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@rodneyespinosa74555 жыл бұрын
an old trick a retired garage door taught me was to paint a line on the spring to count how many turns for tension
@l337pwnage4 жыл бұрын
I was a garage door for 20 years. It's a tough job. You have kids bouncing basketballs off you and all kinds of abuse you have to put up with...
@madisonnn7914 жыл бұрын
l337pwnage 💀
@maniaticowww5 жыл бұрын
Yeah!! This is a how not to do video! I’m glad this guy didn’t hurt himself
@gizmo56015 жыл бұрын
Many years ago while living in Houston our garage door became misaligned, wire off track and stuck. Being a Brit I had no experience with these kind of doors so our good friend and neighbor offered to help. No big deal, right. He ratcheted the central spring with screw drivers (since we didn’t have the correct tools) to lessen the tension on the wire while I tried to push it back on the guide wheel to the side. His screw driver slipped and I very nearly lost my thumb. I was very lucky to get away with bruising. One of the stupidest things I ever did. Still makes me shudder. The second screw driver was stuck under huge tension all night, my neighbor probably more shocked than me, understanding how close we came to a serious accident. The professionals came out the next day to fix our mess.
@dennisleblanc79334 жыл бұрын
I like your make shift spring tensioning bars (paint mixers). I'm glad it didn't backfire on you! I replaced my two springs when one broke. I ordered the offical tensioning bars and springs from Ebay. I succeeded and replacing it but only after watching several KZbin videos. It was a little nerve wrecking but a great confidence builder.
@CotyWK5 жыл бұрын
The pros wanted to charge me $800 for two springs and a new handler. I did it for $205 ($75 for the springs & 130 for the opener). Probably the easiest diy I’ve had to do.
@brandonhelms19534 жыл бұрын
@@yokyok23bennett90 Yep, we charge $285 for double torsion springs for parts and labor. In and out in about 30 minutes.
@josephmeunier77193 жыл бұрын
i charge 175 for spring changes.
@smirkinatu5512Ай бұрын
Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video.
@hampyonce2 жыл бұрын
When I was 19 I learned the ins and outs of overhead doors by being responsible for maintaining two 22'x14' chain lift doors. When I started the job, one end of the building or the other was always broken. If both were stuck we were out of commission. In a few months I had them both purring. I knew it was dangerous, and I had an incident or two, but no blood was shed. Great video. Great advice. These things aren't intuitive. Know before you start.
@daddybear70625 жыл бұрын
26yr senior door technician here. 1. Greasing the tracks is like greasing the roads. It wont stop the wheel bearings from squeaking. Grease hinges wheels (rollers), pullies (sheeves) and motor drawbar trolley and torsion springs. 2. A 3 foot long 3/8 round rod cold rolled steal bar cut in half so you have 2x 1.5 bars is the only way to go and only cost $9.00 3. All the squeaking in that door is in the hinges. There are 3 parts to the hinge and they are always grinding. Oil the hell out of all your hinges.
@mostlikelywedoitservices97435 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing with all of us. Much value in your words.
@trustone85405 жыл бұрын
Much easier with the door down... but what ever floats your boat. But this is dangerous right here. I e worked on commercial garage doors for over 8 years. Call a professional dont try this at home. Thanks
@pauldefillippo84905 жыл бұрын
Technician of 15 years here, the video says how to change the spring without getting hurt, but then he uses something that is clearly not a winding bar to wind up that spring. :p
@brandonhartman59505 жыл бұрын
Paul DeFillippo I was cringing at the mud mixers lol. But then again I’ve use long stem rollers before
@pauldefillippo84905 жыл бұрын
@@brandonhartman5950 lol, so have I. I had an old wooden Crawford Door with like zero Headroom, and the spring popped off the cone, so I got the spring back on the cone but I could not wind it with my bars for the life of me. Luckily it was a little 8 by 7, I was able to muscle the door into the open position set the cables gave the spring a couple turns with some long stem rollers, and was lucky as hell the spring didn't bind when I closed it.
@TommyLemery5 жыл бұрын
Great video Handyman!!
@tinosaligan58335 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video man.
@michaellane47625 жыл бұрын
I have a buddy who's dad lost a finger while tightening one of those springs. The spring broke under tension and took his finger clean off!! I don't mess with them.
@kalemercer70535 жыл бұрын
Its all fun and games, till the mud mixers are flying!
