How to Rebuild the Zelda Timeline

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Ganonfan

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@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
Do you think this is the right formula to accurately Rebuild the Zelda Timeline?
@DemLep
@DemLep 2 ай бұрын
Not bad, though I would add as part of Step 2, Read the Manuals. This is where a lot of the lore is for the early games so very much worth it. Also remember that the lore given of the past in games is the stories that where past down, so games that might be meant to be a certain event, can have differences in them.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
@@DemLep Don't worry, the manuals are part of step 3 for research. So you play the game, absorb the lore from just that, and then what I'm doing right now is since I finished Zelda 1986, I am reading the English manual, and translated japanese versions to get the whole picture.
@DemLep
@DemLep 2 ай бұрын
@@ganonfan Awesome, sounds good. I would read the manuals before or while playing the first few games. It was common way to experience the games, but as long as they are part of your research that is good. Can't wait to see what you come up with. I have been through a similar process in the past, but never had the time to make it through all the games for a replay through.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
@@DemLep I am going to get through all the games no matter what, but it might take longer once school starts again for me. And for becoming a junior in high school, I'm not sure how busy that will keep me, but it definitely won't stop me from playing the games and doing my research.
@DemLep
@DemLep 2 ай бұрын
@@ganonfan Good time in life to do it. It gets harder the older you get.
@heartnahalf
@heartnahalf 28 күн бұрын
Great minds think alike! May the best timeline win
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 28 күн бұрын
@@heartnahalf I’m focusing more on fully accurate than “the best”, but I get what you mean. 🤣
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 28 күн бұрын
Cool I'll look into that.
@seantaylor424
@seantaylor424 Ай бұрын
Good luck making your timeline! Although I haven't played Breath or Tears yet, they are fortunately, the last games to come up in your playthrough (or maybe Echoes of Wisdom, depending on when that releases), so I'll have no problem watching as all of this unfolds no matter how much time I take getting to the Switch games.
@BR1CK_Lawliet
@BR1CK_Lawliet 2 ай бұрын
Hey, I think it's fantastic that you're working on reconstructing the Zelda timeline. However, it's important not to rely solely on in-game evidence for several reasons. Firstly, the lore presented in the games can sometimes lead to misunderstandings about the sequence and nature of events. For instance, the retelling of A Link to the Past's (ALttP) events in A Link Between Worlds (ALBW) can cause confusion due to contradictions. Similarly, the lack of specific dates and the way events are recorded can lead to misinterpretations. A notable example is the Interloper War; the intent was to place this event before the founding of Hyrule, yet many in the community believed it occurred after Ocarina of Time (OoT). Over time, historical events can blur together, making it challenging to pinpoint exact events and their order, especially when some details may be lost entirely due to calamities and wars. Additionally, not all information is fully conveyed within the games themselves. Supplementary materials like Creating a Champion (CaC) often provide crucial details. For example, in Breath of the Wild (BotW), we only hear snippets of Zelda's speech during the ceremony prior to the Great Calamity. However, the full text is available in CaC, offering a more complete understanding. A small side note here regarding supplementary materials: I would suggest using them primarily for clarifying events already present in the games, rather than introducing entirely new information. For example, the timeline placement of the Interloper War isn't explicitly detailed in the games, so it could theoretically occur anytime before TP. Lastly, the names of locations are not always consistent across the series. For example, not every Kakariko Village is the same, as seen in Twilight Princess (TP), which features a different Kakariko than the one in Ocarina of Time, although we can still explore the remains of OoT's Kakariko. But in any case, I'm excited to see your findings and the timeline you create after this extensive research effort! Also I am sorry for my english.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
I forgot to mention this in the video, but I will be using the Goddess Trilogy books as well as Creating a Champion just to clarify events in game. I probably won't use Hyrule Historia as much because of how it relies on Nintendo's timeline to portray the events of the series, but like you said, I should use those resources as well. Just forgot to mention it in the video!
