How to Properly Clean Table Tennis Rubber 🏓

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@CloudsFPV
@CloudsFPV Жыл бұрын
I use two steps: Wipe off paddle with water and sponge rinse clean sponge now use solution and sponge to clean rubber This way you are removing the majority of the loose dust with the water and you will then have a clean sponge and clean solution to rub over your paddle. Try to avoid rubbing dirt and dust into the rubber pores.
@terry_willis
@terry_willis 10 ай бұрын
This makes great sense. Thanks. Funny how you can learn more by reading comments than from the video itself.😄
@Gobio2
@Gobio2 Жыл бұрын
Any non-abrasive sponge will do, the best is polyamide covered one, I've got one from Tibhar (the same delicate material used to clean kitchen tables or window glazing). What bothers me is the hard rubbing of the rubber surface presented by the author of the video. For cleaning, any specialized agent from TT producers will work, but running water with a drop of dish soap for degreasing will be the best. If I'm in a hurry and need the rubber to dry quickly, I use just some window cleaner based on alcohol, as this does not chemically affect rubber. I have a spray solution to which I added a few drops of dish soap and it works perfectly. If I want to have extra clean surface and what is important the best grip it can offer, I use additionally the spray for rubber print rollers, which is specially designed for cleaning and restoring the grip of these rollers (essential for precision printing), I bought mine just for some 5 € a 100ml spray(I bought it a year ago and the bottle is still half full), the brand is AF International, the German name Platenclene, but there are several available on the market and I believe they are all good for our purpose.
@vtnguyen0611
@vtnguyen0611 2 жыл бұрын
I only used my own sweat after playing.
@pieceofcrap7167
@pieceofcrap7167 8 ай бұрын
The best way
@ThienNguyen-ef2kg
@ThienNguyen-ef2kg Ай бұрын
I ruined my H3 doing that, don't do it if you have salty sweat, or maybe with any of your fluid at all, since your skin isn't clean to begin with. just use regular water damn.
@munteanucatalin9833
@munteanucatalin9833 Ай бұрын
@@ThienNguyen-ef2kg I have a H3 and Vega X for 4 years now and going... Do NOT boost it. Clean it regularly with Rev no 3 cleaner and rejuvenation and wipe it with a microfiber cloth. Let it dry naturally and store your racket in a dry place inside a casing. That is it... H3 play 80-85% as new after 4 years. Vega is a little bit more deteriorated, but I will change both soon.
@Equaaz
@Equaaz 2 жыл бұрын
1. Do not use cleaning product too often. 2. Demineralized water is sufficient for regular cleaning. 3. Any special table tennis sponge is suitable. 4. Immediately after cleaning, apply a protective film (Donic Formula, Nittaku, etc.) to the rubber, removing air bubbles with a roller. 5. Remove the films before playing, the rubber will be clean and the tiny dust will stick to the film. Your cleaning method is too aggressive, especially on sticky rubber. Our rubbers wear out just by rubbing a small plastic ball ... so imagine with a degreaser and a sponge ... Have fun
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
1. A non-aggressive cleaning table tennis spray is okay to clean your rubber with after every table tennis session in my opinion. It’s meant for cleaning and protecting your rubber - (Diluting a solution is also an idea, if it’s too aggressive). Although, I usually prefer a non-foamy cleaning spray or sprays that don’t contain a lot of soap. The Tibar Grip spray used in the video works as it should. Tibar states that it’s a “cleaner that cleans and prolongs the life of your rubbers and improves their grip”; which is why I personally use it and believe it does a good job. Also, there are many other good sprays that work just as well! 2. I agree. Demilitarized water works just fine, although it does not dissolve or remove the oils from fingers or sweat that build up on your rubber that easily. That is why most rubber cleaners have a small amount of a cleaning agent. 3. Yes, any “special cleaning sponge” should be suitable. As stated in the video some cleaning sponges leave remnants on the table tennis rubber, like the Butterfly Cotton Sponge. Nonetheless, when using most “special cleaning sponges”, whether they leave remnants or not, the rubber is suitable for playing just fine; also stated in the video. 4. Agreed. Although, rather than a roller, I just use my fingers to remove the air bubbles from the protective film. 5. Yes! Definitely remove the films before playing🤓. Also, I try to avoid getting dust on the films. True, I was cleaning the black rubber a little bit too aggressively. I even stated that I wanted to “do more of a deep clean” for the purpose of the video and test the Butterfly Cotton Sponge results under good light. Although when cleaning the red rubber, you’ll see that I gently used the Butterfly Clean Care Sponge and it worked perfectly the first time leaving absolutely no dust, oils or sponge remnants behind. I thought that was pretty amazing. Thanks for the input!
