How to refill a one pound propane bottle

In this video I'll share with you some of my thoughts and I'll show you how I refill my own 1lb. propane bottles. I don't accept any responsibility for anything that may happen as a result of watching this video. this video is intended for entertainment purposes only! Enjoy!
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[@donhendershot9705]

A 5 minute video stretched into 25 minutes.

[@jiujitsu2000]

True, can't please everyone. I have over 1072 videos and think you should be thankful for the info that I provide. I nominate YOU... I challenge YOU to put your money where yout mouth is and create a 5 minute video of this topic. Please let me know when it's finished. I'd love to see what you come up with. Thank you for stopping by. I hope you have a beautiful day and look forward to viewing your work. 🙂

[@mikenelsonre]

@@jiujitsu2000 Thank you for taking the time to make this video and share your method. I appreciate how thorough it was with the emphasis on safety.

[@johnwan75146]

Actually 12:30 but whatever, right?

[@jiujitsu2000]

@@zellmunna8857 lol... Love it! You'd never say that to my face.

[@jiujitsu2000]

@@mikenelsonre thank you so much!

[@rogertalley7944]

Cool info on propane and excellent safety advice. Being a man that works in propane daily, actually the little needle valve is a pressure relief valve. If the tank is in the sun or somehow back feeds from a higher pressure. That needle valve will release the pressure automatically so the little tank doesn't burst.

[@richardmittra3502]

Thank you for another piece of valuable wisdom on a very important subject. It is very much appreciated.

[@MAINTMAN73]

I used to work at the factory in maize Kansas where the majority of the small Coleman bottles were manufactured. They are two steel cups that are made on a punch press and braised together in giant ovens. They are typically filled at about 1,700 PSI in the filling machine. They are filled by volume and not by weight. There is also no attempt to remove the residual air from the bottle before they are filled. The air that's in the bottle it's compressed when they fill it with propane, however it's such a rich environment the explosion potential is non-existent because you're way above the uEL for propane. They have a burst pressure of about 700 PSI. If memory serves about three bottles out of every thousand produced are hydrostatically tested. They usually fail at slightly over 700 PSI in the quality lab. propane that goes into most of these bottles is stored in a big salt dome outside of Hutchinson Kansas. To get this propane for putting in the bottles they inject brine into the salt dome and pump propane back out. As a result from time to time there were issues with the trucking company where in they would be loads of Brine delivered instead of propane. This led to a lot of appliances being ruined because people use propane that was contaminated with salt water, and it wasn't detected until the production machinery started failing, and one of the maintenance guys tasted the white powdery stuff inside the pump that broke down. These bottles will typically blow up and expand scary big before they actually fail and explode. The failure typically does not produce shrapnel but a longitudinal split in the side of the container. The valve that you connect your appliance to it's called the main valve and the other one is called the releif valve. These things are a serious safety hazard when refilled. It would be hard to prove that anybody actually refilled one but the Department of transportation fine is huge if you get caught.It is critically important that these not be filled more than 80% for everyone's safety. It's also a great idea to lubricate the o-ring inside the main valve with a little bit of o-ring lube, KY jelly or glycerin. I would definitely recommend against using anything petroleum-based because there are different types of a rings used from time to time and petroleum could cause it to expand and fail over time if a person we're going to use a bottle one time it wouldn't matter but if you're planning on giving your bottles a long life with multiple refills it would be a good idea to lube the o-ring. At the factory a liberally dust the o-rings with dry moly lube. This does most of the production process running smoothly then it does to help the life of the o-ring. I would recommend Parker o-ring lube over everything else. These cylinders are now made by Worthington as they bought the Coleman factory in maize Kansas. I no longer associated with that operation or company in any way, just passing on my experiences. Stay safe everyone!

[@athomas2803]

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[@sandymoppin2642]

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[@dtnel]

@@Jj-gi2uv Gas tankers are actually more dangerous empty than loaded due to the vapors. We had a local competitor back in the 90's welding the back gas tank compartment and they hadn't properly steamed the void and removed the drain plug in the void. The end result was it cost him his life and in the end his body was forced so hard into the back wall of the compartment that the aluminum showed a body outline from the force when the void exploded. Voids in tanks are there for a reason and very dangerous if not taken care of properly before welding.

[@robertdake594]

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[@davidcook5472]

I watched a lot of videos on how to refill a 1 lb. propane tank I have, and yours was by far the most helpful! Thank you!!

[@jiujitsu2000]

thank you for the very kind words and support that you give my channel! have a beautiful day thanks for stopping by!!

[@NostraDamnU88]

I’ve had them start leaking after a few refills. I never trust a refill when I don’t have a valve attached (a torch, heater, or anything). Now that I have some money, and spending a few bucks doesn’t matter, I don’t risk it. The self sealing fitting is not designed to work for more than a couple tanks worth of action. I would suggest a torch to empty it, so you don’t damage the seal with a screwdriver, and you don’t exceed the spring’s design range. I’m not convinced emptying it helps you anyway, but do it the way it’s designed.

[@mrbill1683]

I had a new ones leak.... in a BOAT. refilling disposables is not where I want to save a dollar. never store them inside.

[@ibcnu2987]

​@@mrbill1683 As the warning says on the bottle; "Don't TRANSPORT illegally refilled bottles! Transporting them is apparently more dangerous than just using them around the house. The bottles seem to know when they're being transported and get upset about it, so you can only take new bottles camping, not angry refilled ones.

