How To Recast Warhammer

[@Miscast]

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[@benjaminnoble9565]

Awesome, I was able to get a toad! I'm so pumped! Thank you!

[@Miscast]

@@benjaminnoble9565 Hell yeah!!!

[@Miscast]

@@benjaminnoble9565 Thankyou

[@boxcat1600]

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[@philurbaniak1811]

Lots of teenagers about to google silicone.. for modeling 😅

[@cubedragon5619]

It is an understatement to say that you have shaped and inspired my relationship to wargaming

[@steffenelling]

What he said 👆👆

[@williamaitken7533]

I do want to add that recasting doesn't HAVE to be this complicated (with a pressure pot and vacuum chamber). Recasting is SUPER useful if you need things like extra sets of weapons/upgrades that only come in limited quantities per box. Or to get an extra copy of a broken part. For the silicone mold, you can do a two-part mold by pressing half the mini into clay, pouring the silicone to get one half, then removing the clay, and pouring the second half of the mold. You just spread talcum powder or spray a release agent between the two layers to keep them from fusing. These two part molds make pulling out the model easier and remove the step where you sliced using a hobby knife. I think if you're doing a sprue of weapons or something that's the way to go. The pressure/vac equipment is great for making perfect stuff and well-worth it if you're planning on selling your minis. But for a hobbyist making copies of their rocket launchers or something, just using the stuff as-is should get you 90% of the way there. Many parts will be perfect, and the parts that aren't can be fixed with some greenstuff or you can just recast. I appreciate this video! Recasting is a ton of fun. My second 40k army was a Wraithguard list back when they literally only had 3 poses and came in mono-piece pewter kits. They were $15 a piece and I needed like 50 of them. Recasting worked perfectly and saved me a ton of money!

[@stephenx2857]

would second this. can do really rudimentary casting with hot glue molds. there's a re-melt-able poly carb substrate. i think the western name(green stuff world sells it) is blue stuff, Oyumaru is the japanese clear variant. i've even seen videos of people experimenting with silicone and corn starch to make a mold. don't even need resin. left over green stuff or 2-part epoxy mold. can jam into a mold... get a press replica of ...i dunno. a chaos god symbol, a shoulder pad. I've cast door panels to vehicles. and when you are using resin, have a little extra. great way to use that up. to have some of these smaller bits molds to give a go on ...and if it doesn't come out perfect. it's nbd, as it was mainly excess resin/green stuff.

[@moggtheboss3087]

You don’t even need a vacuum chamber, just find a way to make your phone vibrate a ton and put it alongside the mould when pouring, that’ll stop bubbles from forming or staying

[@saintdane05]

Curtis looks like a mad scientist in a b-movie while he's working. Great stuff.

[@EricsHobbyWorkshop]

Trent…we need to cook

[@graefx]

To me some of these are GW abandoned children. And in others, totally within their recast rules "making bits for personal kitbashes" and in the other, it's transformative into something outside of GW. I've cycled back into a dadaism and surrealist phase personally and one of their big questions was the nature of art and the absurd. Collages, found art, and a delightful dash of indignant kitsch. To me your army project really encapsulates that energy. It feels distinctly old hammer while being uniquely your own. It's got sovl.

[@outpost206]

Yeah, I recently stumbled upon a Space Marine from the 1990 Advanced Space Crusade game as well as a Chaos Warrior from Warhammer Fantasy circa 1991 (found them in the attic above my family's place when I was visiting) and I've been making a bunch of recasts of those just because.

[@nickharvey7233]

It’s got sovl, but it’s not a sovldier…

[@pizzalord3n]

F in chat before video gets removed by James workshop lawyers

[@ceo_leo]

Games*

[@pizzalord3n]

@@ceo_leo If you know, you know.

[@sempre8644]

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[@stingray4567]

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[@leowfig]

*Jorkshop

[@thehobbygit281]

Curtis' resin sprue details are just absolute genius. Frequently useful as small bits of terrain, barricades or base scatter. He's been doing it for a while and it's a proactive adjustment that not enough people in this industry have even considered. It's great that you pointed attention to it.

