How to service your BSR record changer - basic services only

This is the basic service necessary to get your BSR turntable mechanism running

[@coreyfellows9420]

Hey bud.. I have now got 2 fully functioning bsr tables because of your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your information. I followed step by step and nailed it!

[@dragonladycrafts]

Thanks for this video. I had one that was seized up, but once I got the turn table moving, the center metal piece wanted to move no matter how much heat I put to it. I used quarters around it and increased the stack of them a little art a time, and when I got to 8 stacks off 5 quarters each, when I applied heat, the turn table finally came off. All of the other steps in your video helped me get it running again. Thanks.

[@VintageGearMan]

Update: BSR A27 turntable. I discovered my platter is a steel 7" platter and not and 8" Very happy about that! The rubber mat will carefully separate from the steel platter towards the middle of the platter and carefully not bending the BSR aluminum center badge. Once I did this there was in fact an E-clip holding the platter in place. The rest is history. I was starting to get some wow in speed. Most noticeable on slower piano music. Anyway's, I serviced all under the platter as in this vid and now she sounds excellent! Glad I figured out how to get the platter off. Again mine was not stuck at all. P.S. I "did not remove" the original adhesive between the rubber mat and the steel platter. I simple pressed it it back on evenly and all is great! Again this was the 1970 Panasonic RD-7673,,,,,BSR A27 compact turntable. I very much hope this helped someone also. Love music!

[@museik1028]

REALLY thank you very much!!! Saved me a lot of troubles!

[@joemalone3099]

Man!!!! Even with one hand he made it look like a piece of cake...u don't realize how hard and complicated those mecanismes are until u start working on one..HE is a PRO and a really good one to make look so easy

[@amcdlm24]

Loved your clear and instructive video...I followed it and got the BSR TT on a KH5511 loose and working, just waiting on a stylus to try it out. The system hums quite a bit...any recommendation as to grounding? The back of the cabinet has a place to attach a ground wire, but the system itself did not include a ground wire. Again, thanks for this and your other great videos!!!

[@JordanPier]

The ground connection is only for other accessories. It really should be labeled chassis. Its purpose is to unify other accessories' chassis with the main system If there is excess hum it could be a variety of things from power supply, wiring, to a defective cartridge. You can run a wire from that ground connection and touch something metal on the turntable to see if the hum goes away. If it does, then something that is supposed to ground the turntable chassis to the main chassis has failed. You can wrap a wire around a turntable chassis screw and then again to a main chassis screw inside the unit if you don't have thr tools or ability to solder.

[@amcdlm24]

@@JordanPier You are awesome...thank you for the detailed response, I will try that!

[@sevenwind]

Thanks! I just acquired a BSR player that was spinning fast. I followed your cleaning with the wheel and removed the grease and put new on grease. It's like magic. I truly appreciate your video and more amazed you did this with one hand.

[@cjay2]

Hehe, I fixed these in the 70's when they were new, because they occasionally would freeze even that early in their lives. I kept a small bowl filled with a degreasing solvent to dump the center bearing parts into for an hour or so, to dissolve the lube. I used either hard plastic or wooden tools to scrape off old grease, along with q-tips soaked in the solvent, to avoid scratching the surfaces of the various parts (pins, levers,etc). Cotton rags and spray solvents were used to finish-off all cleaned points, and then when the entire mechanism was degreased and clean, good old GC Phonolube was used to re-lube every point, except the parts in the end-of-record trip sensor and its associated rod. Those were always left dry and clean. I never used acetone because it and its vapors are carcenogenic. I usually used isopropyl alcohol 99%, but there were a couple of flouro-based solvents available back then, which were also dangerous, but they worked very well for the final degreasing of an operating point. Usually sprayed those outside and very sparingly. Great use of the soldering gun and heat gun there. I never had to go that far back then. I used 4 hardwood blocks to support the inverted turntable on the bench, to avoid putting any pressure on the tone-arm. That's about all the tips I can remember - it's been since the 80s since I stopped doing commercial repairs. Thanks for the video!

[@michaellominski1877]

Hey can you get a hold of me i have a record changer i cant identify

[@monkeytail2002]

Any tips for a BSR Monarch from the 50's? The 45 rpm and 78rpm speed works but the 33rpm doesn't.

