How to Remove a Stuck Moen Shower Cartridge 1200 /1225 /1222

So you have a stuck moen cartridge? In this video we show you How to Remove a Stuck Moen 1200/2500 Shower Cartridge. A stuck shower cartridge is a real bummer. No more stuck cartridge in faucet syndrome for you after this! Once in a while you get a stuck moen shower cartridge that just won't budge, and this one broke 2 Moen cartridge removal tools, until we went old school on it with a tap and die kit to complete this moen 1200 shower cartridge replacement. This should work on a stuck moen 1225 cartridge, and many other brands as well, like a Delta shower cartridge or a Kohler shower cartridge.
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Stuck moen faucet cartridge removal procedure:
By now you have tried in vain to use the Moen shower cartridge removal tool and you have broken the inside of the Moen cartridge leaving the shell of the shower cartridge still lodged inside the shower valve housing. As you begin your Moen shower cartridge replacement
you will need a tap and tie kit with a 1/2" tap to dig the 1/2" threads into the core of the old
Moen shower valve cartridge.
Beware that for this moen 1200 shower cartridge replacement project, not all tap and die kits go up to a 1/2" sized width, so make sure you get a kit with one or you'll never get the bolt to thread inside the stuck cartridge in moen faucet. If you have a Delta shower cartridge, this trick might also work to loosen that stuck cartridge in delta faucet housing. Once you have threaded the center core of the stuck moen 1222 cartridge, then you screw the 1/2" bolt into the core, making sure to use those giant washers those play a vital role in pushing against the front face of the shower valve opening to remove stuck cartridges.
How to remove stuck shower faucet cartridge:
Now that the bolt has threaded into the moen shower cartridge, use your wrench to turn clockwise tot he right, and soon your stuck moen 1225 cartridge will be a stuck cartridge no more. As you continue to turn the bolt with the wrench, it will draw the stuck Moen cartridge toward the front of the valve opening. Then you should be able to pull the stuck shower cartridge the rest of the way out with pliers. Kiss that stuck moen shower cartridge goodbye!
How to remove a stuck moen 1225 cartridge
Now you know how to remove stuck shower faucet cartridge. Enjoy your moen 1200 cartridge removal and your moen 1200 shower cartridge replacement.

[@jeffostroff]

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[@mmyshrall]

Your video saved me hundreds of dollars. I was unable to pull the cartridge myself so I reluctantly called a plumber who charged me $200 just to pull it out. Despite having a Moen puller tool, he broke the cartridge and the metal casing was stuck in the pipe. His recommended solution was to cut a hole in the drywall and replace all the pipes for $950. To add insult to injury we had to leave the water off to the rest of the house while the cartridge was out. I picked up a 1/2" tap and eye bolt at Home Depot for under $15 and was able to follow your solution and do it myself. Thanks for being a life saver!

[@A-RonHubbard]

Well, that certainly is a would-be horror story. I tell you, one trade I do not regret taking in high school is Plumbing. If I could choose only one to know - that would be it.

[@zzyzxx13]

@@A-RonHubbard There are certain spects of plumbing I wouldn't want to do on a daily basis (e.g. going under houses, working in tight spaces under kitchen sinks, etc), but the knowledge to do things myself pays off every time.

[@MrWadim94]

This little kzbin.infoUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

[@solarblue4u]

Jeff - you are a generous and brilliant man to release this secret on removing a stuck Moen cartridge. My neighbor paid a professional plumber over $300 to replace a shower cartridge. He broke the cartridge, messed around trying to remove it and finally just cut the valve out and soldered caps on the copper water lines leaving my neighbor with a huge and expensive mess to take care of. The plumber told my neighbor he would charge an additional $1500 to replace the valve he removed. My neighbor called me to replace the cartridge in the same type of valve. Of course, that cartridge broke also. Your method extracted it with ease. I was out $10 for the tap tool and a few bucks for a bolt, nuts and washers. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Your video saved my neighbor another $300 plus an additional $1500 the plumber would charge to put in a new valve. His cost - $3600. My cost - $10. I will stick with your brilliant method.