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[@daleryan7882]

great job ! its kinda sad peope have to beek off about filling with propane when they clearly dont know or have any facts regarding the gas. propane is a safe product aslong as common safety sense is used...and clearly you have shown that. i learned something new from you today.. thank you for sharing, regards from Dale, vancouver, b.c., canada

[@IwasBoredintheUK]

Freezing the receiving tank has two benefits 1) condenses air to allow more propane (a coincidental benefit ) and 2) prevents the liquid propane expanding to gas on initial charge (the main reason) . HOWEVER in the UK (and other countries presumably) inverting the large propane (or butane & other combustible gases & oxygen) you will find the bottles have a shutoff valve built in when the liquid contacts it. This is a deliberate design to prevent bottles gassing when rolling around in accidents etc ( engineer, hire trader, sparky & mechanic )

[@scrippslarry]

Excellent video! Well done and the perfect length actually! So glad you explained the purpose of each of the valves on the bottle. I’d seen videos on refilling but none mentioned releasing the air in advance from the bottle. Good idea. I also wondered about the other valve (emergency release valve). Good tip not to mess with that one! Thanks again. p.s ignore the haters!

[@claudiaofcolorado9473]

I love the 'unpretentiousnous' of videos like this

[@oldprophet]

Now that I've gave several penny stove to friends & fam, Now I'll be need 'n' to refill my empty propane bottles. Very informative, Great vid. Thanx.

[@stevecastro1325]

Thanks for all the helpful and safety explanations! I was wondering about whether or not to open the overfill valve; I definitely will not mess with it now.

[@markhall7646]

Keep this tutorial as it is. Some folks need that long intro. Believe me. Kudos!

[@Crysco.mp3]

I've learned so much from man's videos it's unreal. He has a video for almost every question I have.

[@dr.jamesduckworth8784]

I always tare my new full 1lb cylinders and write the factory weight on the bottle with a paint pen. That's the best way to know how close you are to the safe maximum refill level.

[@bingosunnoon9341]

That's not how it's done.

[@KATONKA...]

I love watching video's about refilling these canister's and the comment's....crack's me up. Let me first say that you can buy the adapter just about anywhere including eBay and Walmart. You can also purchase a hose that will allow you to use a bigger tank on item's that use the canister's. Here is the easiest and safest way to do this. NO REFRIGERATION NEEDED! Get a needle valve remover like they use for a tire valve stem. If you get the cap type then just put it on an old valve stem. Before hooking the tank and canister up, make sure you SLIGHTLY crack open the pressure relief valve IN THE LITTLE HOLE. Hook the canister to tank, open tank valve SLOWLY then invert. Try to keep the purge valve on canister about the 10/11 or 1/2 o'clock position when filling. Pressure will escape while filling. When filled, retighten needle valve. Stand tank back up, THEN shut off. Disconnect the two. Check with soapy water or whatever you use for leak's. SAFETY NOTE: ALWAYS WEAR GOGGLES, (NOT GLASSES) AND GLOVE'S? "keep the faith people, and keep on keeping on"

[@promotolife3783]

As a side note you can weigh the bottle before and after to be sure they aren't overfilled so you avoid problems when the gas expands as it warms up. Stay safe! Great video...thank you!

[@GaryWRose]

yes i do this

[@larrymcnamara5518]

Where do you find the tools to transfer the propane from the big tank to the small one? Thanks!

[@Hoaxer51]

Larry McNamara, I use to see the at Northerntool.com. Try them and good luck.

[@Hoaxer51]

Larry McNamara, try mparam.com and go to products, then propane refill kits. Good luck again.

[@NeoAH90]

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[@BUSTRCHERRI]

For all of you that think it's going to get overfilled it's impossible. This is not a forced electronic propane fill up station. This is just a teanfer from another bottle. The amount that will go into the one pounder is going to measures by the pressure of the 40 pound bottle. It will never exceed the pressure of the main filler bottle. It will only fill as much as the pressure will allow it. Example. If the main bottle has less than a 1/4 of liquid in it then the bottle being filled will not receive as much liquid as if the main bottle was full. Its all about the pressure that it's able to force and that's it. A fill up station for vehicles and bottles WILL overkill any bottle of you're not paying attention. Spitter valves are your way to tell on a vehicle.

[@patriciasummers8881]

I appreciate you going to the trouble to show how to refill these bottles. I have always been appalled at how these propane bottles are supposed to be thrown away! The amount of metal they contain alone should say they should be refilled. I saw where they say don’t refill them so I never tried it but your reading the warning and pointing out that the rub is essentially only if they are transported makes it clear that they can certainly be refilled for ones own use. Personally I’d like to have some sort of pressure gauge on the bottle but I was really impressed at your practical and thrifty practice of refilling those bottles. Thank you so much!

[@PAPATexas]

Good video. The good thing is you read the warnings for traveling with re-filled bottles, and safety 1st. Thanks for sharing.

[@jiujitsu2000]

PAPA Texas Awesome comment. Thank you brotha!

