How To Sing With Grit: 4 Simple Steps for Complete Beginners

[@Dougzed]

Check out my brand new song "Winter Air" - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJzdhnp4fcanac0

[@schweckles]

My voice is so bad that I feel embarrassed while practicing even when nobody else is around.

[@Dougzed]

You need to get over that or else you'll never improve. You need to go to a secluded space and really give it a go

[@schweckles]

Doug Z Thanks. Your videos help btw.

[@t0rschlusspan1k]

Same here, lol. Which is why, at 25, I still cannot sing!

[@xaptronic]

There is a technique they use in courses like Dale Carnegie where they tell you to do something stupid in front of everyone else and then after they point out how no one's opinion of you really changed. I think singing and hearing yourself sing, especially recorded, is kind of like seeing yourself in a mirror, or in a picture. You just have to get used to what you sound like.

[@wing7991]

luckily I work night shift so I just belt it out in the car during my drive home and nobody else is on the road. I'm sure my neighbors appreciate it lol. just do basic breathing and the do ra mi fa so la ti da exercises. you can do it quietly and still get a good workout.

[@andrewljacob]

OH MY GOODNESS, I CAN SORT OF DO IT NOW--finally, a clear explanation! Time to make some demos!

[@yvan2218]

Oh look a singer who doesnt cup the mic. Glenn would probably be proud.

[@JessicaJurgenliemk]

Step 3 needs more explanation for sure. I have a naturally clear voice and really want to learn how to access the grit, but don't know how yo reach that overcompressed sound. Lots of people I imagine are going to be trying thar step 3 either with no succeas or with a lot of pain because they really don't know what to do to access that sound.

[@wilydingus]

First person to explain breath support to me in a logical and actionable way!!

[@00SNIVY00]

Managed to get a scream started, was able to sing along with a few songs from Linkin Park. Definitely started hurting after about two songs, but it's so cool being able to sing with the same vocal style!

[@hayleycomet8029]

This was so well explained - for the first time in my life I just heard my natural grit - and completely painless on my vocal chords! I'm in awe right now. Huge light-bulb moment, thank you so much!!!

[@wariorneverdie]

I know this video is pretty old but I'm having trouble on step 3. I can easily switch from breathy tone to a compressed one but when it comes to leaning it harder I always use my throat :((. Any help?

[@SimonGavriilidis]

start feeling the diaphragm by adding that 'pee holding' pressure, the tension should help overcompress your regular belting when adding force to get the grit. hope it helps

[@scene6289]

That Breath support one was the one that helped me the most

[@applesthecat]

You know I didn’t think I’d ever have to learn to breathe with my crotch muscles... as someone who has a naturally soft voice and a love for metal, I appreciate this whole video. Was definitely surprised by that part though 😂 Edit: I commented a bit early in the video. I learned how to fry scream by screaming along in my truck but could only do a harsh pure fry sound with almost none if any of my singing voice mixed it. I literally have been confused about that for months now and you explained it in a short KZbin video. Thank you so much!

[@gumbopuck1257]

I hear no grit in his vocals.

[@elvisosmanovic4846]

if u make analogy of voice grit and sandpaper..his voice would be....printer paper

[@dreaming18072010]

It is easier for a heavier voice like a baritone to do it. He is a tenor, so he sounds less heavy, but I can hear the same technique in his voice.

[@ctook]

Yeah it doesn't sound really gritty but that doesn't mean it's not compressed.

[@elvancor]

@@dreaming18072010 Is that true, or did you just make that up?

[@dreaming18072010]

@@elvancor Hey there. It is true. I am a voice teacher and I'm always searching and studying about singing =)

[@jonathangarheden3613]

I like how you explain, it helps alot, and also the reminder that it takes time to learn :)

[@DaJerseyJunkie]

This was great!

[@danlanny4484]

Damn mate!! Literally changed my vocals completely in 5 minutes. Amazing! ✌🏻

[@Dougzed]

Glad to hear it! Goodjob

[@danlanny4484]

Mate I’ve been practicing singing for about 10 years.. HORRIBLE start haha and this is just the piece I’ve been looking for!

[@prezlamen7906]

@@danlanny4484 Shit now you got me hooked. Same 10yrs situation. Cant wait for tommorow to try it out.

[@yoshi1325]

It's insane how easily this method is, I've been watching 20 videos lately and this one works 😂

[@TrueEmergency]

I was doin' right!! Thanks! You're so helpfull!