[@elreystyles1]

Acetone is definitely not carcinogenic. Its produced in our bodies as a part of normal metabolism and is in fact so safe that it is exempt from VOC status. Halogenated solvents, which used to be very commonly used to clean electronics, are carcinogenic and have been phased out because of health concerns. That said it’s probably a good idea to avoid using acetone on older audio equipment because it can often dissolve or damage plastics. Isopropyl alcohol is usually the best first choice for this kind of work.

[@justsumguy2u]

I consider this video (and your VM series videos) to be an invaluable resource. There are many thousands of BSR's still out there, and I'm sure this video will help many. Great job! Oh, and very interesting about the 1000-grit sandpaper on the idler wheel---I never thought about that, and I've got a VM that would benefit from that. It's not completely hard, it's just starting to get a little stiff and "greasy" if you will

[@cjay2]

Jordan, a tripod will allow you to place the cam/phone somewhere and work with 2 hands. Just sayin'. There are small desktop smartphone tripods available too.

[@areeko]

But he only has 1 hand

[@justsumguy2u]

Oh, and as an aside---I'm impressed that you work in an electronics repair shop. In today's throw-away society, repair shops are starting to become a thing of the past---I think it's great that guys like you are still out there, because you're needed

[@clubmidnightsun]

I haven't even finished this vid and I am in awe. I have been passionate about recorder changers since I was a kid. You have changed my life. I want to start restoring record changers. I hope I can have contact with you.

[@Matrix803]

Working on a Zenith JR596W turntable currently. I've looked at a bunch of these repair videos last night and today. Tried the soldering iron trick, tried tapping the center spindle with a heavy screwdriver a couple times, tried 3-in-1 oil yesterday, let it sit overnight, tried it again today. Held the soldering iron in the center hole for nearly 10 minutes. Even after all that, the turntable will just simply not come off at all (though it's doing full 360 rotations, whereas before the turntable itself was literally stuck in place). My fingers are all chapped now from continuously pulling up on the edge of that metal platter, lol. I feel kinda discouraged, like this thing is never going to get fixed. One interesting thing to note about these turntables is, if you spin it manually with your hand and flick the auto switch, you can actually see the tonearm mechanism go through its motions and place itself on the record, return to its holder, etc.

[@laumeconroy4761]

Thanks so much for the vid. Could not have got it running again without this.

[@robinread2250]

That was fantastic, thanks for taking the time to show that process, much appreciated.

[@Rebel9668]

Lacquer thinner will dissolve that grease faster than you can say ticonderoga...if you can say ticonderoga :)

[@stevenschultz321]

Great video as always JP. One note, after cleaning and oiling the star wheel it wouldn’t always move the tone arm over at the start so I cleaned it again an reinstalled it without oil and it works fine now.

[@ericdzenis2786]

So, I was able to loosen the stop/start/auto function! But now I suspect there is an electrical issue w/ the motor beneath the wheel. The wheel moves freely (not frozen up) Plugged in, lights on, but wheel doesn’t move when switched to “start”. Any possible solutions?

[@JordanPier]

Pivot bearing is sticky. Unscrew the shaft on the idler arm enough to get the idler arm out,clean and oil, screw back in, then move the selector to on and adjust the screw so that the idler touches about mid point on whatever speed tier is selected.

[@larryshaver3568]

I just bought a bsr turntable probably one of the last 4 speed models and did what you're doing and it now works great

[@markyastion3860]

Me too got one from my grandparents and sounds great. Surprised I thought it would sound awful

[@olgierdoszmianski2992]

Perfec tutorial. Without it I would ruin my Sony HP-319 with it’s BSR R141. Bought it as not working second hand. I could move none of its parts. Spinning now, speed selector works, start/stop also. I do not have any spindle to test (both missing). On an old record I can hear some strange noises. Hard to center the record. Not sure if cartridge is ok. I hope you continue what you are doing. Thanks for the video!

[@cortez6621]

I'm working on a unit right now that was originally locked up. I've gotten it freed, but at the end of play the arm resets to the middle of the album and replays it. Do you know what might cause that?

[@christophwjones]

Jordan, thank you for these videos. As a novice who is teaching himself to service old stereos, these videos on cheaper tables are perfect. Also, the tracking for comment made me laugh hard.

[@MichaelBeeny]

These decks were classed as budget turntables in there day. We would sell them with either a Goldring G800 or a Shure M75/6 Both being a conical type stylus tracking at about 2.5 grams. The Shure being the better sounding but did cost a little more (in UK) You would always get the idiot that would claim to track at 1 gram but like you, I've never found this possible. A good way to prove the point is to watch the stylus near the end of the disc, you will see the stylus move but the arm will not. Might even jump. These tables also do not like a very high compliance stylus like Shure M75/ED the arm has too much mass and can be a little tight, even when new!!