[@chevyvantravel9735]

but i want to travel with them since i am going camping...:(

[@edermitt]

"why is it unsafe to travel with a refilled bottle"...It's only unsafe if the bottle has been overfilled which is possible to do. The overfilled the bottle may vent gas through the pressure relief valve in an environment such as a hot vehicle. To prevent this it's best to weigh your refilled bottles to insure they are not overfilled. "how could the government possibly know a bottle has been refilled?'...You'd tell them. The law regarding the transport of refilled bottles only pertains to COMMERCIAL carriers.

[@uacl028]

great idea on the campground tip

[@baucomfamily]

Ready to fail??? Not likely.

[@davidb.3675]

I have been doing this for 17 years and have had zero issues, other than leaks. I have never had a cylinder even come close to overfilling.. 100% of the time they end up lighter than a new/full one. This is what I've learned: 1) This works much better if you put the green cylinders in the freezer for an hour first. I could never get them more than half-full otherwise. 2) Never refill any non-Coleman cylinder. They will leak 80% of the time after refilling. 3) Have a propane appliance (e.g. stove valve) handy. Very often the valve will leak for a few minutes after filling, and the propane appliance will seal it off until the cylinder re-equilibrates to room temp and the valve seals better.

[@jiujitsu2000]

David B. Excellent comment! thank you for sharing

[@seal869]

Thanks. Some guy on another channel mentioned "why put these in the refrigerator beforehand since they get very cold during the refill anyways." This misses the point. They get cold because the gas from the larger tank expands as it enters the lower pressure tank; this expansion always produces cooling. Conversely, pre-cooling the tank will keep the gas from expanding as much (or in other words, it will lower the volume of the gas at a given pressure). That's why you get better filling with a pre-chilled tank! It just makes sense.

[@e-racer4673]

JIUJITSU2000 It’s the same as refilling a NOS Nitrous bottle. You need to purge after you put them in the freezer. When the bottle freezes it shrinks, so open the valve to let pressure out then when it warms up it will cause a vacuum. That way you get more fuel in the tank if you don’t believe me weigh the small tank doing it your way after filling and then weigh the next small tank doing it my Way and see which is heavier. It also works better and you get more fuel/propane if the Large tank is like 85°. If the big tank is cold the pressure is lower. If it gets too much pressure in the small tank it will pop the blow off valve just for a minute. I’ve had them do it from just sitting in my garage in the summer time.

[@danielcollins531]

David B. The little valve is 80% check valve so you dont over fill.

[@Tecknut75]

Daniel Collins That is my question is it not only supposed to be filled to 80% ? Just like a large house LP tank? I always try to have mine filled when it is cold outside to increase volume? Please correct me if I'm wrong. TY

[@433510]

Good job explaining the process on refilling the propane bottles. Well explain and demonstrated.

[@mmercier0921]

I have been refilling the same 1.9lb propane tanks for a decade. Probably have 20 of them in rotation. Oil the rubbers every few years. If the older tanks budge, toss them. I get best results by hanging the large tank upside down, connecting the small unit, and a gradual opening. I weigh them before and after. I can usually get 1.5lb in the cylinder. Do this outdoors, and store refilled bottles in a cool space. I had a dozen I left in my shed... They allswelled up like balloons. Scary shit, but I used them all and tossed the cylinders. If you look, you can usually find single use cylinders in people's trash. I have not bought a bottle in a decade. Probably use 50 a year. I generally refill in December. $30 gets me about 30refilled cylinders. Amazon sells the valve connector.

[@corvetcoyote443]

Glad I watched this, I didn't know you had to put these bottles in the freezer for a few minutes first,then turn the big tank upside down as you refill the green cylinder,will definitely keep that in mind 👍

[@JacobIsaacSolomon]

I had no idea it was illegal to transport refillable bottles. I'm so glad it wasn't a short 5 minute video. I must have broken the law a few dozens times and didn't even know. Not to mention but, I will mention that if a fatality occurred, in the process, I would have been prosecuted. The warning labels were far gone years ago.

[@googlesbitch]

Propane is about 110psi at room temperature and goes up to 200psi when around 120F. The valve you are referring to is a safety maximum over pressure relieve valve and is prone to failure if messed with by applying outward stress with needle nose pliers to purge excess air. This safety valve is set to around 240 psi limit and to properly bleed excess air you need a special longer stem removal tool and the common valve removal tool is too short. For those who use the pliers method, mark tank each time you refill it and limit it to 5 times as a safety limit. Weight tank after filling and leave it outside until the next day and weigh it again. There should be no change in weight and no propane smell. The typical weight of empty 1 lb propane tank is 14.6 oz plastic base and 15.5 oz metal base. By the way propane should be refilled out side.

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[@Macdivers1]

Joe Blow I did his the other day. I didn't know to put it in the freezer and I did weigh it and it was around a lb capicity. I smelled for gas leaking fromm the Coleman. Now thanks to you I now know zackly how to fill it. Oh, I had wondered about the smaller hole and now know not to mess with it. Thanks!

[@Micko350]

Joe Blow aka burp valve, hey Homer!

[@dehoedisc7247]

I applaud the emphasis on Safety while refilling propane bottles, for the obvious reason That It Is The Right Thing To Do. Great presentation.

[@jeanpierredespres5196]

Why not doing this operation outside!!! Safety first?

[@rgon9724]

Excellent video and instructions. You are on point. Anyone who doesnt know much about this topic, you give direct and peripheral information. Thank you.

[@MasterK9Trainer]

I'm glad you made this video. I have been watching you for years.

