How To Set Auto Level And Rescue On MSH iKon/Brain 2 FBL Unit

[@roberthardy7868]

Hello Jeff, Love the video. Can you do the same for VBARe? If so, can you do video on that as well? Keep up the great work! 🧙‍♂👍

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Hello! Yes! You can have rescue and “ Beginner” mode on Vbar. You will need the pro and rescue software for that to work. But I’ll make a video on it!

[@gerrykeaveney1657]

another very helpful video for us beginners Jeff... out of interest do you have a link to share for that 3d printed pitch gauge mount.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I’m glad video was helpful! I found it on thingiverse. I’ll look and see if I can find a link. They have all different sizes for all Heli. Very useful tool!

[@Ride-Fly]

Great video thanks for posting this would be good to use on a big scale heli. Does flight controller re-zero every time you plug the battery in? One of my helis the tail was down when I plugged it in and when I flew it the heli kept drifting back.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you for watching! Auto level is a great tool is used properly. I can definitely teach some bad habits, but it can also help. So every time you plug in the FPO unit, the helicopter needs to be level. Or at least as level as possible, and left completely still until it fully initializes. If that doesn’t happen, then if the helicopter is angled any direction, it can have a drift to it, especially when using the auto level feature.

[@barryjindra6327]

Have you setup a spirit system? Would you do a video over the spirit system? Preferable the spirit gt with auto rescue.

[@barryjindra6327]

I have a new spirit gt coming in from HD. If u would do a review i will send it to you.

[@turionb1408]

​@@barryjindra6327 hello. Did ypoi find a good setup vid for the spirit gt?

[@barryjindra6327]

@@turionb1408 I have used the setup guide on helifreak under spirit systems

[@headintheclouds2569]

I just built a raw500 for a friend. Ikon2. Blades balanced perfectly, cg matched. Blades tight (per manual) I am getting a pretty noticeable vibration in the skids during hover. Also, when I switch to autolevel the heli immediately what's to pitch forward and left. Swash level tool was used during setup. Any advice?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

What head speed is it vibrating at? I would redo the auto level in the software. Make sure the heli is perfectly level when selecting the auto level box.

[@Coffeeandcream99]

Hello, thanks for the video. I tried exactly what you did and made sure the Heli is leveled before I turned on auto level. I tried many things on my Goosky rs4 running the stock ESC and the ikon2. No matter what I tried as soon as I flipped the auto level switch on my spektrum IX14 the Heli wants to pitch forward. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@Coffeeandcream99 Thank you for watching! Sorry to hear about your issues. First thing I would do is make sure swash plate perfectly level. If the swash is not level any time you use auto level it will drift in that direction.

[@Coffeeandcream99]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 it’s definitely very level. That’s why I’m so confused. Do you have any ideas I could try? Thank you.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@Coffeeandcream99 is there a update available for the ikon? If you did the update maybe try going back to the version before and see if it works or solved the drift.

[@Coffeeandcream99]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 OK I will try that. Thank you so much.

[@glenn4452]

Another great video sir,I have the avian 120 esc on one of my blade fusion 480,I think I’ll get the ikon for the other 480,should I get the same 120 amp like the avian ? Thank you sir

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I’m glad your enjoyed it! So personally if you’re going with iKon I would recommend getting the Hobbywing 120. With the SRXL2, you will have full telemetry, and I’m not sure if the Avion communicates telemetry with the iKon or not. But I know the Hobbywing does!

[@glenn4452]

Thank you sir,greatly appreciated

[@Dibilibix27]

So if i am inverted it will reverse to original position?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@Dibilibix27 yes, it will rescue the heli and go to upright and climb. I made a video showing how it works,

[@user-vn6ix2on6x]

Bonjour Jeff, j'ai bien compris le fonctionnement du mode sauvetage, une fois actionné l’hélico prend du pas et s’éloigne du sol et quand l’hélico est sur le dos il y a retournement et il prend du pas. Mais pour le mode automatique, cela limite l'angle longitudinal et latéral ? je ne comprend pas bien la réaction de l’hélico dans ce mode. Que ce passe t il en mode automatique? David (FRANCE)

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Hello! So yes, in the auto level mode, it will limit you from ever flipping the helicopter over it will limit the helicopter to a specific bank angle, even if the sticks are pushed all the way into either corner. And when you release the sticks, the helicopter will come back to a level position. Now this is not a GPS so it will not hold it there, but it will bring it back to level.