[@Rebel9668]

Low end or not, they're still a whole lot more desirable than modern Crosley crap. :)

[@williamallen6310]

THEIR day....man.

[@MichaelBeeny]

@@Rebel9668 A banana is better than a Crossley!

[@Rebel9668]

@@MichaelBeeny My BSR isn't exactly low end either. It was made in 1968 and has a metal plinth and metal platter and and came with a Pickering V-15 moving magnet cartridge and I bought 2 NOS Pickering styli for it so that I can play modern albums and old shellac 78's on it. The turntable was made to be an integrated part of one of my vintage stereos, my USA made "The Fisher 125". Altogether the receiver/turntable combo has a great sound. The caps and resistors in the amp have all been replaced and I cleaned out all the old grease from the turntable's mechanisms by dissolving it with lacquer thinner, got the platter and switches all freed up and then re-lubed some areas with Singer sewing machine grease and others with a drop or two of Singer sewing machine oil. I had to adjust a screw under the tonearm so that it would drop the needle in the proper place as at first it was dropping about an eighth of an inch prematurely and the needle missing the record entirely. The idler wheel is original and still very soft and pliable and everything works like new. Not too shabby for a 54 year old set.

[@MichaelBeeny]

@@Rebel9668 Hi Rebel, I understand exactly what you are saying. I was in retail in that area. Most people had HiFi of one kind or another. Budget TT were (in the UK) Garrard and BSR. Classed as entry level. The next level were TTs like the Pioneer PL12D, sold hundreds of them. By todays standards I can understand why you would think the BSRs were good. With junk like Crossley and plastic platters and tone arms. These really are todays junk. In comparison you do have a quality piece of kit.

[@gns423]

Great video as always. I’ve picked up a couple of these on eBay and I noticed that they play quite fast ( a common problem with these ), so I sanded the shaft slightly for the 33 and 45 positions and it worked great. Time consuming because you have to keep checking it with a strobe disc as you go, but well worth it.

[@patrickmcgivern9686]

I have the same problem, 33 too fast...45s perfect. As a complete novice..what shaft are you referring to. Do you mean the central metal shaft or some other shaft nearer the speed shift mechanism?

[@gns423]

@@patrickmcgivern9686 Yes it is the shaft that spins the idler wheel. It is a tedious job, as you have to keep replacing the platter to check the speed with a strobe disc and a UV light. The 33 spot on the shaft is the very top one, with the smallest circumference. Check it often, because if you take too much off, it will rotate too slowly. You can use a file or Emory cloth/tape. Good luck!

[@joerosen5464]

​@@gns423 A "UV" light to check speed with a strobe disc??? Does that even work??? You need any old light source that works off the mains (120VAC/60Hz in North America) which has a low thermal inertia (heats up & cools down real quick). The lower the thermal inertia, the more noticeable they'll flicker in sync with the 60c/s mains frequency. If you're old enough to remember how annoying fluorescent lamps are for flickering, they'll put a big smile on your face in this application! Anything with a neon bulb bright enough (or turn your room lighting down) also works a treat. Even LED bulbs work, but I find them the hardest to see with of these 3 types. If you're a 70's Head like I am, you do have UV light sources for your trippy poster collection. We referred to them as "Black Lights" because the very dark & kind of heavy emissive coating doesn't let alot of visible light through. Most of 'em were incandescent A19 style screw-in bulbs, & incandescent bulbs are useless with strobe discs, UV Blacklights or not! I DO have a couple of 18" flourescent fixtures with Blacklight tubes for them, but I think they'd still be less than ideal since their visible spectrum light output is so feeble. But if you weren't confusing flourescent tubes by calling them UV ones, then I suppose I ought to see how they work if only for 💩s & giggles, & perhaps report back to y'all...🧐

[@BMchange]

You are the best Jordan!!! I was looking everywhere for a guide for my Sony HP-161 and came across your video. My records have never sounded so good and smooth. All the features now work on my old girl and she is singing again. You're providing a very valuable service. Thanks again!

[@rogerlipera3248]

I used your info here to rehab a Zenith C587 unit with a BSR turntable. It had not been used in a couple of decades. It now works great! Thanks!!!