[@jmsmaxwell]

I've seen this dun before by a friend. He fill approx 10 bottles but the only difference was he had fabricated a stand to hold the big bottle upside down approximately 12 inched above the table. Then all he had to do was attach a bottle to the larger tank, open the value and fill the small bottle. After it was filled he unscrewed the small bottle and had the others handy (in a freezer) and he would reach in and attach another one. He would also weight each bottle empty and filled for consistency.

[@ParadigmUnkn0wn]

If this is something you do often, you may want to look into picking up a liquid-feed propane tank. They have a tube that draws liquid from the bottom of the tank when it's upright or laying sideways. Forklift propane tanks are liquid feed, as are many industrial propane tanks. They aren't necessarily more expensive than a normal tank. That and if you get a separate propane vaporizer you can then run your grill off your liquid propane tank and get the benefits that come along with it.

[@condor5635]

How is that type different from turning over a 20 lb tank? Upside down feeds liquid which is the whole point of turning it upside down

[@Alpine-Custom-Carpentry]

@@condor5635 I think he was only commenting on the different size and weight of the tank.

[@albinstroniarz807]

You are very intelligent!.. Thank you for sharing your experience!..Some have added more points, that are welcome, but YOU have shown the info that is not readily available.

[@vernroach3413]

Common sense instruction...Being in the HVAC trade, I have seen guys refill smaller factory tanks, them being lighter, from larger tanks and that is also frowned on...Some have over filled them....They get hot in a van and become a bomb...I've seen the damage and seen jobs lost because of it....There are common sense approaches to refilling any tank, and this is one of them...."DON'T OVER FILL"...They go boom!....My thanks to the gent that made this video.

[@ColonelEmpire]

Well done... Appreciate the seriousness and humor mix...great balance. Timing...all about timing...

[@Waderizer]

Great video, love the safety and re-use, I think the Schrader valve beside the threaded port is an over-pressure relieve valve.

[@riexplorer1]

Love ur video! With that said, like you, it's all about safety! I do the same thing you do but with an extra twist. I weigh the empty bottle that is about 14.5 ounces give or take (Harbor Freight scale). When I fill them I only put about 3/4 of the 16 ounces or 12 ounces give or take in the can (roughly 27 ounces total weight). QYes it can take more but why risk over pressuring it. I have enough of these that it really don't matter if they are not full. It's better to be safe and not sorry! Great video!

[@craigh.9810]

Good idea. If you have plenty of cylinders why take a chance?

[@QuantumPyrite_88.9]

Excellent information and I find your putting the bottles in the freezer for 15 minutes very interesting . Telling people not to mess with the pressure relief safety and using soapy water to check for leaks is very good advice . Many thumbs up from New Mexico and new subscriber my friend . Lefty

[@imalover4011]

I can smell the propane all the way out here in lake L.A. California...but respect to you, it's very educational, constructive, insperational. Thank you for making video.

[@jonathanrosenesq202]

Great video : Helpful, direct, exact how to step by step with brief explanation as to the "why" of the process. Reminder of safety much appreciated. Thank you for your service in the Navy.

[@wholebird]

I've been frustrated by the under-fills I've experienced doing this. First time I've heard about putting bottle in the freezer. Thanks so much! The is not "recycling": it's REUSE. The best way to get more life out of the (supposedly) "single use" items we buy. Great to see the safety ideas here too. Probably best done outside: propane sinks to the floor, and if there's an ignition source nearby (hot water heater)...no fun. Thanks!

[@FloryJohann]

Thank you for the warning etc and the information at the intro and of course the actual filling of the tank. A all around good informative video and it was right down to the points at all levels.

[@mikeb46]

From research I have done, the federal law forbidding transportation was established to prevent explosions in vehicles and or trailers. If a person is not careful they can disturb the valves which will leak. Now put 4 of those leakers in the trunk of a car and you have a good amount of LP waiting for a spark. If all you do is refill, check for leaks at the valve and store at home, you should be safe. I don't know how the feds would determine it had been refilled if there was a problem on the road. But telling fire and police the were factory canisters would bring the company into the investigation and I'm sure they can afford better lawyers than the average citizen. So transport refilled cylinders at your own peril. The fine is huge. The way you do this should be safe. The ones who pull that relief valve are asking for trouble. Worse yet, holding it open to push in more gas could allow a person to overfill. Then you have a dangerous situation. If it gets warm it could burst, or leak and KABOOM.

[@Russ92]

Brother nice video. Forget the haters. You've done the most informative and detailed video on KZbin.

[@earlphillips9754]

Been doing this for years for my golf cart heater. I fill it in the winter. First I bring the big bottle in the house to let the warm room raise the pressure. I leave the little bottle outside to lower the pressure in it. Then I bring the big bottle back out side and fill it the same way you did.