[@rabbithearted.1094]

I've only really figured out how to use grit in my breathy voice... I also haven't been able to use a fry scream much louder than a whisper scream... any suggestions?

[@dianavaldes7220]

EE Games He's got a whole video for it! also, you want to practice not more than 5 minutes a day (at least until you get the hang of it) so that you don't lose any notes.

[@rabbithearted.1094]

Samidare chi yeah I'll keep working with it but I've been sick for like a month so I haven't been able to work on much at all for awhile xD

[@dianavaldes7220]

EE Games Damn :c hope you get well soon!

[@rabbithearted.1094]

Samidare chi me to

[@Dougzed]

I think you should do the over compressed grit, the breathy grit sounds a bit unhealthy. The fry scream definitely starts as a whisper scream. Be patient with it- it will only come with consistent practice

[@isetmfriendsofire]

I can't do it without feeling a burn, so I keep assuming that I'm doing it wrong.

[@SG-go4gu]

You are if it hurts

[@sjsjdjfjf5116]

If it hurts you’re doing it wrong for any kind of singing meyhod

[@cosmicnightowl3036]

It's hard to play and sing at the same time

[@xaptronic]

Yes! I'm working on this - For songs where the rhythms are much more complicated, I try to simplify while I'm practicing singing over it in order to get the over all timing more accurate and then gradually work in the complexity.

[@devin2151]

Its always been easy for me :/ keep practicing friend!!!!

[@marvintimke3978]

@@devin2151 Depends on what song you're playing

[@sparkkoo0]

@@marvintimke3978 for sure

[@Aaron_Berry]

My grit just sounds like a toilet flushing.

[@ThirdBirdTurdthatIdiot]

very metal of u

[@AsYouCanSee]

Amazing dude , wish u could be my teacher ... ugh ..

[@Dougzed]

Thanks man! But I definitely could be

[@diogofernandes4920]

amazing explanation thanks

[@sarahwaldroup1742]

Great video as always! Thank you! Can wait to hear the original songs. If you ever wanted to post some videos on songwriting (getting inspiration, writing a vocal melody, writing in the pop punk or post hardcore styles, etc) I would be very interested. If not, please keep the vocal training videos coming. I watch them all! Have a great day :)

[@Dougzed]

Hey Sarah! I definitely will do some songwriting stuff when all my music releases. Thanks for the support :)

[@michaelwest3964]

literally the holding pee part helped so much

[@_Daiquiiri]

True

[@ecila246]

Legit, going from breathy to regular to grit made it really click in my head, here I have been trying to learn how to do this for like 3 years and after 5 minutes here I have learnt more than I have in those 3 years lmfao

[@DianaPaipaMusic]

Genial!! Ya lo logré 🥰 y sin una pizca de dolor! Eres un gran maestro!

[@icaanul]

Seems like one of the most important steps is getting to the mix voice or higher first and then working in the rasp. Any lower and it seems like you want to try to use your throat and it inhibits the process. I found it easy to hit it with doing the kurt cobain style whine to the start of the phrase or the allanis morrisette yodel "thing."

[@jorgemartinez42069]

I know this video is a bit old now, but I'm curious about the "raising the pelvic floor" bit. Every teacher I've come across has said that you should actually try to push down on the pelvic floor to ensure proper engagement. Is this different for gritty vocals, perhaps? The explanation I've seen is that raising the pelvic floor will push the diaphragm up and create less space for your air which can be inefficient. However, I could see that if you're just trying to create as much internal pressure as possible for gritty vocals, then it might make sense to lift the floor to press upwards into your vocal cords. I'm just worried about potential strain/damage, so I want to be sure I understand correctly. Thank you!

[@loicdallaire1714]

how do you get the overcompressed tone??

[@marshmallowsandtrash]

Thank you so much. This is the first vid that has helped!

[@riharrds]

Thank you. Your technique helps a lot :)

[@Phoenix-et6mf]

I used to be able to do this just fine, but now I do it and I feel that burning or scratchy feeling in my throat? I had a sore throat the week before but it’s been a full week of rest? What happened?

[@soundboy89]

I've been trying to learn this for a while now, with this video this is the closest I've come to actually pulling it off! My throat feels a bit rough afterwards tho.

[@ariiincolur]

I know I’m a little bit late to this but remember to stay hydrated and take frequent breaks or you could seriously hurt your voice.

[@slitter4606]

same here and it dries quickly lol

[@riharrds]

Thank you!

[@Alex-no3co]

Hi Doug. Great lesson! Could you please make a tutorial about how to sing with vibrato. Thanks

[@UnDenomination]

Um doug can i use that "you can throw me to the wolves" thing for a song?

