How To Sand "Bondo" - Air Files and D/A Sanders

[@josephboudreaux5312]

Very nice and non biased real world breakdown/tutorial. Great job

[@seanhobbs1989]

I've made it 8:53 and had to pause and subscribe this guy is 10000% right and knows his stuff

[@davelewis2174]

My Dad stoped by one day to help sand . He tryed my New dynabrade DA sander and said he liked it alot and was keeping it He did keep it and i had to buy another one . He's in his mid 80's now still doing body work .

[@charlesmiller7861]

What a great Idea !!, cant wait to go visit my Son, he has alot of nice tools I could use.

[@mattfoley4128]

Thanks for being the greatest instructor/teacher on youtube. No shortcuts, no spraying sunshine, just real facts. Thank you for being my friend , PETE!!!👏👏

[@rondellschuyler7074]

Viking and Hutchins are legendary professional air tools. Good quality air tools oiled and maintained properly will Last 25 to 30 years.

[@cygnus1965]

I had a 30 year old Central pneumatic air file and it was still working great until I lost everything in a fire. I’d buy another If I thought it was still made as good. But will have to spend a bit more since nothing is made Like it used to be.

[@twodogsanme]

pete , i had one of those D A long throw air sanders for years and have used on and off and has never let me down

[@HelveteKommer]

Thanks again, Pete, for another informative tutorial. Your videos really help me as someone who started in the trade in my later years. It's a big help to me and I hope to learn a great deal more from you.

[@ajsaltv4481]

I'm going to be in the market for one of those sanders . Thank you for the info Pete!!

[@junksautomotive]

I bought the Harbor freight air file to do my Cadillac thinkin it was the only car id do.... bearly lasted the project. Broke right at the end. So, i bought a Viking air file for the 57 im doing. I know how much now i enjoy doing bodywork. I need to upgrade my DA still. Its something ill do into my retirement... ill buy tools that will last that long. Good video Pete!

[@chriscorum1268]

Viking air file leads my Arsenal I have had it since 95 and I got it used. I have never had a problem with it.

[@shaunnormancroft]

totally agree with you Pete there is the old saying don't blame the tools it's the man behind them, nope the better the tools the better the job I started my own body shop a few years back and never took any profit out of it I just bought better tools and spray guns, etc better materials welders spot pullers, etc I won't buy cheap but a few years down the line I do classic restoration and everyday jobs and never advertised I am always months booked up with work too much sometimes but love doing a job properly and getting a name for myself.

[@JoseAlvarez-lk9tu]

Thanks for the knowledge Very much appreciated

[@jraposo911]

Love your videos Pete! 😊JR in 🇨🇦

[@mikerucko6546]

i have an Ingersoll Rand air file & it works great.

[@mikerucko6546]

i paid about 100 bucks, new. I'm using it for 1 car & 1 car only. then I'll sell it.

[@jaisonbadillo5139]

Thank you Pete for sharing your knowledge!! I own an old Ingersoll rand air file It works well.

[@joegasparro2395]

Uncle Pete, what about us DIY-ers who aren't using air tools, dont have a compressor, and who live in the year 2021....and who are just new to the world and are buying all electric battery operated cordless stuff....like a Dewalt or Milwaukee or Makita....can help us figure out what we need to buy in that arena please?!

[@josephfilm73]

Electric wears out fast. Find a good compressor. They can be found second hand and don't have to take up a lot of space. Just make sure you have a 220 line. If you are going to do jobs, it is worth having. Remember you time is also worth something. If you can use the compressor to spray 2k primer vs buying it in cans, you'll save money. Fill up air in tires, blow out all the crud before spraying, using air to cool welds. Tons of uses..

[@cygnus1965]

I have a Bauer 20v 5” DA and it’s been great. I have put 100 hours on it so far at minimum and it Hasn’t skipped a beat. I still use a $40 HF air DA also. It’s been unstoppable also. Maybe I’m just lucky though. Not!

[@thomassmith9840]

I know that this video is older but I hope that you can answer this question. Will I need the 8 inch Mud Hog/da or the 6 inch by detroit

[@TonyGingrich]

Still in-process of my first automotive paint job ever... Hat's off to the professionals! It's not just the tool. No matter how good or correct the power tool; when it comes to sanding, you either have the experience to know how to use the tool, or you FK up and have to redo everything. I'm still at level "hand-sand everything".

[@Arnoldzesati889]

Great information Pete! How about the compressor, will a 60 gal. Regular compresor work?

[@showmethedammovie]

Awesome pete. Wish i had a compressor to get started

[@davidcontreraz8083]

Just had to replace a 20 year ingersoll rand....I went with a mac tools file,hope it last as long

[@smokeshow973]

Awsome info u are the man when it comes to the truth I have a question on the viking I went on ebay and theirs so many Vikings and prices and single piston and dual piston

[@TheLargino]

Go for the dual piston inline sander instead of a single piston. The dual piston sander has power available for each direction of the pad stroke and the single piston is powered in 1 direction and relies on a spring to pull the pad back against the piston.