[@loboheeler]

Lots of ongoing comments and questions since this video came out. let me answer some of these from my 35 yearts of gas delivery equipment experience. Random order. Some of the 1 lb. bottle main valves do leak even after the first use. Mr. Heater does sell a hard cap. Best way to determine fill level is with a scale. You want 1 pound over the empty bottle weight. Hoses from the supply tank to the receiving bottle should not be used unless they are cryogenic hoses. Soft hoses will tend to vaporise the liquid propane, thus a short metal connection is best. Lots of places to get a propane tank refill adapter. My local Ace Hardware has them in stock, but at a high price. Walmart has the Mr. Heater one online for cheap. Overfilling would be hard to do. It does take procedures like freezing the bottle and venting the pressure to get a full fill. A warm bottle will vaprorize the liquid, and not let as much liquid in. Optimum liquid fill is 80% of bottle capacity. The other 20% is vapor in what is called "headspace". OPD bottles were mandated because many operators would fill them too much. They would overpressure if warmed, opening the releif valve. I have had this happen in a vehicle after cold weather filling! 1 lb. bottles don't have any overfill protection. If you overfill (measured by weight) just vent some out. Most 20/30 pound propane tanks don't have a liquid tap, which why you have to invert them. Not sure if larger residential tanks do. You do not want idiots to do this!!!

[@GreatBoneStructure]

Appreciate your attention to safety.

[@jerrygunsalus5368]

I'd recommend using a hose to connect the two bottles. And put the smaller bottle in water while filling. 1) this would allow you to see if there's any leaking. 2) this will cool the smaller bottle while filling and 3) if there is an explosion the water will help contain such.

[@ronplucksstrings7112]

Excellent comment and info Jerry! Pressurized gas stores a lot of energy! When we (re)fill breathing airtanks at the fire house, this is done in a blast containment cabinet for the same reason...without it, if one of those bottles lets go, you wouldn't want to be in the same county! Also, when under water, if the overpressure valve is leaking even just a little bit, it would be pretty obvious...

[@craiglaub5659]

have you done this? seems to me there would be an unsafe amount of liquid propane in the hose released when you disconnect.

[@davidhutcheson1194]

I bought the adapter for $10 and it has saved me 100's on my shop propane heater.

[@zeke112964]

Buy the hose adapter for the 20 Lb bottle...I forget what mine cost.....This one's $6.99 + tax......www.amazon.com/GasOne-Propane-Adapter-Converter-Certified/dp/B073KV4WLJ

[@dalebronniman7302]

Been doing this for decades. Works great. Remember to freeze the small bottle in the freezer for 30 minutes prior.

[@kathrynkenyon785]

TOTALLY AWESOME! Thanks for teaching us how to be our own boss! You DO have pretty eyes. :-) And MOST ESPECIALLY...THANK YOU FOR PUTTING SAFETY FIRST!

[@jiujitsu2000]

Thank you for the very kind words and support! Have a beautiful night!

[@tomcrow1452]

Dipping the bottle in a bucket of water to check leaks works also...thanks for the video..

[@jiujitsu2000]

Thank you!

[@davidphillips5840]

Thanks man,I bought one of them adapter,will help a bunch.We tend have power go out alot and I got several things to run on propane,got two full 20 lber now.

[@randytrivitt6539]

What are the adapters actually called for the conversion fill up adapter!! I would really need one and would like to know so I can go get me one please!! 😅

[@MuskratJim]

Hey Skeeter, I got myself one of those adapters for the 'modern' propane tanks (outside threads). I tried refilling a one-pound bottle the other day and nothing happened, so I had to come back and watch your video again... yup, I missed a bunch of steps... lol Thanks again for the video!!

[@jcpad1797]

You are an excellent and natural teacher! Great job on all your videos.

[@catchncookcalifornia1574]

"I might look funny in these safety glasses but I have both eyes" Lol! Great vid man, It seems crazy that we do not do this more! Those bottles are not recyclable to my knowledge, so why not reuse them? And yeah man, the last one I bout was $6!!!! This was a very well thought out tutorial. Thanks man!

[@jamesmoreton]

Man your wrong on the recycling thing there all recyclable think about it why wouldn't they recycle. ?

[@numb3r663]

Hes wrong on well thought out...amateurs ;)

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[@crj6551]

Mainly because they have propane in them. . . The recycling guys are told not to take them because they potentially can explode. . . Empty them, saw them in half, and then they'll probably take them. . . Same thing with pressurized cans of all types. . .

[@floydhobbs9904]

@@jamesmoreton It is hard to find anyone to accept them. Most recycle places want you to cut them in half first. Don't even want them in the land fills. Just saying.

[@robertyuille3774]

Thanks for not having any background music/noise during this important video

[@paulwilson7275]

You should NEVER completely empty a fuel gas cylinder. As pressure drops to zero air fills the space and so humidity gets in and can cause rust to form. Eventually rust may form interior pin hole leaks. Adapter available via Harbor Freight.

[@brewsterly2927]

Same with SCUBA tanks.

[@johngunnerson1924]

wish he would have talked about liquid propane and propane vapor pressure that is the gas that used by the stove and how the liquid evaporates within the tank and developes a head pressure and how ambient temperature can increase the pressure and why propapane tanks and semi trailers are white so sun won't cause pressure relief valves to open

[@ralphbailey8234]

Thanks I just picked up the adapter awhile back I knew about the freezer but not turning bottle upside down. I've got a Mr buddy heater that I've got the adapter for a large bottle but like to have small bottles filled and in it, to make it as easy as possible for my wife ! Happy wife happy life ! Again thanks for sharing....

[@suziewong2181]

Really good info. I have two very large propane canisters and many small empty Coleman propane canisters.

[@rooster6271]

Awesome video, great emphasis on safety!...

[@jiujitsu2000]

Thank you!

