How To Play Fast Drum Grooves - Moeller Technique/Finger Control

Rule number one for playing fast on the hi-hat in drum grooves - practice it until your hand falls off!
For fast grooves the two technique options are:
Playing a Moeller-style whipping motion
Using finger control
Have fun working on and using these, and please let me know if any questions :)
Mike
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"Genius is just perseverance in disguise"

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Ha yeah one of my favourites, it's so true! Thanks for watching :)

[@thyself8004]

This was probably the best explanation of both the moeller technique and the finger technique that I’ve seen. I especially appreciate how you talked about in real-world practice, these are not strictly separate techniques but are blended together. One problem I am having when using the finger technique is I can’t seem to get both hands to work properly when I start to offset one hand to perform a “true” two handed single stroke roll. Individually, I can do the technique quite fast, and when I play with both hands in unison I can also play fast, but when I offset one hand to perform a real roll my hands fall apart. Do you have any suggestions for working through this problem?

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Brilliant explanation...liked your statement " practice till your hands fall off ! 😊"

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Ha ha, cheers for watching Julian :)

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Another great lesson, Mike! Thanks. Makes me realize how week my left hand is when I attempt to do things as they should be done.

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Brilliant!! Never thought about the shoe thing. I've been trying to think how I could practice in my office here at work and a pad wouldn't work out but the shoe thing will!

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You are a very excellent teacher. Probably the best I've watched on KZbin. That's why I'm a subscriber. Thanks, man🤟

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Cheers Steven, really glad you've found the channel useful. Thanks for watching! :)

[@ericiidx]

Thanks for emphasizing how much practice and time this requires to learn! I watched a handful of videos and thought I could get used to this in a day or two, by simply knowing the mechanics involved. Not so! I was starting to worry that maybe drumming just wasn't for me. I've been at it for about a week, and only now is it starting to feel like a comfortable motion. Speed & uniformity is still under construction, though!

[@davegill7614]

So helpful mike...I've just started on both....I feel like an octopus ha ha...hands and fingers all over the place lol

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Fantastic explanation. You really do put it across well without being too confusing. Thanks & keep up the good work.

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Cool man, glad helpful and thank you for watching :)

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Cheers!

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Thank you very much. That’s an excellent tutorial. Very informative and clear demonstration. Hope to learn more from you. Cheers.

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Great stuff, cheers! Lots more on the channel to explore. All the best man 👊🏻

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Good stuff, thanks for watching Jase! :)

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Great video and well explained as usual Mike

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Cheers Alan, hope you're well!

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Brilliant lesson, thanks

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Cool, thanks for watching :)

[@21namadgir49]

Hi Mike, thanks for the clearly explained techniques on Moeller and finger control! In the song by System of a down “Jet Pilot” in the verse do you think John is using the moeller technique to play the eighth note pattern?

[@MikeBarnesDrums]

Cheers, yes - the accent pattern is more varied than the simple down/up shown here though.

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I use the drum stool as a practise pad lol Do I need a practise pad?

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Hey man, kit tour here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWqwaWh8eq2lmJI Practice pad I'm playing is a Roland Rhythm Coach. Cheers for watching!

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There was no menton of finger technique for the up stroke on the moeller.

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How about the American Grip?

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Not really a different grip IMO, just a slightly different rotation of the hand. Nothing against it at all, always just slightly found the stick comes down at more of an angle in that position which I felt I didn't want/wasn't helpful. Great if it works for you though. Cheers.

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