How to Solder QFN MLF chips Using Hot Air without Solder Paste and Stencils

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CuriousInventor

CuriousInventor

Күн бұрын

This video demonstrates how to solder .5mm pitch QFN chips using only hot air and a soldering iron, without solder paste or a stencil. It also discusses hot air temperature and air settings, and flux type.
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@OriginalJetForMe
@OriginalJetForMe 8 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. Very nicely produced, doesn't waste time, covers the alternatives before getting into the real content. Outstanding.
@jpabmx
@jpabmx 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if people realize just how small these qfn's really are. It's amazing to see this done with a solder stick!
@DucatiDude1198S
@DucatiDude1198S 8 жыл бұрын
I am really happy I stumbled upon this video. I have been soldering and repairing motherboards for years and this is very similar to how I do certain chip replacements. I don't often meet many people that even in this type prototyping spend the time to understand what is important and why. You are sure to have fewer failures and possibly next to none. Professional Video and Kudos.
@iamwilliamb
@iamwilliamb 14 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I love how clear you are on the explinations.
@susie3702
@susie3702 9 жыл бұрын
many thanks for posting this video I have never tried to solder these types of chip as I believed it to be beyond my skill level but after watching I think I am able to give it a try using the tips you have here. Regards Poppy Ann.
@AndrewDodson_AdamsAtoms
@AndrewDodson_AdamsAtoms 10 жыл бұрын
great flow on this how-to. I have a WQFN package I have to use because of its great thermal and current handling properties. I was worried but not any more!
@seveno1
@seveno1 13 жыл бұрын
retired electronics engineer from the 60s to mid 90s lost touch with latest techniques thanks for a well explained video
@technoshamanarchist
@technoshamanarchist 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is exactly what I needed.
@notoncemoreagain
@notoncemoreagain 11 жыл бұрын
Wow.. Great video. I've always been weary of QFN without the side connectors. Thanks!
@f5khan
@f5khan 12 жыл бұрын
Best solder tutorial ever.
@joeclectic
@joeclectic 12 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, very well done tutorial videos. So refreshing to see amidst the usual youtube garbage. Thank you!
@SirDizarm
@SirDizarm 14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another good vid. Hope to see more of them,
@justingreen8006
@justingreen8006 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. so clear!
@BOMBOVA
@BOMBOVA 10 жыл бұрын
good presentation, excellent, another learning moment for me, thanks. Nov. and Dec. is my build board time, going to be better this time out, thanks .
@yishujia186
@yishujia186 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips! Solder paste is just too expensive. I like this method.
@carl_84
@carl_84 14 жыл бұрын
Good video quality and very useful explanations. Thanks
@beautifulsmall
@beautifulsmall 11 жыл бұрын
if you don't have a heatgun . I have drilled a hole through the pcb center pad and used long pads for the connections so solder can be flowed in. Solder the perimiter pads first then the centre from the underside.The centre hole can be large and a copper foil on the underside will heatsink wonderfully. Nice video
@bli19ful
@bli19ful 10 жыл бұрын
Very inspired tutorial! thanks you !
@MRSketch09
@MRSketch09 14 жыл бұрын
Well, I have to say I wasn't sure at all what was going on in any detailed manner... because this is not my thing. BUT ... I still enjoyed watching. It was a learning experience.You explained everything nice and clear.
@callme1000
@callme1000 11 жыл бұрын
thanks for this tutorial, very useful for me.
@CuriousInventor
@CuriousInventor 12 жыл бұрын
@tkall You'd need to remove surrounding components first (or put them back later!), or cover them with kapton tape. You can also use kapton tape to prevent nearby plastic parts from melting. Surface tension does a remarkable job at keep small neighboring components from blowing away.
@Denisfk1985
@Denisfk1985 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for make it excillent toturial!
@Jez4prez
@Jez4prez 13 жыл бұрын
thanks for putting in the time to make these videos. I got alot to learn haha
@MengQiMusic
@MengQiMusic 8 жыл бұрын
Very detailed, thanks!
@fl4650
@fl4650 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@FrancescoCapano
@FrancescoCapano 9 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks!
@telegualin
@telegualin 11 жыл бұрын
Verry nice! More tutorials! Thanks!
@SMDSchablonen
@SMDSchablonen 11 жыл бұрын
This is a nice video , thanks to share with us :)
@deleteyourcomputer
@deleteyourcomputer 9 жыл бұрын
Nicely done vid. I have confirmed I won't be doing this.
@madmax10101
@madmax10101 14 жыл бұрын
rly useful vid :) TY for upload
@tts27a
@tts27a 9 жыл бұрын
thank u. great video.