[@deankay4434]

I would always go for the dual piston “Viking” air file. Sir, you are correct! Hi-OOH! Well Ed, I did not know if that was a dual piston Viking air file in your pocket, or you were just happy to see me!

[@dougbaker9473]

Are Hutchins air files any good ? That's what I bought a few years ago .

[@matthewblank214]

The guy is correct, if your doing this type of work, you need the right tools, patience and develop a feel over time

[@DS-iq1lz]

Keep rocking

[@markjewell2821]

Happy Fri-day from Sioux Falls South Dakota!

[@GreaseMonkey1958]

Just purchased a Viking Air File at a Pawn Shop for $20.00 untested with a guarantee that it works or money back. Needs a Pad but a deal so good just couldn't be passed up.

[@OEMPlus]

if my cobra wasn't co curvy for an airfile in 98% of situations otherwise i'd definitely be picking something like this up. im sure i'll need this info in the future someday. as always, thanks pete!

[@williisaias]

I think Hutchins have te same quality sander but very expensive too 👍 and USA made also

[@robyoung5162]

I have a dynabrade 6 inch gear driven that I use for all my rough in work it get it really straight

[@marvincompton7368]

Thank you for the info Pete!

[@mikeaze423]

Is the Baxter brand from Harbor Frieght any good I believe they are around 130$

[@diyautoschool]

Im going to do a review on those in an upcoming video! stay tuned

[@20somthingrealestate]

Doesn't the oil hole lube the chassis instead of the air motor?

[@GregsGarage]

Now I gotta go look at my air file... I thought it was a Hutchins, but it looks just like your Viking... It's an expensive one, and it is worth its weight in gold. I'll also co-sign on Dynabrade. I've got a handful of their air tools for finishing metal (not just body work) and they are 10x better than the crap you buy at the box stores... I'm digging the Mr. Blue Roads commercial.

[@christopher6337]

You prefer a rotary motor straight line over a Hutchins piston driven? Out of your mind.

[@christopher6337]

Also you’ve had your Hutchins for 30 years (looks rough condition too) and you say it’s not going to last forever? Come on man.

[@lawncuttingplusdelta]

hi from your Friend paul in Canada

[@TheCypressbill]

Hey MFP love your serious videos almost as much as i love your fun videos. Keep up the great work

[@hazelwoodgarage]

I use a electric da I bought at harbor freight, I like them because it’s less wear and tear on the air compressor, doesn’t get air in the lines etc, it is way heavier than a air powered one though

[@Titans2138]

same, I don't like running my compressors constantly unless I have to, like for painting. I have two craftsman 8.4 scfm 30 gallon compressors that I connect together. As long as you set the regulators to the same psi it works perfectly with no need for a check valve. All info I found says you need a check valve so I bought a couple but I couldn't paint with those thing connected, it drastically reduced air flow in my system and then I realized that they're are completely unnecessary. If the regulators are set at different psi then yeah air will leak out of the lower psi regulator but if you match them, no problems. Idk why I said all that but yeah, I use a 7.5 long throw Bauer da polisher/sander and a little tacklife random orbital sander(da sander) that has a short throw for finish sanding or finer sanding. I'm sure the air tools are better but air compressors are so loud and I want them to last as long as possible.

[@donaldbaker6961]

Thank you Pete very informative 😊

[@duster71]

Doing prep work the short throw is my most important tool besides my air blower.

[@adamjohnson1502]

I was wondering, how do you feel about the Viking air file and never used one… wish you would’ve stated how you like using it and your thoughts on the Viking air file… watch the whole damn video and ya never got around to telling us. Damnit man !

[@Tcamp95818]

You are gifted that car was shit when you got it. Now look how straight those lines are great job.

[@freshlystealthy45]

Pete my friend Pete ur friend Pete no lie I fukkn died @ exactly 12:14.....😭🤣💀

[@bambam2126]

If this was the 80’s or 90’s you would need those sanders. The only one needed now is the finishing DA. We not using those sanders in production shops pushing out 10 to 20 cars a week!

[@glennrubel4326]

Very interesting. What do you mean by the term production?

[@josephfilm73]

more than one car on a schedule

[@garethsmith6341]

How's it hanging my friend!

[@jasonperret4392]

good detailed information, thank you pete

[@josephmartinez8803]

Bondo, James Bondo!

[@deankay4434]

I will have my Bondo shaken, not stirred!

[@josephmartinez8803]

@@deankay4434 🤣👍

[@rosewd2]

I need an air file that works so im going to get the victory. Now i did get a harbor freight air angle die grinder, chief" brand for use with rololock discs. That does work well, and for 49$ if it dies i can just get another one. Some of their tools do actually work 😂

[@aarondalton2223]

Pete, my local auto body supply store carries Ingersol Rand, any good?

