How to respond to an Atheist as a Muslim? - Dr. Shabir Ally answers

Dr. Shabir Ally is president of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto, Canada.
He is a Muslim activist, academic, scholar and public speaker on Islam and comparative religion. He is viewed as the leading Muslim debater in the world on Islam and Christianity, having engaged in public debates around the world with noted theologians, Christian apologists and renowned philosophers.
Dr. Shabir Ally holds an M.A. and PhD in Islamic studies from the University of Toronto, and a BA in religious studies from Laurentian University with a specialization in Biblical Literature. He is the author of numerous booklets on Islam and Christianity. #ShabirAlly #Atheism #Islam #Quran #Atheist #Agnostic #Agnosticism

[@ClandestineGirl16X]

Dr. Shabir's intelligence blows me away. He's just so smart! May Allah bless him and his family Ameen

[@qarulxira8697]

Beautiful sister… MashaAllah I agree with u, always …. Check Jamal saraboso Islam- is like a diamond, the more u probe; the more apparent. How n why else l, it’s been subjected to the most harsh n mighty power of western propaganda n their sheer meticulous lies, yet Islam- nuur of Allah sw remains the only true fastest growing faith… in the west… sl. That is the testimony of Islam … n the (waxyi munazal)… Islam, yu, the moon n the Da Sun .. r all self evident shahaadah of to Allah sw… Evident, imperative; like day n night.reckoning, by the second, like a ticking heart beat, subxanallah.

[@moononquick]

Just because somebody doubts your belief doesn't means you should give up your belief

[@mohamedameen396]

beautiful lecture by brother shabir Ali throw your knowledge brother masaallah

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

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[@MR-un6dy]

MashaALLAH... Dr u r really doing great job ... May ALLAH show all of us right way and cause to accept ISLAM, the only religion.

[@roubamamohamed6935]

Amee thuma Amee

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

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[@charlielucky3186]

Dr shabir ally is a man of knowledge he’s a great man

[@thechallenge293]

We need more people like you. You are a great scholar Dr. Shabir Ally! Unfortunately, many Muslims these days stopped seeking knowledge and this is bringing misery to their lives.

[@reubenahn8020]

Such an open-minded and acceptful person, a brilliant thinking human

[@MohammadKhan-hg6qh]

An excellent lecture. Thanks to Shabir Ali.

[@MdInamullahKhan]

Assalamalaikum wrwb... so if those who reject god should be at backfoot... those who believe are the ones who are in solace... I asked one atheist my beliefs give me a clear road map of what i should do and what i will get.... can you show me your road map... his answer was ignorance (darkness with no idea what awaits ahead)

[@justawarlord]

if everything needs a creator who the fuck made god himself? and who made gods maker?

[@mwazze1]

It is well known that educated Atheist believe in the Multiverse Theory which apparently created our universe. Also, they agree upon that had to be a Mother Universe without a beginning that started everything off ( Refer to Richard Dawkins ). My question to you is " what’s the difference when Theist say God had no begining to this so called Mother universe which also had no beginning' . There no tangible science that prove this Mother Multiverse theory.

[@justawarlord]

mwazze1 first off all there are many theory's about the beginning, and multiverse theory isn't what you think it is, second that is a theory and scientist never claimed to know the awnser yet believers will gladly say god made everything it's the god of the gaps the universe is expending this is a fact (or it's just collectively getting hotter ) and at one point there was a singular point were all must have come from a theory is a white hole that could a line with multi verse if you will although that would make a worm hole as you have a black hole that swallows and a white hole that spits

[@millat_ibraheem]

"if everything needs a creator who the fuck made god himself?" No, every created thing has a creator, since God is not created and eternal he has no creator.

[@justawarlord]

ملة إبراهيم حنيفا The Religion of Abraham so does't that mean that the big bang is more logical than believing in god?

[@millat_ibraheem]

+Just a WARLORD What caused the big bang? According to me, it was God that caused the big bang, according to you the big bamg happened from nothing.

[@papackar]

You're a pleasure to listen to, sir.

[@mohamedameen396]

hi what is atheist? ????? please explain shortly and briefly thank you

[@Tenzek]

It means _not theist._

[@mohamedameen396]

+Tenzek you making fool of your self bro? ???

[@mohamedameen396]

+Keith L. ok thank you very much for your answer. ...if athiest don't believe in God. ....how athiest fools came to this world. ...

[@mohamedameen396]

+Keith L. look like to me athiest foolish come from two men sex. ...not men and women. ... sad very very sad no brain no knowledge

[@mohamedameen396]

+Keith L. look like to me athiest fools came from two men sex not men and women

[@zubairchohan392]

May Allah bless you... Where is haris sultan and galib kamal... Can you face Dr....

[@petermetcalfe6722]

//How to respond to an Atheist as a Muslim?// Proof that Allah exists. That's all atheists require.

[@samuelvimes7686]

@Amin ds: so your whole argument basically boils down to fear and the threat of violence. Ever considered a job at the mafia?

[@YalvacliDelikurt]

Did you ever see the algorithm of your hand for writing down this comment? Try to explain that it happens by coincidence...

[@theenragedone3963]

@Dan Delgado You are the ones with false hopes. You hope this universe is an accident. You hope we are accidents. We are the ones who seek that truth through logic.

[@theenragedone3963]

@Dan Delgado You have faith that this is all an accident. You understand that the theory of a God existing is scientifically possible. And is a theory, it cant be ruled out. Now, all I am doing, is presenting reliable evidence that cant be turned down.

[@theenragedone3963]

@Dan Delgado Quote anything within the quran, that makes you doubt it is from God.

[@yasinlazaar]

AĹLAH and islam is your salvation , anyone who reads this please pray for me please

[@zarif11607]

Let me just lie down a scenario: A child born in the wild of the purest of soul tragically loses both his parents and has to teach himself to survive in the wild. One of these such survival tasks make him have to hunt and eat pork. He has no way of knowing of God, and has had no background teachings of Islam. Since he has eaten the pork, he has committed a sin. And since he doesn't technically believe in God as he never had someone teach him about it, does he automatically get sent to "Hell" for having sinned?