[@elicollins3221]

"Make what you want to make. 'Cause you can" hits hard. I feel recently I've been caught up in needing to be "legitimate" in my Warhammer because I want to play with people at my local store and they care about that, but because of that I stopped looking at things in the same fun way you inspired me to when I first started this hobby. So thank you :)

[@Dunfer]

I found your channel back when you were developing Arcane Ugly and forgot about it for a while. Years later, I got back into 40k and came across your early terrain videos. It was such a joy to see that this channel was still going and I've been binging it over the last few weeks. I was pretty melancholic when I finished your latest video last night, but then this one came out today. I'm really looking forward to what you get into next, regardless of your interests, my interests, or anything else. You're really an inspiration. Thanks

[@JuggleDrum]

Oh wow. I didn't realise Arcane Ugly was actually available for sale. I just thought he got bored of it.

[@michaeljames1334]

makign the sprue into something useable is actually so wildly smart. i cant believe i have never seen this done before. 10/10 idea.

[@whitelegend182]

Love how the lab looks like something out of breaking bad. Truly gives it that grey market vibe.

[@euansmith3699]

Miscast + Ramshackle Games is pretty much a match made in heaven. Curtis's models have such a similar aesthetic to Trent's; and Curtis produces lots of kitbashing bits.

[@saltfreegamer]

Your voice in the tabletop community is so refreshing and inspiring. Thank you for not being bound by the status quo, and showing what is possible in a world with different rules. 🔓

[@GoobertownHobbies]

you're going to be walking around adepticon with a backpack, aren't you? ;-)

[@pierre-louispicot4598]

Your videos are a joy to watch, I felt most of my life like I wanted to build different things, and yet couldn't avoid building and painting miniatures the way it was presented on the box art or on the internet, out of fear of failing the buiild, disliking my own creation etc. And this channel breaks a lot of shackles and padlocks in my brain . I only realised only recently that whatever I build, I can't really "fail", everything is a step, and I understood that thanks to your channel. Thank you so much !

[@NatesMiniatures]

Absolutely beautiful, I feel the same way about Warhammer

[@thomaskaracwilson]

Your video catalog is so rewatchable. I don’t know how many times I’ve done marathons of your videos, because they are so useful and entertaining.

[@AngryTheGnome]

This is very inspiring! You seem to have the same passion towards Nurgle, that I have towards Orks, want to make something that has never been seen before, but at the same time that feels like it is from the same universe. Real cool stuff!

[@bertc3816]

I follow a number of crafty content creators, most of them to enjoy their process from the backseat. You are the only creator that actually inspires me and gets me to create and try. This video is your most inspiring one (yet). On to making my own bootlegs and share them with my friends

[@emceha]

3d printer it is lol. That's a lot of work. I played with casting in blue stuff and it's real fun, especially if you find good parts for it. Space marine backpacks, tyranid limbs, Necron Canoptec Scarabs, useful stuff. Casting is a hobby in itself.

[@Miscast]

Hahah yes, it's a lot of work! I've enjoyed doing a combination of 3d printing and casting for different reasons. My brain enjoys the moulding and casting more, but when the printers work as intended just being able to come back to a plate of minis is awesome.

[@c-bass9367]

You make me think of my dad who was an artist. I have so much of his equipment and should start using it.

[@annoyedzebra6362]

This rules. I always love this sort of attitude towards companies being controlling of "IPs" as if companies make things and not people

[@JackDespero]

That dude has a lab to create something more expensive than meth: Warhammer 40k minis.

[@montgomeryharr30]

As soon as I saw that front door i knew you were in Nottingham. I walk past this mini shop all the time and it reeks of resin haha

[@Miscast]

thats the smell of magic being made

[@dancoles2235]

Brother; you are a true artist and I respect your philosophic approach to establish ethics (e.g. would you still do it if it was illegal). The fact that you share your artistic creations with your brothers is a good example of brotherly love.