[@joerosen5464]

A very helpful & valuable video Waltz through the mechanical horror known as the "Auto-Changer"🤮🙄 Not sure how applicable all your tips with this model (I think you should have at least mentioned its number🤷) are for my spiffier Model #0973, which is a whole lot more Hi-Fi looking than the rather nasty piece of work shown here, being a Single-Play Fool Automatic job with a shiny S-shaped arm & an actual ADJUSTABLE counterweight!😲🤯 I just picked up this turdtable recently to gift to a friend (we'll just have to see if that changes after I give it to him🤔), & another found your vid & sent me the link to it. I have yet to dig into mine, & my issues with it are different than the ones shown here; albeit I do think that after 45 years or so it at least needs to be dismantled & re-lubed!😜 Still, right off the bat your video was a great help to me. Someone sold me their DUAL idler-puck collection, but there was one oddball amongst them I didn't recognize. And when you lifted off the platter of the star of your show...BINGO!😎 I also appreciated the tip to use GC Phonolube as a preferred grease. I know all the various grades & types of oil I need to service turntables, but the grease thing bugged me. Thanks for the recommendation! Something I can readily find in North America, thank Gob! I'll also give your #1000 grit sandpaper idler wheel trick a try. Nice tip! Something that actually will work! Unlike trying to use MG Chemicals "Rubber Renue" to soften idler pucks gone hard & therefore noisy, which NEVER works!!😡🤬 Also got a kick at you restraining yourself from swearing whilst you worked😅. I know. I feel your pain. In the arse! 😏 My BSR Model 0973 is very minty, which is why I bothered to purchase it at all. I'd never seen a BSR with such great aspirations at trying to pass itself off as a "true" component HiFi job; but then a couple of months later I had a golden (leaden?🤨) opportunity to purchase an ADC Accutrash 4000. Let's refresh your memories here: It's an unusually large beast with an excellent DIRECT DRIVE servo motor (-38db UNweighted rumble, 0.03% claimed W&F, 0.06% measured...), a sprung subchassis, MADE OF REAL WOOD too🧐!, an even spiffier statically-balanced S-shaped tonearm than the 0973 (for starters, the slots in the METAL headshell that allow you to adjust the offset & overhang of the magnetic cartridge are actually REAL, not merely embossed onto a molded plastic POS excuse for a headshell!🙄), & if this revolutionary (& many would say: Gimmicky!) turntable doesn't ring any bells for you, it is a fool automatic beyond your wildest dreams! A row of no less than TWENTY-THREE 🤯 identical white pushbuttons, AND 4 spiffy silver knobs to boot, grace a front lip beyond the reach of the dustcover!!! ADC came up with a slogan for it that some of you may remember: "Its Mother is a turntable. Its Father is a computer!" I leave an unwritten tag line of mine to complete the slogan: "It's a real bastard!"😅 It has a chunky remote control, which sends ULTRASONIC signals to the WIRED (but thankfully detachable!) remote receiver; a shiny silver ball that looks suspiciously like a little Van De Graaf generator.😲 The Engineers had the good sense to put a bright red LED on the front of it to confirm that the table received a command. Good thing too, given the latency of the turntable's response! The piece of resistance was the spe-cial ADC cartridge that's integral to its design. It was basically an XLM III but has a bunch of extra wires exiting from it!, not the usual 3 or 4!😳 This is because it had an infrared diode setup in it, much like the laser in the Seedy Flayers that didn't make their appearance until about 5 years later! Because the turntable isn't just fooly automatic, IT'S FOOLY PROGRAMMABLE as well!!!🤪🤯 A primitive computer (by today's standards, OF COURSE) managed the fool proceedings, allowing information from the light scatter of the photodetector to count the number & location of each track, and you to...er..."tell it where to go".😎 Here's where the real stupidity kicked in: or maybe deliberately cynical planned obsolescence. The photodetector was built INTO the supplied LMA-1 & later LMA-3 cartridges!!!🧟🤦 No LMA-1, no programmability!!!🙄😡And to make matters that much worse, the stylus grips are UTTERLY different & UNIQUE, & look NOTHING like any other modern ADC cartridge stylii grips, such as the one mounted to the table in your own video. As such, replacement stylii were rather quickly discontinued by ADC, despite strongbsales of the Accutrac series of turntables!😡🤬🤬🤬 Now, the death of vinyl in the 1980's was undoubtedly a contributing factor. It certainly contributed to the death of ADC as a company! Anyway, the point of this novel is that ADC didn't build this turntable. Nor did they likely design it & engineer it. ADC is a British company. Something of this sophistication & build quality looks like a slam-dunk "Made in Japan" job...FOR SURE. But, it's not. It's made in England! That's right... the ADC Accutrac turntables were made by BSR in their own British factory!😳😲😮🤩🤩🤩