@ginkumpow37265 жыл бұрын
or fingers
@joeliwest5 жыл бұрын
I used to do this type a repair back in the day, sometimes on bigger industrial doors. This always gave me a little bit of the willies especially after seeing this repair go bad. Your fortunate that you just got your hand ripped up and nothing permanent, or your teeth knocked out . I think this is a tough job for a DYIer. There are forces that need to be clearly understood before taking something like this on. Even pulley spring balances can be difficult and hopefully people run safety wire through the spring so it can come flying off and reeking havoc. Both of these spring balance systems use a lot force to balance those big heavy doors. I'm not trying to scare anyone off, but this work needs to be done with caution. Like you said, if you can afford it, let someone who knows what their doing take this job on
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@foxvincenzo50272 жыл бұрын
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@RANDALLOLOGY5 жыл бұрын
Workin on garage doors has it's UP's and DOWN"s. Lol
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
Good one.
@edmathis5 жыл бұрын
You think working on garage doors has its ups and downs? I'm an elevator mechanic.
@RANDALLOLOGY5 жыл бұрын
@@edmathis having to work on elevators. Sounds like you got the SHAFT. Lol
@edmathis5 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a good business if you can get in on the ground floor.
@jeffspirdione81353 жыл бұрын
Lol, that was my line, when people would ask me how business was 😂
@dig10352 жыл бұрын
That took balls! Glad mud mixers didn't hurt you! Thumbs up and subscribed!
@gsxr600rafii5 жыл бұрын
You need to tell people to NOT just loosen these bolts. People with 2 springs don't understand how much tension will still be on all of these bolts.
@pauldefillippo84905 жыл бұрын
I've been to a couple people's houses where their arms were in slings because they did that crap. I've told every one of them they're lucky to still be alive.
@l337pwnage4 жыл бұрын
Yup. I know a guy who lost an eye messing with a garage door, and I think he even had safety glasses on. When the cable let loose, it just tore them right off his face.
@Ramone6245 жыл бұрын
I'm all for people learning about garage doors and spring replacements. However, as a garage door technician, I will advise readers to at least properly buy winding bars online if you are replaceing a torsion spring. I have personally seen the aftermath of customer using something not designed for winding (large screwdriver) and he ended up lucky that the screwdriver missed major arteries in his forearm. Also, if you are going to replace a spring, please stand on the OUTSIDE of a spring facing inward so if something were to happen, the throw of the spring will go AWAY from your body/face. If you are unsure as to what "direction" a spring is to be wound, the easy way to check is at the winding cone side. The spring winds in the direction the wire edge is pointing, and it should be pointing "up". Getting this wrong can cause the spring to break or unwind while you are in the process of turning the spring and the Setscrews on the winding cone will spin and become like a sawblade. Dont forget, this is where your hands are during the spring winding process. ( read = loosing fingers) Garage door spring replacement is on of those very low cost of goods, but a professional will charge a few hundred dollars. It may seem like alot, but if you are not as mechanically savy and careful, the injury isn't a cut or a bruise. It's a lost finger or worse. It is not a decision to make lightly. Also a 3/8 8 point socket on a ratchet is the perfect tool for the setscrews handyman ;)
@ericlockridge48975 жыл бұрын
I've got several properties with these same springs. You did fine. Also people, for first timers, wear good gloves. The metal edges can gouge your hands open pretty badly if your not paying attention. Anyway...se ya next time!
@laszlovass73265 жыл бұрын
I had a spring break when door was opening up, it came down hard and fast like a guillotine. I don't walk under the door until it's all the way up anymore! My door us double wide, 16ft, 1 panel extra tall, insulated, windows, and extra supports for each panel, it is HEAVY!
@OnlyOneFever5 жыл бұрын
Good advice. Never really think of that when the dog is bolting under a door that's barely open 2' to go get the paper.
@hadablockers5 жыл бұрын
I’m having a hard time believing this story, and I’ll tell you why..... are you sure you’re not exaggerating just a tad?? 2 reasons, It’s very unlikely that your door, as heavy as you say it is, would only have one spring, wich means it could come down hard and fast, but not like a guillotine. Secondly
@hadablockers5 жыл бұрын
OnlyOneFever answer to your question would be the second spring would keep the door from coming down like a guillotine
@OnlyOneFever5 жыл бұрын
@@hadablockers I've had a spring break on a double wide and even with the one spring left, it still comes down fast enough to kill. Or at least smash an animal or human head. Guillotine is only a metaphor.