[@alexanderbudinger8169]

I love this video. Not for the tutorial (that is still very cool!) but for how important the message at the end is. It's a whole vibe. Also, wow that walking house is incredible! I'm going to subscribe and I hope to see it more in the future.

[@JamesHolloway]

Curtis is a fantastic guy, and I was glad to see the two of you were collaborating. Your final comments are very much how I feel about this and other hobby games -- they're a folk artform now, not just a product controlled by a single company.

[@CronosVids]

You alway surprise me with turns your videos make. I expected a simple casting video and I ended up thinking about what the culture surounding Warhammer means to a lot of people. Well done sir, well done.

[@gualtrapasexy]

Indeed, sir.

[@skelicles]

I just really apprec8 you and your thought process. Warhammer belongs to the kid painting their first miniature hit me

[@baldurironshield5083]

Honestly the "nurgle" sculpt you made reminds me more of " where the wild things are " then nurgle. Not a bad thing at all.

[@grugory]

you are the #1 most influential hobby hero for me, keep doing what you’re doing!

[@Launets]

As always a huge inspiration for everyone in this community. I can only say thank you.

[@spanishoctagon]

I don't know how but you manage to perfectly sum up everything I love about the hobby and how it fits into culture more generally. Not just through the script but the way the whole video is made with the same ethos.

[@JDXC666]

Everything you do is a labor of love, and it really shows in the quality and presentation.

[@gdeddo_]

Just found this channel and I love everything about it. I did a lot of modeling as a kid-- built a 40k gaming table in my basement, but always loved the modeling, painting and building more than the gaming. I am just now getting back into it and this is the kind of freedom and excitement I want to have. No inhibitions-- just vibing. Also, as to the question of legality-- yeah it's art! In the art world just about any modification to existing work makes it your own. Appropriation is a high art form and all of what artists make is borrowing from and building on what came before. Picasso (supposedly) said "Good artist copy, great artists steal" and I am inclined to agree. Anyway, awesome work! Been binging it all.

[@CorbinatorLoL]

Absolutely brilliant! From the editing down to the core message, and everything in between, this was just brilliant. 💯

[@ArtOfDuane]

This is inspiring, I have been wanting to learn to cast my own sculpts for a while, once I find some more space than I've got to do it in. Good stuff!

[@ShadowdragonYamiryu]

This was so cool! I definitely agree with your closing idea how the Warhammer is beyond GW itself (despite them wishing it wasn't). Very similar to my hobby journey, especially as I'm dabbling and learning how to cast and make molds myself! I subbed, looking forward to seeing more of your work.

[@nicksouthcote8826]

I’ve done this and it was both fun and totally worth it. Helped so much with building base troops in an imperial 40k army.

[@nichlasbundgaard5583]

It's good to hear from you again, and i hope you had an absolutely amazing trip! I can't imagine what's coming next with all the new knowledge you must have gotten, but i'll look forward to it and embrace it with open arms.

[@cookicha]

Through the complexity and depth of your videos' topics, tone and purposes, they help me feel better about who I am, who I was, and what the world and others mean to me. I don't miniature. I don't wargame. But I'm a huge fan. You're a god, Trent. Keep the conversation going, I want to know more, there's something I need to hear down the line

[@Zephyrbaby1]

Something that I learnt when I cast and designed designer toys. If you can’t afford a pressure pot, we use to tap/drum the side or on the table of moulds when they were setting. This would make air bubbles rise up. This method did not work as great as a pressure pot by all means but it did work quite well. Also I learnt two part mould making is much more easier in the long run then single pour moulds. Saves on trying to cut your sculpts out and time.

[@emoemi907]

This is actually a great commentary on the problems with copyright and art and commercialization of creativity, well made!