@maciejguz9253
@maciejguz9253 2 жыл бұрын
4. What jf i dont have that? Will just a regular sponge and tap water be good?
@raikiro797
@raikiro797 Жыл бұрын
@@maciejguz9253 You don't really need a branded rubber film to protect your rubbers, just something to prevent dust buildup when you're not using the racket. In reality, a piece of paper will do fine assuming that you can make it stick to the rubber's surface.
@maciejguz9253
@maciejguz9253 Жыл бұрын
@@raikiro797 alr thanks
@CloudsFPV
@CloudsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@raikiro797 I use plastic adhesive sheets from the craft/fabric store and it works perfect plus is very cheap.
@orakeljoe9611
@orakeljoe9611 2 жыл бұрын
I got my first racket in '92 or '93 can't remember...I was 11 or 12. It was a SKITT blade, SKITT Anaconda on bh and Yasaka MarkV on fh (can't remember the thickness). As kids when we cleaned our bats we went to the sink in the classroom 😄, holding the rubber under a low stream of water on both sides then with a shaking motion got rid of the water. Immediately after that we applied a protective foil and used a ruler in a 45 degree angle to scrape the foil in order to get airbubbles out. Totally insane since the water was soaked in the wood when no care was taken... I always cleaned it that way and my bat held 3+ years. This is just a childhood memory and no tutorial 🤷🏻‍♂️.
@iggytsang4326
@iggytsang4326 2 жыл бұрын
I got my first blade when i was 9 back in 1977. it was a carbon fiber blade. i think i had a Stellan Bengtsson carbon fiber blade. Mark V has been around since the 70's . I started using Sriver and long pimples (for backhand)
@yashikakarthikeyan3674
@yashikakarthikeyan3674 Жыл бұрын
Mine was 2011 I was 9
@runvexgg
@runvexgg Жыл бұрын
same. we clean our rubbers under running tap
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib Жыл бұрын
It's really funny about all the divergent things i have heard about cleaning table tennis rubbers. When i was in school (1970s) water was BAD. You were told to NEVER let water touch the rubber, it would ruin it. My next spate of activity was in the 1980s and 90s - water was now OK and touching the rubber with your hand was BAD - oils from your skin would get into the rubber and ruin it. People used dishwashing detergent to clean their rubbers. Fast forward to about 2015.. now oil was GOOD.. after all, people were applying baby oil and other (expensive) oils to "boost" their rubbers, this made the rubbers softer and you got more spin and speed. Besides there were all sorts of videos of pros wiping off their bats with their hands during games. So i dunno.. these days after playing i just put some water on the rubber, wipe it off with my hand, let it dry for a few minutes and then put the protector sheets (these days just a large Ziploc bag) on and put it away.
@gdevelek
@gdevelek Жыл бұрын
Your sponge will collect and keep all these particles no matter what you do. I use a fresh piece of cotton, soaked in warm water and squeezed. After drying it up by air alone, I wrap the racket in food-wrap membrane. The stickiness of the rubbers simply refuses to drop. Because the cotton is fresh every time, and so is the wrap. At almost zero cost. I see no reason to waste money on specialized cleaners.
@CloudsFPV
@CloudsFPV Жыл бұрын
What is the cotton for???
@gdevelek
@gdevelek Жыл бұрын
@@CloudsFPV For rubbing, what else...
