How to pick the seats in the C8 Z06

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Quick update: The GT2 seat is *NOT* the default seat for the 2LZ trim, only for 3LZ. The GT1 appears to be default for 1LZ and 2LZ trim levels. Apologies for the mis-statement. Good catch Mark!

[@johnmoorhousedecorated-nam899]

No problemo

[@AM-vy2pp]

GT1 seats have lumbar support, heating and cooling with 2LZ package.

[@youcdtube]

Fred thanks some good info here. I could be wrong, but I read on the website that the extra lumbar position control and seat adjustibility is offered on the GT1 and track seats only if you order a 2LZ or 3LZ option no adjustibility for any seat with a 1LZ order

[@dans1299]

Facts

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Davie, That's really interesting, thanks for sharing that. I hadn't found much/any info on why some GT1's had lumbar controls, and why some didn't. This makes sense to me, thanks for sharing! -Fred

[@bigbluezo6]

And the GT1 seats come with Hated and Venellated on 2LT trim

[@ronaldchristensen4243]

Fred this episode was spot on for a lot of folks. I do have a “con” however for the GT2 seats that you’ve missed. Is perfectly illustrated in your photos. Light colored inserts on the GT2’s out of the box look dirty. This phenomenon seems to be a direct result of the perforations pattern. When my friend and I saw and sat in the pre-production C8 Stingray the GM technician conducting the Dealers Tour apologized for the dirty look of the seats. His explanation was that thousands of folks have sat in them as the Stingray circulated through large numbers of dealers hosting the tours. Not so, again from your photo, and certainly in real life the GT2’s appear to have heavy wear/soil in the center most areas of both the cushion and seat backs. Another feature available that you failed to mention, is the option of sueded micro fiber inserts, available on all three of the seats. GT1 and GT3 (Competition Sport Seats) have differences in the perforation patterns that don’t create this appearance. I’m opting for GT3 seats on my C8 Z07 as I found my Comp seats in my C7 Z07 to be very comfortable even for the 3K mile trip home to Northern California from the NCM. I am smaller in stature than you and that, I believe is a major contributor to that comfort. I’m an Autocross, HPDE, and aggressive driver, so the extra bolstering is not only comfortable for me but I enjoy all the “control” benefits you described. I also opt for the sueded micro fiber inserts that provides additional “anti-slip/slide”, as well as all the Alcantera (sueded micro fiber) benefits of cooler after sitting in the sun, and a less cold feel in the winter. The Alcantera inserts do, however, seem to mitigate (not remove) the dirty seat look on the GT2’s. When black inserts are specified, the dirty look disappears. Definitely a consideration that buyers should be aware of. Thanks again for a great vlog.👍

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Those are both really great points Ronald, thanks for reaching out, and mentioning them. I too have thought the same regarding the "dirty" look to the venting on lighter colored finishes. As you mentioned I haven't noticed it on the black seats as well. You are spot on with the suede inserts as well, I didn't delve into that, instead mentioning the "additional fabric and finishes" for the higher trim seats. I try to be as thorough as I can, but clearly missed on that. I wish I had an option to tweak/update videos, but there isn't one. Maybe on my upcoming deep dives I'll find a way to work those points in, thanks for giving me something to think about! I think you're right about the smaller stature and fitting better in the comp seats, that completely makes sense. Personally I hope I can get some seat time in the comp seats in a Stingray in advance of placing my order, to see just how comfortable (or not) I am. I prefer a "snug" seat, though that might be outweighed by my wife wanting comfort. Thanks again! -Fred

[@polystictus]

I did notice that "dirty" look. I would really have to sit in a GT3 seats to determine if I could live with them and know how the black trim on them works with the interior color I wanted. Or is the black trim an option?

[@lorenzodelillo2515]

Another fun video, Fred! I'm with you on this one: GT2 all the way. Perfect balance of comfort and performance. I also really like the series you're putting together about comparing and contrasting the many options the Z06 will offer. It's going to be really fun to watch your analysis as I build my Z06 each week along with you. Maybe you'll even convince me to go with different options along the way!

