How to remove a seized fan blade from outdoor AC motor 1

[@dustintravis8791]

I owe you some beer, my motor seized up at home and I couldn't get the blade assembly off of the old motor's shaft since it was so rusted. I even tied some rope around it and used all of my weight and it wouldn't budge. I got a sacrificial bit set from Walmart for $15 and was finally able to get it separated so that I could reuse the old blades which were like $75 and wouldn't be here for a while. AC's back up and running which is good timing because it's starting to get into the 80s now and soon the Florida heat will be in full force. Thanks again!

[@inglbrute]

Good tip. You probably already know this too, but I've had great success by putting my crescent wrench on the exposed shaft under the fan (if there is any) and holding it while i spin the fan free. I have had to cut the shaft and pop it out once or twice.

[@kurtzimmerman1637]

I have a puller I bought 20+ years ago that gets 99% of them off. The other 1% get thrown away. 🔧

[@Garth2011]

As long as the fan blade hub doesn't flex over...yes.

[@coreyw1337]

I always keep a puller (UP-1) on my truck for those stuck blades. Always nice to know another way just in case.

[@MrCmannino75]

That is a bad ass van with sides that open. Haven't seen that before

[@danjohn5256]

Worked perfectly, thank you! I tried letting it set with WD40, crescent wrench, put some heat on it, etc. There was just too much rust. Had it removed in 2 minutes with some junk bits. Thanks again!

[@TheWoodman064]

I appreciate your showing your method. Pulling fan blades has always been a challenge and at times even with a puller though most still works! I will try your way next time!

[@TheTheomax]

Thank you for showing a different method for the blade removal.

[@soulfultenor]

why did you drill the shaft ?? if it's not terribly rusted or corroded, I loosen the set screw and use an adjustable wrench underneath the hub and spin the blade........That unit is a York, made for Coleman, Evcon and Frasier Johnson.

[@jerrywarden7844]

I know this is a couple of years old, I did enjoy it. I oiled the hub,polished shaft, oiled many times. Finally thought of useing 3/8 adapter on a hammer drill and I was able to turn fan on shaft and slide it off.

[@Rodzilla408]

Ted, Nice tip on the drill bit method. I'm going to use that next time I come across the same situation

[@nsudatta-roy8154]

An additional tip: after making a pilot hole (approx 1/4" bit) use an air chisel with appropriate bit. I have had 100% success and no fan damage.

[@Pyridox]

Neat trick, thanks it's good to have another method. Removing the fan blades from the motor shafts can be a real bugger sometimes.

[@Garth2011]

An air hammer type of hand tool works really well. Unknown if they make them in cordless but sometimes a hammer drill will also work them loose.

[@FireandFrostHVAC]

Cool old school fan blade trick! Despite any criticisms that you may have received in the comments, I think this is another piece of knowledge that I might choose to use in the future and that can get me out of a bind, so thank you Ted. Let me share one of my old school tricks with you then? I carry a set of 2 mechanics tie rod end pickle forks in the truck, the heads of the pickle forks are aggressively tapered, so two put together 180 degrees around one shaft can be slowly “wedged” together by lightly tapping each alternately with a light hammer, so they jamb together and slowly wedge the blade off of the shaft. Good quality lubricant (I prefer lard for this application, or alternately Dexron automatic transmission fluid mixed 50%/50% with Acetone, the latter of course being significantly more flammable than the former, lard) is necessary to avoid galling the blade bore. Have you ever tried this trick, Ted? Thanks for your efforts putting these videos together! 😁

[@RG_sssSMOKING]

good info thanks for sharing.

[@turnerbrewer7188]

Thank you! I just replaced the motor on my AC fan blades were seized this video. Save me a lot of frustration.

[@Heavy_metal_rulez]

I have never had good luck with getting the power to turn back on with that type of disconnect box. They always seem to fail after a couple of times being turned on and off. The Kiss Army ROCKS!

[@YodaPala]

Nice job revitalizing that ol York beast

[@LukasEragon]

Thank you sir. That solved my trouble! Same exact AC and seized fan blades. 👍

[@patmurphy2472]

Should try the cobalt coated bits. Work great.