@gortnewton4765
@gortnewton4765 11 жыл бұрын
This is a good video. Sorry that I accidentally hit the rate-down when I meant to hit the 'Add-to'.
@1000und1led
@1000und1led 11 жыл бұрын
nice tutorial.
@ig33ku
@ig33ku 14 жыл бұрын
Great vid, add a little help to the prob i am having with my hp compaq lappy that has the nvidia gpu on it. Apparently, the amd cpu overheats n desolders the nvidia gpu. Since it has no lead itself. I tried the oven method of preheating to 200C for 10 mins then turning it off n throwing in the mobo n it helped a bit but i am sure not all the solder joints r connected so i was considering the hot air method. Luckily, u guys released this vid. Gives me more insight on the prob.
@3mielu88
@3mielu88 8 жыл бұрын
for SAC305 the peak temp is around 230 to even 240 degrees. Soaking time about 2-3 mins
@rdc02271
@rdc02271 9 жыл бұрын
Hello, Thanks for uploading these helpful videos. May you please tell me what camera system do you use to zoom in while you are soldering? Thanks, J.C.
@EfieldHfield_377
@EfieldHfield_377 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very helpful video. EXCELLENT video quality BTW and well choreographed; its obvious you put a lot of time into this. HELP: I am horrible at QFNs, and I use solder paste. I have more issues with QFNs and cold joints then I do any other package combined, times 10. I use a liquid flux. What type of flux are you using, MFG and MFG PN if you have it handy.
@CuriousInventor
@CuriousInventor 14 жыл бұрын
@praxeological The meter wasn't measuring temperatures on the chip, so the numbers would have been misleading.
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 12 жыл бұрын
Brilliant !!!!
@originalchippy
@originalchippy 11 жыл бұрын
Terrific!
@haeseonii
@haeseonii 11 жыл бұрын
Great video. What kind of flux do you recommend?
@VEC7ORlt
@VEC7ORlt 14 жыл бұрын
Awesome, really neat how-to. MLC is rather easy, real pain is doing LGA... they have their pads recessed into the chip... Any comments on those ?
@killarmy220
@killarmy220 14 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot !
@zezeA380
@zezeA380 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DuM4R10
@DuM4R10 11 жыл бұрын
yes,100% good
@spleenharvester4four
@spleenharvester4four 11 жыл бұрын
Which wattage soldering iron should I use? Also, how do you tin the pads without getting a giant globe of solder across everything?
@jonhdoe1395
@jonhdoe1395 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! What microscope are you using?
@Zeron18
@Zeron18 11 жыл бұрын
is it safe to use flux under the board while trying to join the 2 parts together? I'm thinking of doing the same thing to join led boards onto mpcb boards with lux and a hotplate.
@praxeological
@praxeological 14 жыл бұрын
Why is the display on your meter obscured at 5:35? And thanks for the great vid!
@TheBypasser
@TheBypasser 12 жыл бұрын
Well, got a little nervous about soldering a QFN40 IC to be done during the prototype assembly planned for the upcoming week. Is the preheating required in this case? The package is really tiny, guess a standard hot air or even a pentorch method like with other SMD (mainly 0805 and alike) rework would be enough - or am I missing something?
@TomashPL58
@TomashPL58 13 жыл бұрын
@anceop Advice - DO NOT TAP a chip when solder is melt. It's making tragic shorts, allso u might use too much temp. It destroys chips usually shortening interior connections. And for third, what about other components? Maybe some condensators in parallel ?
@winsucker7755
@winsucker7755 14 жыл бұрын
Subscribed-thakns
@texdoms
@texdoms 9 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for posting this very nice video. Could you tell me when I can buy the flux that you are using in the video along with the exact part number? I have tried a different flux solutions but they dont look as clean as the one you use. Thanks so much!
@CuriousInventor
@CuriousInventor 9 жыл бұрын
twitter.com/ScottDriscoll/status/558261187553415168
@anceop
@anceop 13 жыл бұрын
i tried this method to solder idg500 gyro, initially when i check continuity between vcc and gnd i didn't get short but eventually after some time it gets short. i did this twice and both of the time after using it for 2-3 minutes i get vcc and gnd short. any advice would be great.
@silvestrealvarezgomora23
@silvestrealvarezgomora23 10 жыл бұрын
y como se llama el fundente o como lo pido
@kashturbocivic
@kashturbocivic 11 жыл бұрын
What small pre heater is that?
@Elamin008
@Elamin008 13 жыл бұрын
what the iron temperature @ 0:29 thank you sir that is very educative
@kallioras
@kallioras 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing video... However you soldered this QFN with no other tiny tiny components nearby. How can someone use the hot air method on logic boards with many components one next to each other, without damaging nearby components?