[@jeffostroff]

That sounds like a complete rip off most of these John jobs where they saw during a new vow for you should be $250 plus the cost of the valve which most people buy on their own because they're deciding which shower valve they want

[@tiberiusvasquez9293]

What is that tool that he used to pull out the cartridge ?

[@virginiaw6787]

OMG! The guys at Ace Hardware just shook their heads at me when I asked how to do this. Of course, I'm a lady so they didn't take me seriously. They just encouraged me to call a plumber Thanks a million times for helping me prove that I can do what I can learn!

[@jeffostroff]

So cool!

[@5gun1]

You should shoot them

[@jem408]

Same! I'm a single mom and figured I'd try changing out the cartridge myself. Everything went great until a piece broke off. THANK YOU soooo much for making making this video! I was panicing bt after following your advice i was able to get that broken piece out! It worked like a charm! Thank you again!!

[@glasshalffull2930]

You go Girls! Lots of things to learn that can save the homeowner money and often do a better job than a stranger.

[@EightiesTV]

If they were plumbers, they would quit their job at Ace hardware and make 10 times as much.

[@johnboylan2541]

Jeff - The comment I made below was prior to following your advise. Well, I followed your advise and my broken cartridge came out EXACTLY like your video! I used a piece of 1/2" of threaded rod for my "puller" with 3/4" washers. I placed a 1/2" washer on my puller first against the turning nut then piled on the 3/4" washers. I didn't have a Tap & Die Set so this DIY gave me a reason to get one. When I ran the tap in, I went as far in as I could so I would have enough meat for the threaded rod to hold to. As you know having worked with brass, SLOW is the BEST speed for this extaction. When I felt the puller loosen up, I tugged it and the cartridge came right out! It was so SIMPLE! I didn't use any "plumbers language" AT ALL. LOL!!! Of note, I had to moved the washers around keep them in alignment but overall was not a problem. If I were to do this more often, as you probably do, I would use a 3/4" steel bushing (the length of the washer stack) , a 1/2" washer, and 3/4" washer. Conclusion: I was quoted $375 by a plumbing company to do this repair, which I started but ran in this problem. The cost of the T&D kit was around $65. I had the piece of threaded rod so all I needed was a box of washers. So with around $75 into it, I saved myself $300 by doing it myself!!!!! Thanks again for sharing your technique. I is INVALUABLE! - John

[@bordenf]

I just followed your instructions and removed my stuck cartridge. 1/2" tap, 1/2" bolt. Worked like a charm! Saved me a bundle of money!

[@derekgoodman9312]

You are the man! I had 4 hardware store guys tell me I was SOL and would have to buy a whole new system and probably hire someone to install. For a $15 investment in a tap & die set, and about 15 minutes of my time and I’m all set. Thanks so much. This is the only video I could find that could solve my problem.

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome Derek, saved another one! Where did you buy the tap and die kit?

[@derekgoodman9312]

jeffostroff Northern Tool in WI

[@CalebRichardson]

Guys at Ace Hardware looked at me with so much pity when I explained my plan (I went in to buy the 1/2" bolt). I want to go back and tell them it worked! 😂

[@chrisdelynn8423]

Jeff, I am so glad I found this video !! I tried for hours to remove a cartridge that was over 35 years old with tools specifically made to remove it including a torch. It came out in one piece using your method !! It was at my 92 year old mothers house. I had to shut her water off for a day because it was leaking so bad. Thanks Buddy !

[@jeffostroff]

You're welcome Chris, glad to hear you were successful!