@ArdieJ15 жыл бұрын
@hadablockers his story is very believable! I've worked garage doors for over 10 years. If 1 spring breaks on a big residential door like that, the operator can not control that door. You still have 100's of pounds coming down even with one spring still under tension.
@dmack1775 жыл бұрын
Just did these a few weeks ago , using vice grips on the bar keeps the cables from coming off, tedious job
@scottsprowl74844 жыл бұрын
I was installing a 16x16' door and springs I was on my 6 or 8th turn when the spring broke and threw the bars and me down the scaffolding...almost broke some ribs on the way down. I couldn't believe that spring broke...
@jesusdehoyos20385 жыл бұрын
Part of my work involves garage door repair and new installation Raynor garage doors and chamberlain operators there is great money in this 👍
@mitchellpurelife5 жыл бұрын
Hi handy man. Perfect video to remind me how much I don't like touching them! I would hire it out if I could afford it, because of the risk of injury. To answer your question: you are insanely crazy. You work like a maniac. You take on allot of work and do it all solo. So, your insanely good at your trades, a perfectionist in detail, and good at making your videos. Thanks man, your Pro all the way! -.Mitchell
@MrFIXIT1015 жыл бұрын
yep that's one of those things as a handyman I don't do but I give you props
@hotrodhog21705 жыл бұрын
Our garage has 2 single wide doors but the springs run parallel with the upper tracks. 2 springs on each door. One spring broke and shot through the garage/family room wall and across the family room into the china cabinet that held my grandmother's china collection. It was 3 in the morning when it happened! I about died from the shock of the explosion! Those springs have a crazy amount of stored tension!
@MandrewP5 жыл бұрын
What if someone had been in the garage when that happened? Those springs should have a steel cable running through the middle of them so the springs don't go anywhere when they break.
@hotrodhog21705 жыл бұрын
@@MandrewP They do now, but back in the 70's when the house was built, safety wasn't an issue I guess.
@mtadams20093 жыл бұрын
I do pretty much everything around my house as do all of my friends. When one of my springs broke on my garage door I called some of my friends and they all gave me the same advice its not worth fixing because if it goes bad it really goes bad. I paid the 500.00. A man has to know his limitations, risk vs reward.
@lockedin605 жыл бұрын
Handyman i am glad that no blood was shed.......................Today! This looks like it could be a dangerous job. A Big Ouch comes to mind. But if push comes to shove it can be done. But i will not have to deal with this in the future. i do not see a lot of garage doors on yurts or on tool sheds. But glad that you are able to do the job!
@keithupton86ku5 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought Handyman had already done a plethora of jobs, boom! Smash that Like button! HAMMER THE LIKE BUTTON!
@springsgaragedoors71995 жыл бұрын
FYI garage doors is a great field to get into. This job would take me 20 minutes, charge 120 profit on the low end. Garage doors take an hour and a half and there is a minimum of $400 profit.
@josemezatorrez4 жыл бұрын
I just sold 3 doors and 3 GDOs for 11,650 and I asked the boss how much commission will I receive and he said 240 dollars. lol
@DougKremer5 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how quickly you feel the burn at the tops of your shoulders when winding.
@jeffspirdione81353 жыл бұрын
I've got the torn rotator cuff that agrees with that.
@eddy88903 жыл бұрын
You can just leave the door down and get the right size bars at home depo to take off the tension on the springs instead of trying to squeeze your handed up in to that little space
@JA-ks9ve2 жыл бұрын
You definitely are the man for taking on the task of changing the spring. In terms of instructional video, there was no real useful information. But a great blog video.
@humboldtglitches93494 жыл бұрын
Ur crazy...... Crazy cool 😎
@bigshawn13603 жыл бұрын
I am a machinist . I done several garage door springs .not hard or dangerous to me. It's hard to find the springs . Home depot and lowe's has pictures of them but don't stock them around here . I get them from garage door service guy on next block . He thought he was going to install them . I said no i do it myself . He gets $280 labor . Charges $75 for spring.
@thebluelunarmonkey4 жыл бұрын
About 10 years ago, I replaced the broken springs on my wooden 2-car garage door. I used bathroom scales on the bottom corners of the door to make sure I had an even weight on each side. Can't remember the weight but maybe about 20 lbs on each side when fully closed?