[@filipion-h3k]

Yeah try these arguments on an atheist if you want to fail.

[@achille295]

XD

[@Imrightyourewrong1]

I love my parents are you saying existence only can be confirmed by eyesight?

[@finalbladex8382]

I love my parents if you are insinuating sight, one of the 5 generic sense humans use in the physical world, is needed to prove God exist then he doesn't because no one has seen him in this pyshical realm. If you are using sight in a metaphorical sense then look to the Quran verse 2:6 and 2:7. Allah is the one that made those individuals "blinded" and will punish them for it. Which just seems unfair. You know what an atheist ideology shows? Nothing, non believe in something, no rules, guidelines or regulations, which seems fair compared to most holy texts. A big note all humans are born atheist like any other animal. Religion / faith is a learned concept. It seems you nor your God can teach us "atheists" how to "see" anyway. If only Allah gave us the capability to see and tangable proof in this pyshical realm w I bet you most atheist will be open to the concept of at least a God of some sort.

[@Imrightyourewrong1]

I love my parents I see many assertions but I no evidence. Could you please demonstrate that the god you believe in exists?

[@Imrightyourewrong1]

I love my parents no you got that wrong. You feel hungry because you're body need nutrients to survive.

[@infidelcastro827]

For some time I was interested. And when it came to science fiction, I was like - Really???

[@One-rr8um]

He didn't mention those things like parallel universe theory or so for as a fact. He used it as there are views in scientific communities about it. He clearly said that some people think that there are parallel universes. He didn't make arguments on this mere popular but not proven theory of parallel universe. He summarized his argument at the end of the lecture. You can check. All of them were philosophically driven arguments not any fictional argument.

[@SilentMott]

God has a terrible imagination if he created human suffering IN ORDER for other good things to happen. If he could have made the universe to operate in ANY WAY it wanted, he specifically chose to torture us when he could have not. I DON'T CARE if god "has his reasons and we should accept that". If its malevolent and evil for people to torture and kill other people, then god doing it is no different.

[@aybb1965]

This world is a test. God gives reward to those who have patience in hard moments. Imagine if there was no suffering how easy would it Be to get everlasting happyness? God wants us to use our brain and he knows we can do it

[@DJ8017]

How did you determine that "This world is a test"? When did you prove that there is a God"? If there is no god, there is no "reward to those who have patience in hard moments" and you are just lying to promote your wishful fantasy. Haha then the next word out of your mouth is "Imagine" which demonstrates that its nothing but your wishful fantasy. How did you determine what a "god" wants? Are you saying you have the power to read Gods mind?? If this god doesn't exist, he doesn't want anything, and you are again just lying to promote your wishful fantasy. You are begging the question to say that "a God exists". (yet violate the very definition of exists) You are special pleading to say that this "God" is YOUR god. You are begging the question to say that YOU KNOW what this "god's" plans are and his intentions. "Imagine if there was no suffering how easy would it Be to get everlasting happyness?"

[@aybb1965]

+Slevin Klevra Lol because god spoke to us through revelation. Read the quran thats how i know world is a test 😃 There is alot of evidence that god does exist. God is the creator of heavens and the earth and even atheists believe there is a first cause but they dissagree who or what it is but to me its just a atheistic trick to doubt people about god

[@DJ8017]

"l because god spoke to us through revelation" - Bullshit assertion -You haven't demonstrated that any god exists to do any such speaking. What does not exist cannot be the cause of other things. How did you distinguish the difference between a "god" speaking to you, form your subconscious or other influences that you are not aware of? Some people claim that aliens abducted them and spoke to them too. Why should I believe either of you? "Read the quran thats how i know world is a test" - so you appeal to a book because a book says so. Thats literally the definition of circular reasoning. www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/66/Circular-Reasoning Its also Special Pleading. There are countless millions of books, hundreds of "holy books" and all the holy books contradict each other in some way or another. You picked your favorite fantasy book. Why? I could assert the same thing about the Peter Pan book. Why should anyone care what a quran says? I could just as easily say that Peter Pan took me to Never Never Land and revealed to me the secrets of the universe. What reason would you have to believe me? Its also written in a book. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading "God is the creator of heavens and the earth" - Bullshit assertion Prove it. A god would have to exist first before doing any such creating, and you haven't demonstrated any such god exists. The real question is HOW a god created things because the how is the important part. If you cannot answer that, than you really aren't answering the question, and its irrelevant. You've got a non-answer. You are asserting as fact that which you don't know to be true, which is lying. "atheists believe there is a first cause" -No we don't. Antimatter pops in and out of existence without a cause. Why would anyone believe that the universe needed a cause? For all we know, the universe has always existed in some form. We know the Big Bang happened, no one knows why. Again you are asserting what you don't know to be true - lying. "...its just a atheistic trick to doubt people about god" - You haven't demonstrated that a god exist first. What does not exist, cannot be the cause of other things. Again, you are asserting what you don't know to be true. - lying

[@aybb1965]

+Slevin Klevra You reasoning is flawed. You dont believe in a first cause but yet you believe that the Big bang happened? so my question is who created the Big bang? did it come out of nothing (which is scientifical impossible) or did someone create it? if someone created it it must be eternal because if it needs a creator also then you have a problem with infinite regression which means the universe would not exist. And how do you know the quran is not from god? You havent studied this book and understood it yet you are making conclusions? You are very biased and you dont use your brain thats why u have doubts about god. The universe had a beginning and there are many evidences for that and you yourself agree that there was a big bang which means you believe in a beginning. Science believes everything that had a beginning must have a cause. so my question is who created the Big bang?