[@sebbychou]

God your relationship with your hobby/passion really improved over the year(s). Thank you for sharing your journey and helping us improve ours.

[@yourdad7853]

This is the hobbyist's equivalent to Breaking Bad.

[@cameronmaas2644]

I’ve never wanted a bootleg miniature more than right now. The design on these is so good!!!

[@lofiworkshop]

This is awesome. I've been wanting to get into molding and casting, so this is perfect. I immediately identified the Hero Quest miniature, would love to make some molds using mine.

[@8BitJesus]

Dude, you’re a fucking inspiration! I love how creative you are, like outside the box kinda stuff. I’m super envious because I’ve no idea how I’d even start

[@jake360flip]

Growing up and still living in Nottingham. It's crazy to me when I see/hear some of my favourite creators talking about it. Games Workshop has always been special to me too since growing up around it and always buying starter sets at Christmas. It is a shame they are going the way they are going but they will always be something that i hold in very high regards.

[@ClaudiosCollection]

I would absolutely buy a copy of that HeroQuest 4-armed beauty but I understand the grey fine-line. Incredible work, dude! That sculpture you work on at the end blows me away!

[@EggFuhrer]

i didn't expect a video on bootlegging minis to be emotional.. but it was. and it was all the better for it. thank you for this excellent and very informative video (:

[@albinofreak620]

I always feel inspired to try new things after your videos. I think I’m going to try scratch building a mini or sculpting something simple and then try to cast it before the end of this year.

[@iain.sm.c]

Missed ya, Trent. Excellent video.

[@ScratchBashing]

4:49 Ok, I'm getting flashbacks..

[@papashoob]

greatest diss track of all time

[@LukeDyer]

Each of your videos seems to top the last! Your ingenuity and creativity should be bottled and doled out to the masses as a way to solve the problems of the world! Thank you

[@jamesremington8056]

What a great opportunity. Love the hero quest aesthetic on that cast. Love the channel.

[@outpost206]

I've been big into molding and casting (and recasting, of course) since I got into it during the pandemic and you know, it never occurred to me to do "bootleg" miniatures in the style of a "bootleg" resin action figure. Cool stuff.

[@alienlobsteroo4882]

You're inspiring and you make the exact type of weird art my Mom used to make and love. Which is why I always spam her with your newest releases xD

[@benweinberg3819]

The ethos at the end about the "culture" of Warhammer was even more inspiring and heartfelt than the usual Miscast philosophical waxing :)

[@adrianpabst3992]

Miscast is like the underground comics, DIY zine culture for the miniature world and its really awesome to watch

[@vatiti9573]

Absolutely fan of all that work you put in for this video, and for yourself ! Your creations at the end of the video felt like "nurgly", but in your way, like a mix between Nurgle beasts and those classic fairies and gnomes illustrations, and I think it is a very interesting take on it. And, huh, frankly, the idea of beasts with cannons on them sounds like some silly idea of a Nurgle cult whose members are from the Dark Mechanicum XD !

[@jacksonwalshe2520]

Hey mate! Thanks for being my travel buddy from Mel-Lax!

[@Miscast]

Hope to catch ya next trip mate!

[@benjaminhayward5921]

"Make your sprues cool and useful." Yes! The first time I got a mini (I think from Anvil) and the sprue was molded to look like planks of wood, my mind was BLOWN. This should be standard operating procedure!!

[@2013Arcturus]

Lets say I've had some models some like 15 years and finally own a home in which I can display them, and I wanna replace some lost pieces, like for example Vespid heads. I have an intact Vespid I can cast with rubber, great! But what can I make the heads out of? Does squishing "green stuff" into the head part of the mold work? Are there better "amateur" options for those of us that can't invest in plastic casting pressure machines or 3D printing? I don't need to make models at scale, just replace bits.