@noelmoralde6242
@noelmoralde6242 4 ай бұрын
Agreed! Wrap it while it is still kinda damp. Stickiness remains as good as new.
@inrhythmsportsllp5902
@inrhythmsportsllp5902 6 ай бұрын
Try Revolution 3.0 only 2 drop good enough it not only cleans it's rejuvenator
@Rayz248
@Rayz248 2 жыл бұрын
For cleaning i only used a water or my own sweat
@mohdsoffi902
@mohdsoffi902 6 ай бұрын
Same goes to me. My new setup abs 3 anti spin + longpip ox with donic cayman blade. 100% defend and distracted ball. Wowwwwww
@somasaha5386
@somasaha5386 8 ай бұрын
Can i use tape and put it and take it out to remove the dust? Or it will damage the stickyness?
@elchorizogamer2077
@elchorizogamer2077 5 ай бұрын
eso le quitará pegajosidad al hule, lo hice con una raqueta que tenía por ahí
@tenisdemesabymarc
@tenisdemesabymarc 8 ай бұрын
Si es muy importante limpiar las gomas ! ❤ Recomiendo
@iggytsang4326
@iggytsang4326 2 жыл бұрын
I used to the sponge and acetone 45 years ago!
@tenisdemesabymarc
@tenisdemesabymarc 8 ай бұрын
Uff acetona muy fuerte!
@me-mikeyyt9703
@me-mikeyyt9703 3 ай бұрын
should i use the butterfly clean care sponge? and will it actually clean the dust,dirt and sweat?
@Gymrat35
@Gymrat35 6 ай бұрын
I use rubber cleaning spray and a normal dishes sponge I do it only one time and it‘s better than your second time with the butterfly sponge lol
@idrivearttabletennis
@idrivearttabletennis 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video. And I do clean my rubber sheets after each daily use. I was wondering how you liked your handle wrap. What I use is not made anymore and I've tried the heat-shrink wraps and don't care for the feel. Thanks.
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
I love the wrap. I made a video on it: How to WRAP Grip Tape - Table Tennis Racket/ Paddle/ Bat kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqHEmaWJoLCZmaM
@eduardoarosemena655
@eduardoarosemena655 2 жыл бұрын
Try here for handle wraps www.paddlepalace.com/
@ZantierTasa
@ZantierTasa Жыл бұрын
Put your hand under a cold tap, and wipe the rubber. Repeat until you can't feel any dirt. Shake the bat and your hand, and wipe the bat with your hand to spread the water so it evaporates quicker. Once the bat is fully dry and grippy, put it back in its case. My Palio Expert 2 still worked very well after 4 years, and I just did this after every 1-3 sessions.
@kerrin6633
@kerrin6633 10 ай бұрын
Even though it works the oil from her hands isn't cleaned from the rubber - you need to use a bit of detergent to break down the oils. However the main point is to not have dust on your racket
@jazzman1954
@jazzman1954 Ай бұрын
So dead skin and grease applied nicely! 😂 😵‍💫To be honest I rarely clean my bat.
@metoo9357
@metoo9357 Жыл бұрын
Well done, I feel ping pong smarter now,!
@eloimumford5247
@eloimumford5247 Жыл бұрын
I use after each session a sponge dipped in water then let it dry . If very dirty i use hand soap in small quantity , sponge to remove . For fast cleaning i apply 2'' packaging tape all over than peel it : it removes 99% of the dust. Morale : a rubber is never too clean !
@ericramirez1599
@ericramirez1599 Жыл бұрын
Y se le quita el efecto?
@eloimumford5247
@eloimumford5247 2 ай бұрын
@@ericramirez1599 , uso my systema para 5 anos , no cambia el efecto en todas my rgomas de differentes marquas de la cara a la mas barata. Usa sabon de mano , suave por la piel = dulce por la goma.