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 2 ай бұрын
A link between worlds has a summary of events that included A link to the past, Oracle and an event after Oracle involving the sealing of Ganon its not a warped retelling of A link to the past.
@BR1CK_Lawliet
@BR1CK_Lawliet 2 ай бұрын
@@darkdagger5237 I'd like to share some thoughts on why I believe there is a distorted retelling of A Link to the Past (ALttP) in A Link Between Worlds (ALBW), and why we might not need another event between Link’s Awakening and A Link Between Worlds. But first, let's address some inconsistencies: In ALBW, the second painting doesn't directly contradict ALttP, but it's worth discussing. It suggests that the royal family and the sages sealed away the Sacred Realm before Ganondorf entered it. This is inconsistent with the established lore, where Hyrule-and thus its monarchy-was established after the Sacred Realm was sealed, not the other way around. Moving to ALttP, painting four in ALBW depicts Link being awakened by Zelda and sealing Ganon away. However, in reality, Link destroyed Ganon, who was later resurrected in the Oracle games, where he was destroyed again-no sealing occurred. In painting five, it's mentioned that the Triforce split after Ganon's defeat, possibly alluding to the events in the Oracle games. However, as far as I recall, the Triforce did not split in Hyrule at the end of those games but in the land of Holodrum / Labrynna, so take this argument with a grain of salt. A clear error in the depiction of Hyrule's historical records can be seen in painting five, where the sages are portrayed as seven Hylian men standing behind Link and Zelda. In ALttP, there were no sages; instead, there were maidens, with Zelda being one of them, not separate from them. One might argue that another event occurred after Link’s Awakening, but this would still blur the lines between A Link to the Past and any unseen event. Essentially, the historical records would remain inaccurate, especially concerning the sages. Now, here's my theory on why we don't need this unseen event for it to make sense: In the Japanese versions of the Zelda games, the Sacred Realm is referred to as "seichi," meaning "holy land." The Dark World or Evil Realm, where the Sages sealed Ganondorf after Ocarina of Time, was once the Sacred Realm. Importantly, the Dark World is called "meifu" in the Japanese version, often depicted as a dark, subterranean world inhabited by spirits or souls. This suggests that when Yuga resurrected Ganon in ALBW, it was not from the Sacred Realm but from the meifu, and history simply misremembered the events of ALttP, blending them with those of Ocarina of Time. I hope I could explain this understandably :)
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 2 ай бұрын
@@BR1CK_Lawliet So for your first point in A link between worlds they stated that the Triforce was sealed away in the Sacred realm prior to the rise of Ganon which is the exact state Ganon found the Triforce in sealed away in the Sacred realm. Where in the lore is it stated that Hyrule kingdom was founded after the Triforce was sealed other than the official timeline? Second point that is the summary I was talking about and with no record of another resurrection Ganon most likely survived the events of Oracle. Points three and four Oracle did not have a Triforce split. Point five you need to take another look at that painting also there were two Zeldas in that era. In A link between worlds Ganon was not sealed in the Sacred realm.