[@Raul_Azpeitia]

Great your technique saved me, I tried with the puller, hammer and chisel without results ... the puller and wd40 is not everything, sometimes they do not work

[@gregomyeggo4529]

Thanks for the tip that's a good thing to know on a Saturday night....

[@diyintrovert961]

I was having trouble trying to remove a GE box fan propeller from a new motor which I decided not to use. I just got through trying your method & finally just got the propeller off the motor.

[@dwiganstube]

Doesn't work for me. I don't have a puller so I thought I would try this and nothing. You left out the part where you "tapped" it to get it off so I have been beating it in every spot I can find except the blades themselves and it won't budge. I will have to wait another 3 or 4 days and order a new fan.

[@brianchadwick9405]

That is interesting. My motor puller has only failed a couple of times. This is an option for that. Not my first choice. Thanks for sharing.

[@joeyysossa4144]

Thanks for showing us how you removed the fan blades..

[@SoutheastHVAC]

I’ve never tried that method. I’ve always had good luck with a puller

[@throttlebottle5906]

I;ve had more than one "sleeve" bearing motor wear the oilite down enough the rotor started to drag inside, they;d spin free by hand but would jump sideways and lock or heat and lock when powered up..... first I seen that was late 90's ;)

[@throttlebottle5906]

happened to some ball bearing motors also, when the balls and bridging is so worn/gone they move around into a bunch and the rotor goes off center...

[@josephprincefanclub]

I was taught at Polish tractor factory (Long's) to always soak drill bit with stinkyD 40 at start, then every 15-20 seconds of drilling to increase cut life of bit alot, or use spit if out of spray

[@Garth2011]

Good fix and a fair fix. Thats all they needed, simple, fair priced and back in action they are.

[@MikeBarbarossa]

cut the shaft and drive it out with a punch using a piece of 1/2" pipe to support the hub. Never fails, and no expensive bits

[@kangaroogod]

Awesome tip, thanks for sharing

[@mikestevenson1819]

I would have squirt some of your penetrating oil in the small drill hole then use the larger bit. Cutting oil. Great tip !

[@yhird]

Great video. Thank you for the great tip.

[@ned4sed]

Great idea! You are the Man! Thanks for posting

[@hozerhvac4406]

Very cool, never seen it done like that. Ted gave it the ol Ted Gundy mommma

[@twopumpsandimdone309]

Cory Desormeaux Steve Lav would approve this message

[@doddgarger6806]

Little cutting oil and the bits would last a lot longer

[@corywade4702]

Great video! Nice trick keep me coming Dewalt bits are trash

[@jonhvac]

Good trick there Uncle.

[@stevebennett1563]

That is the trick I’ll use next time thanks Ted

[@jimmysegovia2688]

You are a genius man!!!!...

[@More350Power]

Thats a heck of a location for a disconnect.... Ive never seen a blade removed like that..... seems to eliminate a lot of struggle.

[@Annihilate-xq7hi]

Favorite meter of all time..sucks Fieldpiece discontinued them lol Good video #sc77

[@DaveVanWest]

I do a similar thing, small pilot hole then a brass punch I get at Harbor Freight to tap the shaft out of the hub. Sometimes, no pilot hole just tap with a brass punch. Brass punch cheaper than drill bit and can be used more than a couple of times.

[@andrewshort3004]

Same here I also have a large brass rod with a hole in the middle to knock shaft down

[@charmedlife6933]

Thanks, Doc!

[@orlandorizzo5780]

@3:33 My experience is #1 If its old use Acetylene #2 Use Knocker Loose #3 Use a puller #4 Now i will use a drill bit :) GO ARMY LOL

[@throttlebottle5906]

torch the fork out of the hub, large tip and fast heat to glow, it will likely fall off....

[@patricksullivan6478]

Nice! Keep up the Good Job 👌!

[@lordkyle9388]

Genius alternative to using a puller if you didn't have one on hand like myself!

