How to Setup a Vision Rack System (step by step)

We have two new racks!! We bought a Vision rack to use as our quarantine rack for new and rescued snakes, and we also got a Vision hatchling rack! In today's video Ted (from Custom Cages) and I show you how to setup their rack systems. At the end we show them all setup and in action with reptiles inside!
I want to send out a huge thank-you to Ted from Vision for delivering them and helping me set them up! To learn more about Vision racks and caging, go to www.customcage...
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[@jesoko6724]

I just need to say that Emily basically dedicated a whole portion of the video to not only explain why the rack enclosures were so bare, but also to apologize for it and assure us that it won't stay that way. There are some big name breeders on this platform who have whole rooms (sometimes whole buildings) of snakes and hatchlings, and most of them are lucky to get a hide, let alone be on substrate that's not just a paper towel, if there's even a paper towel in the bin at all. They go on and on about how they care about their animals and their product, yet they are pulling out bin after bin that has literally nothing but a pregnant snake or hatchling in it, with no mention that the bins are temporary. This is why I am subscribed here and not to those other channels. I just want to say thank you for showing me that you care about the well being of these animals instead of just telling me you do. I am very proud to be part of the community for KZbinrs who pay such attention to the quality of life of not only their product but their breeding stock. Even the quarantined animals have hides and substrate, and leaves and sticks for stimulation, even though their homes are temporary. These videos are truly a pleasure to watch.

[@SiriusBlackBuscus]

Jes' Oko it’s sad that I know exactly which irresponsible KZbinr you are referring to.

[@adriennefrusciante3090]

Jes' Oko yes!! There are SO MANY reptile youtubers who don’t seem to care about the animal, but just the views they get from them. It’s so sad.

[@abbs9497]

Because of those people, I used to think all rack systems were bad until I started watching Emily. Also her feeder mice are well taken care of :)

[@wramos5639]

So Many Words, My Brain Hurts Now

[@mishashahid4007]

@@wramos5639 stick to watching videos.

[@vickijeng]

Me:doesn’t own a reptile and never plans to Also me: yes I need to know how to build a vision rack system

[@royalgalaxywolf]

Steelysaturn410 same lol

[@19sman74]

I know, right??😂😂

[@evelyn_r]

Lol a skill everyone should know! You never know when it might come in handy! (Also, same sentiments)

[@loganthompson2882]

me too

[@Raydiat0r]

Steelysaturn410 I want a snek one day but my mom won’t let me have one until I move out...

[@dezb8510]

Did I just watch an infomercial for snake racks aaaand I have no snake 🐍...? Yep sure did! ❤️

[@aurathedutchangeldragon6399]

Dez B me too

[@wramos5639]

Just Get A Snek And We All Good

[@thecybersecurityexperience275]

Get one girl leap of faith thats worth it

[@dezb8510]

david castociano my daughter wants an egg eating nake but im afraid I wouldn’t take good care if it

[@thecybersecurityexperience275]

@@dezb8510 easier than it seems very low maintenance animals long as you do ur research 👍😁💯

[@frufbot2593]

Can you please do a video about how you raise and breed your own rodents?

[@DemonicMonic]

Ummm, we need videos of the rodents you got too. Like, they were cute as all heck... even if they are food.

[@ashleynoll6082]

@@silliestnightinthewoodsfan did you not see the cute mouse with babies at the end??? lol

[@pamarosa3625]

The food should look good tho

[@sole6321]

Ikr it makes me feel so bad how they r gonna be killed one day but thats nature also my sister use to have a mouse and thats why i feel really bad bc they r so cute and adorible pets to have.

[@voidless43]

20:47 a mouse or rat (rodent for ya)

[@willowythecat-dragon5755]

i don't care about rodents who get killed to be eaten but pet rodents when they die i cry

[@morgangobin9985]

Those racks didn’t come with instructions for 20 YEARS?! That’s absolutely ridiculous! Ted is nothing short of a lifesaver for all the engineering-inept snake keepers of the world!

[@abigailherman2535]

@Theriot Hemchand uhhhhh ok?

[@mikeyamante8997]

I dislike this

[@I_am_Alexander_]

Why is everyone saying dislike this? Is there something I didn't get?