[@CaptainCocaine]

Ok, could you do a video on how to do step 3? That's actually the sound I was looking for.

[@mike35501]

What CAN i do instead of just lip roll

[@joeygalanti1097]

Do you have any videos or tips about making your tone sound whinier? I get a grungy sound like Bush when I do this. It sounds cool, but that's not what I'm after.

[@georgeelliot1493]

Thanks Doug

[@Bmokage]

I'm having a difficult time getting the overcompresion.

[@DeuceSF]

pearl Garden 1994 you need to use a lot of breath, I find that I have to sing very loud to get grit from compressing

[@Bmokage]

Deuce SFOD hey thanks, didn't expect a response.

[@DeuceSF]

pearl Garden 1994 it's all good, I mainly use it to do Dave Grohl songs lol

[@Bmokage]

Deuce SFOD cool

[@mettapeachhead2076]

@@DeuceSF Oh my god I think I just did it

[@alibobster0417]

Throne sick tune

[@andrewliu9596]

Is there any ways that I can belt high notes with my chest voice rather than a mix?? And how do I strengthen my Chest freaking Voice????😵😵😵😵

[@Dougzed]

Heavy chest dominant mix :)

[@MichaelBondarenkoMusic]

Thanks for the really easy to understand tutorial. But one thing I’m not sure about is what you mean by “leaning into it more for the grit” do you mean like push more air out?

[@thenoose9775]

You should make a video on music theory

OMG this is a great explanation!!! I tried it with doing that pelvis thing already in the beginning of the video and accidentally did the healthy grit xD I'm having problems with reproducing it again xD but I think I can maybe learn with exploring this technique further. I thought that this is impossible to learn for me (and I even learned how to do growl but grit...couldn't do it). Great video! 😀

[@ninjacat4123]

Thank you for your videos! :)

[@DarkGate90]

Great video as always! Can you explain maybe in the next video about the way austin carlile of OMM do his very different screaming? :D love your videos doug keep posting :D

[@nirvanaxl4043]

can you say how to sing like Austin John Winkler Hinder former vocalist??i love his screaming and i wanna learn that...!!!can u teach me that??))

[@dreaming18072010]

You're the best!

[@Dougzed]

Thanks for watching

[@magiemagicavrajita]

i just love you man! :X you do help!

[@Dougzed]

No problem :)

[@magiemagicavrajita]

thank you !

[@xaptronic]

Does the grit come from a similar place as the fry scream sound? I've just gotten into this, and it feels to me like these two sounds come from the same area (I think it's the soft pallette?) I feel it most like in the top of the back of my mouth, I get a slight tickle sensation.

[@Dougzed]

Yes! That's right. Notice how if you experience the tickle sensation, it is not permanent. It will pass after doing it for 20 or so seconds

[@xaptronic]

@@Dougzed Yes I do notice that. I will continue to work on both. You're videos have been very helpful. They are very straightforward and the fact that you don't use any processing really helps know what the raw sound should be like. Thanks!

[@Dougzed]

@@xaptronic Great. I hope you get the sound you want from your voice

[@gra55isno7gre3n]

Does this mean I can finally start a band?

[@TeeKay1990]

Very useful channel. Many thanks to you! :)

[@Dougzed]

I'm glad it's useful. Thanks for watching!

[@doitabs4021]

How to improve my falsetto?

[@Nathan-Howard]

I'm doing this and finding pain in my vocal chords, any advice?

[@Dougzed]

Please just do it softly and slowly and don't keep pushing it if it hurts

[@Nathan-Howard]

@@Dougzed thank you!

[@anjelopacla1312]

can you teach us how to sing like Tyler Carter.

[@kingzquarters4840]

You dont explain step 3 well enough. How do I overcompress?

[@Rusli1659LPSoldier]

I like how you have a thumbnail it says "Linkin Park". Chester has a hardest vocals I heard is "crawling", "faint", "One step closer" and others.

[@donavenhollow5709]

I wanna sing Lying From You in Karaoke someday lol

[@yuridanylko]

How would you do this lower like alice in chains or nirvana?

[@bruhmoment1145]

as far as i know, that's a conpletely different technique (can't quite say which), maybe he has a video on that too

[@sajidmahmud_]

Did you inhale through nose or mouth?

[@Dougzed]

Inhale through the mouth for singing

[@Lschwrtz]

I hear you that you need to "compress" the sound but to be honest you don't really explain how to do that or what it even means. You've kind of just compared it to a breathy sound and then showed us your examples. Can you explain what it means to make the sound compressed?

