How To Pick The Best Laptop For Programming!

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What Makes a Great Laptop for Programmers in 2022?
0:00 Introduction to Josh
1:16 Processor (CPU)
4:07 Single or Multi Threaded Performance?
6:13 Graphics (GPU)
9:02 Older 2nd Hand Models?
9:23 Memory (RAM)
11:10 Upgradeability Options
11:28 Storage
13:58 Screen - IMPORTANT!
18:18 Keyboard - IMPORTANT!
21:03 Camera
22:25 Ports
23:55 Battery
27:56 Operating System
31:26 Low End Laptop Suggestions
33:12 Mid Range Laptop Suggestions
34:41 High End Laptop Suggestions
36:24 Laptop Reviews For Programmers
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[@JustJoshTech]

Big thanks to Jarrod for having me round. It was great fun to talk laptops and all things Tech!!

[@pranjalgarg]

Keep nodding!

[@doggoboi7977]

Ok

[@truearmy1953]

Wow 😲. Good to see You both together !!! 👍

[@frieza1016]

Quick question and because this comment will be popular. At pick ryzen 3000 popularity, i recommended a 3300x for a guy on a budget to do his programming, some random guy (that I will call Justin, sorry if anyone has this name) basically trash talked and to summarize said "you can't do that on ryzen buy a intel"... Was Justin just full of sh*t, or is there some random problem with ryzen when programming? (side note, if I remember correctly it was java and c++)

[@vksspectro]

@@frieza1016 he was prolly just "full of sh*t". There are no problems that i am aware of and i've personally had none to this point (php, javascript, python developer here)

[@enkvlogs]

Jarrod paying attention and looking at the camera is a vibe.

[@JarrodsTech]

Me: Pretending to understand

[@enkvlogs]

@@JarrodsTech 😅

[@forhadrh]

@@JarrodsTech 😂😂😂

[@epiccreepersus]

@@JarrodsTech haha lol

[@mrjean9376]

@@JarrodsTech noo, you just pretend to not understand and innocent 😅

[@jetmartin9501]

As a software developer myself I enjoyed this discussion because it was very thorough. And great questions, Jarrod!!!...some of the topics you covered weren't things I necessarily consciously think of when selecting a laptop but they absolutely play into my decision (subconsciously). I agree with everything that was covered in this video. Here are a couple of my personal preferences for a developers laptop: 1) Need for a Matte (non-glossy) display. Office environments can often times have harsh lighting conditions (overhead lights, large bright office windows, etc.). There is nothing more frustrating than having to look at code on reflective (glossy) display and having to constantly adjust your screen or your position to try and avoid the reflection. It can really strain the eyes. In this regard, Matte displays make a HUGE difference. Of course the brighter the screen the better. Personally I like Matte displays with a minimum of 400 nits of brightness and preferably 500 nits. 2) RE: ports...Ok this is more of a nice to have..besides having the ability to charge via USB-C, my preference is to have a USB-C port on both sides that I could use to charge the laptop. You never know where the plug is going to be (right side or left side) and having a charge port on either side of the laptop eliminates the need to snake the power cable around your laptop. Again not a huge issue but a nice to have. Also I should add that I've noticed that my USB-C ports on my 3 year old X1 Carbon laptop have become "stretched" over time and loose...likely because of the strain from wrapping the power cable around the laptop. On that note one of the things I like about Lenovo Legion Gaming laptops is that they offer a good number of ports (including power port) on the backside of the laptop...which is a very easy to access location and a neutral position...so no wrapping cables that tug on the ports....oh....and I love the Legion's GREAT matte displays. 3) Also I agree that at least one USB-A ports (for mice) and an a HDMI port is preferable for the reason stated in this video. As a right hander my preference would be to have the USB-A port on the right side of the machine if you happen to be using a wired mouse. 4) Also having a physical audio port is important. Bluetooth is certainly an alternative but I find myself frequently forgetting to re-charge my BT headphones or simply running out of battery on the headset and it's nice to have the physical port as a fall back in that case. Cheers, Jet

[@eliasvandenmooter35]

RTX is better for ML en DL because they have dedicated tensor cores. These are cores that can accelerate matrix computations. Tensorflow is an example of a library for ML and it benefits greatly from CUDA and tensor cores on RTX graphics. GTX cards don't have tensor cores but still have CUDA.