[@kittreid704]

@@I_am_Alexander_ Pretty sure it's a play on the DELET THIS meme

[@wramos5639]

abigail herman Don’t He’s Legit Asking Everyone To Dislike It

[@1updylan]

ted when he sees snake discovery needs bin storage: *its free stonks*

[@theiris1002]

Its free sneks

[@RamenNamen991]

@@theiris1002 its free real e-sneks

[@noelmey2118]

*it's free real-e-snakes*

[@annastevenson5670]

I actually screamed

[@amberarias395]

Hi Emily! You mentioned that the caves don’t fit in the new narrow tubs and I think adding egg carton as a hide could benefit you! When I quarantine snakes I put them on paper towels and given an egg carton hide. It’s super affordable and easy to customize for the size of snake or enclosure! And you can compost the egg carton (or recycle) when you’re done :)

[@battlebear437]

That’s an excellent (er, egg-cellent?) idea! And, they can cut down the egg carton to fit in those narrower bins!

[@mechengr1731]

And it helps cut down on waste too That's awesome.

[@zylinbia2575]

Emily please do a vid on your feeder mice! I'm curious about the process of raising your own.

[@catthomas4411]

“Sweet free rodent or snake hides” that’s the best part!

[@natalia1800]

I am not first I am not last But when I see baby Snek I click fast

[@voidless43]

baby snek doo doo doo

[@InASpiralOfAnts]

Baby snek do do do do do

[@onionnyamous5453]

Baby snek doo doo doo doo

[@sythepie]

Baby snek

[@voidless43]

momma snek do do do do do

[@novaluna1102]

I’ve never actually seen beauty snakes before, I can’t wait to see the video about them. The black markings by the eyes are gorgeous!

[@Manda_Kat]

Ted just telaports in there like it ain't a big deal, huh?

[@fansy9161]

With editing skills, *EVERYTHING* is possible

[@samalight7249]

He's a wizard

[@squelch077]

I love Ted.

[@royalgalaxywolf]

Ya that was funny but editing can take anyone anywhere

[@Cam_Got_WiFi]

Theriot Hemchand no

[@ellesreptiles]

These are awesome racks! As always I absolutely love how much attention you put into setting up these racks (substrate, enrichment, and hides). ♥️

[@anacrus2]

I waited all day for your video and then it showed up and said how to put together a rack and I say “sweet!” And I’ll never own a snake but now I know. Knowledge is power.

[@hunter4779]

LMAO she was going to say queen of screwing!!!!! LOL good save!

[@voidless43]

....lets not speak of this again

[@InASpiralOfAnts]

Yeah

[@rejeenarasheed1818]

No no not really

[@DragonRiderShiru]

I thought she was going to say queen of the pole 😂

[@hunter4779]

@@DragonRiderShiru that would have been funny too.

[@charabelle916]

I love that shes kind to even her feeders! Like I could imagine a mouse brreder would just disacknowldge ot shove it back in its bin but she gently pushed mama back in

[@Skeletor8387]

Dear, Emily I am an aspiring reptile enthusiast. It’s all thanks to you. I never would be where I am today if you weren’t here. Thank you for everything. Love, Nicole

[@gin_s]

Hi Emily!!! I'm such a big fan! You helped me her over my snake fear and now I love them! Thank you so much for what you're doing! 💖

[@purple6242]

Same me too I used to be terrified of snakes and now I want like 6 of them.

[@sarahlittrell8960]

Same here! Now I own a snake.

[@madalynncirstea4900]

I was the same well I wasn't scared of them I just wasn't a fan. Now I go to petco see a worker holding a pied ball python and I ask if I can pet it. Of course they let me although they couldn't let me hold it due to store policy.

[@athanburnett6125]

You are wearing an eve evolution shirt. You are making me love this channel even more.

[@autisticwitch7581]

Little ghost baby: You can't find me because I'm a ghost.

[@sarhahillsburg5142]

They a sneaky snek 🐍

[@Frog-yi9ce]

I LOVE your Eeveelution shirt!!

[@umbrellagerm1699]

Yes I was looking for this comment. Does someone know where to get that???