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Lorenzo! Nice to hear from you! Thanks for the kind words! I'm really having a good time thinking through these videos, and planning them out. I think it will help people frame each option a bit better, and like you said may even change some minds! As I've been starting my homework on several of the options, I may even change my own mind on a few things! Have a nice day! -Fred

[@williamhocter4658]

Great content . I agree with your choice and the content confirmed what I had been thinking. Agree completely about not buying a car for the next owner.

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi William, Thanks for reaching out! I'm with you, it seems ridiculous to me that people care so much about what others might like. Nice to know I'm not the only one who feels this way! While I take pride in caring for my possessions, and do my best to keep them in great shape, I'm not going to sweat putting miles on the car (in fact quite the opposite, I'll add as many as I can!). Have a nice weekend! -Fred

[@SocalGT]

Thanks for the ‘deep dive.’ Looking forward to more.

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Jon, Thanks for reaching out, and for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it, and more will be on the way! Have a nice day! - Fred

[@johnmoorhousedecorated-nam899]

You definitely convinced me to change my seats. GT2 Heating/Cooling a definite, Thanks

[@FredsFullThrottle]

My pleasure man, glad it was helpful!

[@Tbob17]

I have comp seats in my 24 z06 and can attest that they are much more comfortable than the c7 comp seats…great padding and the adjustments form fit you for some spirited driving…

[@darylcoston1554]

Great video sir. This has help me with my decision. I will choose the GT2 as well. Thanks

[@FredsFullThrottle]

My pleasure Daryl, glad this helped! Have a nice day and thanks for the kind words! - Fred

[@Pmtd1234]

Fred, If I was going to be primarily track focused I would go with the competition seats. In reality, although I will track the car a few times a year, there will be many more miles put on running in the mountains, so comfort is more important. For the track I will install a racing harness. I wish GM would have an option to install anchor brackets for a harness. Suggestion: Once GM starts Z06 production you should post a video wherein we track our progress in the order queue. I know you saw a comment in one of your videos from someone buying through Ciocca wanting to track that as well. Each week when MacMulkin & Ciocca updates the order queue we could post the change in our respective status. Sully

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Sully, Agreed, it does seem like anchor points either built in, or at least as a factory accessory would be a popular option. I'm curious in the HTC where they could/would mount, I know the Coupe they can be mounted aftermarket, but haven't done much looking on the HTC. Thanks for the suggestion as well! Once orders start going in, I'll definitely be tracking the order queues, and try to report on the allocations between Ciocca and MacMulkin. I think there's a lot of interest in how that plays out, so definitely something worth covering. Have a nice day! -Fred

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

The dirt you see on the natural dip and sky cool grey is from dyes from clothes. I have the scg seats and don't wear blue jeans when I drive my car. They are GT1 and the only area I'm lacking is heated seats. I will take the top off all the way down to 40 degrees. Electric jackets and crank up the heat and it's good. Heated seats would make it even more comfortable. As far as racing, remember you put the seat all the way back, get in, put your seatbelt on. Get it to lock. Then move the seat forward until it's comfortably snug. Then hit the pedal.. I use a Mcquiers leather clean/condition wipe about once a week to minimize color transfer and cracking of the leather on the bolsters. So far so good. I am looking at the aftermarket for heated seats. About $400 per side installed.

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Thereissomecoolstuff, If you could do it all over again, would you still have gotten the GT1, or would you have gone for the GT2's?

[@Hangin_With_Shane]

Fred, Great idea in breaking down your videos into Z06 segments/options! I feel it will really help people to make a decision when choosing some options or features so it will be exciting to see how these upcoming videos go! I have a more practical take on my feature and option choices. The 2LZ package is for me. The right amount of features to make it a comfortable driver for long road trips. I also plan to hit occasional track days too once or twice a year. I did have a question relating to the options/features and tracking the car. I am really considering the HTC because of my road tripping desire and the physical loss of storage space once the hard top is put into the trunk. Question: Will the HTC have an issue with track time because it's a convertible? I appreciate your thoughts on this or please factor this question into the Coupe vs HTC segment! Be well my friend!

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Shane! Thanks for the kind words. You read my mind, I've already been reading up on the HTC and anything I can find about track restrictions for the car. I plan to cover this specifically (partly because it's something I specifically am interested in as well), because I think a lot of people want to occasionally track their cars, and want the flexibility to do that, while also the benefits of HTC. Consider it done! Have a nice day man, -Fred

[@Hangin_With_Shane]

@@FredsFullThrottle Awesome, Be well my friend!