@BR1CK_Lawliet
@BR1CK_Lawliet 2 ай бұрын
@@darkdagger5237 You've raised some excellent points that are worth discussing. Firstly, you're right that the sealing of the Sacred Realm is only alluded to in the official Zelda timeline, rather than explicitly detailed. This appears to contradict the established lore before A Link Between Worlds, aligning more closely with the sealing of the Dark World in A Link to the Past. Notably, there have been inconsistencies between Hyrule Historia and the Zelda Encyclopedia, making this consistency strange when we accept A Link Between Worlds telling of this event the “accurate” one. Regarding Ganon's fate, it seems highly unlikely that he survived the events of the Oracle games. Typically, when Ganon explodes, it signifies his death, necessitating resurrection. This is consistent across the series: in A Link to the Past, he is resurrected in the Oracle games, and in the original The Legend of Zelda, where his explosion leads to the attempt of his resurrection in The Adventure of Link. Therefore, surviving the Oracle games seems improbable. As for the Triforce, while we don't see it split in these games, it's strongly implied. Given the series' "fragmented imagery," the split could have occurred, but it's also possible the Triforce remained whole. There is speculation about two Links and two Zeldas existing before A Link Between Worlds, based on the Encyclopedia's timeline. However, in-game events align more with the Hyrule Historia timeline, suggesting they are the same incarnations. Additionally, Zelda summoning the hero in A Link to the Past, rather than the Triforce doing so as in the Oracle games, supports the idea that they are not separate incarnations if we consider the version of history presented in A Link Between Worlds. Believing otherwise would imply even more misremembering of past events*. Another point of confusion is the depiction of young maidens as old wise men. Given the relatively short time span between A Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds (around 120 years), these characters likely represent the same figures, as sages would have needed to be alive during A Link to the Past to be old. Lastly, you were correct that Ganon was not sealed in the Sacred Realm; that was an error on my part. He was sealed in darkness, possibly the "meifu," until he was resurrected by Yuga. So, which scenario seems more likely: a second set of sages during A Link to the Past and a new, unseen event after the Oracle games, mirroring A Link to the Past with new incarnations of Link and Zelda, or a simple misremembering of details, such as confusing the maidens with the original sages, or Ganon's death being recalled as a seal due to his previous sealing? *As a quick side note: If the Link and Zelda from the Oracle games are different from those in A Link to the Past, this suggests a greater degree of historical misremembering. The events of two separate individuals would have blended into one narrative, potentially misrepresenting the distinct events they each experienced, which supports the idea that they are one and the same. Therefore, I believe A Link Between Worlds contains a warped retelling of the events occurring in A Link to the Past and its sequels.
@yellowfifers
@yellowfifers Ай бұрын
@ganonfan It's saying the invite is invalid or has expired
@ganonfan
@ganonfan Ай бұрын
*sigh* yeah, I'm sorry about that. I click the checkbox to have the link never expire when sending the invite, but for some reason, it still expires after a week. The link should work now, and I'm crossing my fingers that it will never expire.
@yellowfifers
@yellowfifers Ай бұрын
@@ganonfan nice
@slateoffate9812
@slateoffate9812 Ай бұрын
Before I start watching this, earlier this year I made up my own timeline, without any splits at all, using the Cycle of Reincarnation and unseen adventures to handwave any issues. I divided it into 3 Eons: 1: Skyfall Eon 1: Skyward Sword 2: Minish Cap 3: Four Swords 4: Zelda 1/2 5: Link to the Past 6-8: Oracle Games and Awakening? Aside from Ages happening before Seasons, I'm currently undecided, for reasons relating to Echoes of Wisdom. 9: Link Between Worlds 10: Four Swords Adventures 11: Triforce Heroes 2: Water Rise Eon: 1: Ocarina of Time 2: Majora's Mask 3: Twilight Princess 4: Wind Waker(thank you reincarnation) 5: Phantom Hourglass 3: Refounding Eon: 1: Spirit Tracks 2: Hyrule Warriors 3: Cia's Tale(I headcanon the War of Ages is a time loop) 4: Linkle's Tale 5: Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition Adventure Mode(even more loops) 6: Hyrule Warriors: Great Sea Expansion(the final loop) 7: Tears of the Dragon(Zonai Hyrule) 8: 10,000 Years Ago(Hyperbole, probably) 9: Age of Calamity(history loves repeating itself) 10: Breath of the Wild(including Champion's Ballad, though not necessarily the other dlc stuff) 11: Tears of the Kingdom
@Caleb_Bravo99
@Caleb_Bravo99 Ай бұрын
I’m currently working on building my own version of the timeline. In my case, I’m only looking at the games themselves and their manuals. No interviews and no Hyrule lore books. This is because that information has changed over time, but not the games. That said, I also make note of when something is impossible to be next to each other. For example, in the manual for A Link to the Past, it says that the Triforce remain in the Sacred Realm from the moment the Goddesses left until Ganondorf stole it. Meaning no game that uses the Triforce can come before.
