering what was actually required for the bSW and bGS, I knew it was clean inputs but I didn't know about the delay with the df. Keep making more guides please!

[@agent136]

Oh no shit!? The shining wizard can't be on the same frame now? I've been on that T7 so long that I keep getting the 2+4.

[@GelatinLabs]

Believe it or not, it was that way in T7 as well! For any iWR move, the attack button comes AFTER the last forward input.

[@agent136]

Then it must be how running works in this game. It feels different than in 7. Gotta adjust. Also btw great choice on the Lethal League music. @@GelatinLabs

[@kodaiyoung]

I'll let the rng decide for me.

[@SilverSnakeSlays]

🔥 as a king main , I appreciate this video . Thanks for the information bro

[@tripmisterman]

Dam, I just started tekken, grinded for 4 days, at 90k prowess and I swear, I just thought kings combos had random damage fluctuations.

[@TheCangu97]

BIGNIC - SCREAM MENTIONED also good job prepping up for when armor king drops so i can ask you how tight shit Is to optimize

[@Sorrus-B4lyfe]

King is a iconic character… and most of us who are casuals who have played Tekken since the beginning = Can’t master him. It’s possible on controller to execute these moves. But it’s far easier if you have an arcade stick otherwise you’ll never hit King’s potential.

[@FahmiZFX]

To add on Giant Swing and Tijuana Twister, you can actually still get them with a separate qcb+qcf instead of a clean hcf. This will make it look like you did it out of sidestep. The buffering for these two throws is way generous now compared to older games. The input would look like this ➡__⬅↙⬇__⬇↘➡+ 1

[@cedyanlee666]

Awesome..was not aware of the technical aspects..been relying on the feeling of it..😂

[@Knightimex]

Paul Phoenix's blue sparks knowledge would be very helpful.

[@crizzy2]

I've seen some high level kings blue spark chain throws also curious how you execute that?

[@GelatinLabs]

Certain chain throws have a simple input and an advanced input. Check the movelist to see when you can use an advanced input for Blue Sparks!

[@mojtaba7193]

modnation music go hard

[@Ty_J_Maxx]

i'm testing this again and it seems like the crouch forward window was reduced to 2 frames? unless i'm doing something else wrong. i swear i was able to get more blue sparks during 1.0

[@Ty_J_Maxx]

nevermind i just did one with 3 frames crouch forward. i don't know why my other attempts have 3 or less frames and doesn't blue spark

[@KOTD45]

Nina has blue spark grabs and the input is actually in the move list. It is far easier to do hers though.

[@HolySok]

Maybe you could look at Jack-8's Windmill Uppercut. I guess EWGF is a "blue spark" or sorts. Maybe could look in depth for all characters with one and see what you actually have to input

[@lzoneonethreethreeseven8046]

shining wizard timing is like really tight isnt it?

[@alexandervongolabill9155]

Ye... I cant get it blue

[@unclerimz]

Idk why I watched like I’m a tekken player and know what he’s talking about

[@Razzorblack_TK]

You earned a sub and my respect

[@UltimateBallaPOM]

Awesome that you can confirm all the things I've been preaching! Great video.

[@Masterwar78]

Great video, now show us how to get that blue spark for wind god fist

[@nerotheweirdo4755]

They be makin these blue sparks way to hard to time

[@Qneetsa]

I don't play King (in fact I hate King with passion) but the edit with the dancing digits for 6 directions of Giant Swing made me subscribe to the channel. Keep up the good work! 👊

[@steeltiger8222]

i main law his two are wall combo 4,3 dss f+3... and 4,3,dss f+4 eaaily dont at max input speed

[@meljXD2]

I watch this video for fun every now and then even though I can do blue sparks grabs. Very good stuff

[@zaydbhula1161]

that voice was too relaxing for a king main. I think this guy is an imposter

[@1Ksheffi]

I finally have the hang of it, but I can't quite do it on the fly just yet. Thanks for the video, sir.

[@TheLuke67]

the voices

[@erhanhusseyin5071]

Aaaand this is why i gave tekken up. All the weird input. Star lol what is star. You have to actually have someone explain it. I just want to fight not master some morse code in input to perform a move

[@kiribonkers752]

Means neutral, u gotta let go of keys (not pressing any even just for mili seconds) idk what it means yrs ago too and i dont rly play tekken much only offline.

[@erhanhusseyin5071]

@kiribonkers752 lol still like why?. Why does an input need a google search and why does it need to be complex

[@jesterpester1425]

ive been doing the blue spark throws without even realizing it was special. i just thought that they made his moves all blue sparks

[@Joshua2steeler]

Can you investigate Jack 8’s blue spark? I think his quick input is lying as well.

[@MrDarkSunshine]

Great video! I was wondering how to get the blue spark SW. Looks like I just gotta be faster

[@masterofdel]

I actually saw this video in my recommended many times and as a king main Who can consistently do the blue sparks version I figured I knew how to do it. In my mind it was simply do it "fast" I had no idea about these extra requirements. Amazing video.

[@ppapiurek]

Another mechanic that favours hitbox users (offline) and cheaters (macro users online). Hate it.

[@GelatinLabs]

Actually for Blue Spark GS/TT specifically, it's arguably worse for hitbox because EVERY direction must be accounted for and hitboxes have a tendency to skip directions when performing half-circles. But yeah, they got buffed in other ways.

[@youngpast0228]

Yo I'm e been looking for a tutorial on how to wr2 blue spark dragunov and the 4 seconds at the end was all I needed. Also this confirms you can't do them while actually running towards your opponents yeah?

[@GelatinLabs]

Yup! The input is too quick to utilize at a faraway distance.