[@uwuman101]

But then there are TPUs. Training a model in the cloud seems more viable

[@gavinderulo12]

@@uwuman101 yes. But its great to be able to test locally. Also not all models have to use deep neural networks. You can solve a lot of tasks with simpler models that can easily be trained on a laptop with an 3070 for example. Its usually the vram that causes problems first, not the number of cores.

[@JustJoshTech]

Thank you!!! Comments like this are something I love about KZbin.... I get to learn from you guys

[@omarmorcho6335]

Legion 5 with rtx 3070 or legion 5 pro with rtx 3060?, i am gonna use it in artificial intelligence and DL and i don't know if should i take the rtx 3070 over the screen of legion 5 pro?

[@s.chowdhury1754]

@@omarmorcho6335 legion 5 with rtx 3070 as you will have more vram

[@archocystosyrinx]

Love how Jarrod has to have a laptop near him in every video, it’s the source of his power

[@barimirgames]

Great video! I wish I had this when I was studying. As a web developer/designer, a nice screen with good resolution and accurate colors is really important. Colors play a big role when it comes to ui and ux. Something to keep in mind.

[@jman7472]

This was an amazing collab! Loved the format and loved listening to Josh, super informative video as someone who is in the market for a laptop to go to Uni to learn to code! Would love to see more of you two together!

[@orion4329]

Have you chosen a uni yet and if so which one

[@brendand.5161]

Jarrod (and Josh) -- what a smart topic with insightful observations. Every developer should listen to this... especially for Josh's insights into the corporate environment (i.e., modelling in meetings, downloading production environments, and needing a HDMI cable :) in conference rooms). Some really good observations here. Keep this going.

[@AliTweel]

2 of my favorite youtubers are together, I love your input on the matter. As for me, I travel by my car, I walk short distances so a 17" beast is fine with my type of work, I have the Asus strix g17 with ryzen 5900hx and RTX 3070 for Cybersecurity VMs, graphic design and gaming and I love it. Thanks for the collaboration 😀 😊 🙏

[@Nomadjackalope]

Thanks! This was very comprehensive and it's hard to find reviews not just about gaming performance

[@tarfeef_4268]

lol as a DevOps Engineer, this is so out-of-whack for me. Our entire goal is to make the developer experience as simplified and minimal as possible, so we do things like containerize everything so you don't have to care about local environments, comprehensive CI/CD to make local testing less of an issue, etc. So all the problems you're talking about solving via good hardware are things I am paid to abstract away entirely :D Some things to note based on what was said, and what may have been not noted for time, etc: - docker volume performance on MacOS is terrible, if you are mounting in data to containers while working with them, it sucks on MacOS. I've benchmarked a 20x speedup running on linux vs macos with the same specs. It's brutal. - If you are using just a text editor vs IDE, especially if you're not plugin-heavy, and do have primarily remote builds/tests, you can get away with very little hardware. I primarily use chromebooks for my development, for example - Learn your workloads. Some compilation is REALLY cache-heavy, and is super AMD friendly right now. So for people who build locally and often, and have workloads like that, those decisions will matter a lot - I would not trust rosetta 2 for actual testing of anything right now, if you're working with x86 software, and want to do local builds/tests, don't get a new mac yet. And if you're someone like me who edits in vim and doesn't do meaningful local builds/tests because everything is automated, just get something with the keyboard/trackpad/IO/screen/battery you like, and don't sweat the processing, ram, etc. basically anything will work. heck for the last week i was working on some personal stuff and I was using a spare system running a 2C/4T haswell CPU w/ 8GB of RAM, and I couldn't tell it apart from my 5950X main rig. Know your workload, and stick with it.

[@stefanosstamatiadis740]

Thank you 😮

[@tod4429]

Don't show this comment my parents 😂

[@PlasticFood124]

Hello tarfeef, can we connect? I just moved to DevOps would love to ask some questions.

[@PlasticFood124]

What's your Twitter handle

[@railb1rd]

exactly this. macs are unusable for anyone who needs to use docker volumes. + with WSL 2 windows did really catch up.