@santiagojpr4779
@santiagojpr4779 28 күн бұрын
@@Caleb_Bravo99 I desagree,half part of the time is built by developers quotes like the quotes from aonuma.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 2 ай бұрын
This looks like a solid formula.
@RatchetAndClank14
@RatchetAndClank14 29 күн бұрын
My timeline (Second Version): Creation > Zonai Descend Upon Hyrule > Rauru and Sonia Found the Kingdom of Hyrule > Ganondorf Kill Sonia and Took Her Secret Stone and Became Demise > Demise kill Rauru and the Sages > Descend of Goddess Hylia > The War Between Hylia and Demise > Hylia Sealed Demise > Skyward Sword > Timeline Split > Kingdom of Hyrule is Established > Sacred Realm is Sealed > Hyrulean Civil War > Ocarina of Time > Timeline Split (Adult Timeline) - Ganondorf is Resurrected > Hyrule is Sealed and Flooded > Wind Waker > Phantom Hourglass > Spirit Tracks (Child Timeline) - Majora's Mask > Ganondorf is Executed > Twilight Princess (Demise is Defeated in the Past Timeline) - Reincarnation of Hylia Returns to Surface > Kingdom of Hyrule is Established > Minish Descend > Minish Cap > Four Sword > Four Sword Adventure > Triforce Is Discover > Master Sword is Forged > Imprisoning War > A Link to the Past > Link's Awakening > Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons > A Link Between Worlds > Tri Force Heroes > Golden Era > The Tragedy of Princess Zelda 1 > The Legend of Zelda > The Adventure of Link (The Arrival of Zelda From the Future Timeline) - The Arrival of Zelda From the Future > Ganondorf Kill Sonia and Took Her Secret Stone and Became Demise > Imprisoning War > The Arrival of Master Sword From the Future > Zelda Become a Eternal Dragon > Master Sword is Forged > Unknown Number of Calamitys > Calamity of 10,000 Years Ago > Breath of the Wild > Tears of the Kingdom
@RatchetAndClank14
@RatchetAndClank14 Ай бұрын
My timeline: Creation > Era of the Goddess Hylia > Skyward Sword > Timeline Split > Kingdom of Hyrule Is Established > Sacred Realm Is Sealed > Hyrulean Civil War > Ocarina of Time > Timeline Split (Adult Timeline) - Ganondorf Is Resurrected > Hyrule Is Sealed and Flooded > Wind Waker > Phantom Hourglass > Spirit Tracks (Child Timeline) - Majora's Mask > Ganondorf Is Executed > Twilight Princess (Demise Is Defeated in the Past Timeline) - Reincarnation of Hylia Returns to Surface > Kingdom of Hyrule is Established > Triforce Is Discover > Sacred Realm Is Sealed > Minish Descend > Minish Cap > Four Sword > Four Sword Adventure > Master Sword Is Forged > Imprisoning War > A Link to the Past > Link's Awakening > Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons > A Link Between Worlds > Tri Force Heroes > Echoes of Wisdom > Golden Era > The Tragedy Of Princess Zelda 1 > Master Sword Is Lost > The Legend of Zelda > The Adventure of Link > Hyrule Kingdom Is Destroy > Zonai Descend Upon Hyrule > Rauru and Sonia Found the Kingdom of Hyrule > The Arrival of Zelda From the Future > Second Imprisoning War > The Arrival of Master Sword From the Future > Zelda Become a Eternal Dragon > Master Sword Is Found > Unknown Number of Calamitys > Calamity of 10,000 Years Ago > Breath of the Wild > Tears of the Kingdom
@RenegadeGamer89
@RenegadeGamer89 2 ай бұрын
The main issue with how the current timeline is structured is that it's focused on splitting branches, whereas every instance of time travel in the franchise works in a linear scene. The TL:DR of it is if one thing happens in the past is always has to happen. An easy example of this would be in Skyward Sword when Link gives the Thunder Dragon the fruit, the dragon is now always alive. I have my own theory of how the timeline should be but I'm curious to see your interpretation.