[@BanoffeePie45]

@@umbrellagerm1699 www.teepublic.com/en-gb/t-shirt/924190-eeveelutions-nouveau?store_id=55757

[@rock2946]

@@BanoffeePie45 B L E S S

[@RemisJewelryShop]

Yeah I totaly want one for my b day this Wed I'll be 10 yrs old

[@vanthonvenus]

snake discovery: “we’re out of bins” also snake discovery: proceeds to buy a snake mansion

[@hahehehoho1271]

I’m probably never going to get a reptile but I’m binge watching all their videos and it’s really made me appreciate the beauty of snakes and reptiles in general

[@LifesWildAdventures]

I create a lot more work for myself, but I love keeping my stuff in Terrariums. I just enjoy watching my stuff and looking at their setups, but since I bred a few now I’m like “O hecc that’s many bebys.” So this is very helpful for them 😂

[@priscillamariiinn]

1:17 Love how she's just in her own little world 😂

[@ashleynoll6082]

You are such a great person, I love your passion and obvious love for the creatures you keep! Thank you for taking time out of your day to make videos for us, I know it can be taxing. Also, what's going on with your ideas of expanding into a store? Please let us know I can't wait!

[@DJDroz-tz4qc]

Snek 1: I smell food? Snek 2: that's our neighbor upstairs. You can eat them later.

[@reptilerant173]

D.J. Droz 😂

[@Tainted_Grace]

Honestly I would’ve snaked (hehe) the heat wire and put in the stoppers before putting the next level on. It just seems like it would be easier.

[@theGhostWolfe]

As the heat cables can be purchased separately, I suppose you could have a cable for each level with individual thermostats so the upper levels will compensate for any radiating heat from below.

[@jeffreytindall6126]

She protecc She attacc she set up snek rac

[@frightbat208]

These racks are cool. Thanks for this video 👍🏻 My family would never be breeders or would never use tubs but I appreciate the need for breeders to have these. The engineering is impressive.

[@VOLAIRE]

I would never own a snake but these videos are so interesting

[@fluffbungle6533]

if you have a tiny trouble snake (like i got this year) that has you worried about the size of the holes, use a pair of cut up tights. after mine escaped through a really small slot in my hatchling tub we stretched a pair of tights over the top and clamped them down. still loads of airflow but it effectively seals up the gaps and now i can rest easy that she wont get out again.

[@trinitymay3692]

I love snake and your care for them but as a person that owns pet mice I hate feeder breeding conditions. They should have more vertical space even if they are going to be fed to another animal I still believe they deserve the best conditions when they are alive. It isn't as bad with mice as long as the floor space is large enough but rats need tons of vertical space.

[@rayvnekieron8587]

I just started breeding rats for feeders- as I was doing research on them I read that they should have 2 cubic feet of space per rat. I have NEVER seen feeder breeding rats kept in that much space, but I got them a critter nation cage that's more than big enough for them! It's sad that so many of them are kept in such cramped spaces! I'm also planning on getting two more females and another male so that Oberon and Andromeda don't have to be alone while Andromeda has pups.

[@queenjeski591]

Rayvn e'Kieron you named feeder rats? that’s twisted

[@RamoArt]

@@queenjeski591 Pretty sure the named rats are the parents of the feeders and not feeders themselves but why would naming feeders be any more twisted than feeding animals that you've raised up without names to your reptiles? It makes no difference

[@babyybubbles241]

Honestly I'll never get a snake or reptile, but Emily is so knowledgeable and explains things so clearly. I love how enthusiastic she is- she truly loves these animals and it makes me happy to know there's people like her in the world. Thank you for being you!! I hope to see your videos for years to come!!

[@lexlish2748]

I absolutely love snakes and other reptiles. I was wondering what a good starter snake would be? My parents had a 5ft long rock python named falcore when I was little, and he was awesome.

[@reptilerant173]

I always recommend king or corn snakes.

[@snakesrule7067]

I like how Emily and Ed give their animals enrichment and she actually cares about them and some breeders will send all of the babies that don’t eat to a zoo to have them killed and fed to cobras or not care if they don’t eat and let them suffer and die a painful death but Emily and Ed try different methods and actually care. Love you Emily and Ed! ❤️

[@urmom-qr7ub]

Hi Emily I was wondering if you would recommend breeding garter snakes? Also thank you so much for Making me not scared of snakes

[@-.S4turns_Pupp3ts.-]