[@VintageGearMan]

Gotta compact BSR 1970 A27 turntable with a plastic 8" platter. I need to remove it to service idler etc. My BSR A27 is fully working. Anyway this is in a Panasonic RD-7673. I see no clip on the spindle to allow the platter to come off. Anyone in here that knows how to do this please clue me in. I have worked on much higher end turntables but this platter removal has me stumped. It also is playing a little fast 34 instead of 33 and 1/3rd. Guessing older rubber build up in the motor idler shaft.

[@rifraf7126]

I just bought an old record console, the play switch doesn't move.. and nothing spins. Hopefully I'll be able to fix it.. idk.

[@williamallen6310]

Other than a handful of the older, early models, the average/common models (C129, C141, etc) are CLUNKERS and rough as hell on records... I've fully rebuilt and sold 100's... none of my personal records would ever be played on these POS changers !

[@chass5438]

40:15: You're making Frankie dizzy. I've never seen a Reprise Promo like that. Odd.

[@DG-vb4md]

How can I show you some pics? I know what I'm talking about because I'm looking at it but you may not. I recently acquired a Craig 3in1 integrated system.problem is the slider switch doesn't move enough to engage (can do it manually) got it flipped and instantly thought "well that looks upside-down" but I'm not sure and you can tell someone else has been underneath; looks like someone bolted a Ford door on a Dodge (or what have 'ya). If the turntable worked (remember it wants to)98 out of 100; sorry for the length.BSR C197/B/I. T.Y.

[@davidostrovitz3452]

Thank you so much. I have a BSR 220S that froze up and I was able to get it running with your help.

[@basicforge]

Thanks for this video. I have the exact same turntable, and it was all seized up. Now the only problem I have is that the record size mechanism seems to be stuck on 10 inches, so I'll have to work on that. Also, I have a question about the little knob that reads 2 4 6. What is that for?

[@pixellegolas]

Thanks! Looking at buying a Ferguson p128 but in the thrift store it hardly rotated and have a scratchy metallic noise. Perhaps just lubing it up might work

[@VintageGearMan]

Upon further evaluation my BSR is running .7 faster than 33 & 1/3rd speed. I hear most of these older tables tend to be a little fast. Better slightly fast than to slow. I can live with it.

[@pixellegolas]

So I bought the ferguson p128 as mentionen and basicallt followed every point in your video, and voila, it seems to work perfectly :) Now the tonearm seems to not align perfectly in height etc so I need to check how to tune everything. Thanks alot for this video

[@maximotadlas1316]

Thanks for this excellent demonstration. Am going to try to apply at my new acquired bsr built in the 60's which is totally dead, in the mechanical aspect only. But in the electronics, to try to scout for old school technicians.

[@LiLoLoswarncovers]

Hi, I just received a replacement belt for my BSR Quanta 600 but I can't take the plateau off... Any clue ? Thanks

[@steveleggett344]

Thanks, this was a great help to get my TT running again. My rpm on phone ap says it is a tiny bit fast but I think it sounds great. Has an old Pickering cart.

[@RockinJohnny]

Out of interest what year was this BSR released? I noticed it has phone sockets on and as far as I know these did not come out till the 80s. Were they used for internal wiring back then? I thought all audio cables were 5 pin din type back then. I also like the computer PC type mains sockets.

[@shackamerica8985]

Sorry, this is a SDT-9430H Hitachi. PS - Somehow I don't think this is a cycling cam issue.

[@papagJazz]

Thank you. Got my almost 50 year old seized turntable working perfectly!

[@dennishagans6339]

Amazon, Newark, and Fishpond all three showed phonolube, all three are out of stock.

[@stevejohnman68]

I used white litium grease as i read on google! it ran out and got onto the rubber wheel. Will look for phono grease.

[@chass5438]

One thing my BSR's I always got second hand worked correctly.

[@WH32R]

I was messing around inside mine and suddenly it freed up. No idea what I did but hey, works. The problem I have now is sourcing a needle since the console it's in has the old sears catalog number which is useless...

[@jessematsen2503]

This video saved my record cabinet and I am so thankful that you took the time to walk us through the whole cleaning process. Thanks you so very much!