[@blt981]

@@jeffostroffmy moen says Dialcet does that have a cartridge. Looks kinda narrow. Don’t know model numberHouse built calif Bay Area built 1960s

[@SteveNewman-s4e]

Thank you very much for taking the time to share this solution! I just used this truck to save a friend $850 and get this water turned back on, since there are no shutoff valves except at the street, and now you have to call the water utility for them to turn it on and off remotely. One thing I changed a little... I used the outside housing of my Moen cartrige removal tool (the large outside part with the internal threads) againt the valve body to give the cartridge clearance to come all the way out, instead of using a box end wrench or something else. The tool is made exactly the right size to sit against the edge of the valve body and allow space for the cartridge to exit the housing, so it worked perfectly. Hope this helps someone!

[@james2191]

This video literally saved the day. I had the replacement part, but the original was stuck good. Heat didn’t help, but this video was exactly what I needed. Installation of the replacement complete, thanks to you! 🙌

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it helped

[@vampyrechan6643]

Good looking out man, great instructions and pointers. Two inexperienced gals with no money for a plumber took a leap of faith and got the job done! Major props ☺️

[@jeffostroff]

Right on way to go!

[@CFKoder]

You saved me so much time and effort with this video! I was about to start cutting pipes and reframing for a new shower, but then I saw your video and thought this was a brilliant idea. Followed your advice and it worked first try, pulling out the whole cartridge! You saved me so much time, energy, and money... so please accept my huge Thank You! (liked and subscribed!)

[@jeffostroff]

You are welcome Eric!

[@kstory5309]

Thank you so much for this video! Absolutely life saving! Our cartridge was probably 30 years old and seized to the valve, only the core came out. Used this method and the cartridge housing came free almost instantly.

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it helped!

[@edhendershot2117]

I was despondent when I pulled out my cartridge when only the center came out. This video and $12 dollars at Lowes saved me. Thank you so much for such a great solution!

[@amandatimmerman6526]

Thank you SOOO much for this video! My husband got in this exact situation and this worked like a charm on our house from the 70s. He was so defeated until he tried this. Thank you again!

[@JohnBaileyDarke]

Oh my goodness. Wed just about given up on the MOEN 1225 (Brass) valve stuck in after pulling out the inards. Then I did one more Google search on a brass 1225 stuck etc. and your video popped up. Borrowed the 1/2 die from my neighbor, found a long 1/2 inch bolt and a bunch of washer and after serveral tries, it came loose saving up at least $1,000 in plumber fees to cut out the entire valve etc. Many thanks hope your 706K viewers was as lucky as we were.

[@jerrodnelson159]

Just completed the replacement of a shower valve from a 40 year old home. Used the exact same method, needed two wrenches. Thanks for the video.

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it helped way to go Jerrod!

[@brittanybates9775]

This was so incredibly helpful!! My husband and I are not handy in the slightest and we were able to follow this step by step to replace the cartridge. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

[@joegonz3864]

Thank you for the video. You were spot on with the technique and sizes you mentioned. I was not able to extract the sleeve and ended up calling my plumber. He tried everything and after getting two pieces out after a couple hours of numerous techniques we went back to your technique. Only thing different was we put a piece of large pvc over the valve so the washer wedged against the pvc and it finally pulled it out. OMG, plumber said worst one he’s seen in 35 years! Thanks!

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it was helpful!

[@richardholliday2010]

This method worked for me today. Cartridge was likely original from early 80’s. Stem pulled out using Danco tool. Bought a tap and a bolt with some nuts and washers. I used the large nut from the Danco tool as the primary spacer to allow the valve core to easily come out. Thanks for the excellent video and tip.

[@jeffostroff]

Fantastic Richard!

[@Mez861]

JEFF!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I did exactly as you said and used a tap and a 1/2 inch die to get out the broken end, you saved my life today! You Are The Man!

[@jeffostroff]

way to go Paul I'm glad to hear it worked out for you

[@johnwakamatsu3391]

I used you method except I had to cut off the handle and thread it with a 7/16 20 thread die. I used a stack of washers and was able to remove the cartridge. I thank you for your advice and being a plumber is a very hard job.

[@jeffostroff]

Way to go John!