@I..M..Vivek..Bhojak
@I..M..Vivek..Bhojak 9 ай бұрын
From where you bought the butterfly clean care sponge
@dfy
@dfy 9 ай бұрын
Megaspin.net
@arontenke7916
@arontenke7916 6 ай бұрын
Is the clean care sponge one -time use? Because it looks like
@dfy
@dfy 6 ай бұрын
No I use for months
@noormotani9719
@noormotani9719 Жыл бұрын
What cleaner did you use. Where is it available in Canada and costs?😊
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=t-grip-rubber-cleaner
@Rvnlmc
@Rvnlmc Ай бұрын
By The Way Its Better To Do It With Water Because It Does Not Damage The Rubber Unlike The Spray! Just Saying You Can Use Both But Spray Should Be Used Only Before Tournaments. Love Yall And Keep Up The Good Work! Byeee
@daniarsov3817
@daniarsov3817 Жыл бұрын
hi can you tell me what is protective film and from where can i get it and second from where i can get table tennis sponge and is this taking from the performance of the raket
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Megaspin.net
@yaypingpong4275
@yaypingpong4275 2 жыл бұрын
I use revolution cleaners on my rubbers..So far so good
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, Most cleaners I have purchased are pretty good. I just try to stay away from the foamy cleaners or overly soapy ones
@yaypingpong4275
@yaypingpong4275 2 жыл бұрын
@@dfy yup me too …not a fan of foams
@МихаилВалентинович-я9г
@МихаилВалентинович-я9г 2 жыл бұрын
Бедный топшит,если так тереть,можно дырку протереть)
@ChristopherShelley-sg6gg
@ChristopherShelley-sg6gg 2 ай бұрын
The method i use is I just spray normal water once on my rubber and then clean it and after its all grippy and clean.
@dfy
@dfy Ай бұрын
Regular plain old water works great. Every once in a while a little soap helps if you sweat a lot and oils build up on the rubber
@terry_willis
@terry_willis 10 ай бұрын
I have been using #0000 steel wool for years with great results.
@dfy
@dfy 10 ай бұрын
Whatchu talkin bout Willis
@janagan3284
@janagan3284 2 жыл бұрын
What type of sponge I can use ?? Pls reply me sir I bought cleaner but sponge which one???
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
In this video I test different sponges: How to Properly Clean Table Tennis Rubber 🏓 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH7MpH9qjtCppa8
@sashbar
@sashbar Жыл бұрын
A cheap Chinese sponge from eBay or Ali works just as well
@janagan3284
@janagan3284 Жыл бұрын
@@sashbar thanks sir
@colinbiddle4223
@colinbiddle4223 6 ай бұрын
How do you clean the sponge 🧽
@dfy
@dfy 6 ай бұрын
Water
@Pablo-vr8sv
@Pablo-vr8sv Жыл бұрын
Fresh water after every match is the best economic way to clean the rubber.
@LeandroBrito84
@LeandroBrito84 Жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for tacky rubbers like DHS Hurricane 3 Neo?
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Dilute the cleaning solution 1:3 ratio, 1 part solution, 3 parts water. Now you have a less harsh cleaner for tacky rubber and 3x the solution :)
@LeandroBrito84
@LeandroBrito84 Жыл бұрын
@@dfy thanks buddy!
@Youda00008
@Youda00008 Жыл бұрын
Won't cleaning like this after every training degrade the properties of the top sheet over time?
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Yes, eventually. Dilute the cleaning solution on a 1:3 ratio - one part cleaning solution, and three parts water. Now you have three times the amount of cleaning solution
@Youda00008
@Youda00008 Жыл бұрын
@@dfy I bought the smallest bottle of cleaning liquid 10 years ago, used it twice a week on average, and it's still 3/4 full 😅
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
@@Youda00008 hah wow, mine last about a year after diluting
@thywhyguy4713
@thywhyguy4713 6 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be real honest, i have licked my racket and then used my sleeve since its usually polyester in the middle of a match and it does great lol.
@BrendenPham01
@BrendenPham01 2 жыл бұрын
Does the butterfly spin refresh also rejuvenate or revive the rubbers grip and tackiness?