[@tmcternan47]

Another great vlog Fred. I see you've met my partner in crime "Ronald Christensen" below. Ditto on his points regarding the perforations causing the lighter colors to appear dirty all the time with the GT2 seats. Both Ron and I are planning on ordering the "natural dipped" interiors with the 3LZ option, but the appearance of looking dirty all the time, even with the sueded seat insert and back option has created a great deal of conflict in choosing between the GT2's and the Competition seats... Personally, I feel so strongly about the contant dirty appearance from the perforation pattern, I'm almost willing to tolerate less comfort on long trips than deal with the seats always appearing dirty. I guess it's just a matter of aesthetics versus function.... Decisions decisions.....

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Tom, Yeah, one of the areas I didn't get into is the aesthetics of the various seats, and Ronald's good points about the "looking dirty" because of the ventilation. It certainly looks very different depending on the color of the seats, and I can understand wanting to prevent that if at all possible, especially on a lighter colored material. Good luck on those choices! -Fred

[@polystictus]

Good idea analyzing the option choices. I like the looks of the GT2 seats and the little extra freedom to relax. I would not be racing my car. Having carbon fiber is important to me for looks so it is good that these seats have that trim. I also am a bit hesitant about the black trim on the Competition seats. It may not fit well unless you had the black of the Carbon Fiber 2 option interior pieces. If someone is going an all black interior, this is obviously not a factor.

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi RTBasey, Nice to hear from you. Agreed, your logic makes sense. Even for me doing *some* track stuff, I don't like the hard line tradeoff for the comp seats. GT2's for me! Have a nice evening, -Fred

[@tgchris2222]

Great and helpful video. If you can do one on Z07 package versus individual carbon flash pieces, that would help me a lot.

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi TG Chris2, Thanks for the kind words and compliments! You read my mind with regards to other deep dives. That's the plan, I'll be delving into ALL the other aspects of the car and the options, to help other buyers (and to help me sort out what options I want). I'm going to be alternating with news videos, every other week, so it will be a few videos from now, but the Z07 package is already one I'm taking notes on for how I'll cover it. Thanks for watching and have a nice weekend! -Fred

[@polystictus]

Hi Fred, came back to again review your analysis of the seat options to compare to the opinion of another KZbinr who has just run a video with his ideas. He is a big guy and seems quite fond of the Comp seats. I worry a bit about the high bottom bolster and what difficulty there might be for ingress and potential wear after many uses that might "damage" those bolsters. So far my only experience was a short test of Comp seats by sitting in an EX car at a dealership months ago but with so much to take in in, I didn't do much of an analysis. Would like to have had a GT2 equipped car to compare to. I also note the "dirty" look of the perforations on a GT2 leather seating surface. However, I will likely not go for the dipped choice due to the reflection off the windshield. I'm wondering how the Comp seat really avoids the "dirty" look unless that seating surface is not leather. I was thinking of avoiding the alcantera type seating surface as I think that then extends to the steering wheel and I'm not sure that wears well with moisture and dirt transfer from hands.

[@kerry_glock]

Although I took possession of my 2022 C8 HTC on 3/4/2022 the only seat time I have had, has been in my garage. I’m not the biggest guy: 5’ 7” and 170, but the GT2 Seats feel pretty tight. There’s no way I would go for the tight Competition Seats! At 67, I’m not going to be tracking ZO6 in all likelihood. So, I’m more interested in comfort. Therefore, it’s going to be the GT2 Seats if I get an opportunity to Spec a ZO6 in the future. It may take 3-4 years minimum to get close to getting an allocation, and a lot could change in options and offerings. Perhaps even a C9? Thanks Fred for the great information and perspectives as always. Doug

[@Pmtd1234]

Why no running track at 67? I am 74 and will be running track. Paul Newman was racing (endurance races) through age 81. Age is only a number!

[@kerry_glock]

@@Pmtd1234 Unfortunately I have a serious medical problem/disease

[@Pmtd1234]

@@kerry_glock Sorry to hear that. I thought it was just the age issue. Enjoy your Z06!

[@kerry_glock]

@@Pmtd1234 I don’t mind saying, it’s not a good one, Pancreatic Cancer. Been on chemo since mid 2019 Hey, I got my C8, hope to enjoy it soon and if God blesses me with more time, I hope to see a ZO6!!!