[@honeymarinade3935]

Glottal compression.

[@bruhmoment1145]

yo, maybe someone here can help me..? every time i try to overcompress my voice my throat just starts hurting (not much, but its nasty) and i start freaking out thinking im doing it wrong. maybe somebody here had such a problem?

[@Dougzed]

Okay, try compressing it much less. You can still make the grit sound without forcing the compression, usually it just ensures that the sound will not be too breathy

[@bruhmoment1145]

@@Dougzed oh, alright! thanks for the advice man!

[@psychlyeslg]

I guess I'll meditate too

[@colbywhetstone6335]

Metal band looking for a singer in the York/Lancaster Pa/Northern Baltimore area. Big influences: Metallica, ozzy, Judas priest, iron maiden, and, megadeth, and slayer. Needs to be able to practice weekly, chill, try and self improve Hit me up if you are interested

[@lancemoore7066]

I'm actually here because I was trying to sing like oli sykes but I broke my voice trying to sing happy song

[@Dougzed]

Yep it's really difficult

[@lancemoore7066]

Doug Zed thank you so much for the video it definitely helps and so far all your tutorials have done nothing but improve me, do you know any metalcore songs that are somewhat easy, I wanna be able to do something like of mice and men, architects, or even like moths to flames eventually but idk where to start....

[@Dayzzd]

I came in expecting some Jonny Craig grit lol. These grits are missing a few ingredients 😂. Still good tho

[@hkhk5304]

I can breathe from my diaphram but my voice still suck haha xD

[@ivanlostthreads1356]

architects bro ^_^

[@trevorsatori316]

If Keanu Reeves & Justin Long Had A Baby

[@jackoo666]

saw a dream theatre commercial at the intro. dream theatre is tool for virgins

[@sonic-excess]

Nickleback is so fucking good I don't give a shit what anyone says

[@xsaviorsphgs_ans_true6259]

03:38 you break the clean voice

[@crocodileman7790]

Nice hair btw

[@Dougzed]

Thanks!

[@AndrewBoydMusic]

yeh

[@wenjisbutter2882]

Lel I have a natural grit when i get loud enough

[@Dougzed]

Yeah, that's what most people wish they had. Not everyone can do it naturally, some need a bit of help aka. this video

[@wenjisbutter2882]

Doug Zed that's pretty cool 😁

[@Sherlsss01]

Am i the only one who read the Title as "How to sing with girl"??

[@DogeUSA]

Why do you sound better than the original 😩

[@jasperkoppelaar1635]

you really sound like vic from pierce the veil lmao

[@elisecode2212]

he does that on purpose, he loves vic, as do i :)

[@sulev111]

my throat gets hurt

[@evil1st]

i cant even sing

[@JoshZenpai]

wait this is yoga

[@partypoison5135]

im crying pee right now oh my god

[@lucasoheyze4597]

No way guys like Lennon, Kurt or Captain Beefheart did any of this shit.

[@Dougzed]

They did a lot of these things unconsciously. Natural singers can just open their mouths and make these kinds of tones without understanding what they are doing. With vocal training we are breaking it down step by step so anybody can learn to do it.

[@JamesTarghet]

oh no, he said Nickelback

[@michaelbennett8981]

I already liked this apparently. If you make a video teaching beginners then you should teach; not just demonstrate. It's a good video all the same. Wish you would use other rock styles over than the whinny teenager variety. I don't to be harsh, but this is important to address if you want to be a serious teacher of a craft

[@meuanglao7]

My guy, plenty of us adults love "whiny teenager rock" (it's usually called punk rock or alternative metal, by the way. Grunge also falls into "whiny teenager rock"). I am and always have been a big fan of Linkin Park, Nickelback, Seether, Three Days Grace, etc. Remember, back in the day Styx (my favorite band btw, and one of the most popular rock bands even today) was considered "whiny teenager rock". If you don't like alt metal, all power to ya, but don't shit on the people who do, thanks 💙

[@oscarmullen]

NICKELBACK?!! ARE YOU SERIOUS LIKE? GET THAT SHITE OUTTA HERE

[@Dougzed]

hahaha I regret it but I still stand by it

[@abhashprangogoi8363]

You've no grit man. Clickbaited

[@ra6160]

this tutorial failed to teach me

[@cian.o]

Butthead sucks

[@redrum427]

How to sing like a gay white boy

[@sean-mo9gf]

lmfao brutal