[@locksmithlocksmith7941]

The Answer To The first cause: ALLAH said about Himself that He is "The Manifest Truth" [Quran 24:25]. So ALLAH is The Manifest Truth that caused everything to take place

[@Charango123quena]

the answer to the title question is simple ... just be quiet and learn from an Atheist

[@junkandgunk]

no I wont. (most) Atheists have *nothing* good to say about religion.

[@junkandgunk]

@Kuffar Legion No. you can't say anything good about religion because you're not even a religious person to begin with, just as what your own name suggests. And second, you intentionally chose all of those fields of human learning that weren't considered in the Quran to make it seem outdated. The Quran does contain verses about politics in the 5th Chapter Al-Maidah verse 52. I'm just gonna leave to that example as I want you to find the result for yourself if you're curious, and to prove that you yourself aren't ignorant.

[@junkandgunk]

@Dan Delgado there's no evidence Islam is more political than religious. As far as I know, the only circumstance where politics are considered in Islam is when choosing leaders for (some sort of) a kingdom. Like I said, in Al-Maidah verse 52.

[@junkandgunk]

@Kuffar Legion I've been a Muslim for my entire life, and I've NEVER seen any kind of Islamic "Rules" that threaten us, it's just that YOU are feeling threatened because you want to have all freedom you want. And if anything, it's WE'RE the ones who're supposed to ask you about choosing life this way. We know everything we do has some sort of payback, but disbelieving people like you think that you must get some sort of revenge on someone for doing bad things at you, or destroying items that hurt some parts of your body, even though you're the one who hurt yourself by approaching that item in the first place. And second, this world isn't permanent, yet you still desperately wanna make it seem like permanent. You should be grateful the Quran at least is a gigantic Scripture containing histories of the best people, while you only have your own incomplete and unspoken biography and at the same time misinterpreting other biographies. Believe me, doing those things isn't that hard. I could easily misinterpret the history of Columbus' discovery of America, George Washington's presidency, and acting like as if those stories weren't effecting my life whether or not I know about their true existence.

[@junkandgunk]

@Kuffar Legion just like there were no Columbus and no George Washington XD

[@sayedthebacktracker]

It seems the full lecture is not uploaded. Can anybody provide the link for full video ?

[@johnhammond6423]

‘Suffering in the world does not disprove God’ [7:20] No but it sure proved your so called 'loving' God is not real! Now if you Muslims insist on believing in a loving and merciful God despite the obvious point that no loving God would allow even one small child to die a horrible death from cancer for example then you need to go through a lot of hoops to explain it. This man is a fine example of going through lots of hoops. But if you insist on believing in man made religions then you have to do this.

[@johnhammond6423]

***** Thank you for that statement without good argument to back it up sir. Jumped through any good hoops lately?

[@barrackdovahkhiin3394]

in abrahamic beliefs. you are not a proper believers if you love this world, and anything that offers. children died of cancer, no matter what religion they believed. atheist maybe. they will still be granted heaven in Islamic belief. Adam sinned. that's why God placed human in this imperfect, full of misery world. earth is not heaven

[@johnhammond6423]

Kiryu Kazuma _’children died of cancer, no matter what religion they believed’_ That’s because all religions are the same…….. man made nonsense. _’Adam sinned’_ We are just an intelligent ape [homo sapiens] and that is proven by overwhelming evidence. Adam is a fictional man from religious fairy tale books. But if [your] God was real and all powerful and let just one little child die from cancer when he could have cured it makes your God a murderer by default. This comment comes from someone living in the real world. I do hope you join us in the real world soon my friend.

[@barrackdovahkhiin3394]

john hammond​ look. You do not need to tell me that. Because I was defending what you called "not loving" God.  As I said. Earth is not heaven. Why would God put a sinner (adam) to a place that is considered good if God was to punish Adam??.

[@johnhammond6423]

Kiryu Kazuma sorry my friend, not fully awake yet [I am in the U.K.] I do apologize.

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

Qur'an 18:9, makes into real history, the second century myth of 7 Christian youths who were persecuted for their faith and went to sleep in a cave for 300 years and then woke up with no ill effects. In the original myth the hero is a Christian, but in the Koran the hero is a Muslim. My question is: in the absence of any copyright laws when the Koran was written, are you at least prepared to pay compensation to the living relatives of the author of this myth? If not, would you be in favor of going starting up a charity fund to compensate for damages of copyright infringement?

[@Broeske3]

Surprising good lecture. Not to belittle Dr. Shabir Ally of course. But in general religious people don't have good arguments against atheism. I hope we can continue and evolve in such dialogue. For Arabic reading people I recommend reading Mustafa Mahmud and Adnan Ibrahim. Those are muslim scholars who address atheism in our current time.

[@Tenzek]

Are you suggesting these are arguments against atheism at all, let alone good arguments? To me, they sound like excuses to believe what you choose to believe regardless of anything you learn outside the religious claims.

[@Broeske3]

+Tenzek What I mean in general there is little dialogue between atheists and Muslims. There are many good arguments on both parties. Islam teaches us to seek truth, present evidence and to think. People react very emotional when they engage in such conversations.

[@Tenzek]

Salar Abbas This isn't dialogue between anyone, however. This is him presenting _"what atheists think"_ and then _"debunking"_ it, without any atheist saying a word.

[@Broeske3]

+Tenzek this why I said in general. Dr Shabir Ally is doing an excellent job. Atheists do that too. He presenting it in truth without twisting things. And giving answers. A direct dialogue is great also. I hope to see that in the future God willing.

[@Tenzek]

Salar Abbas What I hear is just about confirming Muslims in their beliefs. He's talking to Muslims about atheists, not to atheists about Muslims. He never talks about reasons for atheists to believe Muslims, but about ways for Muslims to dismiss atheists as the problem he sees them to be. I mean, do you really still think telling us that some famous atheist in the past secretly believed is meaningful to an atheist? It's just trying to make Muslims feel better that atheism is really some kind of false position or lie. A dialogue requires talking to each other in a respectful way, not talking about each other dismissively in ways that your own side wants to hear.