[@cactusjess]

Unselfish guys like you make guys like me look like geniuses. Thank you for sharing.

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks for watching!

[@bobgutman9691]

I viewed and used this method to remove a stuck cartridge. Spent the $15 to buy the puller and just pulled the core out. Had to use the tap and die set. Mine gave me grief all the way out. I used a bolt with many washers to act as a puller. Important to CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN all the brass shavings from the cut threads. I briefly opened the water on both sides, just to purge out the shavings. Also remove the shower head to purge all the black water out of the system. (Old black rubber seals) Otherwise will load up and plug your shower head. I used 1/2" tap with 13 pitch (Coarse Thread) Good luck!

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome glad to help another one!

[@allanmain5666]

So I did your trick, and it worked perfectly. It was also fun. Saved me a trip back to Lowes as I had everything here to make it happen. The valve works so much better now. Thank you.

[@jeffostroff]

Nice work!

[@NateM-h6f]

THANK YOU for this video, saved the day, had a call from an AirBnB that I was set to paint that they needed the shower valve changed out before the next renter was scheduled but did not have the time to cut Drywall and install a new valve. Figured on pulling the old one and installing new cartridge. However when used the Moen removal tool only the inner shaft came out! Now I was stuck with water shut off and the clock ticking....so I tried using your method albiet with a 12mmx1.75 tap and bolt....worked like charm. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! PS: i already had the metric tap set and didn't have the money to buy an SAE set so gave it a shot, 12mm works just as well.

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

[@Doc832]

Well I used two different methods I used to screw into the end of the cartridge first which pulled the inner part out. Then I used your method to tap and put a piece of half inch stock in there actually used a 5-in half 13-bolt. Was very successful at removing the cartridge casing. It was harder to clean everything out than it was to remove the cartridge with the right setup. Thanks for your video

[@jeffostroff]

Glad to help Bob!

[@plumbdev3664]

Interesting to see how others get them out. I use a 1/2” reverse thread easy out. No extra tools or jig needed. Either way same result, at the end of the day the customer is happy!

[@maxfliart]

Brilliant. Thx!! Worked like a charm, after removing a 20 yr old outer cartridge. I guess that's why I'm an artist and not a plumber.

[@teh60]

I have a moen puller that works real well but the cartridge you had looked pretty bad. I don’t know if the moen puller would touch that. I like the way you fabricated a puller for that. Way to go Jeff.

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks! My friend broke 2 Moen tools before calling today to come help with this.

[@radradrad]

Thank you very much for this video. I had the exact problem that you detailed, I used your method and it completely worked out. The cartridge did break off in the pipe, and I used a tap along with a bolt, nuts, and washers to lever it out. Worked wonderfully. Thankfully my cartridge didn’t break in two as I was pulling it out with this method (like your’s did). One issue I did have is that now the hot water is on the wrong side. Not exactly sure how to fix that, but I’m very glad to have fixed the bad faucet.

[@jeffostroff]

Usually you rotate the cartridge and this will fix it. Check install manual on new cartridge they usually talk about it

[@radradrad]

@@jeffostroff actually, I figured it out. You don’t have to rotate the whole cartridge. You also don’t have to turn off the water supply. All I did was take off the knob and rotate the stem 180° without taking it out the retaining pin or anything else. Worked wonderfully. Took less than five minutes.

[@kway745]

Man, you’re a lifesaver! Thought I was in for a world of hurt when this thing was sitting in there laughing at me. Had a 1/2” allthread puller setup ready to go but the sleeve ended up twisting right out when the tap got a good bite. Better to be lucky than good!

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome, now you had the last laugh!

[@armstjba1]

Oh, and thanks for the comment about leaving the new cartridge open when you install it so as to not have compressed air. I didn't read that until after I had a very difficult time getting the new cartridge in, probably because of compressed air.