[@williamvolkmann8658]

you can get them fuller by warming the 30lb and freezing the 1lb first // a cap is recommended for 1lb as they leak on repeat use

[@foxbatviper]

these are free once they are refilled there is no need to over pressusize.. the space is to allow for expansion if the get heated in the sun

[@johnosullivan6620]

do you mean a threaded metal cap ? is there such a thing? Or the plastic cap it comes with?

[@djg585]

Never warm ANY propane tank or bottle!!!

[@daveerwin115]

Well this pretty much guarantees over filling and either a regulated venting or an unregulated venting if there is any kind of flaw in the cylinder. this practice is like reloading ammunition next to an open flame .

[@dbow5077]

Yeah, I agree. I hook the acetylene torch up and just keep it moving until the 20 lb tank is around 195 F. Can get 2 lbs in a 1 lb bottle that way. Btw, the above was sarcasm. I dont actually do this.

[@BUSTRCHERRI]

I made my own adapter with some propane fittings I had. Took about 5 minutes to find them all and put it together. Works perfectly.

[@whome7004]

Great way to make the cheapest way to get away a bit more affordable! Every Penny counts these days and u got a new subscriber with this example of working man Smarts!👍

[@davidj.wilcox6053]

It's still NOT full. Put it back in the freezer one or two more times and repeat the refill process. Then let it sit outside a few days. As it warms up it may vent if over filled. I also let my 20# cylinder sit in the sun a few hours to increase the pressure. It will inject more propane with each refill. Been refilling my cylinders for years with good results. Dave

[@jiujitsu2000]

+David J. Wilcox are you joking or serious? This sounds dangerous. Thank you for sharing

[@NeoAH90]

Very dangerous

[@ronswonke8109]

If you have to buy the adapter and keep up with the empty one pound bottles why don't you just buy a hose that adapts from the 5 lb propane bottles to the mr. Heater or Mister Lantern or mister camp stove they make a hose that goes from the 5-pound bottle to any of your camping equipment about a 10-foot hose

[@albernal6653]

good to recycle. I think it would be a good idea to weigh an empty tank, then fill it to see its refill capacity.

[@ronmartin4845]

Al Good idea ! I am thinking to weigh a full tank and write down it's weight . Use the tank till it's empty and then weigh the empty one and write down it's weight . This may help You see the extremes and help You with refilling . What do You think ?

[@Mr71chevyvan]

freezing the empty tank overnight allows for a greater refill. always do the job outdoors.

[@andydundas2443]

Another excellent video! I've had the fitting for refilling for awhile, but wasn't sure how to go about it. Thanks to you I do now. 👍

[@riexplorer1]

Like this whole propane refill thing. A few things that I have found is at a lot of campgrounds have a separate container to dispose of these bottles right next to the dumpsters so you don't really need to go through the trash to find them. Freezing them is good but not necessary. Both ways work the same for me. And last my overcautious self will use a Harbor Freight scale to measure the weight of the empty bottle and weight it once or twice when you refill it. When I take it off to check the weight I also put a small screwdriver in the center hole for just a second or so to bleed out any air. I won't put more than 75% of propane in when I refill. Why bother taking any chances when you can refill them again anyways. Stay safe and enjoy! I must also say stay legal but hey I can't really tell anybody what to do so.........

[@mcampos12009]

thanks my friend you saved me a lot of money, and I have a question, I'm not a plumber, but can you fill the blue solder tank used by plumbers? Sincerely, Miguel Campos

[@tootal2pp]

Yes you can fill the plumber bottles. I do it with no problems

[@alexandresemenov6588]

I like emphasis on safety, but refilling those bottles on reloading bench probably not a good idea, most people me included do have lubricants, primers and gun powder around reloading equipment. Personally, when i do refill those bottles, i don't see a need to get all gas out. if you were to buy brand new propane tank before you use it, it must be purged (removing oxygen or nitrogen), so equalizing tank with atmospheric pressure, probably not a good idea. Another thing i did find out, leaving 1lb propane bottle in freezer and 20 lb bottle at around 24 degrees celcius, never gets 1 lb filled more then 65-70%, i did check it with digital scale (normally bottles are filled to 80%), which is great safety factor. Great tip on getting those bottles from campgrounds, thats where i got most of mine. Little valve beside, is not for letting air out, its pressure relief valve, preventing tank exploding in abnormal conditions. One thing i do like to add, occasionally when you done filling a tank, valve on 1lb tank could stick a little, have a piece of copper wire near by and quickly depressing valve usually makes it close properly, don't use steel screwdriver (steel on steel could create spark). And once you bottle been refilled a few times and empty they do make a great target at range.

[@jiujitsu2000]

great, thanks for sharing your thoughts Happy Thanksgiving

[@kevinsheeler6]

I have been in the propane industry for over 18 years! I think jujitsu means well but what he is doing is extreeeeeeemly dangerous! How are you going to feel when you are in the burn unit and you have to explain how you saved $2.00

[@beatrixjones2982]

Love common sense and this fella actually has some! Great job. Happy new subscriber right here.

[@juliareginapena8450]

Thank you!!!, very very very useful to me. I already got my valve, and did my first try. I use them with air heaters and in my country these bottles are very expensive! God bless you.

[@fredrutledge3628]

Thank you for the lesson. I see that you are a reloader and perhaps a caster, way to go. Fred

[@if6was929]

Gloves, wear gloves when releasing the remaining gas from the small cylinder. Propane is cold and when released fast its really cold, it can burn your fingers.