[@wesleysnipes1796]

You believe in god... You took class how to respond to Atheist and do not examine and dissect the god you believe in... I think you are heading to wrong direction. How about try to learn more about your god so that next time an Atheist ask you about your god, you got a rational answer to give instead of avoiding to answer the question.

[@Tenzek]

Ah, but that is how you make new atheists. They never suggest that you take a close look at what you believe.

[@wesleysnipes1796]

Tenzek Yap.... Same goes with regular christians. They never really read their bible and utilize critical thinking. But when it comes to other religion they become all of a sudden skeptical. Bias indeed. But there are some who actually read the bible and sees the bible as an opportunity to be utilize for personal gain. They pick and choose verses in the book, bible or koran, things that they like and make sense and disregard the rest that doesn't sounds good. It's all business from there on.

[@mohamedameen396]

hi brother your God is my God is one. ... I called Allah. .creator. .who created you me and every Tom dick and Harry thankyou bro

[@wesleysnipes1796]

Mohamed Ameen Really? And how do you prove that? Do not expect me to just believe it just because you said it. I am not an idiot muslim like you. It is funny that you assumed that I have a god. I am an Atheist. Prove to me that your god exist first, dumbass!

[@mohamedameen396]

wesley Snipes I will give you examples .... Go to the mirror and look at your self. ..... Thank you

[@emenjay0077]

The brothers were using their phones to text for help to get them TF out of there

[@albertogutierrez341]

Islam made me be an atheist.

[@Jahzwolf1955]

I don't waste my time with disbelievers unless they ask me a question.

[@balrogtheundefeated]

the cosmological argument and the design argument; why the universe and human exist is an invalid question produced by a mind which doesn't understand how reality works. It is like placing purpose as the first cause without examining how the purpose comes about. Even if God really creates the whole universe for the purpose of testing human and worship Him, how did that purpose come to be? God of the Quran claims to be self-sufficient, which is an incompatible term with the creator because every created things have purposes that unveiled the creators weakness. Ie... toys and tools are created because human aren't satisfied with their current state thus unveiling psychological and physical weakness as the prime cause to how those things come about. the moral argument; morality comes from observation of the consequence of action. God is irrelevant.

[@junkandgunk]

No it's not. You're just making justification to take God out of the picture. And you can't really question about God's will and God's plan, it's His business. It's like threatening someone to tell us his secrets by murdering them, and what's the benefit we'll get anyway?? We're trying to get the good of God from the results, not His reasons for doing so.

[@worldpeace8824]

Atheists in the internet assume they have everything figured out. There is a big difference in a person who wants to know if God exists and a person who wants to prove that god does not exist. The latter should just be ignored, cuz even if God himself appeared to him, he will say its fake. For atheists/agnostics etc who really want proof of God, reply to this comment.

[@worldpeace8824]

*+psilynt1* 1. From an atheist doctor watch?v=JL1oDuvQR08 2. From a public live recitation of Surah Al-baqarah from the Quran. watch?v=5dtN9UiPk5Y

[@worldpeace8824]

***** Read my first response. Is that so difficult to check or miss? Did you check back to see if there were 2 points?

[@Tenzek]

+World Peace I am not seeing a first response with any points from you, World Peace. Is it possible you put in a link that triggered the spam filter?

[@worldpeace8824]

Tenzek ***** The evidences are above.

[@Tenzek]

You can see your own comments if they are filtered out, but we can't. You'll have to repost them if you want us to actually see them.

[@paullafemina8260]

If i went into a cave and told you an angel had been talking to me and that i flew up to heaven on winged horse you would think me insane. But because it says so in a old book it is called a religion and people dont see the difference because they have such an investment on their beliefs.

[@One-rr8um]

LOL. Obviously people doesn't know you. You are not known enough to people as trustworthy. But people at that time did trust prophets and they are historical. It's not simply literature. BTW may I ask where do you invest your time and what have you accomplished in your life? They are so many successful people out there who invest in their faith. Give me a good reason take your words seriously imao

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

Muslims quote an article written in 1957 by the Jehovah's Witnesses who stated there were 50,000 errors in the translation of the King James version. My question is: Even if this were true, (which of course it is not), how does this prove there is corruption in the original Greek MSS from which the King James version was translated?

[@shayan484]

I think people are not considering something important. If there is no suffering, the world has no problems, it just becomes a lame heaven. Otherwise, if you are saying that only calamities and such are bad then what about depression, envy, anxiety etc.. are these not bad? So what you're really asking for is heaven and peace without any trial. "That which we obtain too easily, we esteem too lightly" - Thomas Paine Another idea that Muslims and other theists hold is that the current life is temporary. But, that does not mean that the bad is insignificant, right? Perhaps... You can try to think of it in terms of a timeline. Your time on earth is a part of this timeline (the beginning part), but the line extends forever so your time on Earth is infinitely small in comparison, and hence so is your suffering (and your happiness). Of course, it is not easy to see in this perspective since all of our knowledge is relative. (What Dr Shabir explained in the white-wall analogy in the video) Regardless, Insha' Allah may everyone find satisfaction in their philosophical/theological journeys. Assalamu Alaikum (Peace be unto you)

[@Tenzek]

That's not the point, however. It's not about wishing for good things at all. It's about reconciling the attributes of something that is all-powerful, all-knowing that is all-good and yet makes up this scenario in the first place. The concept of a test and the way we think about what we earn, all of that would be because he made us that way. Why design the concept of cruelty? Why make us need to suffer to appreciate it? That is arbitrary, not necessary evil, unless you are saying he could not have done it another way or didn't know better.

[@Tenzek]

It looks like my comment and your last comment are not visible anymore. I did not get to read your whole reply.

[@shayan484]

Yeah, I have noticed this happening on KZbin. If you would like to continue the discussion please lmk by PM.