[@rishabh4082]

Great video! We need more like these. Precise and complete. No need to go to other videos searching for unanswered questions

[@tomk-ot4ju]

Jarrod, u & Josh have covered lot of problems programmers can face, & how to lower their impact on writing codes. Thanks y'all

[@colin_actually]

It's nice to get another perspective that isn't just predominantly about video rendering.

[@idogalisr]

Extremely well made and highly professional video. Josh speaks up to the point, not letting himself getting into cliches, populism, and buzz. Thanks!

[@Machtyn]

The base boost and echo made it difficult to listen to, though.

[@matthewsam.0154]

Hey guys love what your doing and keep up the good vids

[@atreusduvelll600]

Just a quick note, I am typing this on a Macbook Pro 14 (with M1 Pro) and it does have 32GB of RAM, so this configuration is possible. I think you do need the M1 MAX if you need 64GB, though. Great overview as always, Josh! Thanks for getting this collab together you two!

[@purplegill10]

30:58 Important thing to remember about using a laptop with linux: try to get one with an AMD gpu. Nvida GPU drivers are notoriously buggy on linux and AMD's are fully open so the difference in performance and day-to-day use can be staggering. If you only have nvidia laptops available to you then they can still work, but you're gonna suffer a performance penalty and, speaking from experience, a lot of annoying/bizarre bugs that you can't quite seem to figure out.

[@Sweet-Vermouth]

I'd like to add one exception- if you run ML related workloads on GPUs, don't bother with AMD. Only Nvidia supports CUDA, and the entire industry relies on CUDA.

[@chic_luke]

@@Sweet-Vermouth If that's the case and you absolutely do need NVidia, make sure the laptop you are buying has the external video outputs wired to the INTEGRATED graphics, NOT the NVidia (that causes very evident and painful performance issues when connecting monitors without fully switching to the NVidia card, which in turns brings in many more problems), and make sure to run in hybrid mode: integrated graphics set as the main GPU, NVidia only for CUDA and PRIME. Also make sure the laptop is configured so that the NVidia GPU can be turned off at will. This is not obvious. With these three conditions done, go ahead. Else… really consider an alternative solution, because it's going to be bad.

[@ronniebasak96]

Unless you are gaming, nvidia drivers are fine for Blender and CUDA. For gaming, AMD is better. But dual booting fixes that

[@blocksrey]

I actually much prefer Nvidia on Linux, only if there’s a mux switch that is. Optimus sucks on Linux!

[@imrobbinganyonewhotalkstom4881]

@@chic_luke i have a script that automatically installs nvidia drivers when plugged in charger and removes when not lmao.

[@Arcadinhog]

This is one of the most nerdy and enjoyable videos I've seen in a long time. Great job.

[@nicktids]

Nice to see you guys together. Having watched you guys I bought the omen 15. Got it second hand and whoops got the terrible screen 300 nits and low quality colour. But the price was well worth it. So gonna keep watching for thr next best buy. Welcome to Aus

[@2k10clarky]

Reason for more RAM as a software developer is containerisation. If your doing docker stuff 32Gb is a real nice to have.

[@alamgir007]

I was literally finding for video with this type of information and exactly this one is just amazing. This helped me for making better decision. Thanks a lot man!(both of you) ❤️

[@armanaugusto2598]

A big thanks to you both for this video!

[@nshad03]

Love these type of your videos.

[@PSalamanderful]

Thank you for your videos, bro!!! After seeing a couple of them I bought Legion 7 last summer. So far it seems perfect all-in-one choice. Only alternative I saw was Dell/Alienware almost twice the price!

[@soumyachakraborty4150]

For DL models, higher CUDA cores and higher VRAM is always better option. The Tensor cores helps while using Tensorflow. So, yes, the RTX series cards are better.

[@yogeshsriraman5463]

This is one of the best videos I have seen in a while regarding laptops for programming. I am a Unity programmer and I face a lot of heating, and battery issues in many mid range laptops. Really informative video. Great job!

[@codeforgames]

Which laptop did you choose for Unity? I think between the Legion Legion 5 pro and the Asus G14

[@obialethan]

another great collab, cheers to you both amazing content creators

[@Sykeye7]

I liked this video in the first 3 seconds of playing! Very very informative video! Well done guys!