@MODDEDbyBACTERlA
@MODDEDbyBACTERlA 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Zelda has broken its own rules of time on numerous occasions. They always place gameplay above storytelling, which isn't a perfect strategy.
@Ahouro
@Ahouro 2 ай бұрын
​@@MODDEDbyBACTERlA Different kinds of time travel don't have the same kinds of rules.
@MODDEDbyBACTERlA
@MODDEDbyBACTERlA 2 ай бұрын
@Ahouro You can have a Set Timeline or a Changeable Timeline, but never both. Its Bill and Ted vs Back to the Future.
@javiervasquez625
@javiervasquez625 2 ай бұрын
​@@MODDEDbyBACTERlA You can if you're developing an inherently inconsistent videogame franchise focused on gameplay and entertainment over narrative and story continuity. It's Berserk vs Dragon Ball.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 2 ай бұрын
@@javiervasquez625 Its consistent your just not asking the right questions. You look at time travel and ask which basic category it fits into instead of asking what is time travel within the context of the series.
@solarcataclysm
@solarcataclysm 2 ай бұрын
This is a logical, well thought out construction. Thank you for a new perspective!
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, no problem! I'm not afraid to change the way I view the Zelda timeline as long as there is logic behind it.
@TheRabbitPoet
@TheRabbitPoet 23 күн бұрын
I really don't get all the hatred for the official timeline in the community. it's really not that complicated you've got the first game, aol is a sequel, lttp is a prequel, oot is a prequel's prequel, Majora's mask is a sequel to oot things get complicated with the handhelds, but it seems to be implied that the oracles and Link's awakening are all sequels to lttp (plus, there were no other timelines at the time, so where else could have nintendo intended these games to take place?) going back to the 3d games, tp is obviously a sequel to Majora, but the fact that it contradicts lttp confirms that the last time travel of the oot caused a timeline split then wind waker rolls around and it's clearly meant to follow the adult timeline of oot, but that can't be because it also contradicts lttp. how could this be? easy, they are two different continuities. NOT DIFFERENT TIMELINES, just diferent stories that share a common prequel, other series do it all the time and no one looses their heads about it after that everything is pretty self explanatory, except for four swords adventure being a sequel to twilight princess, that really just came out of nowhere. and I guess saying the hero of time died in the alternative continuity was kinda unnecessary too
@Patoman-cz2ju
@Patoman-cz2ju 2 ай бұрын
Here , before it explodes.
@chrisvainio
@chrisvainio 2 ай бұрын
Here for it bud Probably won’t check your discord, don’t have time to be engaging in some of the communities, but it would be cool if you let us know if anything comes out of the Discord that helps you, maybe part of your research category 👍
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
It's fine if people don't have time to engage in my other communities, I just like to let people know it exists for anyone who is interested.
@Frisko555
@Frisko555 2 ай бұрын
How are you planning on handling games with multiple versions such as Link's Awakening? Also, will you be including any lesser known games or just the one's that are on Nintendo's timeline?
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
These are all really good questions!! - For different versions of games, I'm thinking about playing all versions of them and then at the end, comparing them to each other to see if there are details that contradict one another, or if one version adds more lore than the other. (Hope this makes sense) - I'm for sure going to cover all 21 "mainline games" (the 21st being Echoes of Wisdom), and for whats classified as "spin-offs", I might do the same thing, or do a "is it Canon?" type video to decide if it should go on the timeline. Hope this helps answer your questions!
@kennyholmes5196
@kennyholmes5196 2 ай бұрын
@@ganonfan I say go for the "is it canon" option, and then if you decide it is canon, slot your placement of it in at the end of the video.