[@Tenzek]

Well, as I said, I didn't get to see what you were saying in your reply, so I am not sure what to reply to. From the little I saw, it looked like you were basically saying that if things were different, we would be different than we are, which doesn't really make a difference to what I said and is sort of obvious.

[@shayan484]

Sorry, that was only a small first part of my reply. Honestly, I can't even figure out how to send a private message on YT. i think there is some requirement. Regardless here is a discord link if you are still interested: discord.gg/AkQcb

[@GeorgeStanmore]

Starts at 21:55. Make excuses for why theres no evidence (because its an invisible "relationship"). 17:30 LOL

[@kkocicakk]

"I believe because I know god exists and that's why I believe." How does that make any sense? To accept existence of god you have to accept the existence of god. That's so stupid.

[@junkandgunk]

If you had a best friend who is the most honest in all situations, and then one time he/she tells you that he/she has a pet cat in his/her house, are you willing to accept that as a "FACT" or a "BELIEF" or a "LIE" that you used to go against that person merely because that person hasn't proved it yet ????

[@scarfhs1]

14:30 There will be pie in the sky when I die.

[@zorba9660]

If this is intelligence that too ‘overwhelmingly’ than your standard for intelligence is toooo low !!

[@johnpelosi4117]

It is funny just to consider "atheism" as a problem. There is no evidence whatsoever to support a belief in "God", the only "problem" is that those who insist their "God" does exist, have no justification for such a notion.

[@deepthinker8153]

Nice lecture

[@SmokeySkies]

Great lecture, Im a believer of necessary evil if you noe how to learn from it.

[@paulcock8929]

OK, Sabir Ally, if you can prove that something is wrong, should you bilieve what you disproved? It is not to difficult to prove that what in the quran is not accurate, for example, you can disprove that the sun is going under in a muddy pool, as the quran states. So the quran is not infallible. Now you, Sabir Alli.

[@junkandgunk]

That ayah in the Quran was told about someone's (Dzulkarnain) perspective. It's like seeing a rainbow ends on someplace after raining, but when you go to that spot (where you thought the rainbow ends) the rainbow disappears.

[@kkocicakk]

You shouldn't not believe just because you don't have a proof. What the fuck?

[@amgservices1787]

Very Very Nice

[@smanetagen4164]

anthony dowell went deist not theist

[@sebastianschulz6531]

6:38 Dr Ally, I beg you pardon, but the suffering is not a real concern of why I do not believe in a god, there are other reasons why there is no god, inherent flaws in the holy scripts of all religions, faulty, incomplete or outright false creation stories that cannot withstand scientific tests. The existence of god is a scientific question, and as such there is no god... you could say we have no proof for one. If a divine entity chooses to remain hidden and has the power to do so, we cannot sincerely claim there to be one without the evidence.

[@junkandgunk]

The existence of God is mostly in the philosophical realm. if you're trying to "prove" God's existence using science, and only with the True Physical Appearance of God that can confirm this, it can be a problem. God (for now) can only be presented by belief, but we do have reasons and facts ABOUT why there is God.

[@anglomandingo68]

Does this guy sell second hand cars as well?

[@psilynt1]

26:00 This guy gets it right. Atheists haven't had any personal experience with a god. I'm baffled by how many theists don't understand this.

[@بنتاليوتيوبأستغفرالله]

i'm just curious .. but did you struggled to know God before you became an atheist ? .. plz be honest ..(if the answer is yes ) can you tell me what did you do to figure out God

[@psilynt1]

No and then yes. I didn't think often of religion as a child. I believed God existed and never heard the phrase "God doesn't exist" until I was 13. I thought the speaker was crazy then and continued to pray daily. When I was 18-19, I learned about other religions by actually studying their holy texts and observing their followers practices. I wanted to understand their views. A year or so later I questioned my own faith and realized my prayer was as foolish as other methods. It didn't have any real effect other than a mental placebo. I read through Bible thoroughly nine or ten times throughout a couple years, but it only served to show me how similar it was to the other Abraham religions. I didn't like parts of the book and tried to find what verses lead to how different churches practiced belief in hopes of finding right one that was both backed with scripture and logical. After all that, I heard the word atheist being use in conversation, looked it up and realized I was one.

[@بنتاليوتيوبأستغفرالله]

thank you for answering .. personal experiences are so interesting to me.. i love to hear other people journey ... from what you wrote you seemed not once asked (God or the higher power if you want) to guide you .. why ? ..why did not you just give it a last call befor you became an atheist .. that should be in my opinion the first thing to do when you are in a journey to figure out God .. you dont go to religions to kow God ( there are so many) you seek God and he guide you to his religion *****

[@psilynt1]

After I started examining my own faith, I did pray many times for guidance. I did not receive any answers this way. I was open to accepting any response, any revelation which would confirm that my religion was right. Or even one where I was wrong and any other religion was right. Nothing. Pointing back to first post, I can still say I have no personal experience with God. I have experience with different relitions and their practitioners, but not with any God.

[@barrackdovahkhiin3394]

+psilynt1 perhaps you're not doing it properly?? have you ever always ask for forgiveness every each time you pray?

[@choduporki1194]

Read people vs muhammad too

[@louseveryann2181]

The "muslim" Albus Dumbledore.

[@bustervic]

We can remove the question with one task... provide proof there is a god. Only 1 god, pick one. I'll wait.

[@JP4truth]

Open your eyes and look around...

[@junkandgunk]

I can't prove true physical appearance of God, but God can reveal Himself. But it's only later you will regret about not believing in God.

[@mohamedameen396]

what is big bang? ????

[@Imrightyourewrong1]

Mohamed Ameen it's the scientific theory regarding how the universe expanded

[@secularvalue1114]

There is a GOD. Religion is however man made.

[@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl]

How to respond? don't quote your magic book as evidence.