[@jeffostroff]

Yes these are tricky

[@darensefcik9074]

Thank You ! I just needed to see someone else do this to confirm before I started drilling. I used a 1/4-20 bolt/nuts and an 11/16 socket for the "cup" to draw the cartridge into, worked perfect, was about to cut out the wall to replace the whole thing. THIS SAVED ME!

[@ChrisMartinLive]

Thank you! Had the exact situation you described and thought I was pretty stuck. Your solution worked perfectly, and our shower is back up and running.

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome Chris, glad to help out!

[@shock1584]

THANK YOU! I was getting ready to just replace the whole socket and pipes. Just happened to have a 1/2-13 tap set from another project and had the old cartridge out in no time!

[@jeffostroff]

Way to go!

[@jigimujigi]

Home depot gave me moen cartridge 1222 free as a complimentary service from Moen. The plastic little tool came with the cartridge did the job well to remove the stuck cartridge. Thanks

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome! Sometimes, but rarely you get lucky, but it's usually the Moen's that get stuck, because people forget to put silicone grease on the outside before inserting the cartridge into the wall.

[@jigimujigi]

@@jeffostroff well I forgot it too :)

[@gamicweevil]

This is amazing. This happened to me with my shower at work, and I was able to repair it myself instead of having to hire a plumber.

[@jeffostroff]

good job Bill!

[@patrickcheney9727]

Would like to buy you a beer, my friend. Today is NYD and it would have cost a small fortune for a plumber. This technique worked beautifully for me. Thank you.❤

[@jeffostroff]

Glad to hear it worked out for you Patrick!

[@WolfmansBrother]

My cartridge cracked in half after pipes froze. I was able to pull pieces out with needle nose pliers and a paint key hooked into one of the valve holes. Thanks for sharing this method!

[@michaelzatlukal1473]

This method worked exactly as you showed! Thank you!

[@gavin5020]

Saved my butt on the die size and I was able to get the plastic out. Thank you!

[@jeffostroff]

Way to go Gavin!

[@477racing]

Awesome tip, thank you. Worked like a charm for me. Bought a 4 inch long 1/2 in carriage bolt so I had lots of thread to work with, two nuts so I could tighten them against each other and screw it in, and then the pulling method as shown.

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome glad to hear it worked out so easily for you

[@pkicng210]

You have the expertise and th patience. If it were me, I would cut out part of the tiles until I can access to the entire valve, saw off the tubing heat any excess solder and you know the rest. I didn't know about those Moen removal tool. Thanks and sa for me double likes.

[@soniavassallo2558]

Thank you for this video. My house was built in the 80's. My hallway bath started leaking from the spout. I have an old cartridge that has broken off inside the casing (if that is what it is called). My son's friend who tried to help me with it says it is rusted in there and I need to call a plumber to get it out. That will cost a lot so I will try your recommendation to get the rest of the casing out. Thank you so much. So many videos make it look easy to change cartilages but don't show the problems that you my have with the ones that break and stick in the back of where the cartridge starts and sticks. Thank you so much for your video!

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

[@ccasagram]

After pulling for 4 hours, we finally tried a silicone lubricant and it came right out The rubber disintegration causes it to get stuck. Best thing to do going forward, replace cartridge every 5-10 years. My 1 hour job took a full day!

[@jeffostroff]

When you insert a new cartridge it's so important to add that silicone grease to all of the black O rings which will also keep it from getting stuck in there

[@ziggypas8247]

Thank You Brother !!! Followed instructions, perfect tutorial , worked amazing , after 40 yrs came out !

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it helped, way to go Ziggy

[@luist114]

I had the same situation shown in this video, a Moen 1200 stuck and in the middle of this pandemic, calling a plumber was not an option. I ordered online a die and tap set and perform the job step by step like in the video. Thanks God, it worked out perfectly. Thanks and keep these type of videos coming. I subscribed so I can be ready when the next challenge comes.