@handyguyinc5 жыл бұрын
I’ve read every single comment posted and not one “pro” says anything about unloading the spring as its being wound. Every two to three rounds you should take your free bar and tap the side of the loaded bar, being careful to hold the bar firmly in place, so that the spring unloads and doesn’t load up on one end more than the other. If not done, the spring can bind against itself and experience premature failure.
@jemcarter084 жыл бұрын
If every pro hasn't mentioned "unloading" (wrong term)...it's because that's not how you do it. Coming from a pro.
@philipphanslovsky5101 Жыл бұрын
Replacing extension springs that broke. Really thankful I don't have torsion springs 🙏🙏
@davidervin73455 жыл бұрын
I like to set the tension so the door just wants to drop slowly and it's easy to lift by hand. I then hook up the opener and make sure it works okay.
@RobertBarth14 жыл бұрын
The test I've read in manuals is that you open the door halfway and the spring should be tensioned enough to hold it there.
@jeezusjr5 жыл бұрын
I just replaced the cables and pulleys on my wood door. The door damn near fell on me, but I got it done.
@l337pwnage4 жыл бұрын
I vice grip the door in place, helps avoid surprises, but it does take some of the excitement away. ;)
@aribasiebel5 жыл бұрын
Probably not a good idea to improvise with the paint mixer bars. I bought a pair of metal rods to wind the springs even though they won't be used again until the new springs break.
@themightyparthos5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I bought a 1/2 inch 3 foot rod and cut it in half, I think I payed 8 bucks or so. Now I have that tool forever and it fits in my top cabinet without obstructing anything.
@jeffspirdione81353 жыл бұрын
You're killing me smalls, I was cringing more than once. I'm thankful you still have all your digits, and limbs. DEFINITELY not a DIY fix, hire a pro for that job. Also, that liftmaster GDO is supposed to have a little slack in the chain. BTW a 12 point 7/16 socket fits those lock bolts perfectly.
@brandonhartman59505 жыл бұрын
The doors not aluminum it’s steel, it needs lubrication BAD on all the hinges, rollers, spring and end bearings. The chain isn’t loose, the rail was just bowing up from pushing the door into the ground. Also WAY easier to do the spring replacement when the doors down
@pauldefillippo84905 жыл бұрын
He should also use real winding bars, not mud mixers. At least he wasn't using screwdrivers, another technician went to a customer's house once where the husband died using screwdrivers. The handle broke and the spring Unwound with the screwdriver stuck in the cone well until it came around and shot him in the head. Dude's wife came home from grocery shopping and found him still standing on the ladder with a screwdriver sticking out of his forehead. If you don't know what you're doing those things will kill you, end of story.
@ns80135 жыл бұрын
@@pauldefillippo8490 While this can certainly be a dangerous job, that story sounds like complete BS. The spring is right up against the wall, so how did a screw driver manage to stay sticking out of the hole for at least a full revolution in order to gain enough speed to be dangerous?
@pauldefillippo84905 жыл бұрын
@@ns8013 are you a technician? If so you would know that sometimes the Springs are attached to a pad which can be built up almost 6 in from where the actual header is. The customer also use some stupid Screwdriver from Harbor Freight, I highly doubt it was a long screwdriver. You can choose to believe the story or not, the person that told it to me was someone that I trust, and while I personally have never been to someone's house where a home owner died, I have seen many homeowners with arms in slings, black eyes, broken hands, and stitches across the face....... all from trying to doing Springs themselves.
@pauldefillippo84905 жыл бұрын
I've been a technician for over 14 years now, I work for one of the largest door service companies in southeast Michigan as their lead technician, I have probably installed close to 8000 doors at this point, and probably at least that many repairs. I have seen a lot of stuff, and most homeowners are stupid, and this guy is going to generate more of them.
@OGRH4 жыл бұрын
ns8013 I think 🤔 Paul DeFillippo just drop kicked yo ass! At the same time I am not a garage door repair man & I did my own springs with the right tools & was very respectful of the instructions given by the company who supplied those parts & tools which came standard. There is another company selling parts and say, “we’ve heard of people using XYZ tool but we don’t recommend using them for safety reasons” so instead of providing the tool they list it for sale as an option when selling their springs. Pretty dirty if you ask me! Company I purchased from provided everything needed to do the job safely and correctly. The whole time I kept in mind that my face could get ripped off if I did something stupid. It was a good motivator and I got the job done properly. When that guy said he’s going to use mud mixers, I cringed.