@santiagojpr4779
@santiagojpr4779 29 күн бұрын
​@@ganonfanFor Original Hyrule Warriors i think it fits after Zelda 2 in its own universe,
@santiagojpr4779
@santiagojpr4779 29 күн бұрын
Just fit the most recent versión of that game like mm3d or LA switch,Wind waker HD ,alttp gba and al of this,about Hyrule Warriors i think it fits after Zelda 2 in its own universe
@RatchetAndClank14
@RatchetAndClank14 Ай бұрын
Timeline based only on games,manuals and interviews: Skyward Sword > Minish Cap > Four Sword > Ocarina of Time (Child Timeline) - Majora's Mask > Twilight Princess > Four Sword Adventure (Adult Timeline) - Wind Waker > Phantom Hourglass > Spirit Tracks (Fallen Timeline) - A Link to the Past > Link's Awakening > Oracles of Ages/Oracles of Seasons > A Link Between Worlds> The Legend of Zelda > The Link's Adventure (The distant future) - Breath of the Wild > Tears of the Kingdom
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 Ай бұрын
The games and manuals go against that. In A link to the past and its manual Ganon entered the Sacred realm by accident found the Triforce undefended and claimed the full Triforce without it splitting resulting in the Sealing war and in Ocarina of time Ganon entered the Sacred realm through careful planning made his way through the defenses around the Triforce and when he tried to claim it it split leaving him with only the Triforce of power the game then ends with only TWO endings the celebration of Ganon's defeat in Lon Lon ranch and Link with the Triforce of courage meeting Zelda for the first time again and no alternate ending exists where Link falls to Ganon. In Four swords adventures at the start they specifically state that Hyrule was at peace since the defeat of Vatii which is the events of Four swords how this impacts the timeline is self explanatory.
@RatchetAndClank14
@RatchetAndClank14 Ай бұрын
@@darkdagger5237 yes,I know that
@BananaR777
@BananaR777 Ай бұрын
​@@darkdagger5237reguarding the link to the past, I've seen a theory that the vvish for ganons deeds to be undone that it resulted the creation of the adult timeline and child timeline. I cam see that being a thing or that vvish just simply undown ganons evil deeds
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 Ай бұрын
@@RatchetAndClank14 Then why throw around a timeline that you know is defective?
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 Ай бұрын
@@BananaR777 That theory has nothing to back it up.
@jaylenwalker3884
@jaylenwalker3884 2 ай бұрын
Yay
@Zladnyl
@Zladnyl Ай бұрын
I accept Nintendo's current timeline placement up until Hyrule Warriors and all things Breath of the Wild. People try to immediately state that HW isn't canon but dismiss BOTW's matching flaws. They BOTH shouldn't be canon but as long as people want to use bandwagons and recency bias to support BOTW when its a subpar game and story from the viewpoint of a true fan of this series, I say BOTW can't be canon without HW, HW is the necessary merging of the previously split timelines prior to BOTW.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 Ай бұрын
You should watch The insane history of the Zelda timeline video Turns out the official timeline did not originate from Hyrule historia.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan Ай бұрын
yeah, I feel like angry "fans" always blame Hyrule Historia for the creation of the timeline, but what is presented is how the developers saw the timeline as they developed each game one by one. There was always a timeline being created, so it's unfair to Hyrule Historia to say that the timeline was just speedily created to please the fans.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 Ай бұрын
@@ganonfan Contrary to popular belief the developers are not responsible for the creation of the official timeline. Every iteration of the official timeline has some obscure mistake that shows that it was constructed by someone who only had a shallow overview of the story to work with. As for the creation of the games the higher ups in Nintendo have told the developers to make the games fit into specific parts of the official timeline and they actively defied orders (Oracle is a good example of this) they instead made the games fit with each other. This makes the developers responsible for the creation of the true timeline while the higher ups are responsible for the creation of the official timeline.