[@TedCookHVAC]

My way is faster 😎

[@sknight0391]

The Gene Simmons method of fan removal 🤟

[@tommyt5815]

I wish I knew that trick 3 pullers ago . They r expensive 😀

[@DustinDoesStuff]

If you have an oxy/acetylene torch, heat up the shaft red hot and then quench it with water. the thermal shock breaks it free everytime.

[@Eddy63]

Ted you got 10k subscribers and couldn't find a helper ... Also don't mention you were in the Kiss army anymore ... Lol ... Good vid ...

[@drewdude444]

You left it better than you found it anyways good video Ted

[@rud8051]

should you cut the excess shaft off?

[@scrambler350]

Good trick to keep in the back of my mind. Aerokroil and an aluminium rod usually do the trick.

[@MrToomin91]

Why not use the fan puller? It's easier and not as messy...

[@erichughes16]

What about a motor puller. Much quicker. I’m a Ace fan.

[@awizzle727]

Why not just use a hub puller and an impact? Takes like 5 min

[@phoenixhvac-r828]

Never hit that shaft with a hammer, mushroom it every time, i use a puller that has never failed me, though that is a nice tip.

[@Bereft777]

Sharpening those bits is a piece of cake. I have that red milcrapee and why are those bits sooo short?

[@doddgarger6806]

Air chisel if you have air or a plug in or cordless sds tool can do it

[@austinroberson8]

Good info, but it literally takes 15 seconds to sharpen a drill bit with a bench grinder. The jig takes maybe 5 minutes to make.

[@airmechanical7163]

Nice work Mr.Ted

[@tombeilman5579]

What’s that cast iron sewer pipe doing on the outside of the wall

[@jhhvacplumbing1944]

Nice trick , thanks Ted

[@BustedWalletGarage]

Lot of work to reuse an old unbalanced fan prop

[@toyota38]

Peter, Paul, Ace & Gene!

[@nickvanhorn681]

This seems far too labor intensive of a way to remove a motor. I have a puller for this and that seems to be away simpler way of dealing with it

[@TedCookHVAC]

New blade will usually force the customer to wait another day or even more. Pullers sometimes just squeeze the hub to the shaft even tighter and can distort the blade causing imbalance. I have several pullers but rarely use them... my way is much faster to boot.

[@Garth2011]

@@TedCookHVAC Some just do not forecast what a job really needs to get 'er dun today.

[@SeanBaker]

You clearly need a vacation to have quickly forgotten that you removed the disconnect cover, and it fell to the ground. 🤣 Good work regardless as usual.

[@tommyt5815]

Sean Baker he was talking bout the inner cover for them wires I think

[@SuperJeremi10]

He wasnt talking about that cover there is supposed to be another cover that goes on top of the breaker to cover the wires.

[@douglasprobst7725]

That number on the motor that started with 024 is a York number.

[@danielshoop4928]

Awesome, never tried the drill bit method. I typically use a brass punch have you tried that before?

[@donnierobertson3088]

Second time watching 7/17/2020

[@c.rutherford]

Spent a whole night soaking blade pin in PB blaster, banging and tapping with hammer, trying to twist, etc. to no avail, the thing is rusted on the motor solid. Let it soak overnight and still no good. That's when I noticed the motor blade was no longer seized, and turning freely. Put it back together and plugged in, and the old motor is now humming away, running fine, with its rust-welded fan. Must have knocked some rust or buildup out of the motor. Well, whose looking a gift horse in the mouth. Works for me....

[@tserevenad]

DIY Alert: You noted that a free-wheeling motor that locks when powered everyone knows what that means. Well I have that symptom, I measured the winding resistance and checked for shorts and all good. cap and contacter good and 240 to fan. fan seizes when powered (freewheels easy when not powered). The only thing I can find and rarely read on the Google machine is wobbling bearing (lateral movement) can lead to the armature pulling into the windings and seizing when energized; sound plausible? I am going to disassemble the motor today to see if possible to replace the bearings (budget driven).

[@TedCookHVAC]

Buy a motor.

[@tserevenad]

@@TedCookHVAC thank you very much for your response. I really enjoy your videos and have watched many. I ordered a new motor. Thanks much.