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome Luis, glad the video worked for you

[@mikeleone7702]

Been a service plumber for years and have used my tap for years put l” steel dowel in first then thread tap in it will push against down and steel cartridge will push out like your way too

[@crashlanding3895]

Thank you very much for posting this! Worked like a charm and I even ended up with a long overdue tap and die set. Cheers! 🍻

[@jeffostroff]

Way to go Crash landing, glad it worked for you

[@JMooX2]

Someone get this crew a gold metal. This was a huge help. Thank you.

[@uhmmchicken]

I thought you looked and sounded familiar. I watched some of your submarine videos over 6 months ago, and then I had this exact problem today.

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome, glad to help!

[@uhmmchicken]

@@jeffostroff Yup, got the thread tap in yesterday and everything worked perfectly. My cartridge wouldn't wiggle out until I pulled it out an entire inch so I had to use my giant monkey wrench between the washers and the pipe to give the cartridge space to come out enough. Thanks for the video.

[@berniemueller2030]

Stuck morning cartridge, worked like a charm thank you

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it helped

[@zone47]

Great tips! I think what I'll do if I can remember is take the darn thing out after about 5 years and grease it up again. It should only take about 5 minutes... that way when it starts leaking in another 5 years it will pop right out.

[@candiuwu165]

Wonderful lesson. It helped me tremendously and that is a trick I will not soon forget. Thank You.

[@Midskier]

had the same problem if not worse - your tap and puller tip worked aces !! thanks again!

[@cavecookie1]

I was a maintenance tech at a motel...we had 63 rooms, all with those hideous Moen valves. I replaced many of these. I had a system that worked for me, if you manage to not pull all the inner parts out. I used vice grips, a claw hammer for a lever, and a block behind the hammer so I didn't damage the shower stall. with some gentle twisting and wiggling and prying, I could always coax those bad boys out with a minimum of trouble.

[@Norm475]

I replaced a cartridge in my Wisconsin home that gets water from Lake Michigan, the cartridge was at least 20 years old. When I removed the clip that hold the cartridge in, the cartridge blew right out, since I forgot to shut the water off. I have another home in Naples, Fl. That water is very corrosive. I replaced the first cartridge when I purchased the home and then I replaced that cartridge about five years later. Most were stuck and it took me several hours to remove them. Really a pain.

[@matthewmcdonald9492]

Worked for me today! Thanks for this video. Huge help!

[@ronatkinson3680]

Want to thank you. Took your advice and worked like a charm. Thank you again.

[@jeffostroff]

Great to hear!

[@cmackscott761]

Extremely helpful video. I dread doing this but I have to replace a 1225 cartridge. It could be easy because our water is relatively soft. It's good to know the tiers of trouble that can and does happen.

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it helped

[@travisdarling5199]

Thank you. thought I was screwed when the core came out of the valve. Grabbed a tap and a 1/2' bolt and it came right out.

[@jeffostroff]

Way to go Travis!

[@fat_head_Carl]

I wrestled with one of those before. Like the threading trick

[@jeffostroff]

Yes Carl, this thread tapping trick has never failed me, woks every time like a charm. Thanks for watching.

[@hernandocastro7730]

Very informative. Thanks for sharing.

[@lorrieglavine5734]

I just replaced one yesterday. The metal part ended up coming out, but the plastic casing stayed in. I ended up gently tapping a screwdriver to break off pieces of plastic one by one. It took HOURS, but I finally got it all out. Every home improvement I do ends up going sideways on me lol

[@jeffostroff]

I hate those types of jobs!

[@jacobjones5707]

I didn't have a tap and die set. Only one at the home improvement store was $90 and don't have the right size. Instead I found a internal pipe wrench set. The 3/4 inch size was just a hair too big to fit inside the stuck cartridge, but I used a 3/4 drill bit to widen and then the internal wrench to remove. This worked fine because it was a plastic cartridge and the drill bit easily shaved off enough plastic.

[@jeffostroff]

Good adapting Jacob! Harbor Freight has decent tap and die kits cheap, that is where I got mine

[@haroldstroud55]

When installing the new cartridge, do it with the stem in the open position (out), otherwise you have to compress the air trapped in the valve. That makes it difficult get the new cartridge fully seated so the clip can be inserted.