[@eddthemac]

Thank you very much. This was instrumental in repairing my turntable.

[@daviddisandro821]

awesome. since i now have 3 that i bought on ebay. cant get 1 right. the last one is a belt drive. that one looks cool. it doesnt have a holding arm. everything is done on the spindle

[@apfelbasket]

Under the cam, the metal part that pushes the cam spring'd starter (looks like it's pointing at the center spindle), is missing a ball bearing under the novel cut out! It's the same ones that are on the center spindle/record plate in center. Good video!!

[@apfelbasket]

You got it. A real knowledgeable pro!!

[@frankw.mclaughlin1938]

Why wouldn't a GoPro type camera free up both hands to make your two handed tasks easier?

[@madmettie]

I have a BSR CB 201stereo delux, its frozen i thinlk selling it

[@astoaper]

Thank you I'd so forgotten how to get the dam turn table off. I've unsiezed it but dam oil has got onto the rubber wheel

[@tomsanner7142]

Followed these instructions and got mine working again. What guide of grease turns into glue?

[@larryshaver3568]

chenille stems are what i use . a dollar store has them

[@tomwatkins4730]

Good work, JP. Once serviced, these units may perform well. I am nearly ready to try my hand with a Dual 1225. Thank you.

[@chtyan]

Thanks for the video. Helped me out tremendously

[@freesaxon6835]

Good video it stops folks from forcing the platter off ( not knowing the real problem ) BTW is phonolube the best grease to use ?

[@JordanPier]

That, white lithium grease or moly grease in light applications

[@freesaxon6835]

@@JordanPier Thanks for that info. & A merry Christmas from north Wales Britain

[@JordanPier]

@@freesaxon6835 and to you!

[@voenigs612]

Everyone is testing the BSR function with just one record....

[@lucadelledonne4310]

great video, thank you very much. bye bye from italy :)

[@rifraf7126]

Mine has a longer poll in the middle... how would I apply heat to it?

[@jrj405]

Nice work sir got my mom's record player working again.

[@BeckyAndersen]

Thank you so much for this video - I had some seized parts of my newly acquired Emerson DS-50 BSR C-154. I'm new to fiddling with turntables so your video was invaluable!! Now it runs but I'm having issues with the tonearm dropping near the end of the record.... it was working correctly then it started acting up....something I did!?!? I was reading your previous comments about a 'red fiber washer'...wondering if this could be my issue but can't seem to find it anywhere. Here's a video of it in action: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIOudqiAmNGoZ5I

[@JordanPier]

There's something in the record selector assembly under the Tonearm that interfaces with the diameter selector above the stop/start/auto selector. This is a new problem that has started to surface as these get older. I would look at this area of the turntable (which will require you to take it out again) and lubricate the points of the record selector. Anything intended to move should move freely.

[@BeckyAndersen]

@@JordanPier Thanks for your response, Jordan! I'll take a look and let you know how it goes :)

[@THOMMGB]

Jordan, Excellent servicing information. Thanks for showing all the little details. You're absolutely right about oiling the idler wheel. For my first record player servicing, I did an old Voice of Music record player and found that, after servicing it, there was a tiny squeak that wouldn't go away. Removing the idler wheel and putting a very tiny drop of Zoom Spout Oil on the axle shaft solved my squeaking problem. I was extra careful not to get any oil on the rubber idler wheel. Regards, Tom

[@opaquemango85]

Great video. I just got a nice stereo cabinet for free. The main problem was the on switch was locked. Used your tip and got it working in just a few min. Thanks. I am saving this video so I can do the rest of the repairs once I have the phonogreese

[@reddoggames3011]

Is there any fix if the center shaft spins while the turntable is on

[@Sxysady]

Thank you so much!! This video helped greatly! We are complete novices to Record players.

[@calvincrowdis2257]

I have a bsr 12a mini and I need to replace the needle and cartridge… would be interested in any help you can give me on which cartridge to buy? Used this video to help clean it up and get everything working and moving alongside another BSR model I have… hoping you can help!

[@JordanPier]

The tn-4 or tn-8u the voice of music sells will likely mount up. You may need to solder new connectors on the wires if the old cartridge uses flat pins instead of round ones.