[@lloydsims1573]

I filled and delivered LPG (liquid petroleum gas - propane) in 33, 44, and 100 pound tanks. Once a tank valve failed while being filled (outdoor covered platform in the winter) and I was sprayed from my waist to my left shoulder with liquid propane. I was wearing an undershirt, quilted long sleeve insulated top, uniform shirt, knit sweater, and a Carhart jacket - 5 layers. The liquid propane went all the way to my skin and left what looked like a burn - red and swollen. It took about 3 weeks for that instant frostbite to heal. As propane evaporates it chills to -44 F.

[@headpainter1]

@@lloydsims1573 damn bro. Never underestimate compressed gasses of any kind. Or electricity or women. Any of which could kill quickly.

[@lloydsims1573]

@@headpainter1 LOL - my wife just read that!

[@claudexy]

you ARE funny, but don't look funny with your safety glasses on...you look smart because you are wearing them...:) great video..you taught me a lot, thanks and take care buddy...lol

[@dalec03]

I have the attachment, and I didn't know to freeze the bottle first. I'm glad I found your video. I learnt something today. Thanks! we

[@astrorad2000]

I use my wife's postal scale when I refill mine. The empty bottles are about 14 ounces and when full they should be 30 ounces. I don't worry about the bottle being completely empty. I just weigh them after filling and if over 30 or 31 ounces, I use an allen hex key to let some gas out until they are at the correct weight. I do this all outside. Thanks for your video.

[@wolfdogcody]

You should use a food scale to weigh your empty bottle......then weigh it when full and make sure you don't overfill the bottle..........ALWAYS SAFETY FIRST WITH EXPLOSIVE GAS

[@Terryblount]

How can you overfill a tank? If you don't open the bleeder valve propane won't come in. If you open the bleeder valve propane will just run out when its full.

[@kimmer6]

I hit one of those cylinders with a 50BMG incendiary round. It done blowed up in a giant fireball.

[@timothylongmore7325]

Theres a video of I guy shooting a row of them. The second go two came back at him! About a hundred yards at least. Pretty cool though. Nice fireball there too. He filmed it with highspeed so there was a nice slo-mo

[@kimmer6]

@@timothylongmore7325 AdTube removed my 50BMG videos permanently. I had a good short one of an old 486 computer hit with a 50BMG blue tip right in the floppy drive. That thing came apart in a fireball. We shot running Briggs & Stratton engines, diesel cylinder heads, and put an aluminum plate inside a Shakespere book that was hollowed out and was filled with shotgun powder. That was for my son's high school English teacher. About 1 in 10 of the propane cylinders detonated in a powerful blast where you could feel the shock wave. Other cylinders spun like fireworks or took off like rockets. This was in 1998. Hard to believe it was so long ago.

[@timothylongmore7325]

@@kimmer6 Nothing like a good explosion. When I was young and dumb we took some 12 gauge shells and wedge them in a cardboard tube put in a plug with a nail for a firing pin. Glue on some fins and chucked them off a railroad bridge on to the road below. Ka-blam. You'd get arrested for terrorism if ya did that shit nowadays

[@cliftons.335]

good video! just have a problem with the finding them in the trash. Could be a reason why it's in the trash other than being empty.

[@horaciocastillo1435]

Best places to find them are the trash cans at the National Parks, auto repair shops and plumbers if you know some of them,

[@jamelynch4474]

Thanks for the safety advice, especially about the little tire type valve. No video is too long regarding safety.

[@ruthnigh4012]

Excellent video! Thanks for showing a beginner how to do it safely!

[@vitty7465]

Thank God for the 10 sec. skip ahead feature

[@chrisscott1547]

I would not advocate valving off the last bit down to 0 psig - if you're not going to pull a vacuum in the destination tank, leave some pressure in it to prevent air entry. When propane mixes with air, it becomes more flammable.

[@jiujitsu2000]

Chris Scott thank you, I didn't know that

[@UpnorthHere]

Air also contains water vapor that can cause problems in the cylinder and the appliance to which it is later attached.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

Yup, as a scuba diver, unless transporting a tank on an airplane, the tank should always be pressurized just for the reason you mention - keep water out. Also, if a tank had to be emptied completely, it should undergo a tank inspection prior to refilling. Scuba tanks are typically at 3,000 psi when full and definitely heat up if filled too fast (bad scenario and people have paid the price for doing that). Propane cylinders are obviously less pressure but the concept is the same. Used to work for a couple of dive operations and filled many a tank and am a certified tank inspector.

[@kraigcochran9995]

I've seen those refill fittings at harbor freight

[@OpenCarryUSMC]

Not sure I'd trust a Harbor Freight item for this use. On the other hand, they're probably ALL made in China no mater where you buy them. LOL

[@horaciocastillo1435]

@@OpenCarryUSMC Bought mine on E-bay but they are very well made,do not worry about,after all they are a simple device.

[@bobpeg7457]

Walmart sells the refill adapter, too.

[@richk3325]

@@OpenCarryUSMC I think making sure the tank seals after its disconnected is most important. Even if adapter seeps a little, its only for the time it takes to transfer the gas. Prolly doesn't matter where you get it...

[@DocScience2]

And what is the special attachment adapter called, to look it up on ebay ?