@philcarpenter5 жыл бұрын
I like how the tag on the shaft said "DO NOT TOUCH!". Handyman said fuck that lets grab with both hands lol .
@nightfangs29105 жыл бұрын
A couple of large vice grips pliers on each door track will hold the door up for you
@Shinedown20123 жыл бұрын
Tightening one of those is very serious business
@JohnDavis-be1sj5 жыл бұрын
I had a double spring door and watched a ton of videos before attempting this task when one broke. I got the springs and bars off of ebay for under 100 bucks! Used a marker to make sure all the pulleys could be lined back up and even put some paint down the springs so I could do my 31 turns it called for... Then came time to release the non-broken spring, I put my bar in raised it and slid the next bar in so i could seat it against the door and boy that's when I realized how much pressure these were truly under. Luckily, for me it went great and I saved 500 bucks off the 600 dollar quote I got. However, from doing my research I learned that even if you take your time and do it right springs sometimes just break even brand new when being put under tension. Now that I am older and make a little more then 10 years ago, no way in hell I would do this again.
@guillermoosuna66214 жыл бұрын
How did you find out you needed 31 turns on the spring??
@curtisleighton48654 жыл бұрын
Do you have to turn it a specific way?
@coachmattc3 жыл бұрын
It was like you were writing my story. Did it once, it all went well, never again.
@JohnDavis-be1sj3 жыл бұрын
@@guillermoosuna6621 My door had a tag on it that said 7 and 3/4 turns, and since the star where the rods go in were 1/4 I just came up with 31. The painted line let me count the stripes too, I never lost count but my painted line was my back up plan I saw on youtube.
@JohnDavis-be1sj3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisleighton4865 yes, the spring winding up is what assists lifting the door so going the wrong way would make it hold the door closed.
@tomedwards63574 жыл бұрын
I installed & repaired garage doors for 45 years this is not how it's done.
@bryanoard505 жыл бұрын
Lol! Now that’s a big spring.
@l337pwnage4 жыл бұрын
it's a baby spring compared to the commercial ones. ;)
@ToMu295 жыл бұрын
If you have to work with the door up, jam a screw driver through the hole on the rail in front of the wheel so if it come down it wont break your arm.
@mrmario113 жыл бұрын
As a novice in doing this exact same thing, it literally scared the sh*t out of me after a got to my 30th turn while tensioning. I don't think I'll ever do that again but the job came out okay.
@douglasadams45405 жыл бұрын
Where I worked I had 170 garage doors to keep running but we had no door openers, they where hand opened so to make darn sure the tension was correct, to much they would stay up not enough you couldn’t pick them up. I agree if you can afford someone to do it it would be a good idea. 18 yrs on the job and didn’t kill anyone. Lol
@lazybeachbum93943 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I did this in high school when my dad was overseas. The last tension part was extremely hard and dangerous. To save $190.00 I foolishly risked my life.
@user-li8pf6jg9w4 ай бұрын
Old set were mismatched, 207 x 1.34 x 27 and 225 x 2 x 29. Metal was pretty bent. Replaced pole. Would 218 x 2 x 22 work as a matched set? How many turns should I start with? Door is 16 x 8 non insulated, 150 - 160lbs
@akosh19764 жыл бұрын
there is any reason u didn’t close the door before u started to work on the spring?
@davidnanze86972 жыл бұрын
much easier to put the door down first. also if you draw a chalk line across the spring it will show the number of turns. this works really well when doing a double spring door.
@affordabledoorgatellc73915 жыл бұрын
Aww man you need me to show you how to do it the easy way lol. Maybe next time.
@SammyM007824 жыл бұрын
Were you scaling the comments like I am? I can imagine some of my customers attempted to replace their torsion or extension springs...can't wait to start seeing those.
@tssteelx5 жыл бұрын
Uber kring on the mud mixers.
@markwatkins54165 жыл бұрын
Lots of bad physics in store for those without a clue.
@james67945 жыл бұрын
need to get you a square 3/8 socket!
@stevehousley83753 жыл бұрын
I like the doors with the side springs, much safer in my opinion. I still install the safety cable inside the spring.