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of this cleaner, it’s a foam cleaner and a feels a bit greasy from the cleaning agent butterfly uses. I’m sure it works just fine, but not my favorite
@BrendenPham01
@BrendenPham01 2 жыл бұрын
@@dfy What would you recommend?
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrendenPham01 How to *Protect* Table Tennis Rubber like a PRO - 🎙[ASMR]🔉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4LMnq2Vnpl2i7s
@kerrin6633
@kerrin6633 10 ай бұрын
Yes it does restore the rubber and that is why it's a bit oily
@pickle_floppy5816
@pickle_floppy5816 2 жыл бұрын
can I use a lens spray for this?
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
🤔
@ki-op6jq
@ki-op6jq 11 ай бұрын
Which racket is this
@dfy
@dfy 10 ай бұрын
Butterfly Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC
@mayankbarhate9a445
@mayankbarhate9a445 2 жыл бұрын
How to clean with normal things that we find at home??
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
Just use a little bit of clean tap water and a clean rag. This will do the trick just fine
@mayankbarhate9a445
@mayankbarhate9a445 2 жыл бұрын
@@dfy thanks 😁😁
@erixo2996
@erixo2996 Жыл бұрын
@@dfy can I use sponge? instead of rag?
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
@@erixo2996 Yep!
@violonz69
@violonz69 Жыл бұрын
​@@dfy Can i use cotton and water?
@tango_gru
@tango_gru Жыл бұрын
Why not use a simple 3M microfibre cloth ???
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Idk, going to try that..
@tnis_table
@tnis_table Жыл бұрын
It won't destroy the spin the bat gives the ball?
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
No, it will only increase it after its clean. I always check the tackiness after and it’s amazing
@tnis_table
@tnis_table Жыл бұрын
@@dfy Okay thank you
@tnis_table
@tnis_table Жыл бұрын
@@dfy Can I also use water and a rag?
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
@@tnis_table Yes, that’s works
@alooooooola
@alooooooola 2 жыл бұрын
so how to clean the sponge
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. With the clean care sponge I rinse with the sponge on its side (vertically) at a slight angle to a faucet. Or you can clean in a bowl of water being careful not to fully saturate the sponge and ring out the water; let it air dry. Don’t have to do this often. Thanks for the comment actually - New video idea 💡
@technicalmistu0000
@technicalmistu0000 Жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me how to clean short pips or long pips rubber
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Here you go, this is a pips brush cleaning tool by butterfly: www.megaspin.net/store/large-image.asp?pid=b-clean-brush
@technicalmistu0000
@technicalmistu0000 Жыл бұрын
@@dfy Thanks a lot 👍👍 Is there any liquid for cleaning pips rubber?
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
@@technicalmistu0000 Yes, this is recommended: www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=b-cure-water
@shadyarahman
@shadyarahman Жыл бұрын
Is this a Lin yin ju szlc blade?
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Dima O.
@MouseAnimationz
@MouseAnimationz Жыл бұрын
The first time you cleaned it there was "a stain or something" where the butterfly logo is. I have random spots like that on my racket and also pimple like spots and just can't clean them lol
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Good eye!
@mayankshukla7775
@mayankshukla7775 2 жыл бұрын
What is the name of first background music you used?
@abdullahkhalel2468
@abdullahkhalel2468 Жыл бұрын
I wanna buy it 😢🥺🥺🥺
@captteemo9133
@captteemo9133 Жыл бұрын
You can use acetone or >90% alcohol too. I used bio ethanol.
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Never tried
@jazzman1954
@jazzman1954 Ай бұрын
Watch the worlds best players. They usually wipe the blade with their hands!!!! At least while actually playing. Seen it time and again. So covering the blade with sweat and grease!
@maulanaiman4448
@maulanaiman4448 Жыл бұрын
to remove the dust perfectly use slime cleaner that is usually used for cleaning keyboards. It's cheaper than the spray + sponge in the video and 1 slime can be used for 1 month.