[@user-iq4up5hj6p]

I don't think you know how long I was waiting for this video... thanks so much Jarrod!

[@dandiaz19934]

OMG, what a cool crossover! i'm so happy to see two of my favorite youtubers on screen together!!

[@mikaelasatsu4103]

Thanks for this video! I'm a programming student and my current laptop was hitting it's limits( i've being trying to limit my usage and adapt but i can't do that anymore) so i've being looking up nice laptops i could buy and ngl i got very confused cuz i see many different recommendations some say this laptop is good some say it's bad i was very confused 😅. This video and your review videos were really just.. right to the point i like them so much Thanks!!

[@SaarN1337]

I got the Acer Swift X and I'm really pleased with it! I got it a 100w usb c charger, a usb-c dongle for extra monitors so I could use my 2 monitors at work / home, and I always carry a wireless keyboard and mouse with me (65% Asus Falchion). Pretty light and portable. The only downsides are - 1. Acer's shitty restricted bios (wouldn't let you even turn on basic stuff like the virtualization options, and the processor supports it) 2. It came with a lot of bloatware. I had to uninstall and wipe the drive clean completely. And then it wouldn't let me install Windows anywhere besides the OEM drive. Oh, and I've switched the wireless module with an Intel one, because it wasn't reliable

[@mercury3]

have you managed to turn on virtualization yet? ill have to reconsider if its actually not something you can do

[@nuxxism]

I'm a software engineer in industrial environments. I got a gaming laptop, and the main reason was the keyboard, especially the arrow keys. If you code, you are using the arrow keys constantly, and having to go on site means an external keyboard is often not an option. There are so few noon-gaming/"office" laptops these days that have decently sized arrow keys. The GPU is nice for gaming too! The only negative tends to be battery life.

[@moonabhinav]

Really agree, these days people prefer small keyboard like 60% or small laptop keyboard without dedicated arrow keys and miss placed delete and ins buttons. I hate those keyboard layout thats destroy your productivity in a time constraints.

[@puh4532]

Vim will solve this issue :)

[@zoovy7252]

you could have checked the lenovo thinkpad series, i have one for my college and the keyboard is justt mmmmm

[@onyxkane]

@@zoovy7252 this "mmmmm" is wayy better in convincing me than someone saying "its best" XD

[@ChemistTea]

Which laptop did you get?

[@merf1988]

The difference between the GTX and RTX GPUs are the tensor cores found in the latter. These cores are specialized for machine learning applications because they can do more computations (e.g., matrix algebra, AI inference) per cycle.

[@AchwaqKhalid]

Been looking forward to this for a while 💪 Please in your future reviews do include a database benchmark in your productivity section 🖥

[@sabishiihito]

One benefit to the newest machines is the various flavors of USB-C offer access to high-speed external storage. Run your VMs, DBs etc on an external SSD.

[@GunterXLive]

Suggestion: Jarrod, an in depth review of what performs best for AI, ML and Data professionals, would be extremely welcome. This video is a great start!

[@HaiderAli-pp9go]

Any luck for finding a suitable laptop?

[@alimosaad6107]

Very nice explaination, thank you very much Jarrod and Josh 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@victorgodinez1036]

A big thanks for this video!

[@dudebro4089]

This is such an informative video. Not just for programmers. But in general as well...

[@PieterPrinsloo]

IMHO the ability to drive more than one monitor is quite important if you don't use an ultra wide external screen. Coding with 2 external monitors really help for 2 reasons: 1. You have more real estate, having an IDE, browser windows and terminals open. 2. This also helps with ergonomics as I don't have to stare down at a laptop screen which really strains your neck. This is a Godsent if you code the whole day. Having a portable solution is great but I would hate to develop full time on only a laptop screen.

[@-tsvk-]

Yeah, the whole ergonomics discussion is a bit of a moot point since 95% of the time a professional developer will have his/her laptop connected to a USB-C/Thunderbolt dock that connects to an external display (or two), keyboard and mouse, with the laptop lid closed.

[@Machtyn]

@@-tsvk- I keep the laptop open, it holds the chat windows / email, etc. And if I have to do a screen share, I'm not guaranteed the person I'm sharing with will have the ultrawide monitor that I have. So I have to use the lower res screen to share.