@noahholt4823 жыл бұрын
They run like shit
@daddybear70625 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos, I learn a lot and respect you but this method may give a false sense of assurance to someone and they may use the wrong tools like socket extensions to unwind a spring on a heavy door. It will shear metal that isn’t cold rolled. Please use caution. 26yr Door Technician.
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
Did you miss the ending of the video?
@daddybear70625 жыл бұрын
No but many who watch and get a bright idea may not catch the ending
@daddybear70625 жыл бұрын
And you did say “ maybe tell me how crazy I am” at the very end.
@beejay98943 жыл бұрын
218x2x25 would've gave you a longer life cycle. Been doing garage doors every day for 11 years. Also, doing it with the door up sucks lol. Interesting to see how other people learned to do this stuff
@beejay98943 жыл бұрын
You've encouraged me to start my own channel to make some of this youtube money. And you're nuts for using mud mixers
@chuckHart704 жыл бұрын
Nice... but i would not have used those stir blades... wow that would hurt!
@coolercooler6425 жыл бұрын
Without dying 😂😂😂
@Aepek5 жыл бұрын
Relatively safe, lol..... Have seen many of ppl break arms, cut fingers, etc....from the tension on that spring.. WOW, can it cause a mess, & is NOT fun at all. Stay safe ppl, stay safe. Thx for the vid Handyman✌🏻
@bonzogoTrump5 жыл бұрын
Before i retired i made those springs.
@ofcbob63913 жыл бұрын
oh, that was such a helpful comment.
@mostlikelywedoitservices97435 жыл бұрын
So did the old spring have a color code on it? I have done some there was a painted line on them and you could match the twist between springs by how twisted the paint line was.
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
They are color coded for weight. The diameter of the spring and the length of the spring also play a role in what spring works on a specific door. Its best to measure your old one and look for a color code on it.
@JohnDavis-be1sj5 жыл бұрын
When I did my door back in the day, my new ones didn't have the stripes to count the spring twists so I added them myself. Sure helped making sure I could visually see how many turns the spring was wound.
@tgirgis5 жыл бұрын
Crazy my spring just snapped last night!
@fernandodiaz45705 жыл бұрын
Don’t pay more then $300. Try to get quotes over the phone. Good luck
@josephlacerra84335 жыл бұрын
Great video. Is the amount of spring tension based on the weight of the door? The unit in the video is different than ones I see in my area.
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
Spring rotations is based on how may times the pulley needs to spin to pull the cable up and keep tension on it. Its about 7.5 turns for a 7 foot door. You buy the springs in weight ratings for a specific door. They all need to spin around 7 times.
@ajoking49235 жыл бұрын
If you don't have enough turns and the cable goes slack it can come off of the pulley and the door will FALL.
@davidsmith55995 жыл бұрын
@@ajoking4923 Are there redundant safety designs required for these systems? If a cable goes slack, there should be some safety stop based on forces unique that failure. Yes?
@l337pwnage4 жыл бұрын
@@davidsmith5599 If a cable comes off/breaks, nothing can really help that. If any other part fails, everything, including the spring, is attached around the torque tube, so nothing can really fly anywhere except the cables.
@Ryan-mx4ll5 ай бұрын
As a garage door technician, please dont mess with the springs or the cables attached to the bottom fixtures unless you know what you're doing. There's way's we can work on the cables & bottom fixtures without causing injury or unwinding the springs (we can backwind them to release tension and use grips on each cable) but you have to understand how it all works. Those cables, and springs, will kill you. Everything is under tremendous tension. Or you will lose a finger or hand. The main thing with springs is use WINDING BARS! Don't use rebar, screw drivers, nothing except winding bars. And make sure your head is out of the way. Make sure each turn, especially after it's under tension, the winding bar is FULLY IN because if you tighten those set screws and your hand is in the way and that bar slips out, you're not gonna have a good day. I'm serious for anyone reading this, be careful. I would just spend the money and call a professional if I were you.
@kmonnier5 жыл бұрын
So many horror stories in the comments.
@MrRODSTER4264 жыл бұрын
Any more nowadays this is a pro job considering that you have to safety check the installation to make sure it's tensioned correctly, all the safety features work as advertised, any crush factors have been eliminated and that the entire garage door mechanism is code compliant... For guys like me it's just another opportunity to up-sale a client and educate them...Using this door as an example a bit of maintenance and lubrication is in order too... as noted during the walk thru in the video... This video featured a sectional overhead garage door as opposed to a full panel overhead door which entirely different animal altogether and has it own sources of danger... As I said before nowadays this is a pro job and if you choose to take it on it would be wise to make sure you know what are doing because any misstep could put you and your family's safety at risk... and nothing grabs your attention faster than hearing a spring that busted loose and has you in it's sight!