[@MrDanAng1]

For this particular discussion I will concede a first cause and that the first cause is what we would call a god. It still doesn't really help your arguments. 28:37 And this is where not only Islam, but every religion fail. The creator of EVERYTHING must, by nescessity, be both the creator of THIS universe, AND humanity AND have a special care for humans, or the worship of the first cause god make absolutely no sense. Of course every intermediate step count. If there is a creator of a multiverse, and that creator make lesser gods that create individual universes, and in those universes some people simulate an universe in which we live, then we have absolutely no reason to think the "first cause" creator have any interest if you worship him or not. Compare it to a regular man, he have kids, those have some aquarium fishes and in the fridge they store some worms to feed the fish. Do you really think the father of the family care if the worms love hon or not? If they worship him or not? This is why the dishonest claim that any intermediate stages doesn't matter fail totally. Remember, I have only TWO intermediate steps in my example, and the assumption that humans worship of the "first cause" matter is already absurd.

[@junkandgunk]

God doesn't need our worship, but WE need to worship God if we want to be saved. Your own argument about God having interest His creations should worship Him is absurd.

[@shamsheerg7519]

What nonsense!

[@junkandgunk]

*Shamsheer G* is a nonsense

[@ahmedsadeek6760]

may allah bless you

[@zubairchohan392]

May Allah bless you... Where is haris sultan and galib kamal... Can you face Dr....

[@albertogutierrez341]

Islam made me be an atheist.

[@TheRNawfal]

Alberto Gutierrez ...islam is one God brother..no son no godess nothing except one God. repeat there is a one creator who made everything. this system can't be made out of nothing bro. it's very easy and simple

[@theatheistlegend7395]

Understanding religion will make you an atheist fast.

[@isemajic97]

I have many athiest friends. And they ask me good questions too. Thanks for the video

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

Shabir Ali lies about the Koran‘s view of the Bible. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ-zn4V9gLyhsJI What does the Quran really say about the Bible.. 🤔 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn7FkGCtq5Z-gs0

[@locksmithlocksmith7941]

Asalam Alikum, The Holy Quran has answers to everything. The Answer to the suffering is in chapter 21:35 "Every soul will taste death. And We test you with evil and with good as trial; and to Us you will be returned." [Quran 21:35]

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

Shabir Ali lies about the Koran‘s view of the Bible. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ-zn4V9gLyhsJI What does the Quran really say about the Bible.. 🤔 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn7FkGCtq5Z-gs0

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

The Koran says in 4:157, that God causes someone who looked like Jesus to die on the cross in his place, therefore tricking the apostles of Christ into thinking he was crucified. My question is: how can you escape the fact that the rise of Christianity to the largest religion in the world is ultimately the result of the divine action of Allah?

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

Muslim's believe the Bible is corrupted. Yet in Isa 40:22 and three other passages. (Prov 8:27; Amos 9:6 Job 26:10) it says the earth is round and not flat. Job 26:7 says the earth is free-floating in space: "he hangs the earth on nothing." Both these facts are scientifically accurate, and revealed in the Bible long before man discovered it for himself. My question is: Are these passages scientifically accurate corruption's?

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

Muslims claim, that a proof the Koran was from God, is that it contains scientifically accurate information about Embryology before man discovered it for himself. However, all the information in the Koran regarding Embryology is copied from three sources, 1. A Greek doctor named Galen, who lived of 150 AD. 2. A Jewish doctor named Samuel ha-Yehudi who lived 150 AD. 3. the Greek father of medicine Hippocrates who lived 400 BC. My question is: in light of the fact that all the information contained in the Koran was already in print by these three doctors, will you retract the argument on Embryology? If not, will you supply one detail revealed in the Koran about Embryology, that was not already revealed or that was new?

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

Muslims believe the word Allah was used by Jesus when he hung on the cross. The Bible records that Jesus said "Eli Eli lama sabachthani", but you say Jesus really cried out to Allah and said "Allah, Allah lama sabachthani" My question is: Would you please explain why you would use this argument when you don't believe Jesus ever hung on the cross? And second, since Jesus was quoting Ps 22:1 on the cross, isn't rather unlikely that both the Hebrew Old Testament and the Greek New Testament are wrong using Eli, a Hebrew word, rather than Allah, an arab word?

[@wassilykandinsky4616]

Wrong title: I must be: How to respond to a Non-Muslim as a Muslim.

[@scarfhs1]

As an atheist I don't have an argument against the existence of god, I simply don't have any reason to believe that god exists.

[@maxmudxareed1345]

HOW did you came into existence

[@scarfhs1]

Maxmud Xareed The short answer is from my parents having sex. If you mean how did life arise on the Earth or how did the universe come to be then I would say that I don't know. If you claim that either of these two things was the work of a god you will have to provide evidence to support that claim.

[@maxmudxareed1345]

Fred smith so if see a phone we should not assume it is designed or it has a creator if we don't see the maker of that phone .

[@scarfhs1]

Maxmud Xareed We should assume that a telephone has a designer and a creator because we know how phones are produced. The same does not apply to either life or the universe.

[@maxmudxareed1345]

fred smith We should assume that a telephone has a designer and a creator because we know how phones are produced do mean everybody is an electrical engineer ?