[@jeffostroff]

Good idea Harold!

[@ronjonson26]

I have a Moen cartridge tool that works quite well,if the stem comes out the handle of the puller pulls the outer part of the cartridge

[@davidbuhr7939]

Mine was installed 25 years ago (1997). Started with Trying to pull it out, No way. Prying it out with vice grip on end as leverage point and large pry bar and 2x4 against shower wall, nope. Tried the tool that tries to rotate it, nope. After an hour the inner piece came out leaving the plastic sleeve stuck inside the control valve, tried to tap it and use bolt to extract but plastic just kept breaking and bolt would continue to strip out (tried plumbers tape on threads as well). Worked on it with needle nose plyers for 45 minutes, nope. Final last ditch effort, before calling plumber to have new control value installed which of course would have been cutting through the closet wall, got my 1/2" drill bit and power drill (corded!)... .yikes! Yep just went for it, and to my amazement the valve body grabbed onto that drill bit with shocking force and came right out stuck to it, then used pliers to pull out remaining rubber seals. I generally would not suggest this as drill bits and copper pipe do not mix well but luck was on my side. Only thing I did not try was heating it up with a heat gun which I have read can work well, will try this next time before drill!

[@jeffostroff]

Love it David, you went old school on it!

[@boatman222345]

Great video, just wish I'd seen it a few months ago. I had this stuck Moen shower valve problem last spring when my plumber attempted to replace the valve. It took him more than 2 hours to get the darned thing out and then he had a really hard time getting the new assembly to go back in. I would never again use this product from Moen as it is simply a very poorly designed product!

[@Peter-pv8xx]

I have to try this on my friends shower, it's 50 years old, i got the inner bit out but of course the rest is left inside, I'm a mechanic and whenever something is stuck you bring out the torch but i was afraid to do it inside the wall, It's been three years good thing she has another bathroom with a shower, i have to replace it on that one too, it's hard to pull out push in and turn, hopefully it will come out without a problem, i even thought of using a slide hammer somehow.

[@frankmontez6853]

Yeah just finished it with big escutcheon and handle. Also came with shower 🚿. Put that in too. Tenants lost the handle and escutcheon after trying to fix it themselves. I decided not to charge them for it $32. Or chairs of mine they broke. Since they SAID they'd replace restroom sink base cabinet. We'll see..

[@jeffostroff]

All tenants lie, that's why I gave it up years ago and flip foreclosure properties now.

[@GaryYoung-eq1ph]

Finally, 'hard' how 2 do videos solved .!!!! ( are the old ones 1200?)

[@jeffostroff]

YEs the 1200 series was very popular in 1970s and 1980s

[@achbymcc3699]

Very thorough presentation. A job well done. I have this same problem and am afraid to to start. I have seen many videos on this subject with different approaches, my question is does Moen know of this particular problem? are they working on this faulty design?.shame shame shame.

[@jeffostroff]

You can do it!

[@debbies-got-ideas]

@jeffostroff Thanks for this video! The cartridge was literally coming out in little pieces! I don’t have a tap and die and all hardware stores were closed but I managed to MacGyver a large tap screw and some pipe fittings to achieve the same result! I would still be standing in my waterless shower stall cursing if it wasn’t for your brilliant suggestion! Thank you again!!

[@pt4242]

Used to be that Moen would send a small packet of grease with new inserts when you called them ( these are lifetime warranty)... Now the come pre-greased. I purchased a container if light weight silicone grease and extra lube everything. Do NOT use regular plumber's grease on these - it's way too heavy. Don't forget to re-insert the copper "key" once the new cartridge is in place.

[@jerrychrisco6151]

A bolt extractor takes about 2 minutes to do the same thing. We've had 2 with this issue and just used a bolt extractor

[@jeffostroff]

Aren't they like $50? Got a recommendation on the one you used?