[@erickleinschmidt9202]

Hi, I have a BSR C123R-B-1 that I have cleaned following your excellent video here, but upon reassembly, I've ran into a new problem where the platter won't spin unless I give it a few rotations by hand. Once going it runs fine, maybe a little slow, and then at the end of the record, it stalls. I can hear the motor humming, but the platter is stuck and when I move the switch to stop, the platter rolls backwards a bit. I resurfaced the idler wheel and that helped a bit, needs less rotations by hand but the problem persists. Do I need a new wheel altogether? Thank you for any help!

[@JordanPier]

Check that you didnt get any oil on the idler wheel or motor pulley. Clean with isopropyl Check that idler pivot arm (arm with the screw the idler is on) is completely free moving

[@rvargasti]

Fantastic big help thank YOU

[@cgeorge6786]

Brake cleaner will clean that grease up good.

[@billmellater]

Any idea how to remove the spindle? No meeting if it here. The drop spindle isn't there from the beginning and whatever that little stub is disappears between frames. If it just pulls out, that ain't happening on mine

[@JordanPier]

Use penetration oil down the shaft. After a couple hours heat up the bearing( with the platter off ) and pull up as you heat. Should come out eventually. Then clean the inside with isopropyl and q tips

[@osvaldocolunga4867]

How long is the pulley?

[@theboi1885]

Question: If not alcohol what should I clean the idler wheel with? My BSR runs smoothly now except I can hear the wheel running against the platter. It’s like a low clicking sound. any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[@JordanPier]

I would resurface it first. Sounds like it has a ding. You can try acetone, but use sparingly

[@mikeulrich4722]

Just watched your video, everything cleaned up and the turntable is spinning like it should except at the end of your video, your record wasn't dropping and you said you need to realine the spindle. Mine 45s arent but my 33s are. I have taken the spindle out and put it back. It still won't drop the record. Do you have a video about this or suggestions?

[@JordanPier]

The ledge of the spindle must be pointed at the pivot of the tonearm. If its not, check if the key the spindle fits into is and align the spindle to thr key If the key is not aligned you will need to rotate the platter bearing to realign the spindle key

[@CharlesDowiot-qv7pp]

Going to be Nice when fixed ✨️

[@virgil5361]

I just serviced my Radio Shack Clarinette 105 following these instructions as far as I could. On this type of cabinet, I was not able to take the whole platform off due to it being inaccessible means to get to those two screws to release the platform from the cabinet. But I was able to pry the platform up enough on one side of the platform to be able to spray some WD40 on the mechanisms and gave it time to work itself in and then I worked the control knob gently till it broke free. I did have to use a cheap soldering iron to heat up the spindle shaft till the platter was able to break free. It did not take as long as in this video to heat up. After removing it I did take the cam gear off. I did not use any machine oil or lube but olive oil to lube and oil up the areas mentioned in this video. When done I assembled everything back and it does work now except I, as he did in the video, put the spindle in wrong and I have to try and figure out how to put it in the correct orientation so the auto drop will work. But I gently pat the record down and the needle arm comes over and drops down and plays to the end and stops. Some people don't like these types of stereo but not everyone can afford to spend $2,000 on a stereo system built of different components.

[@JordanPier]

On the clarinette, you either remove the rear panel, flip one up to release the back part then pull back to slide the other out of position to remove the turntable. ...or there are large screws on the underside at the left and right that release the whole top

[@Carrion_7]

Hey Jordan, I have a console with this record player in it and there is one loose orange wire that goes somewhere near the audio Jack in the back. Wondering how I would find out where? It's a Readers Digest Custom Console VI

[@JordanPier]

Shoot me a pic vintageavrepair at gmail dot com

[@beejay4025]

Jordan, would you be willing to show how to extensively repair the on/off part? I'm still not able to get mine to un seize :(

[@JordanPier]

On the bottom side where the levers interface you should see a round disc about the size of a quarter. Thats what typically seizes. You can try blasting this with heat from a heatgun or hair dryer and then oiling around the disc and letting it soak. See if the heat will loosen it. If you get it loose then clean it with alcohol quickly and reoil all where the disc slides

[@goldenboy5500]

I prefer acetone aka nail polish remover

[@codywood8137]

This is the third video I've watched; no one show how to get the spindle out. My is stuck. Doesn't pull out. Doesn't screw out. Help!

[@JordanPier]

Heat the socket the spindle fits into while pulling up with pliars. When the hardened grease loosens, the spindle will come out. Heat gun or hair dryers work, just don't do it while the platter is still on

[@levig14]

At the end, when it didn't drop the record prior to moving the tone arm, what did you adjust to fix that? Also, any tips on adjusting the tone arm, or do I need some specialty tools? Thanks!