[@deankay4434]

Arand, not sure who own the company anymore. It could be like “Bell & Howell” sunglasses to bug zappers, but wait, pay $19.95 and we will throw in this perfectly balance inline dual piston air file! (Some assembly required, batteries not included, warranty expires if the package is opened)

[@Titans2138]

It's actually called polyester body filler, not Bondo. Bondo is a brand. Just kidding Pete, it's nice to see you doing DIY Auto School type videos. I'm sure these kinds of videos are your more popular videos. It's why I started watching you. Keep it up Pete. I wish someone would do a video comparing body fillers. I think that would be a popular video but it would be expensive to buy rage ultra and rage gold and upol filler, 3M filler, bondo, evercoat polyester filler just to make a video. I've been trying to get Project Farm to do something but he's not an expert in doing body work like you are.

[@randymcqueen3030]

Hay Pete.Love your Vids man.Like to see a video on different kinds of paint.Like lacquer (l have used and like) and so on.what to use in what situatio,how to lay it down.

[@petergoodwin2465]

Was very lucky to Find a very old Chicago pneumatic airfile from the USA. Does a great job like all USA stuff.

[@duster71]

Pete you know you need a die grinder for cut off wheels and a right angle die grinder for roloc discs.The Hutchinson air file is much more expensive than the Viking and a bit heavier.Dynabrade DAs are excellent especially the 3/32 finishing one which I think is number 21035 but I was looking at buying another when and they redesigned them and changed the color from red to blue.Google would come up with the old number,but Dynabraid are extremely light and never leave cornrows,they are about $175-200.After 20 years of complete restos I'm doing prep work for the painter.My Lyme has made me not want to paint because it effects my eyes too much and I don't like blending metallics even thought I have no problem,I also don't like spraying the medium solid clears,I'm so us to the old DuPont 9700 overall clear.I don't like spraying that Transtar shit.

[@mikerucko6546]

beware when you buy dura blocks, I bought a set & found out 1 of the blocks is actually a fucking bar of soap. who the fuck does that?

[@flippedout]

Buy once cry once. So true.

[@dw2769]

Wish they had An Electric Air File

[@BlacharzOstatniejSzansy]

They do. Check rupes brand

[@paulreithknecht5616]

👍

[@duster71]

Yes the Hutchinson air file does not cut like the Viking it is heavy and is a better finishing air file. Long throws are 3/16 and the finishing da is 3/32.

[@bigblocklawyer]

I've used Hustlers for years but new filler, like Rage Ultra, sands so easily, I haven't used air files in 3 years. Why beat the piss out of panels with an air file when you can hand shape filler with a yellow 3M long board and purple paper in less time and with a bunch less wear and tear on your elbows and shoulders. Funny, I was going through my storage unit yesterday and came across my last Hustler. I thought to myself if I could get a couple bucks for it, I'd sell it.

[@bertalert341]

great stuff

[@eddiebarrera469]

We have to stay motivated,no matter how dier the situation might seem to be,think limpy hung up his shoes on this stuff,tried but failed.

[@jimclarke1108]

Hi . from Australia. Oi oi oi

[@slavkoprkusic35]

Hi pete minnie

[@sheilacantrell2550]

#1 cheese grader

[@jcfireman2215]

When a guy buy cheap junk you end up with junk.

[@rosewd2]

Hey pete, thangs for the tge tool brands to buy. I was tempted by tge cheap harbor freight air file and da sander. What total junk. No power air all they just stall out, almost useless. Maybe with 100grit on the air file its a finish too, but i doubt it. I had plenty of air with a 60gal compressor and high flow fittings, but these harbor freight tools just sucked !

[@Mikegastaldo]

My finish bodywork technique is second to none.I get way better results than you Pete allow me to let you in on a little secret...first I replace any panels.. second I do any welding /grinding ...third I apply Bondo to all imperfect areas.. fourth I bring in a few amigos to sand there ass off for a few burritos....and call me when it's ready for paint

[@alcerz984]

Thats just racist

[@Mikegastaldo]

@@alcerz984 nah ...racist is when you won't hire em..rent to em..date em..you move far away to get away from em..that's racist..I'm not moving..I got great amigos as tenants...I employ em...I got latina girlfriends...see that's what happens when the government leaves the border open..1 guy 1 job he gets paid well..1000 guys competing for 1 job..well he gets paid a burrito..talk to the government not me.

[@Mikegastaldo]

@@alcerz984 tell you another thing..I sure hope your not complaining about inflation/high food cost/high housing cost etc.. because the government has already done all they can to help you by opening the border...they knowingly /intentionally flooded the united states with uneducated/desperate/exploitable labor and understand that anyone who's smart will use this human resource to build wealth...are you smart?

[@karsbkool]

National-Detroit invented the "DA" sander. Dual Action refers to the ability to be used as an orbital sander, or with the pad locked to be used as a rotary sander. With the pad locked you can perform the fastest bondo rough-in humanly possible. The 11" Mini-Vike is more versatile than the full size Viking Air file, being much easier to control over varied body shapes. Lastly, you should not run an air file at the "carpal tunnel" speed heard at the beginning of the video, for the obvious stated reason. I'm just sayin'

[@christopher6337]

No they didn’t