[@jerrychrisco6151]

@@jeffostroff we went down to our local auto parts store and fit it to the dimensions of a Moen cartridge. It was less that 10 bucks and we picked the cheap one without issue.

[@Samuraimindset-]

Wow Moen is a total pain the the butt! Thanks for this video! I was feeling really stupid for not being able to get that damned thing out of the wall after it's been in there for only 38 years or so😂.

[@monsterelkguy]

Thanks for this video it really works have use this method many times

[@jeffostroff]

Always welcome

[@T_bone]

Do not forget. Moen cartridges have a clip that has to be removed prior to pulling on the cartridge. It is u shaped and pulls up and usually all the way out. It gets covered with mineral deposits and is usually not even visible under the crust. Wire brush. Pull it out. Use tool.

[@samnavarro6112]

Vinnie knows his $hit!!!, same thing happened to me and because of this method Vinnie shared with us I was able to do it myself. Thanks for the info!!!

[@jeffostroff]

Well actually, we showed Vinnie how to do it, but yes he does know his work well, and now of course he'll be a whiz at this.

[@erogel4171]

sometimes you can just replace the 2 o rings on the inner part that usually pulls out when the outer part is stuck.

[@jimmyhill5738]

I guess that was Moen cartridge I never had that much trouble getting the cartridge out I been a plumber for 35 years but good job

[@bjkjoseph]

If you do a new tile job...you should change the shower body...and buy Delta.

[@jeffostroff]

That is exactly what we do, I've done that twice in recent shower wall jobs.

[@lutherstriker8180]

Ace puller, nope. Moen puller good to pull stem, plastic cartridge broke. Thanks guys.

[@davidpugh6495]

Thank you for posting this fix

[@jeffostroff]

Glad to help Daid!

[@dr.duncanhsu300]

Great video; Thought provoking; Was having stuck cartridge too; Thanks.

[@jeffostroff]

I assume it helped you get the cartridge out successfuly?

[@GratefulSound24]

Great solution, works brilliantly

[@jeffostroff]

Great to hear!

[@bethelelgin4441]

The heat worked, thank you so vey much

[@jeffostroff]

Glad it worked for you Bethel, awesome!

[@mcmxc3794]

Thank god mine came out with a set of pliers. Im pretty sure it was original from when the house was built in 1979.

[@jeffostroff]

Man you are lucky!

[@online9191]

I had mine stuck there too, only the inside metal came out, the plastic tube stayed inside. I used a drill bits and a flat screw driver to destroy the plastic inside, then used a plyer to pull it out. It is bad design from Moen, I think I will never put a moen valve on any new shower anymore. Delta's cartridge is 10 times easier to change.

[@KSMike1]

If you have hard water, the plastic cartridges are less likely to seize up in the valve body.

[@richdfrmn]

Wish I would have seen this a few days ago

[@WINCHANDLE]

Give Jeff the Nobel Prize !!!! Funny how tampon/kotex ads keep popping up while watching this very manly video. !!!? Don't worry, I'm all for women learning how to do stuff like this.

[@fredford5815]

Very impressive. Over my head but thanks

[@jeffostroff]

Pretty easy once you've done it once

[@hernandocastro7730]

Great! Very informative. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@jeffostroff]

you are welcome, glad you liked it!

[@mikedavis3404]

Your amazing. This worked like a charm.

[@JohnMiller-ee9pn]

I wanted to see you put the screws in the face plate looks like new tile should have changed faucet.

[@nicholassexton1548]

Worked!!!! Thank you

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

[@dennisoneal9340]

Or, you could simply use a propane torch with a trigger igniter to mildly heat the brass while pulling on the cartridge. Worked like a charm.

[@jeffostroff]

Yes heat sometimes works too!

[@ScoobyandShaggy5554]

Not for me sadly, we really have a stuck one of course. Went to bed at 3 am after starting this project after work at 7pm. Now up at 5 am to run to lowes to try this, this is my last hope