[@guscarguy]

Typically on these changers, when installing the stacker spindle after removal the stacker spindle doesn't function first try. It usually takes a second try for it to function properly as long as the spindle is in the correct orientation. This video explains it kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKCpmGZqZdqhoLs at 36:03. If you're talking about drop location of the tonearm to the record, there's a screw on the rear lower of the tonearm. Clockwise moves the tonearm outward and counterclockwise turns it inward.

[@Seemsayin]

An excellent video. Thank you so much for taking the time to create this. I'm having spindle issues, just like you had. How does one re-align a spindle?

[@JordanPier]

Put something around the bearing the spindle fits in like a piece of hose and then turn with pliers

[@Seemsayin]

@@JordanPier Thanks for the quick reply, Jordan. I was hoping for a link (to the video where you actually do that), cuz I'm having a bit of trouble following your suggestion.

[@Synthematix]

I was fixing these bsr changers at about 10 years old lol, i would suggest putting the rubber drive wheel on a lathe to even it out apply gentle pressure with 1500grit paper, it might look level but it wont be they never were from new. anyway im glad your channels back mate, good stuff.

[@greyfox503]

0-i just bought a great bsr 610 record player, what kind of needle does it use?? i am confused

[@JordanPier]

Gotta know what cartridge was installed. Send me some pix of the arm and underside where the needle goes. Vintageavrepair at Gmail dot com

[@nealklaeserarchive3253]

Thank you for the video. I’m working on a BSR141 and I am having a problem when the tone arm gets to the end of album the tone arm doesn’t retract? Any ideas?

[@santiagoburgosnorena9883]

Hello friend, I have solved it by rectifying that the lamina with the pellet, push the plates that the large gear brings, specifically at the minute 18:08 and 19:13, I do not know if it works for your model but I hope that if, make sure too to remove the dirt that gathers on the shafts of the mechanism and to lubricate all the moving parts very well. I hope it is of your help, greetings.

[@nuttyprofessor]

Turn your auto-return gear at the 12:00-12:01 position slightly clockwise. When you move the tonearm near the end of record spindle, the trip lever on the gear must extend directly over the platter thrust bearing assembly so that the platter gear engages the auto-return gear properly.

[@U203D_]

Following this video, I just got my parent's old player running again! Even after it's sat in a storage unit for the past 13 years! Thank you so much!

[@electronicaesaz4884]

Very good explanation of lubricating the turntable, a great video, thank you for the great explanation.

[@yaboidustin2447]

I can't get the platter off of mine

[@greyfox503]

where can i buy the phonolube you used in your video?? i have searched everywhere to no avail, pease help. thanks bill

[@JordanPier]

Can't get it anymore. Lubriplate lithium grease works instead

[@JohnsonRhee-e5l]

Gaylord Crossing

[@sgw8903]

Thank you. Still and probably always relevant and useful. Gives me confidence to tackle my own. Impressive simultaneous one handed camera and bench work too!

[@hestheMaster]

This BSR record changer has the worst grease ever. It should all be removed. Use 30-40 Q tips. Got one in 1974 and went bad by 2000. Haven't used it since. But now I know how to fit it thanks to Jordan!

[@peter-johnduncan2071]

Now I have regrets haha. My Dad gave away a BSR Turntable to some guy to fix. Guy said it couldn't be fixed (the same issue with stiff wheel and broken needle) so we got a new one. Looking at this now I'm like..."Dammmit should have made the guy give us back the old turntable." Oh well the DJQ1100 is serving us well, although I do miss the auto change haha.

[@haggy38]

Greta video, thanks.

[@dennisdemark8151]

Own a BSR ...still play mine 👌🏼 ... enjoy this video very much indeed.

[@MikeMejia90]

Thank you for this! Might I recommend you set up an Amazon Affiliate account if you haven't done so already. That way you can have link to any items you use. Screwdrivers, lubes, washers, etc. I'm looking to get that phonolube and I'd be more than happy to use your link so you get a little something for it. Link things in all your videos. Thanks again!

[@galopalo]

Hello Jordan my BDR turntable works almost fine. The speed of the turning is slightly higher than normal. For 33 mode, it turns 34 or 35 per minute. Not a very high difference but this makes it sounds different. What could be the problem? Any idea? best,

[@nickblackburn1903]

Nice video thank you