Everyone should put a like on this video because they take such good care of their reptiles and don’t leave them in just boxes with nothing not even a paper towel like most KZbinrs. Emily puts paper towels, leaves, water dishes, and more in their baby snake bins and we can’t forget Ed he helps a lot too. Emily also helps all the snakes and helps us understand how to take care of reptiles too. She always helps her reptiles don’t forget Cheyenne. She just puts so much effort into all her animals in helping them, caring for them, feeding them, and so much more! And she also makes new enclosures for her snakes. Like she did with nearly headless nick. He will always be with us. Janet will always be with us too. It broke my heart to hear Janet and Nick passed away. 😭😭😭 I can’t even imagine how sad Emily was when that happened. R.I.P guys

[@zwierzchnik]

Hey Emily, I have an entire box of Christmas lights that need untangling...I can send them to you post haste! 🎄😂

[@katelillo1932]

I’m curious about the quarantine rack concept; do the bins really isolate the animals effectively enough to be a true quarantine? The only way I can see this working is if all the animals go in the rack at the same time and remain quarantined for the same period of time - otherwise, an animal who is almost ready to come out of quarantine could be contaminated with a pathogen or parasite from a neighboring bin containing a brand new animal... 🤔

[@AlbinoAxolotl]

I was wondering about that too. Those bins are open enough that anything that crawls, flies, or is airborne could easily travel from bin to bin and contaminate every animal. Though I guess if one animal was quarantined and turned out to have an issue they would treat everything in the area and probably the room. I think it’s more of a “best practices” assurance to hold each animal separately and away from the rest of the larger collection in a smaller group that could more easily be watched carefully and treated if necessary.

[@6strings735]

It is to keep the new animals away from her established collection. Disease is transferred via feeding tongs and other contact - not typically by air.

[@SueChicago]

After watching them assemble the racks it seemed that when you know how to do it, it may be easier to install the heating cord as you add each shelf so you can see what you are doing.

[@Keya3596]

As someone who really wants to get her own collection of snakes one day, thank you so much for the demo, and also just thank you in general for all the education and tips and tricks for taking care of many different types of snakes!

[@SnakeHuntersTV]

Great informative video. I use freedom breeder but these look good. I prefer the stainless steel structure versus plastic.

[@paige4201]

he's loud, but a nice kind of loud. he obviously likes helping people out and has everything down. good employee.

[@awlexiz5810]

😱I’m so excited for new videos but I also really want to adopt a snake soon because my birthday is in 8 days❣️❤️

[@busybees.r.c.1836]

@Theriot Hemchand i do its cute!😊

[@verathebat9583]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY... oh wait it says 8 months ago... still HAPPY BIRTHDAY. AND theriot hemchand THAT IS JUST MEAN!

[@averageuser4651]

I’ve been watching your videos a lot lately even though I don’t own and not planning to own animals. I think the way you talk and explain things make me nostalgic of when I used to go to nature centers and interact with animals as a kid.

[@jonflannery8984]

Two questions: do you have issues with sag between levels especially with larger species? And have you recognized any increased activity related to having the feeder breeders on top? Would the smells from the rodent cage increase or induce feeding behavior in the snakes closest to it?

[@animemusicluver1]

Aww they're soo soo cute in their tubes 😍

[@izices]

That lil' rat corn was like "HEY Gimme back my tube dude!"

[@peroeli7180]

im really happy that you also treat your mice with such kindness giving them bedding and enrichment!!! i love reptiles but i'm super big on small rodents so seeing this really makes me admire you even more

[@thegayestgaythatevergayed5449]

ALL HAIL QUEEN OF THE CASTER WHEEL

[@Ricardowieringa]

@Taylor Smith ur mum gey

[@kallazardrakul666]

From my experience I've found that little by little pulling the end of the chord (or anything else that's long enough to get tangled or knotted) through the knot. It comes untangled faster that way.

[@tracisucharski1185]

I want these racks but I would definitely need Ted to put it together! 😆

[@tilapiastew6784]

I wish Ted Judy still did hid KZbin channel, he is really good at explaining stuff. Had a very cool fish room. Great video.

[@evan23242526272829]

Emily: QUEEN OF THE CASTERS!!! Ted: oof

[@acartia]

I'm so glad you made this video. I planned on buying a rack from them next month and I was a little uncertain but seeing it now, I'm so excited!