[@oumarsakho9769]

Alhamdulillâhi Rabbil âlamiin. Thank you Dr ALLY for sharing your knowledge with us. May ALLÂH SWT Protect Bless Help Guide and Grant all of us Jannah. Ameen Ameen Ameen Ameen Ameen Ameen

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

In several Suras the Qur'an confuses Mary the mother of Jesus [Miriam in Hebrew] with Miriam the sister of Aaron and Moses, and daughter of Amram which is about 1400 years off. At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!" -- Sura 19:27-28 And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ... -- Sura 66:12 I am aware what Muslims claim to be a solution to this problem. Yusuf Ali for example writes in his footnote 2481 commenting on the above verse: "Aaron the brother of Moses was the first in the line of Israelite priesthood. Mary and her cousin Elisabeth (mother of Yahya) came from a priestly family, and were therefore, 'sisters of Aaron' or daughter of `Imran (who was Aaron's father)." This is faulty reasoning. Only Aaron became a Priest of the Lord and in fact the first High Priest. And only Aaron's descendents became priests. Neither Moses nor their sister Miriam are ever understood to be in "priestly lineage." Amram is definitely not a priest. If Mary's lineage of being part of a priestly family should be stressed then necessarily she would have to be called a daughter of Aaron, since all of Israel's priests are descendants of Aaron, while his brother and sister are not counted among the priestly line. I do agree that "father", "daughter" and "sister" might be used sometimes rather losely and only indicate a "general family relationship." Therefore we have to carefully read in each mentioning to see what is meant. And the Qur'an makes clear that the narrow, physical meaning of daughter and (hence) sister is meant in this case as I will demonstrate below. Even if there were no concern about the issue of "priestly" but only such a wider family relationship was in view, why does the Qur'an not say "daughter of Aaron" who is her most famous forefather? Even though "sister" might be used in a wider meaning than a sister within the same immediate family, isn't it the use even in Islam that "brothers and sisters" live on roughly the same generational level (like cousins) while "father and daughter" signifies a generational difference between the two persons compared? Why are the wives of Muhammad not called the "sisters of the believers" but "the mothers of the believers"? [Today's believers! - Aisha certainly was not called the mother of 'Uthman, Umar, Abu Bakr and the other believers of Muhammad's life time.] For what reason call her sister of the famous Aaron (being 1400 years older than Mary) but daughter of `Imran (Bible: Amram) of whom we know nothing at all apart from the fact that his name is mentioned in the genealogical tables in Exodus 6 and 1 Chronicles 23? This is perfectly clear if the two Miriams were indeed confused. But the attempts of harmonization don't really sound very logical. The above points are just some "minor questions". The big problem is that the Qur'an is explicitely not talking about wider clan relationships as we see in the following verse. Behold! wife of `Imran said: "O my Lord! I do dedicate unto Thee what is in my womb for Thy special service ... When she was delivered, she said: "O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!" ... "... I have named her Mary ..." -- Sura 3:35-36 Muslims are usually very particular about whose wife a woman is and it is definitely not allowed that just anybody can have sex with a woman only because he is a "wider relative of hers." If Mary is the female child that came out of the womb of the wife of `Imran, then she is the direct daughter of `Imran and there is no question that the theory of "far descendency" is contradicted by the Qur'an itself. Yusuf Ali in his footnote 375 to Sura 3:35 even goes so far to invent (?) a second `Imran by claiming that "by tradition Mary's mother was called Hannah ... and her father was called `Imran," in order to somehow save the Qur'an from this contradiction. But the same tradition that calls Mary's mother Hanna, also gives the name of her husband as Joachim. Why would Y. Ali accept one part of this tradition (e.g. in the Proto-Evangelion of James the Lesser) and reject the other? Yusuf Ali does not give any reference for this "tradition" he refers to. Until I see any reference to that, there is no reason to accept this theory. As to my current knowledge there is no such tradition that predates Muhammad. Some Muslim commentators might have made something up later to explain this very problem, but such a late theory / "tradition" is not very credible. And a last question: Is there any other instance in the Qur'an where a person is consistently called daughter [son] or sister [brother] of people which are only wider relatives? Even if there was to be one name in the clan so overpowering that everybody is named in his or her relationship to that one person, it is doubly improbable that anybody would be named always after two distant relatives in the place of "father" and "brother", and never be mentioned in relationship to his or her real parents' or brothers' names. If this is the only instant then the Muslim explanation is even more strained since ad hoc explanations, i.e. explanations which serve no other purpose than to explain away this one problem but are not used anywhere else are not very credible. It does appear to be such an artificial reasoning in this case. And the fact that Aaron is indeed `Imran's son and this is a direct and correct genealogical relationship, also indicates that the rest is understood as daughter and sister in the normal everyday sense. Thomas Patrick Hughes in his "Dictionary of Islam", page 328, writes on this issue that "it is certainly a cause of some perplexity to the commentators. Al-Baidawi says she was called `sister of Aaron' because she was of Levitical race; but Husain says that the Aaron mentioned in the verse is not the same person as the brother of Moses." As always, conflicting explanations are evidence that there is indeed a problem and no one clear and satisfactory solution is available. Note: Moses and Aaron are called "Musa ibn `Imran" and "Harun ibn `Imran" in the Hadiths, just the same way as Mary is called "Maryam ibnat `Imran" in Sura 66:12. Further detailed discussion of this issue is found in Silas' article, Is Mary the Sister of Aaron? Sam Shamoun's article, Mary, the Mother of Jesus and Sister of Aaron provides further quotations from Muslim sources that shed more light on the issue.

[@houshangsarkesh]

Why there is a pain on earth??? Only because humans made pain not God, but God helps all times if you ask for it correctly but if not , we are very much deserve what we get , because we lie , we give riba, we eat meat and blood of animals we kill othet humans for power ,money , we don't stand for truth nor other humans that they are suffering right now in Yemen, Palestine, Afghanistan, Venezuela and Iraq we deserve what we have , and God almighty the most high naturally didn't give us no pain at all , sobhanallah alrahim

[@m402363]

wouldn't surprise me if paul was a jew and had the intention of destroying Jesus message from the beginning. why would Jesus come in pauls dream, who he never met. why not in other disciples dreams who he knew.

[@houshangsarkesh]

Brother dr ally . I have good question i dont think you could answer? Why the world view of Quran and bible is geosenteric but new science say the earth is not the center at all ? What about firnement??? Pls look at Quran and bible and answer me please , I am Muslim and I have answer for it , I don't let new science muck our book or our religion.

[@nazeemsultan123]

Huh?