[@kaidok9314]

Thanks Jeff! Question/ confirm...So on TX16S say if i want ONLY autolevel and no rescue, i would level heli on level table, in TX16S creat an AUX 2 in mixes that say i would be using the SB switch(like i would for OMP self level), Then in IKON software set the setup(2or 3) that i want to use just AUTOLEVEL and then when i liftoff in normal mode and hit my IU1 switch as well as SB i would be in self level, is this right? Also do i have to turn AUTOLEVEL switch SB off before landing(i assume yes)? Thank you!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

You’re welcome! So yes, you can do it just like that as long as in exhilaration two or three channel is inputted signal you can tell it however, you want it to work. But since you don’t want rescue and you only want auto level, then I would assign the auxiliary 3 channel to be auto level and just not click the rescue feature. That way your flight modes can all stay the same and then you can have auto level on a complete separate switch.

[@RotoRCol]

I am now more confused. at 1:56 you said to look aux 2 and aux 3 in the software, but aux3 never moved when you flip the switch, and which switch did you assign the autolevel if you said that switch b is the flight condition and can´t be used for autolevel at the same time? and finally what happen if I flip to autolevel with the heli inverted?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

So when using Aux 2 and 3 together, meaning Aux 2 for your flight modes or your auto level, and then Aux 3 for your rescue, you will not see movement on the transmitter screen for AUX 2 only in the flight mode page as demonstrated in the video. I do not know what will happen if you flip auto level while inverted because I have never tried that. I’m assuming it is going to try to rite the helicopter back to level and then stay there, but I cannot confirm that.

[@ascherlafayette8572]

Wait, does the whole putting the heli on a level surface for auto level apply to the rescue feature? All I want from rescue is to get the helicopter upright.

[@2112inuyasha]

do some of these helicopters all ready come with the auto level set up in the FBL unit

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

If it’s a RTF or BNF but if you build it and set it up you will have to do it yourself.

[@2112inuyasha]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 which RTF would be the size equivalent of a FeiLun FX067c helicopter? Of course I have two other helis, a WL toys v977 and a HK500 that still needs to finished.

[@2112inuyasha]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 which RTF helicopter is the equivalent size to the FeiLun FX067c heli?

[@eagleonefoxtwo2487]

Shouldn't the swash go faster back leveled if auto level is on? I think my auto level on brain 2 is not working...because the swash is movin the same like in the normal fbl mode😢

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

No, you can’t go by bench moving. It’s supposed to be slow moving. It will hold but not over ride your command.

[@eagleonefoxtwo2487]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 I did not mean that it should override but as if i aam getting it right, the auto level should work like if it is in the goosky helis (s1 and s2)isn't it!?So if i am movin sticks and the let the Stick go back to mid point the swash should go fast back to Level Position??or does this not work like that in the brain fbl?

[@rjbishop12]

I thought with version 2 of these FBL units one does not have to do any of this auto-level pre setup. The controller constantly tunes the autolevel in flight. In fact, I've never seen any of what you demonstrated here in the documentation. Are you sure you're not digging up old school habits from prior version 1 controllers?

[@eagleonefoxtwo2487]

Would be very very nice if somebody could post a setup of ikon 2/Brain 2 with Radiomaster Transmitter and Futaba sfhss or Graubner Hott reciever. I am planning to get my T-Rex 500L Dominator a Brain 2 and want to run all with my Radiomaster TX12 (MKII cc2500 MPM)

[@TadaYada]

Hot tip, don't try to go inverted when you accidently flip the rescue/auto level mode because it will fight it and smack your heli to the ground like I did! lol. Lost my Goblin 500 this way, learned my lesson the hard way.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

With rescue? I used it many times and never been a issue.

[@RotoRCol]

did you mean autolevel or rescue?

[@Lance57H]

You realize the rescue is supposed to be able to pull it out of an inverted flight right? I've used it personally when I was leaning barrel rolls and it worked exactly as expected. I think you had yours set up incorrect, or you're referring to auto level.

[@TadaYada]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 It was both Rescue and Auto Level. I basically fought it thinking it was my next idle up switch.

[@TadaYada]

@@RotoRCol It was both, my switch was setup to use both autolevel and rescue and I fought it because I thought I flipped the next idle up switch.