[@degenerate_kun_69]

Hi Jarrod! Thanks a lot for the recommendations!

[@ZhangMaza]

Nice to see Jarrod and Josh collaborating in this video, two thumbs up :)

[@zomgneedaname]

I feel like OS discussion should have been first. A ton of Dev is done on cloud VMs so whilst the OS of the local machine Matters less, win vs Unix like is so different that learning the right environment for a new starter is probably one of the most important decisions to make...

[@buzzlightyearoh]

And which OS do you think is superior for coding? Win or osx? I’m just a beginner and I recently upgraded my desktop and now my 2012 macbook air needs an upgrade. Unsure if I want mac or windows

[@percy9228]

@@buzzlightyearoh what are you going with? I'm a new CS student and making the decision

[@buzzlightyearoh]

@@percy9228 honestly I’m thinking of buying a used m1 air for 600€ or used m1 pro for 800€ since I already have a windows machine. It’s a hard choice tho

[@percy9228]

​@@buzzlightyearoh Been a windows user all my life, I've found workflow and little apps that make my windows experience tailored to me and main thing that scares me is moving over to OSx and not having that ease of workflow. BUT deep inside I have a feeling I'll adapt and OSx will have it's own optimisations that increase my productivity and workflow. I think a change for me would be good. Finally choosing MacOS is made easy since every KZbinr I watch that programmes and I aspire to be is using MacOS and they all recommend it over windows, so I might as well get used to the OS because I have a feeling I'll be needing OSx for my job. I'm getting a Macbook pro 14" If I need windows we have parallels also

[@fadibenshadi7165]

Two very experienced reviewers together in one video .. woooow .. I follow both of you and trust both of you and I'm happy to see you together here. Thank you from LIBYA

[@mt-qc2qh]

Replicating a production environment for debug and testing was always my need. Lots of storage (ie TB) and VMware required a lot of memory to be usable. I always had 16GB min in my laptops. I didn't do graphics programming, so GPU's were less important and just ran the battery down when traveling. The machine requirements varied over the years so picking the "perfect" laptop for programming is somewhat of a wild goose chase.

[@Sandeepan]

If you are into signal processing, RTX / tensor cores will be something nice to have. For my used case, 2TB Gen4 NVMe and 32GB RAM is a minimum (and easily reaches 128GB) 1080P@60Hz is enough for me, but the viewing angle is has to be wide. Keyboard has to be external, unless its a Thinkpad Workstation

[@dinithaw]

does laptops with more than 128GB of ram exists? honestly idk

[@Sandeepan]

@@dinithaw 64GB or 128GB exists, I don't know any that have more

[@dinithaw]

@Sandeepan HAHA Maybe Super expensive that i cannot afford LOL

[@erikreider]

My Thinkpad x1 carbon 9 runs Arch with sway perfectly. They even upload their bios updates to LVFS which makes updating it so much easier. It's just sad that they didn't ship it with a Zen 3 U series CPU

[@MichaelSullivanCincinnatux]

Great timestamp labels & solid content with real value.

[@bardofhighrenown]

If you're doing light ML/DL, the RT cores don't do anything, but the Tensor cores help a lot with that. RTX cards are vastly better at that kind of workload. If I remember my benchmarks correctly a 2060 is much faster than a 1080 ti for that reason.

[@nikilragav]

Are they not the same cores? I thought Ray tracing was performed on tensor cores?

[@bardofhighrenown]

@@nikilragav As I understand it they are separate

[@JoloNavarro]

The collab that I didn’t know I need! ❤️

[@neelsb7889]

Thanks guys. How about laptop choices for game developers (e.g. using Unreal Engine and Godot)...? Obviously then dedicated graphics are actually important. I am very interested in the ASUS ROG Flow X13, except that it has very limited upgrade options... especially since the RAM is soldered and it has no RAM slots... and also the use of the tiny m.2 3020 for the SSD instead of the more "standard" 3080 m.2. I wonder if ASUS could perhaps create a new version of the XG box, which adds 1 or 2 m.2 3080 storage slots! Would their proprietary PCIe connection between the laptop and the XG box allow for this along with the eGPU? Perhaps they could also create a low cost XG box which only has I/O ports and additional storage slots (1 or 2 added m.2 3080 as mentioned) and USB C and A ports as well as the card reader, without the eGPU? I'm guessing it would not be possible to add more RAM in such an XG module, due to the way it is connected...?