[@Liberty309]

Can I use a motor with a longer shaft?

[@edwarddoleo3567]

Yes u can

[@chunkyfunkymonkey28]

wow, I have never seen the side of an Express van open like that. custom?

[@kingofslotsmillion3263]

What about the key way? Mine is locked up

[@motivationspeaker6567]

Hello sir I’m Hvac techncian I have 4 years experience

[@donnierobertson3088]

Ok job

[@actechformallyyomama746]

Why not buy a puller and do it the correct way.

[@destainn]

sometimes the puller wont even pull it off but I wouldnt waste my time doing this just get a new blade.

[@TedCookHVAC]

New blade will usually force the customer to wait another day or even more. Pullers sometimes just squeeze the hub to the shaft even tighter and can distort the blade causing imbalance. I have several pullers but rarely use them... my way is much faster to boot.

[@Milerhighlife2011]

I will always use a crescent wrench oil and sandpaper if I have to once I get the shaft a little bit through the blade hub I'll use a bit and a hammer to knock it the rest of the way through most of the time they just come on sandpaper oil and crescent wrench, I done never done anything else to pull a blade off never

[@RG_sssSMOKING]

@@TedCookHVAC well said Ted. Thanks for sharing. You can't get this info from a book.

[@andrewshort3004]

@@Milerhighlife2011 get u a brass bar works great

[@bruce8448]

Damn I dont wanna have to drill through the center shaft of the fan lol

[@LuisHernandez-xx4jr]

Why didn't show how did you remove it ?

[@gordonpotts753]

I like the drill tip. I use a brass rod slightly smaller than the I'd of the hub and pound the shit outta it.

[@MikeSmith-og5mg]

Nice

[@jpp9876]

I swear I am the only one who remembers the drilling instructions in 8th grade shop class. Drill with a very slow rpm and use oil. May get a little more life out of the drill bits.

[@jaybrooks1098]

Air hammer.. shake it loose or heat it up.

[@ishalljr]

No motor puller?

[@TedCookHVAC]

Pullers sometimes just squeeze the hub to the shaft even tighter and can distort the blade causing imbalance. I have several pullers but rarely use them... my way is much faster to boot.

[@ishalljr]

@@TedCookHVAC understood. It's a matter of preference

[@mikecummings2188]

Try a "BoltBuster"

[@muniznick]

Waiting for some super tech “Fan is running backwards”

[@throttlebottle5906]

yo dat dere fan is runnin bass ackwards!

[@jeffreymurdock8366]

Milwaukee and ryobi are owned by the same company. They are even made in the same factory.

[@throttlebottle5906]

yells "TORCH TORCH TORCH TORCH"

[@TedCookHVAC]

Warp Warp Warp !!!

[@throttlebottle5906]

I suppose if you cook the flat arm to blade area lol

[@techfive7202]

Makes my blood boil when people go flipping switches when your trying to work on their ac.

[@tedbell4416]

2:57 I thought a bug ran down my screen

[@Mr572u]

Tri-pod and a drift/punch.

[@blueribb99]

Ain't no Taj Mahal mama

[@mikereynolds6118]

Old York

[@FlyEaglesFly19111]

With the looks of those rivets I would have just replace the whole thing.Why waste the time to salvage the fan blade. Replace with new. That disconnect is an abomination.. that's safe!! That motor was replaced before...and nobody is checking as to why that unit needs a second replacement? Glad it's not my house!

[@JodBronson]

Depend on the Customer. Some, when you tell them that the "entire" motor needs replacement, they yell at you. Most People doesn't know that these Motors will burn out through time and it's NOT worth saving. Brand New one would prevent Service Man coming back for a while. But like I said... They don't know and they don't care!

[@utubedestroysmytime]

Step 1 charge em them for new blades ha I don’t mess with blades after 2 years of install always a pain in the ass . At least in the commercial/industrial field customers usually don’t gripe over another $120

[@TheWoodman064]

Fan blades....yuck!

[@skimask3]

Answer: I don't!