[@trisbane4086]

Your video is the perfect timing - I was just looking into recasting my Warhammer Fantasy stuff! 😁

[@breakinginferno6774]

It feels really good to see one of my favorite artists echo the ideas found in my own relationship with the hobby, intellectual property, and art in general. GW does not own Warhammer, WotC does not own DnD. Art is a living, breathing thing that naturally grows beyond something that can called property. Good art subsumes itself into the culture that appreciates it until there is no longer a discernable border between the two.

[@pixeltrash5098]

love your "big idea" videos. a real homie.

[@sadnessinside123]

11:27 I will never cross a frog or a toad again after seeing your work here.

[@NJBoyd]

Glad to see the Skaven heads going to a good cause! Hope you had a great tour up north, and hope to catch up with you again some day! Also, it's really, really good to see you well rested and not powering through on an hour's sleep, sausage rolls and resin fumes! 🤣

[@Toporshik]

I've been looking forward to hearing from you again!

[@Alex-hp2rs]

I always leave your videos feeling inspired to make things, so thanks

[@AchanCham_]

This was very cool to watch. Thank you for making this video.

[@vexedclown]

if you could mix the silicone inside the vaccum camber would you get even less air bubbles?

[@squeak83uk2]

pour and set some silicone and cut it into chunks, if you find yourself short of a pour you can introduce cured pieces to bulk it out a bit more. also goes for failed moulds or old ones.

[@Goblincow]

Absolutely obsessed with Curtis' cyberpunk meth kitchen

[@BajkonurBobby]

Great video. Very well spoken. Genuinely. Very nice to listen to you thoughts. Also, have you made a video about the progress/life of your walking house? Id love to see that. Loved it when you made the first one. Love it now. Not sure Ive caught all the steps in between. Would love to know them. 👍 Keep it up.

[@zackaldred2719]

this is so cool, i really want to start casting now

[@JuniperArt98]

Mad respect for this, Get Bent GW

[@yo5tan]

It's been a minute since I saw one of your videos, but I have to say I am totally here for the anarchic miniature renaissance 💜

[@Madjoe20]

How much rubber do you use for a mold , just wondering what a pint would get you in molds. This is for purchasing.

[@Flying_Pigs]

Good to see you rested and energized. Must be the sun as opposed to the -5 morning of pressure pot testing 😂 Amazing video! ❤

[@Ulfie_]

Bro if police walked into that room they'd think you're cooking crystal 😂

[@mariokotlett869]

Man this Orc Sorcerer Miscast/bootleg miniature is Fantastic. I Wish i Could get one of those for my Retro Orc army as a Weirdboy. Its hard to get miniatures in that specific look to use in the "modern" game. But sadly it could be hard to run into you at a Convention because i am from Germany^^. Nevertheless I Love your Work and you nice approach to the hobby... actually you inspired me to do the retro Army about 2 years Ago. now loads of 2nd edition Orc boys and rouge trader cyboars later i found this video and loved the Orc sorcerer.

[@Idk-cv4ft]

curtis is the walter white of warhammer

[@luketfer]

interesting, a long time ago I had custom miniatures made and this was back when metal minis were a thing, I had the moulds done and they were this thick rubber type deal and it looked like the models were cast using spincasting, where you pour molten metal and then spin the machine up so it forces all the metal into all the details of the mould. I did have the opportunity to buy one of those machines but it was just waaaay too much for me at the time.

[@WilliamChoochootrain]

How exactly does one get the Presentaur mini? I first saw it just a couple hours ago on Rogue Hobbies' channel, and now I'm seeing it here while looking up how to recast warhammer minis.