@santiagojpr4779
@santiagojpr4779 29 күн бұрын
Hyrule Warriors is canon since aonuma said that is canon but is in an alternate universe
@lovkola
@lovkola 2 ай бұрын
Yes, this will be a better way to build the timeline. In my eyes skyward sword has to be first, but pls find arguments against it if you can. And if there are zelda games you don't own you can watch non comentary 100% playthroughs of the games, Ill gladly try to help rebuild the timeline. Take care everyone! 💛💛
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
I'll let everyone know when I get to Zelda games I don't own, but that won't be for a while if I'm playing them in order of release.
@stuffz1757
@stuffz1757 2 ай бұрын
The second you start slapping timeline splits on games like Skyward Sword or Oracles of Ages you've gone too far and have lost the plot.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
Don't worry! I'm going to try and Rebuild the timeline without using timeline splits. The only reason I did that previously is because I was focusing too much on Nintendo's timeline and trying to put games where I thought made sense, but now that I am starting from scratch, I can pretty much avoid all those splits.
@stuffz1757
@stuffz1757 2 ай бұрын
@@ganonfan I mean it's your timeline to make how you want. I'm just tired of seeing splits added to any instance of time travel.
@stuffz1757
@stuffz1757 2 ай бұрын
@@ganonfan oh one thing I will say, for certainty Four Swords needs to be connected directly to Four Sword Adventures. I think the official timeline split the two because of a old dev quote saying FS was one of the earliest games, but Four Swords Adventures treats itself as a direct sequel to FS. I feel like this is a genuine example of the official timeline disagreeing with the games themselves. Ultimately tho it's up to you.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
@@stuffz1757 I think they will go together, but once I get to those games, more research will be done to confirm this.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 2 ай бұрын
@@stuffz1757 As someone that has actually researched Zelda time travel I agree.
@dracquiteur.4730
@dracquiteur.4730 2 ай бұрын
Sounds intriguing. Subscribed to see the results. I personally would not use geographical elements as decisive arguments, but only as (weak) supportive arguments. My personal headcannon used to be Zelda Lore's video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXikonynjt-kfbM. In this video, he gives an interesting argument on why the Switch Zeldas are not merging timelines. However, in writing this comment, I noticed that he changed his timeline to include a merger. So... curious what that is about. Anyway, in the video above, I never really liked how Minish Cap was used to create a split. I personally found Skyward Sword to be a better branching off point. Then I saw this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enbNkpmCfpd_rbs. This guy uses a Skyward Sword split and makes an interesting argument on how the Four Sword is the unevolved Godess Sword from Skyward Sword. On the other hand, I wasn't convinced by his placement of the Switch entries. So, my personal headcannon as of now is a mix of those two. Or basically, split of the dawnfall timeline from Skyward Sword ánd place the Switch duology only after Twilight Princess. Though, who knows how long I'll keep this headcannon with Echoes of Wisdom most likely shaking things up again.
@ganonfan
@ganonfan 2 ай бұрын
I have actually seen both of those videos, and I think I can agree with you on both of them. As for me using the geography of the games to rebuild the timeline, there are some worlds that we already know are similar: - Zelda 1986 Map > Smaller piece of Adventure of Link's Map. - Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess are all based on a similar style and design for their worlds. Wind Waker's is just mostly flooded. - Echoes of Wisdom seems to be the same Hyrule from A Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds. Those are all the legit connections I can think of at the time, but I will go into a deeper look as I do research on all of the games.
@darkdagger5237
@darkdagger5237 2 ай бұрын
@@ganonfan This is a good starting list that covers almost every map of Hyrule with at least one connection to another map. I'm looking forward to seeing how this list evolves through your journey to solving the Zelda timeline.
@M_Dutch97
@M_Dutch97 2 ай бұрын
My timeline: 1. Creation + Era of Hylia 2. Skyward Sword 3A. BotW + TotK (Past split from SS) 3B. TMC (Present split from SS) 4A. FSA + ALttP + OoX + LA + ALBW + TFH + TLoZ + TAoL (Vaati sealed split from TMC) 4B. OoT (Vaati defeated split from TMC) 5C. MM + TP (Child split from OoT) 5D. TWW + PH + ST (Adult split from OoT)
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