[@100uschallenge3]

Thankyou Jarrod 😀 it was really helpful

[@kickdogseal]

If battery is not of any concern, I think any gaming laptop will do the job really well for programming.

[@DirtyBobBojangles]

Why use a gaming laptop though?

[@bunyasitfang7668]

They’re powerful

[@kumartatsat868]

@@DirtyBobBojangles powerful CPU and GPU, with good thermals (hopefully). Fast refresh rates as well, and good range of ports as well

[@DirtyBobBojangles]

@@kumartatsat868 shutup dude.

[@leesahcage3297]

I love Josh's reviews!!!

[@sampleshawn5380]

It was really nice to see laptops for programmer video, few months back i was looking for video of this kind but it find any worthy video, did some research and found that acer aspire 7, as sometimes i do some esports gaming too.

[@ArnoldGaming]

Two of one of my favorite youtubers in a collab. Josh introduced me to Lenovo and you introduced me to the Legion line and both yall expanded my knowledge a lot with laptops. I appreciate that and also good vid.

[@11r3start11]

awesome, very relative and detailed. Thank you for such a collaboration. Please include a short comment or some short test that would be useful for developers in laptop reviews. :)

[@ItsMeProday83]

Happy new year to bouth of you!! I'd like to ask for advice; hp omen 16 (intel i7 3070), zephyrus g15 (amd/3070), or lenovo 5/or 5 pro (amd/3070)... which is the best pick right now?!

[@ditroia2777]

Welcome back to Australia Josh. I’d like to see some Australian specific recommendations on your channel, especially comparing how much better value PCs are compared to macs here, and we don’t get Amazon discounts here.

[@SirKakalaCh]

Just when I was looking for this and with JOSH also... this is just golden at the right time thank you guys so much

[@04dram04]

Hi Jarrod I have a question. Im in the market for a gaming laptop specifically for VR. I plan on using it for a few years with different wired and wireless vr headests. Some use a display port, some a usb a and c, and some are wireless through wifi. Im looking for a 3070 gpu or equivalent amd. I cant afford a 3080. Which do you think are the top three laptops i should consider in order? Also will a mux switch and advanced optimus make any difference for vr, only? Thanks so much. Also with massive rise in popularity of VR this year, I think a video specifically on my question might be popular.

[@nate_j_d]

Brilliant stuff guys!

[@Ghostintheshell3551]

Awesome video !

[@flupniks7301]

Hi jarrod, i have a legion y540 but it has alot of problems like black screen after i fill in my password, when i open a program like taskmanager it won't open it will send a error that is called you do not have the right permission to open it. Do you maybe know a fix? I tried setting it back to factory settings but if i click it it won't start. I hope you can help me.

[@YeOldeTraveller]

I use an Acer Spin 713 Chromebook as my travel laptop. It replaced an Acer C740 Chromebook. Being able to run Linux on these is great, and the battery life is fantastic. I've used these for expended periods without Internet access. The Spin 713 has USB-C charging, an HDMI port, and a USB-A port, The 3:2 screen has plenty of real estate for code and tools. The only thing it does not have is a GPU, but I don't need that in my use case. One thing that was not touched on is monitor support (and more number of rather than type or specs). Having another display or two is useful at times. I had a work laptop that supported 4 displays which was great. That was a portable workstation and was quite heavy. Another advantage for USB-C charging is the ability to use an external battery, but that does add weight.

[@LichKing300ification]

Thank you for inviting such a smart gentleman.. this video is all i needed Subscribed!

[@bryancalle7352]

I love these types of videos!!

[@AndyKunkel]

Hi Jarrod, love the content! The release of the ASUS ProArt Studiobook 16 is right around the corner, I was wondering if reviewing that is a plan for you. I'm looking to get it as my mobile workstation with DaVinci Resolve.