[@Pmtd1234]

@@kerry_glock Wishing you all the best in fighting this! And miles of smiles in your Corvette!

[@jimmiddleton825]

Fred please do a video on the wheel options comparing carbon fiber to the forged aluminum

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Jim, That's the plan! As mentioned at the start of this video, I'm going to be going option by option through the car, alternating with my latest news videos. Wheels are one of the next options I'm covering, but I don't know exactly when. Stay tuned though, I will cover it! -Fred

[@Jams1187]

keep it up Fred. thx

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Glad you enjoyed it Jim! Several more of these on their way soon! - Fred

[@jefferyhoward9514]

GREAT INFO..

[@okaythen001]

Are you sure GT1 seat won't have heater/AC for Z06? For stingray you can pick GT1 and get heater/AC.

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Josh, I'm fairly certain that's correct. I saw your comment and went on the C8 Configurator on the website, and with the base model car, I don't see an option to spec heat/cooling for the 1LT with GT1 seats. *UPDATE* - So it looks like they wrapped the heating and cooling into the 2LT package. You can apparently have the GT1 seats with ventilation, but have to spec up your trim package to do so. With the 1LT, it appears you cannot get ventilation for the seats. I did a fair bit of looking, and didn't realize this was the case. So seat options vary with the trim package, I didn't realize they weren't fully independent (other than fabric/colors). I'll mention this in my upcoming trim package deep dive. Sorry for the confusion!

[@okaythen001]

@@FredsFullThrottle Thanks a lot for that! Man they make it as confusing as possible to make more money, poeple gotta really figure it out etc., Really confusing but thanks for your videos it makes it easier for car buyers.

[@kevinhicks3294]

Great video Fred. As always. It's amazing that I was about to search for the difference between the 3 Seats and your video was on my home screen b4 the search. I have one question though. I'm a big guy like 265. You think I'll be comfortable in a GT2 seat? I wanted to get that one but if it'll be too tight I'll go with the GT1 on my 2LZ. I'm number 445 at Ciocca. You think they'll get that many allocations the 1st year. I'm hoping 😂

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Kevin, nice to hear from you again! I must have picked up on your thoughts to inspire me for the video! :) To answer your question, I could find nothing in my searching that talked about the bolsters/comfort on the GT1 vs the GT2 being different. I looked at pictures of the 2 seats from the Z06 and Stingray displays side by side, and visually the only big differences I could see were the cut of the leather in the backrest and the connected headrest in the GT1. To elaborate, based on everything I found, I don't think the GT2 is narrower or tighter than the GT1. I see the GT2 as the up-spec version of the GT1. Same overall frame/shape, but including the floating head rest, ventilation, and lumbar. I didn't find any documentation that said otherwise, though there's a chance I missed something. I would highly recommend sitting in both at a dealership (even if just in a Stingray) to help inform your decision. Hypothetically if you had to choose without being able to sit in one, I'd go GT2. The ventilation alone is worth it on a hot day (us bigger gentlemen tend to run warm, am I right?), and all other things being equal I feel like that sways towards the GT2. The lumbar support also probably can help on a long drive (I don't use mine often, but once in a while I do). I think the GT2 is probably your best bet, but if you have the opportunity, definitely see if you can sit in one. Hope this helps Kevin. Thanks for reaching out, nice to hear from you again! Have a nice weekend! -Fred

[@kevinhicks3294]

@@FredsFullThrottle Thanks Fred. Yes we do run warm lol. I never would've thought you were 6'4" looking at your videos. What you think about that allocation at Ciocca? I'm 445.

[@FredsFullThrottle]

@@kevinhicks3294 Hi Kevin, Hehe, yeah I'm pretty tall, I built my workbench to suit my height (it's about 4" taller than a normal workbench) so it ends up making me look about average height. I think you're probably close to the borderline between year 1 and year 2. Once production begins, and it starts to pan out with allocations at the larger dealerships, that'll really help establish likelihood of which year you'll be. Either way, that's a great spot in line, you gotta be excited! -Fred

[@Brooks22n]

Are you sure the GT2 seats are Standard on the 2LZ ? , , on my Stingray on the 2LT Interior Option the GT2 Seats were a $1495 Option

[@FredsFullThrottle]

That's a good point. I was using the visualizer to guide some of my information, and upon reloading it, it does show the GT1's. My mistake, I'll pin a note to the top of the video comments. My intent was not to mislead, I was doing my best to get accurate information, and multiple times I checked and it seemed to be the case, not apparently realizing that by default the visualizer was selecting the GT2.