[@Miscast]

it was just a gift for louise! its not a real mini

[@Bluecho4]

In the old days - like, pre-20th century - Copyright was a fairly well understood idea. You, the individual artist, had a monopoly on your art for seven years, or 14 years. Long enough for you to make a living off it. Then, when that period was up, your art entered the Public Domain. It was part of the commons now. Everyone had a right to perform or recreate or iterate on it, because it had been long enough to be part of everyone's culture. And presumably, if you were an artist, you would have made more than the one piece of art in your lifetime, so it's not THAT bad that you might lose exclusivity on it within your lifetime. That was how Copyright worked back in the day, and it was a system both usable and reasonable. In the age of corporations and Capital, nothing is reasonable. There is only the insane notions of "Infinite Growth" and "Corporations As People". Laws for Copyright were changed, not only allowing a company to own Copyright on what should be the province of the artists who made the work, but allowing those companies to cling to ownership of those works long after their creators are dead. Rather than relinquishing their claims, and letting the works enter the commons where they belong. Warhammer, much like Dungeons & Dragons, is old enough that, in a sane world, they would have entered the Public Domain by now. Warhammer is as much, if not moreso, a Folk Tradition than an IP. People skirt around the edges of Copyright to contribute to that Folk Tradition. They will do so regardless of what the company wants. We, as fans of Warhammer, have a _duty_ to treat Warhammer as ours, however we can.

[@Ferenc-Racz]

1:22 Hi. im still beginer in this field. what matter did you use for the miniature? Is liquid resin equal with epoxy resin?

[@livanbard]

I also believe models belongs to us if no matter how many lawyers they throws at stuff. Also I know it was not the focus of the video but those frogs with ramshackle stuff on them are top notch.

[@liesureleeminis8268]

You got me with space skaven. I want to convert adeptus mechanicus

[@legionnaire5966]

Love your attitude and your work! Keep going!

[@sigmatus303]

Thanks for the extra tips when casting mate

[@jackhammer40k_]

This is sick. I love everything you do

[@thefollowingisatest4579]

Your workspace has always screamed art studio, but Curtis' screams drug lab, and they both look awesome.

[@EmoKillsBest]

First off, awesome episode! I think US copyright law (not sure about international) states that anything an AI makes can't be copyrighted, so you could potentionally use that as your argument for the model you sculpted. I also believe that for something to be "an original work" it has to be modified a certain percentage. I'm unsure if that includes taking piece from model A, B, C and D, and making a new model altogether, but it could be argued that way. Also if you just give away the models after someone gives you that $10 they owe you, that's just being a nice person. 😉 Side note, I can't wait for my book to come! I've been resisting looking at the digital version because I don't want to spoil it for myself.

[@lonk2902]

right now there's a lot of debate on if AI art can be copyrighted and if so by who, either a law has to be made by them lawmakers they got in the Washington or we need to wait for a case to actually result in some good case law on the subject. I'm interested to find out how it'll go. I also don't think that the work not being under copyright protection itself means that it can't infringe on copyright, but I'm not 100% sure on that. In US law there is fair use which I think is what you are referring to with something having to be modified. It is deliberately kinda vague so that it can change on a case by case basis as well as over time since there isn't one correct way to do this that covers every edge case well. Used to be if you tried to make a profit you'd usually not fall under fair use at all but now yeah it's more based on how much you change a work, specifically it'd have to change in meaning. However, since this could be argued as directly taking a market from warhammer as the minis could be used as proxies that does make it less likely to be considered fair use. But in the end for smaller creators what it often comes down to is; are you willing to fight the lawsuit in the first place or do you just give up as soon as you get a cease and desist? Since going to court with a big company is a huge risk that could put you in life long debt if you lose and even if you wouldn't lose they can stretch the court case out till you can't afford it.

[@Shuller883]

mad scientist tutorial 101

[@chroniclesoftinybattles]

I've sculpted my very first miniatures - and looking to make a mold, so your video comes at the perfect time for me ha! I get that vacuum chamber and pressure pot are opposite mechanism, though they're both meant to get rid off bubbles. So what would be the difference ? Thanks for your video!

[@Miscast]

Awwwesome. vacuum sucks out bubbles, pressure pot shrinks the bubbles that are left. You cant shrink bubbles that are too big, so thats why I use both.

[@chroniclesoftinybattles]

@@Miscast I see, thanks for the clarification

[@marble.viccie]

Came for the process, stayed for the feels