[@harmonialarts]

I know the mice are snake food... but please show us the mice babies

[@thepinkflamingostrikesagai7319]

She would but they are in the freezer.

[@EricaDiebold]

I absolutely love this video Emily! I would love to see more equipment videos like this. Ted sounds like a great guy! I would love to see more collabs too! The videos of you and friends having a “snake/reptile” get-together or going herping are so fun too

[@ashleyclutinger4295]

In Japan a class hatch chicken eggs in a plastic bag so they can see them watch can that be done with snake?

[@reptiledisfunktion3942]

The rodent-thing is okay for like sick bins or pregancay bins, but they do really need more space than that.

[@gabriellakat1797]

Her shirt tho it’s amazing 😉😄🤣😋

[@markramser5061]

I really like the ease of the design and the versatility of its use. nice tub set

[@MartellaNutella]

The babies mice omg way to cute I would end up keeping them all

[@xelionx4591]

She will end up feeding them to snakes

[@petrescuework-difficultcas6581]

When mice grow up, they are actually very hard to keep in well running groups without them getting in dangerous fights or killing each other. The group members have to be selected carefully by their character and eventually be separated for the rest of their lives if they don't get along. Responsible mice keeping requires a lot of knowledge and space.

[@43prateek]

An acquaintance of mine had the same problem with the thin bins. He had strong plastic cups which he colored black with some kind of non-toxic paint and then made a hole for entrance with scissors and melted pointy edges with a candle. Worked good for him, maybe works for you too. The only downside I guess is that its a lot of work for a lot of bins. He also suggested that pipes with one side closed off works great too, but the baby snakes may not feel very secure in them, as they need tight spaces.

[@taay333]

Does she not get attached to the mice?? I would feel so horrible feeding them 😫

[@kristerpedersen1645]

It's the circle of life

[@bubblegummel]

I can't have a pet snake because i have pet hamsters and love mice and gerbils too. Nope. I'd cry

[@suzannedube7245]

But then the snakes will die... Gotta choose priorities i guess

[@thepinkflamingostrikesagai7319]

I had pet mice. My sister brought her cat over AND Left it behind without food. I came home find the cage knocked over and mice parts strewn across my front room. Saw cat called my sister told her what HER CAT DID. My sister said she didn't want her cat anymore and gave it to me as a belated birthday gift. FAMILY THE GIFT YOU CAN NEVER EXCHANGE! I kept the cat named her Sheba and she live to be 14 years old. R.I.P BERNARD BIANCA AND SHEBA 🌈🐁🐁🐈

[@faithcampos2586]

I love your videos! I personally think everyone that watches these videos does support this channel. The more views equal the more money.

[@laartje24]

Could you please do a video on how you keep and breed your feeder mice? Also please give mama mouse a nontransperant cave to hide in too (if it wasn't in there already, couldn't tell for sure)

[@Beaah]

No there was none.

[@KayleyBrooke93]

Ahhhhh I’m in love with your shirt!! I don’t own reptiles or amphibians of any kind, however I love the amount of work and genuine passion you put into each video! Absolutely love watching your channel!

[@thepinkflamingostrikesagai7319]

Aww the mouse mama. She work so hard making a nest for her babies. THEN Emily opened the bin saying let me show you the food for the snakes. AWWW... Poor mouse family.

[@dogandcat3672]

It's life. Even the family dog and cat eat cute little chickens and gentle sweethearted cows. The snakes can't go vegan. She did treat the mouse with respect though and it did seem to like her. (Just so you know, I own pet chickens that I love. Pets are pets. Even my chickens manage to find mice nest and eats all of them before I can stop them. Yes chickens eat rodents. Life is life.)

[@treffryraxter]

My son and I just referred back to this video during our build, thank you

[@estelleandjason]

CONGRATULATIONS! This system is Fantastic! I know it will increase your efficiency and make it easier to care for your snakes..

[@adambrown3737]

i am a snake breeder and love the vision hachling rack as are so effective yet so cheap

[@EddVCR]

I wish the racks had flat tops so they’re easy to dust. Very neat rack system though! ... and here I don’t even have any reptiles

[@nancydixon2385]

Enjoyed watching you both setting up this rack system, great for people who have a lot of snakes.

[@NothingButGiggles]

Weird question, would you ever do a video on the rodents? I’m guessing they are for food, but it would still be educational.