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Fixed, and pinned.

[@justinfabbott]

Maybe I missed it but how is this video on seats for the ZO6 any different that the standard C8 model seats?

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Justin, Thanks for reaching out, nice to hear from you! To your point, there isn't much (if any) difference between what's offered in the Z06 and the Stingray, based on all the information that's been announced by GM. I indicated as much near the end of the video (with the suggestions about how to try each seat out in person before you decide). That said, GM could always sneak something in that we're not aware of, but at a minimum the seats at the dealer tour looked 1:1 to my eye. If you're a current Stingray owner, then this video may be of limited use to you. However many of the upcoming videos are for options the Z06 has exclusively, so there won't be much or any overlap. That said, the reason for this video (and several deep dives following), is there's been really strong interest from my viewers on me doing "deep dives" on each aspect of the options/configuration for the Z06, since many of us (myself included) are wading through the options to figure out how we want to spec our orders when our reservations get called. Each video will take one aspect of the car, and dive as deep as I'm able to (with whatever amount of information that GM has provided to that point) and do an overview of the option, talk through the choices, share the pros/cons of each, and ultimately I'll also share what my choice is on that item. Many of us (myself included again) haven't spent much or any time in a C8, so I'm treating it like a clean slate sharing my thoughts and observations as I have them. Hope that helps clarify. Have a nice weekend! -Fred

[@koreanclockshop]

Best seat for someone 6’6? I’ve driven a c8 once and I think the seats were g2… was tight but workable. I was planning on going g1 seats but you sold me on the practicality of heated and cooled seats. Do you think the height and “tightness” is same on gt1 & 2 seats?

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Sterling! As far as I've been able to find, the GT1 and GT2's have the same overall dimensions. I'm not aware of any sizing differences or comfort differences between them, other than the additional features on the GT2. Everything being equal, I think the GT2 is essentially just a "nicer" GT1. My best advice versus the height stuff, would be to talk with a dealership, and see if a salesperson can walk you through any differences, and hopefully let you sit in one of each (in a car). The key thing I'd look for is to see how low the seat can be adjusted (if at all). Also, I've heard (though haven't confirmed) that the roof in the HTC is internally a bit higher than the coupe, so that might buy you a half inch to an inch (or something like that). Every little bit will help it sounds like. Good luck! -Fred

[@jonathanp6671]

What has been said here is incorrect. You do get heating and cooled seats with GT1 seats. Its not a "seat" option, it comes with the 2LT package. I have that package.

[@koreanclockshop]

@@jonathanp6671 thanks for the heads up. You happy with the gt1s? I just want comfort / daily driving

[@FredsFullThrottle]

@@jonathanp6671 I already corrected it in the comments and will mention it in a future video.

[@pht0001]

Do you know what each seat weighs?

[@donmatzeder4816]

Z06 order sheet does not list the gt1 seat at all

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Hi Don, I saw that as well, however a few things to consider. The sheet that was leaked is not confirmed by GM to be complete, it may be missing options or information. Not saying it is, but it could be. Also, the visualizer shows the seat options, and even tells you it's changing the seat back to GT1 when you move from 3LZ to 1LZ: "Selecting 1LZ will change the following: REMOVE TRIM LEVELS - 3LZ SEAT TYPE - GT2 COLORS - Adrenaline Red ADD TRIM LEVELS - 1LZ SEAT TYPE - GT1 COLORS - Jet Black" The visualizer could be wrong, but I would caution not to put too much stock in a leaked set of screenshots, especially early on, as not all options may have been added to the system yet as they populate the backend for the upcoming order process. Time will tell, and soon enough we'll know for sure. Thanks for reaching out, and have a nice day! -Fred

[@mindmusclemeditation9768]

My gt1 seats on my lt2 have heat and ventilation.

[@stackenali7059]

I have that same T.E. shirt. #CCIE

[@FredsFullThrottle]

Haha nice! IT Engineers represent! :)