@chichiisking8858
@chichiisking8858 Жыл бұрын
Guys just use sticky tape to get rid of dust trust me
@darekk7459
@darekk7459 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if there are any glue residues left from the tape which may degrade the performance of the rubber over time
@rudycramer225
@rudycramer225 2 ай бұрын
Well the sponge is shit! Shouldn't leave anything on it. What's the point of it?
@jasper8368
@jasper8368 2 жыл бұрын
How do you clean pimple rubbers?
@jukkageisler2312
@jukkageisler2312 2 жыл бұрын
You can use an old toothbrush
@wasifshabbir5861
@wasifshabbir5861 2 жыл бұрын
WARNING: this video is fully sponsored 🤣🤣
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Lol why.. Because it’s all butterfly products? Haha
@Xeanowos
@Xeanowos 11 ай бұрын
what about tacky rubber
@dfy
@dfy 11 ай бұрын
Same process. Not as aggressive
@erichhq3014
@erichhq3014 Жыл бұрын
I have a question, when i too often clear my rubber, it become unsticky and very unplayable, do you have any tips to avoid that again, so when i bought a new rubber i didnt make the same mistake?
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
That’s unusual, what kind rubber? Maybe the solution you used left residue making your rubber slick. It’s best to dilute the solution or just clean with water to avoid residue
@erichhq3014
@erichhq3014 Жыл бұрын
I use the silkdhrot rubber, thank you for the tipss
@kunalisbackbancher
@kunalisbackbancher 7 ай бұрын
Sir hamara table tanis ki dandi tut gyi h usa kasa joda jaldi reply do
@VishalGupta-ou3mo
@VishalGupta-ou3mo 6 ай бұрын
Carpenter adhesive laga kar jod dega
@rustyfrett
@rustyfrett 7 ай бұрын
NASA created a pen with ink worth millions for astronauts to write in space. The irony is that Russian astronauts only use pencils. To take care of the rubber surface, we only use automotive slime cleaner. Just need to roll slowly until your rubber is sticky again. Try it. 😂😂😂😂
@legendarygamer2043
@legendarygamer2043 2 жыл бұрын
Which is your racket
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
DO ALC kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKKtp5mtYraJmqs
@olazzzyyyyt9431
@olazzzyyyyt9431 Ай бұрын
Love ❤from Nigeria, can I get a table tennis 🏓 racket please 😢
@Однак-к2б
@Однак-к2б 4 ай бұрын
ацетоном протереть вообще как новая станет. и тянуть будет как надо. правда не надолго
@rafbateetv815
@rafbateetv815 2 жыл бұрын
Hadir
@zaheerulbinhissham6098
@zaheerulbinhissham6098 2 жыл бұрын
Just dont clean it!
@timh7469
@timh7469 2 жыл бұрын
Great option! If you want a worn out rubber after 1 month
@mgarzonf
@mgarzonf 2 жыл бұрын
🌎🇪🇨🙂👍
@woshiairy
@woshiairy 2 жыл бұрын
You sound robotic
@dfy
@dfy 2 жыл бұрын
🤖
@chrisw7402
@chrisw7402 Жыл бұрын
I came here to learn how to clean my paddle not buy your flipping products!!!
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
Buy what products? I don’t sell products lol
@chrisw7402
@chrisw7402 Жыл бұрын
​@@dfy well... I was looking for a method, I was really getting into it, I had my paddle, some water, maybe some basic household detergent, but then when I saw you were using a special cleaner which I didn't have I thought, hey, I don't have this product and I got me son saying hurry up dad it's getting dark. Anyway I don't have this cleaner and I'm really like not going to wait a couple of days to get this cleaner and then come back to this video to watch the rest possibly to be told that I have to use a special cleaning pad to apply it with. Since then my Abilify has kicked in so all is good.
@dfy
@dfy Жыл бұрын
@@chrisw7402 Use plain old water and a regular dish sponge (the soft side) will work just fine. You can make your own solution using 1/100 ratio dish soap and water. Good luck my man
@chrisw7402
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@@dfy thank you so much. It worked a treat!!!
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