[@Mastertech6]

out of all the comments, not one person says do OUTSIDE!!, i refill but outside in the driveway not in a very expensive house. have a spray bottle of glass cleaner or soap mix on hand and spray for leaks. I 'm still kinda weary of using this thing. GREAT VID !! Thanks for sharing.

[@user-hb8be5wb4q]

I have this adapter and have used it a few times, maybe 10, maybe less. This is very dangerous operation, so I never do it unless it’s an emergency, such as a power outage like this past winter we lost power for 4 1/2 days. THAT is the only times I ever use this thing. When I hook it up, I set it up, depart the area until the appointed time to come back. AND I look for leaks, listen for leaks, bulges, etc., then I shut off the large tank first. And if the small cylinder looks bad, dispose of it properly!

[@NorCalPoolsRocklin]

Can you link to the part that is needed to fill the canister

[@pranger37]

Good video, a little cheesy but very informative. Thanks for the video. P.S. I have my safety glasses on now😎

[@jimmytate7587]

To vent the empty small bottle, just thread the refill adapter onto the small bottle.....

[@jiujitsu2000]

true! thanks

[@jasondinault9812]

JIMMY TATE I

[@crj6551]

Probably not a good option. You don't want much in the way of atmospheric oxygen to back flow into the bottle. . . Pressing the schrader valve as JiuJitsu did is probably your best bet.

[@rottenrobbie66]

If you had an adapter that could connect it to an evacuation pump you could pull a vacuum on the bottle and freeze it . I bet it would fill up nicely then.

[@gmoore1289]

@@rottenrobbie66 That could refill it to 100% liquid. There must be space in the bottle of vapor to act as a shock when the pressure rises from heat. The bottles should be weighed to check for overfilling.

[@_yeager]

Use a weight scale to make sure you don’t overfill them. Also don’t mess with the pressure relief valve on the side. Where did you buy the adapter?

[@Kramer63]

You are downright hilarious I love the sense of humor toward the end of the video with the comments about your eyes

[@johngabriele6532]

How do you know it's not over filling it ?

[@dwsiu]

How do you know the Coleman canister is full while you filling it? Is it when you stop hearing the gas sound? Can you accidently over fill the canister?

[@resting2528]

D Siu yes, they can be over filled. use a scale to weigh the canister to be no heavier than original weight.

[@charlesdougherty7193]

D Siu

[@bradmetz2942]

I minute or when you hear the sound stop

[@barbaracroxton111]

no

[@waynewohlfahrt5465]

you most likely will over fill the canister. You are not to fill a propane tank more then 80% full. most are only filled to 75% for safety reasons. just like in a coke bottle you need an expansion space for safety. He turns the tank upside down to allow for the liquid propane to flow into the tank. This will fill the tank to 100% which is very bad. Be aware of this. Also the safety valve he talks about (using the pliers) should not be under the liquid or it will not function properly. When using a propane tank always have it upright so only gas comes out not liquid. Be very careful.

[@tophatter1443]

ther is coating to put in tanks to keep it from explolding

[@richardpedraza6256]

Some even have. A thin line of. Fiberglass tape

[@davidwiltshire5911]

Brilliant cost saving technique. Here in the UK our colour code for LPG (liquid petroleum gas) is orange. On site we use this gas as a low pressure alternative to acetylene which is very high pressure and has a very heavy storage tank. I am gonna try this refill system on our equivalent small lpg cans.

[@Nagap08]

Only a mother could love those eyes. Thanks for the review brother Skeet.

[@craigperry3390]

GOOD VIDEO FOR CAMPERS, BBQ, STARTERS PREPPERS..ETC.....READ THE OTHER SUGGESTION BELOW FIRST THOUGH~ BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS...ADAPTER AVAILABLE FROM AMAZON.

[@frostyinwi]

Any time you work with propane, you should always wear gloves. Propane is extremely cold and will burn your exposed flesh. If you take the time to put on safety glasses, also wear gloves. Otherwise great video. I agree that 1 lb tanks are easy to fill and they don`t need to be in a landfill.

[@jiujitsu2000]

thank you! 30k giveaway coming soon!!

[@frostyinwi]

+jiujitsu2000 My dad worked with propane for 35 years. Stressed safety and never had an accident. I refill my tanks, following his rules and have no issues. I also number my tanks and weigh my tanks. This is important so you don`t overfill. Great video.

[@jiujitsu2000]

+Todd Relford thank you for sharing the info! do you have a video showing how you do it? I'm interested.

[@frostyinwi]

+jiujitsu2000 I have always thought about a video, but never seem to get one made. I watch videos

[@frostyinwi]

+jiujitsu2000 I watch videos to see if I can learn any new "tricks". Be safe, save money and reduce waste.

[@MegaTraker]

could you do the same with torch propane bottles?? thanks

[@mechantics]

Not that I'd rely on this, but someone stated in another comment that it is not advisable. That being said, I know a guy who does in fact refill the blue Bernz-o-Matic tanks. I'd be interested in knowing why they'd be any different. On a side note, I recently picked up a bunch of torch cylinders, about half of them the yellow MAPP type....one of which is shaped exactly like the coleman tanks. I'll try to get info off of that to see what its purpose was/is.

[@semco72057]

Thanks for sharing the information on how to refill the propane bottles and I have plenty of them around my home empty and is planning on refilling some of them since I can't take the empties to the dump, or recycling center until the bottles have been cut in half. I have the valve you showed also and got it for that purpose.