@harrvey5 жыл бұрын
Did you lube the tracks? It sounded a bit squeaky.
@white00xtreme5 жыл бұрын
The tracks should never be lubed. The door's rollers are rolling in the tracks, not sliding. The squeaking is coming from the hinges that connect the garage door's panels together.
@sparkysimian5 жыл бұрын
The squeak is in the hinges, and doors will also make a lot of noise in the spring if it isn't stretched.
@lrc872905 жыл бұрын
Thanks for safety caution on stored energy. The spring. We all need to think safety when we are working with any form a stored energy. A few months back was removing old pull down attic steps with a friend. He was in the attic and took the last screw out while I was supporting the bottom. The spring tension slammed the frame of the unit down onto the part I was holding and exploded the 1x4. Missed my hand by an inch or so. Needless to say it would have shattered my hand.
@zacksgaragedoorserviceandr12083 жыл бұрын
😂😂I love the mud mixer’s and just to let you know don’t forget to lubricate your garage door that is very important and disengage your garage door from the opener and on the trolley at South there should be a nut in a bolt make sure you make your chain tighter go in the center of the rail and make sure the chain is no more than 1/2 inch above the rail in the center lubricate all the hinges and rollers sideburns are the torsion tube is and even the spring I recommend PB blaster a garage door lubricant you can buy at Lowe’s or the Home Depot in for the garage door opener rail I recommend white lithium grease on the inner trolley and on top of the rail in with the white lithium grease make sure you rub it in with your hands Make sure you wear gloves and everything on your garage door and opener will sound so much better and is won’t sound like your ears are getting raped
@dig10352 жыл бұрын
Light please!
@QwertyUiop-jy4ym3 жыл бұрын
You can avoid having to tension the spring if you just hook it up while the door is open open.
@justofromthem68955 жыл бұрын
I have aanother question not related to this how much would you charge to install commercial urnal ' just replaceing an old one
@keithupton86ku5 жыл бұрын
Depends on a lot of factors. When I was doing more sidework, I would sometimes check out different websites. One that I liked a lot is called www.homewyse.com or something similar. It gives a lot of info. I'm not a pro, so some things might be off, but I recommend it. I wonder what Handyman's thoughts are?
@rosahairsalon5 жыл бұрын
New spring,,,lol,,u ain't right handyman! lol
@Djm93935 жыл бұрын
full send bro can you post the video of you fixing your leaf spring that you posted on ig happy sunday funday
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
I only recorded it on my phone for Instagram. I wanted to make it in to a long story but I can't figure out how to make a long story.
@Djm93935 жыл бұрын
@@TheHandyman1 ooo I see your smart/ a project manager you'll figure it out bro also how did you how many turns to do
@batbawls2 жыл бұрын
There are some real horror stories with these garage door springs. I heard one time someone was trying to change out theirs and inadvertently started the vietnam war and we all know how that went. Gotta be careful
@zdiver15 жыл бұрын
My whole family was killed by a double spring and I lost both legs and arms also killed the next door neighbors cat.
@briansierzega5 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when one less cat is around. #CatsAreEvilAndWillMurderYouWhileYouSleep!
@droolbunnyxo95655 жыл бұрын
😯 Do you live in an airplane hanger or something? 😂
@kendesantis73195 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever.
@leveragelifestyle85812 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@jamesschenken16365 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Why did you not lower the door before working on the spring?
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
You didn't watch the entire video did you?
@jamesschenken16365 жыл бұрын
I did, start to finish. Was there some prelude that got left off from the beginning that explains the latch-up to hold the door open? I really like your videos - very informative. I was just curious because I have lowered the door when doing this replacement on my own garage door. Your way certainly works.
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
Humm. Not sure how you missed it. It's spelled out across the screen. Thanks for watching.
@chrismoore99975 жыл бұрын
The spring replacement process is easier if you so it with the door down from the start.
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you didn't watch the entire video. I literally spelled out why I left the door open.