[@Silentkidgaming]

Is that frame data on left mod or its in the game?

[@benjamm1n91]

its in the game! very helpful too

[@Silentkidgaming]

@@benjamm1n91 the one on the left right?? It shows how much frames a button was pressed.... If so ,then it's cool man🤑😍

[@cerdi_99]

@@Silentkidgaming yep, it is base game, its great

[@Tom3kkk]

Didn't king have some kind of blue sparks on his chain throws in the CBT?

[@cellador_tk2105]

Still does, if you do like sidestep 2+4 and start the chainthrow, you can do easy inputs with just pressing 1 or 2, or do the classic inputs which will give blue sparks and more damage in total.

[@khaledxz4892]

ما هي الفائدة من الشرارة الزرقاء ؟

[@denali1566]

Hey, I've been labbing trying to get my consistency down, and I've noticed bSW being slightly easier when buffered. The most recent example is F+2+4 on the 10th frame like this: F+2+4 F, 1f n, 4f F, 4f n, 8f F, 3f n, 9f 2, 5f

[@GelatinLabs]

It certainly makes it easier because the first forward can be fully buffered! Great for focusing on the really difficult part, which your inputs match!

[@jasonelbow3807]

Wolf from Virtua Fighter 5 had a just frame Giant Swing first. It's called the Perfect Giant Swing or PGS.

[@syncretik5762]

king is a wolf clone. but of course, your knew that already

[@JG-tr8ph]

k VF's dead though.

[@NukeStudioTV]

Great video! Trying to main king and just started yesterday. Loving his gameplay so far lol. Not to bust your balls though, I can barely hear your explanations with the music in the background lol. Just some feedback.

[@GelatinLabs]

Appreciate the tip! Balancing audio has been a nightmare so it's good to get some more feedback.

[@MrSessh090]

JACK-8 have a blue spark uppercut. For me is possible to hit that only with leverless controllers

[@Warsheep2k6]

Yeah the " one! " pretty nasty attack if you master it though

[@Jay4Nines]

thx alot for this.👍

[@kadmielsardua3141]

iWR

[@riverstone5994]

I did not know that wr same frame thing, thanks man I kept getting normal throw

[@GelatinLabs]

It's not well explained anywhere but it's a core concept of While Running moves! Spread the word!

[@bigbongus4908]

wish ppl still played lethal league online

[@mrjamesgarcia]

I believe it also reduces throw break window to 10f? Correct me if I'm wrong

[@ryanhass8716]

That's a really cool mechanic, if true. I mostly just want to see if anyone in the thread can definitively say if that's the case.

[@GelatinLabs]

I actually have a video covering how the throw break window changes according to different situations. AND, Blue Spark throws DO have a unique break window (though it's not 10F)!

[@idontknowwhattoputhere2358]

Wait so do blue sparks do more damage or something?

[@Warsheep2k6]

5 damage more and you get a fancy camera angle somebody stated it lowers the reactable window to 10f(from the regular 15) which i have yet to confirm

[@luca4k484]

i can consistently throw out blue giant swing but I suck at even regular isw for some reason... also i cant execute giants swing in matches AT ALL, if they are on the offense I cant get any grabs out at all... same for jaguar sprint RKO, cant manage to hit it

[@luca4k484]

they just jab or do whatever move while im in j sprint, i suck at throwing in real matches, any advice?

[@GelatinLabs]

I'd recommend joining the King Discord to get some great advice on actual gameplay improvements!

[@alexandervongolabill9155]

​@@GelatinLabs I cant find the discord you are talking about

[@luca4k484]

im definitely good at it now but still cant figure out blue isw

[@TheDeathBed65]

oh fuck yea play more king videos baby lets fucking go

[@syncretik5762]

so whats the point? more plus?

[@JJ-th5cg]

5 more damage

[@EdStopMotion]

Need an anti King guide just got grabbed for half my health 😔

[@stormfly893]

Let King cook, he finally became not bad

[@power50001562]

mash the throw break buttons

[@spidwid667]

Does this work the same way as electrics?

[@josuemanuelcastilloreinoso292]

just do the DF+2 at the same time

[@chatokingarmorking]

thanks bro

[@immortalthumbz]

Everything is just frame now they said they made the game easier and they didnt

[@cristiancolon1526]

It's not like you have to do them lol

[@immortalthumbz]

@@cristiancolon1526 optimal combos could mean a W or L not complaining but stating how they said one thing and its 🧢

[@NuggyPoundy1]

finally someone with a brain cell, l thought king got buffed, but instead he didnt really get much as others....

[@immortalthumbz]

@@NuggyPoundy1 his neutral relies on that goofy running move and his normal trap moves give too much space for grabs to work efficiently

[@skyslashnova4308]

its like 5 more damage and some swag lmao dont sweat it too hard.

[@srseki]

Could the blue spark SW be buffered?

[@GelatinLabs]

Nope!

[@NoxMedicant]

People play this on PC... I imagine it would be SUPER easy to set up all commands as macros, and execute them with 1 butten press.

[@aamirmughal2965]

King is built different. Everyone can pick lars, lee, leo, Howa, and specially new characters like victor and smash button to do some super cool lightening and sparkling stuff. King requires basics and patience.

[@Fares.SA37-4]

The only upgrade I want for King is deleting him from the game franchise

[@sadpug9398]

I wish Kings throw did 10 damage, and blue spark - not more than 30. This is the only way this abomination should be allowed to exist

[@JG-tr8ph]

Literally skill issue. Why d'you think King barely wins tourneys?

[@sadpug9398]

@@JG-tr8ph don't compare ranked and pro scene. This is dumb