[@Minorock93]

Do you guys recommend a 14" laptop ? I've never used one of those for coding i've always been a 15.6" user outside and plugged to a 27" indoors, but I like the smaller size of the 14" which makes it easier to transport but would like to take an advice on using the screen for coding when an external monitor isn't available

[@iMissNintendo]

Wow you 2 are a resource I m looking up to and need for encouragement

[@leonardlitanius7078]

what about the laptop for the people like me around? i use laptop for 3d modelling, cads also solidworks and engineerinh stuff (you get the idea). what should i look into when i'm buying one? legion 5 pro with r7/3060 or asus g14 r9/3060 is on my aim now, i heard amd performs worse than intel on these stuff, please correct me

[@yorkipudd1728]

Didn't understand a thing, just watched to support Jarrod for covering topics outside of gaming. Cheers for the constantly evolving content.

[@frikitonxplosion]

Great video, i didn't hear any recommendation for any of the Thinkpads model as they have better keyboard feedback than any other windows laptop right ?

[@tucayjonas-bsit4256]

Big thanks for Jarrod now I have idea what laptop I need for programming ♥️

[@chrispotterfan]

very good and informative video, helped a lot thanks to the two of you!

[@JarrodsTech]

Great to hear!

[@Vilmir]

Tips for the choice of the screen: take a glossy one for boosting text clarity. Anti-glare layers have a tendency to make small text look bad, catastrophic when working on code. Unfortunately, good luck finding a hight res glossy laptop with gaming capacities. And no, the new M1 laptops are not gaming laptops, very few games actually run. But I agree, the macbooks are the best developer laptops available today, and they have been for quite some time now. Too bad you cannot game on them.

[@cameronbosch1213]

The other too bad is that Linux support is still in beta, and many of my coding IDEs (apart from Visual Studio Code) run via Rosetta 2 and quite poorly at that. I would stay away from Apple Silicon Macs if you're doing cross-platform development at least for right now.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Glossy panels need a good anti-reflective screen to be any good in most environments. Only Macs usually have that.

[@parasjain7425]

I found vivobook pro , proart studio book lineup have high Res oled glossy screen .

[@pkpnyt4711]

There are Asus laptops with oled screens with the 5600/5800 and 3050/ti that may fit the bill for what you're looking for.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@pkpnyt4711 OLED screens can be hit or miss depending on if the user is sensitive to PWM.

[@suvampandeya9566]

Jarroe it's the time to do this video again .. with awesome new laptops recommendations

[@mkonji8522]

Solid man and a welcomed collab.

[@gllnpnn8515]

the multiverse crossover i've been waiting all year. now we just need the hardware unboxed guys on here.

[@randomyoutubeaccount6906]

How do I cap FPS on a legion 5 pro to 60FPS for battery? (Sorry for unrelated i'm posting this everywhere because I can't find it)

[@mavericky1543]

Most programming work is typing in your code, looking over your code, and even run your backend servers. So yes, good core count cpu is good, however, high resolution screen, good keyboard (no numpad) and glass trackpad are elements that i find useful. My 8 year old Lenovo thinkpad still rocks and can run ant in about the same time as my desktop.

[@vladimirljubopytnov5193]

Yeah, I was kind of dying inside when he mentioned macbook air as low end suggestion, when you can have used thinkpad t420/x220 with keyboard of dreams that will never come true again :/

[@blackened1031]

The greatest upgrade that you can do as a software engineer is your own problem solving ability. Modern computers are fast enough to process everything you planned within a fraction of time you took for lining things up

[@LSI87]

Wow, impressive background Josh! Well Done!

[@matteobottazzi6847]

Fantastic content. Thanks!

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@amrosalah01]

I like gaming laptops for programming , i got 17 inch asus rog with 3 disks , plenty of memory . Big screen is always better with programming . full num pad is perfect also for programming . Thicker machines never get hot , like MSI Titan , Asus Rog , Clevo . If you have one of those you are pretty good to go .

[@juliang2333]

Yo, will a HP Victus be a good choice? I mean, quality is good, nice Cpu 15 inch screen and a gpu for some other tasks and making video games.

[@jaskiratbamrah13]

Great video, I use Lenovo ThinkPad it's old but work like gems.