[@FrazzledNiya]

they should make the front stoppers as rubber that stops it from being pushed out but something you can pull out to check the babies.

[@addysonmyers1895]

I used to hate snake now I absolutely love them 😁 Your channel help me a lot. P. S my teacher has a snake 🐍

[@mikeyamante8997]

You got me into loving snakes so now I have a 2 month old ball python

[@conorreidy25]

So Ted not only makes custom tanks/aquariums but can also teleport... wow

[@thepinkflamingostrikesagai7319]

That looks like the bins and racks I need to hold my crafting supplies. instead of heat tubing I want to use a LED light tubing.

[@Addysonn]

Ermeeegguuurrrddd No views, 23 comments Emily’s videos... Love it.

[@christinamarshall5946]

Why did you put pennies in the water?

[@madalynncirstea4900]

For the holes on the rack. You could probably find a type of tape that won't leave sticky residue if you do end up putting Garters in. That way they can't get out.

[@ash7265]

When your early and there are no funny comments to read 😑😑😕

[@wramos5639]

:/ Facts

[@stinkertonsden]

Emily, your face when you realized what was happening, is AMAZING!!! I've been there too!

[@ryanawilson8549]

I would have put the wiring in as I went. But I have OCD.

[@dremlokisdotter4205]

If I owned more than 1 snek I would totally be sold on this rack system right now.

[@sadfasdf742]

Isn't it stressing the snakes out to have the mice on top?

[@elizabethguenkine579]

Usually when I watch Emily do these videos I say to myself “wow Emily knows a lot, she is way smarter than me” but in this video I feel like Emily is like that to Ted 😂😂

[@itsgreyshull]

Ohh, those racks look cool. Just a few questions: where do you attach the thermostat and probe? And how would that work for the quarantine rack where it can house different snake species with different hot temperatures?

[@6strings735]

Probe goes under the shelf taped to the heat cable, or in a spare box above the heated area if you want best control. There is a range of temps that are fine for just about any snake species for quarantine, so one setting is usually just fine, especially for colubrids. It is more about how much floor area is heated, so under the larger boxes, run more heat cable. If a person really wanted to get picky, they could purchase 2 heat cables and two thermostats so they can have some shelves on one heater/thermostat setting and the other shelves on another. They sell smaller heat cable lengths for that.

[@itsgreyshull]

@@6strings735 I see. Thanks!

[@alternativeprincess4783]

Look at all the little babies! I wish snakes stayed that size, they’re so cute!

[@CricketthePigeon]

aaaah i cant believe you guys got Vietnamese blue beauties!!! they're my favorite species. I assume you might be breeding them because there's two?

[@alexandrac2472]

As someone who has pet mice and loves them sooo much, I love when snake owners and breeders raise their own feeders. You can do it at home much more ethically. It's like eating pasture raised chicken yeah you're still eating an animal but you know it got to have a happy life at least.

[@janinebean4276]

So cool! And relatively easy to set up (if you have the instructions or an employee :P) Honestly this is way more simple than even the simplest ikea furniture 😂

[@bjluther1]

Hi it’s me brenna we met at the Wisconsin reptile show I just wanted to say hi and that I’m a really big fan love your vids they are really helpful

[@michaelross5674]

So cool I like the rat and mouse cages too.... Now do the rat and mouse tubs go into the rack

[@kailaniwilcox2633]

I love the simplicity of these racks! Genius! EDIT: THOSE ARE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SNAKES I'VE EVER SEEN! VIDEO SOON IN THOSE BEAUTIES PLEASE!

[@grabbyhand2124]

I love this video and I'm watching this with my African fat tailed gecko Edit: What the name of the corn snake you got like I said my suggestion is Tango or Mango

[@ashleynoll6082]

no, his name should be Tango Mago!!!

[@aubreyackermann8432]

Mango tango

[@number1kuromistan651]

Aubrey Ackermann lol that’s the name of my favourite juice at a juice store near me

[@morganyork6965]

Baby African House snakes can also be very small and I would be worried about them getting through those holes at the top. Lovely rack system though. We built something similar but with enough room for the lid of the plastic bins to be placed on top of the bin, but not enough room for the snakes to pop the lid off. It took a lot of measuring to do this correctly and it is all made of wood. Very sturdy, but extremely heavy.