@jasbirsingh60704 жыл бұрын
Had you placed cables ,tightened spring and pulleys set screws while door was open - you did not have to wind springs at all - because when door moves down it would have tensioned springs
@oldfatandtired64064 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@SammyM007824 жыл бұрын
Still gonna be about 1 1/4 turns short lol.
@alecu7395 жыл бұрын
Won’t be tricky if you put the door down
@xersys25565 жыл бұрын
So I’m assuming if you’re removing a spring still under tension you want to use bars to unwind it like you did to tension it?
@ajoking49235 жыл бұрын
Yes, the longer the bars are the more control you have.
@ericlockridge48975 жыл бұрын
That's correct. I purchased the bars at The Home Depot. I think it was 1/2" round metal bar stock.
@jeffspirdione81353 жыл бұрын
Yes
@RadicallyLowly5 жыл бұрын
I never saw a 1 long spring on the Top of the garage door.. I have seen springs on both sides on the sides of the garage door set up.. Is this an older Vintage style❓
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
This door is new style 10 years old.
@white00xtreme5 жыл бұрын
This video was a for a torsion spring. The two on the sides are called extension springs.
@adlibrium5 жыл бұрын
Those are extension springs. My father who is a retired garage door technician told me that extension springs are more dangerous to the customer, and torsion springs (like the one shown) are more dangerous for the technician. When extension springs break, if there is no safety wire it can seriously injure or kill someone. When a torsion spring brakes it just spins on the bar, the danger is in replacing them.
@droolbunnyxo95655 жыл бұрын
Is that a garage door spring, or are you just happy to see us?! 😀 (Happy to see you too!!) (But, not THAT happy... 🤨)
@jimgriffiths90715 жыл бұрын
Nice job. The trick was to have those metal tensioner bars. Very nicely explained. Don't try this at home safety police......😒
@laszlovass73265 жыл бұрын
Even the pros respect these springs, probably from getting their asses kick by one or two. Done right all is well, one misstep and something bad is gonna happen.
@kkutube19722 жыл бұрын
I almost lost my eyes when I knew nothing about garage spring load.
@jfox93173 жыл бұрын
Red means right hand wound left side.
@craigerlist5 жыл бұрын
Just my opinion, but shouldn't the spring be lubed since it is rubbing against the metal bar? And (like the people below are saying) Shouldn't the tracks also be lubed? Seems kind of loud. My neighbor has one of these, and when it opens you can barely hear the motor running and nothing more.. No squeaks and such.
@l337pwnage4 жыл бұрын
+craigerlist it's not unusual to oil the spring(s) to stop rust and reduce the friction of the coils rubbing together. Rubbing on the torque tube is usually not much of a concern, although large commercial springs will often have blocking in them to counteract the spring sag.
@123chhuana5 жыл бұрын
Could any one explain me why my garage door springs are on each left and right end of the bar instead of in the middle pls?
@l337pwnage4 жыл бұрын
Typically, the standard torsion springs are anchored in the middle, and the "easy wind" style torsion springs are anchored on the ends. It's just a different style.
@jm3097675 жыл бұрын
Is there a written guide somewhere to follow on how many 'turns-to-tension' to load the spring?
@TheHandyman15 жыл бұрын
Its base on rotations of the pulley to keep tension on the cable all the way up. Its usually around 7.5 turns. You can play around with it to get the exact amount of rotations.
@james67945 жыл бұрын
ddmgaragedoors.com/diy-instructions/ this website has a good amount of information how to change a spring safely
@ajoking49235 жыл бұрын
Never forget to put the bars in before you release the set screws.
@davidsmith55995 жыл бұрын
@@james6794 I now understand why the HM said to hire a pro . . . a lot to learn. His video on measuring springs was excellent. Thanks for the link.
@jdjohnson3 жыл бұрын
Bolt Sizes on doors are 7/16, 1/2, 9/16, 3/8, 1/4.
@arturskobodzinski69294 жыл бұрын
❤️😹
@alexb.15245 жыл бұрын
Man that thing is LOUD!!!
@MNpale3 жыл бұрын
Yeah wtf
@bobunderwater53205 жыл бұрын
I've a pair of these to fix next week unfortunately they're really old and totally different. Maybe I'll die 😂🤔
@themightyparthos5 жыл бұрын
Three days and waiting, no response and we will assume Murphy got you.
@bobunderwater53205 жыл бұрын
only the good die young, So I was OK 😂 no mission accomplished and both running sweet.