[@houshangsarkesh]

@@nazeemsultan123 🤧

[@houshangsarkesh]

@Sufiyan Khan you can't not care about the Bible although I prefer the holy Quran .surat qaf . 50 :7-8

[@houshangsarkesh]

@Sufiyan Khan open your eyes and search about it after this I won't answer if you a true Muslim. You should have find the truth your self

[@talktomeaboutlife]

In response to the accusation of secularity re the "We should only believe things that we can prove", I would simply ask these questions. "Do you think there are things (ideas, thoughts, perspectives) that are true and things that are false?" "If agreed, is it preferable to believe true things, is it preferable to believe false things, or does it not matter?" "If you answer affirmatively to either the first or second options, how do we assess the differnece between false things and true things?"

[@papackar]

Why are questions of 'belief" always presented (in Islam or Christianity) as binary? Why must it be "yes, I believe X", or "no, I do not believe X"? Is it not more honest and accurate to say that, first of all "I do not know if X is true", and secondly, "my belief falls an a spectrum.... I think that X is 10, 20, 30 or 90 percent probable (as the case may be)"? Just tell the truth people. You don't have to PRETEND belief! Am I mistaken? Please address this sir!

[@junkandgunk]

more like you have to address yourself. If God confirms that there are only 2 ways, then you can't take away or add anything on it. It's like your statement about binary itself, you can't add 2, 3, 4, 5 or so on into binary, it ONLY consists of 0 and 1.

[@kkocicakk]

You hold a belief for no reason at all, but when someone tells you you have no reason to believe, you ask them for proof? For proof of what exactly? For your position that you actually have no reason? How do you think it works? Don't you understand the burden of proof lies on the possitive claim?

[@junkandgunk]

No we're not. We don't believe in God "just because......." that's stupid in and on itself. we believe in God because we know that He's our Creator, and that we should respect and obey His Rules, do His Commands, and therefore believe about His Promise that we shall be rewarded for our good deeds and be punished for our sins.

[@XX-tq1oe]

Shabir no one reads books

[@FruityFarterSG]

I don't agree with his statements about multiple universe and other lives etc that is confusing and not much logical

[@One-rr8um]

He didn't present them as an argument. He summarized his argument at the end. The so called parallel universe theory was simply brought to explain possible cases. Not as a fact or argument.

[@blairfranklin7320]

He makes no sense what so ever. He needs to stick to debating other theist.

[@paullafemina8260]

Blair Franklin that is what i thought

[@Taisepower]

Still I am Atheist... After watching this video. And again like other days many questions pop up in my mind.

[@louseveryann2181]

"The _problem_ of Atheism"?.... And once again the "gods-believer" living in 1000 shows he does not know what Atheism is.

[@One-rr8um]

Problem of atheism is atheism can't offer any optimistic hope to the society. It gradually leads to nihilism.

[@onlynow8386]

we don't no this so it's obviously created by unicorns.

[@lemke]

As an ex-atheist, I cannot say his arguments were very good.

[@Tenzek]

Do you mind if I ask what kind of god it was that you got convinced of, and how that happened?

[@lemke]

I read the Simulation Argument, a very short paper, easy to find on Google, that talks about the possibility that our universe is a simulation. The paper itself does not touch on the subject of God, but after reading it, I think it is more possible than not that our universe was created by a sentient being. Though it is not a "traditional god" belief, I cannot call myself an atheist anymore.

[@Tenzek]

lemke So you're a deist of sorts. I have not read the paper, but I have an idea of what it might say as I have studied physics. If this is all just a program, though, the programmer isn't exempt from needing to be explained.

[@CatGuy969]

Hello lemke, would you mind giving me your kik if you have one? I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you may have :)

[@Cha4k]

The simulation argument seems so pointless to me. Its an unprovable idea that would have zero affect on us and how we live our lives even if we could prove it true or false. We'd still be trapped here, We could do nothing about it, We'd still have all the same challenges in order to survive. And it still wouldn't shed any light on what exists beyond the simulation. True or false it changes nothing so why bother? Its an interesting idea and thats all. I'll push it aside until it has something to it.

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

The British Museum in London has an ancient copy of the Koran written in the Ma'il style of script, but practicing Muslim scholar Martin Lings, who is the former curator for the manuscripts of the British Museum, dates this manuscript at 790 AD. My question is: Apart from just making the claim, what evidence do you supply that this MSS were written any earlier?

[@XX-tq1oe]

10 : 56 thr the dumbest point ever

[@yusufkidwai]

The extent to which a believer is willing to go to defend their god is shocking. Confirmation bias has a strong presence, even in very intelligent people. Keeping using that crutch.

[@JP4truth]

Billions of people believe in God world-wide...deal with it. Atheists of your ilk can't even get enough of their lazy, white, unwashed, unshaven, long-haired adherents away from their adolescent video games long enough to hold a conference: www.smh.com.au/opinion/cancellation-of-atheist-shindig-is-a-disappointment-to-me--seriously-20171108-gzh3vh.html www.atheismandthecity.com/2018/01/the-atheist-conference-is-dead.html

[@sevenbones]

my first question i ask the athiest is why do you wear clothes as wearing clothes is religious ?? hihihihihihih...

[@sevenbones]

***** wearing clothes is not religous then what is modesty for ??? modesty is taught by religion ...!! any one who is not religious or does not belong to any religion(athiest) should be naked like animal ...!

[@thomasrabaut2461]

+Khaja uddin dressing with modesty has nothing to do with religion. pagans did not use to be naked. who told you that whoever dress follow religion

[@sevenbones]

even pagan had faith ..! anything with has faith is religious .. *****

[@thomasrabaut2461]

+Khaja uddin pagan used to make their own god. it is illogical to say dressing is religious order.according to social science ancient human made dress for them. it has nothing to do with religion

[@sevenbones]

Amimul Islam so you agreed pagan had god , ..! so its relgious even though you and i think and know they were man made gods..!