[@youssefhesham6173]

i'm so glade you made this video because next year i'm gonna be in uni and gonna study computer science

[@strider029]

I use my Lenovo Legion 5 Pro with the 16" screen/ 16:10, the extra vertical pixels helped me a little.

[@yordyords]

Since you're talking about which laptop is good in programming, let me tell you about what happened to me a week ago (btw, it has something to do with the topic). Last month, I've started a course in C programming, and the machine that I started with, was a 7+ year old Toshiba Satellite P50-B, which had an Intel Core i7-4700HQ CPU (4C/8T), 8 GB of DDR3L RAM (1600 MHz), 1 TB SATA SSD (initially, it had a 1 TB HDD) and an AMD Radeon R9 M265X graphics. Since I was required to use Linux for to write and compile the code, I installed Ubuntu on a VM and the performance was passable (I had a lot of sluggish animations, since this machine is old). But last week, the matrix of the screen got broken, and since my tasks (online education, because I'm a student in a university + this programming course) requires to use two screens at the same time, getting a new laptop was urgent. And because my birthday was close, I got myself an HP Pavilion 15 (eh-1060-nu), which has an AMD Ryzen 5 5500U CPU (6C/12T, Zen 2) with an integrated Radeon Vega 7 GPU, 8 GB of DDR4 RAM (3200 MHz, and in dual channel mode, which I'm planning to upgrade soon to 16 GB) and a 512 GB NVMe SSD, and so far, it's a great machine. Yes, I got it in the worst time possible (due to the release of new laptops with the latest generation of CPUs), but as I said, I needed a new one immediately. Now, my Ubuntu VM runs better than my old one, the design and features are good for the price, but there's one drawback, and it's on the audio side. The DAC on this laptop sucks (it lacks bass and depth), so I recommend to get an external adapter, if you want great audio while having your wired headphones connected.

[@tech_realm]

Love the collab!

[@Javadamutt]

I done my computer science labs work using a netbook with an atom 230. Compiling was quick enough and the delays actually worked well as breaks. I wouldn’t discount the intel N6000 especially if it comes with a laptop with a good keyboard at a low price point. Above that I would prioritise memory. Even just having browser windows open with all the extra tools or 2 sometimes 3 IDE’s it’s amazing how often even 16gb runs out. I almost never use the laptop screen these days. It’s simply not big enough and I’m usually at some sort of desk at home or the office so having thunderbolt or some way of docking to run 2 or 3 large monitors. Currently using a 16” MacBook Pro intel version. OSX means we’re not locked down the same way as windows laptops. Previously used an HP Probook which was very good. My personally laptop is a matebook D and my only regret is not having thunderbolt for multi monitor due to the Ryan processor.

[@zduph6881]

I’m ready to buy new laptop but I’m trying to figure out which one I choose MacBook M1 and Hp specter X360 or Yoga slim7 pro. This are my favorites

[@ickdera]

I need a laptop for programming and playing games but I don't care about the medium or higher settings for my game. Therefore, I have 2 options between Legion 5 Ryzen 5800H RTX 3060 15" and Legion 5i i7 11800H RTX 3050Ti 15”. Which one should I choose? I'm aware of the Thunderbolt 4.0 and PCIe 4.0 on Legion 5i as well as the efficiency of battery and RTX 3060 on Legion 5. But I still have a hard time choosing between those two, especially for programming things. Feel free to give your preferences regarding this matter.

[@suheypeviz8333]

As with any computer you need a good motherboard specially for power delivery, robust cooling, rigid chasis. Then all the speed and power you can get. On battery an ultrabook won't last longer than a powerful machine if you are stepping on it. Only scenario an xps like would do better than a leopard like is if you want to just stare at the code 7 hours and run it for at most 15 minutes on battery.

[@elidrissii]

Awesome shirt. Best Insomnium album. Leads me to trust your judgment in laptops.

[@EL-sc9on]

Hey Jarrod can you upload a video on how to optimize the legion 7 for best battery and other stuff like you did with legion 5

[@d.p.thakkar4435]

Jarrod, dont know you will reply or not but still asking. Dell G5 15 Ryzen 5 5600h RTX3050 VS Asus Rog Strix G15 ryzen 7 4800h RTX3050. What to Choose?