@MrVacceo
@MrVacceo 10 жыл бұрын
¿pueden explicarlo en español ?muchas gracias
@kuba2ve
@kuba2ve 12 жыл бұрын
Help! I'm trying to repair a broken micro USB connector in a HTC EVO 4G, I tried to use a Kester 951 Low Solids, No Clean flux... but it EVAPORATES when you put hot air on it!! What kind of flux should I use, and what type are you using in this video?
@thedest1ny
@thedest1ny 13 жыл бұрын
PLEASE HELP ME !!!! yesterday i was trying to repair the power switch on my dell inspiron 5160 laptop motherboard and i accidently solderd off a metal pad can this still be fixed???
@3Own3d
@3Own3d 10 жыл бұрын
what is the name of that plastic protector?
@baruchaviram1521
@baruchaviram1521 2 жыл бұрын
What was the tempreture you set?
@gabrielortizb
@gabrielortizb 10 жыл бұрын
What type or brand of flux do you use?
@ISMAILHAFIZZH
@ISMAILHAFIZZH 2 жыл бұрын
11 years old video, I am watching at 2021
@AgentOffice
@AgentOffice 11 жыл бұрын
Wow
@fargreat
@fargreat 13 жыл бұрын
what is the name of crystal liquid that u using before soldering ????/
@jrcampen
@jrcampen 11 жыл бұрын
From Wikipedia: The word solder comes from the Middle English word soudur, via Old French solduree and soulder, from the Latin solidare, meaning "to make solid". The only place in the world its called soder is in America.
@DannyWilliamH
@DannyWilliamH 2 жыл бұрын
Old but good video. However, any beginner should know that you cannot shield a component from heat with kapton tape. The tape itself can withstand high temps, not block high temps in any way. If you cover a plastic connector and blast it with hot air you will melt that connector.
@FASTBOOBS
@FASTBOOBS 11 жыл бұрын
4:49 what is that clear gel?...what for?..what's his name?
@nicksonyap
@nicksonyap 11 жыл бұрын
Can I use a jet lighter at a distance instead of a hot air blower?
@tttuberc
@tttuberc 11 жыл бұрын
Please enable the slider on the video. Can't drag back and forth because when I click on it, it goes to YOUR LINKED in page
@Mudux
@Mudux 11 жыл бұрын
MLF? more like FML
@yrofbar
@yrofbar 12 жыл бұрын
what is a flux?
@AzVidsPro
@AzVidsPro 11 жыл бұрын
Your finger print is same as mine lol
@HK50468
@HK50468 10 жыл бұрын
Kapton tape
@milos1993milos
@milos1993milos 12 жыл бұрын
WOW,he have exactly the same fingerprint as me
@exscape
@exscape 12 жыл бұрын
Small size, low inductance. Not great for hobbyists, but they most certainly have their uses.
@FatBoySlim696
@FatBoySlim696 12 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression you shouldn't touch the leads and such with your fingers. Shouldn't you be holding with tweezers or an air pick? Or maybe lay the part on a surface and point to things with a pick?
@jrcampen
@jrcampen 11 жыл бұрын
Great tutorials, I love it, thanks for your time to make these. My only minor gripe is why do you call it "soder"? There is an L in solder and that's how it is pronounced. Or is this just another stupid miss translation by American speakers? Because everyone else in the rest of the world calls it Solder. as in actually pronouncing the L. Give it a try and see how you go.
@curiousengineer7126
@curiousengineer7126 10 жыл бұрын
Which flux is that?
@CuriousInventor
@CuriousInventor 9 жыл бұрын
twitter.com/ScottDriscoll/status/558261187553415168
@TheEgg185
@TheEgg185 12 жыл бұрын
thats what i saw...
@coyjones1
@coyjones1 11 жыл бұрын
im watching this but dont know why i dont do this
@fatqwert200
@fatqwert200 13 жыл бұрын
@fargreat flux
@Ghlargh
@Ghlargh 11 жыл бұрын
Great instructions, but you spend a little too much time talking about reflow temperature profiles. From what i can find these profiles are only really relevant with large volume production or extremely special multipart chips such as optical devices. I have soldered hundreds of QFNs with no regard for thermal profiles and only had one fail, and that one was removed and resoldered 3-4 times.
@bestamerica
@bestamerica 13 жыл бұрын
' heat / hot can ruin this black IC chip
@chuckjls
@chuckjls 4 жыл бұрын
This is great video. I guess the 104 down votes are from envious evil competitors.
@Pahrump
@Pahrump 13 жыл бұрын
@aptsys Like if you sold a girl some lemonade. You would say "I sold 'er some lemonade. Thanks!.
@Sephiroth241415
@Sephiroth241415 12 жыл бұрын
who else hthought they saw milf in the title
@paulkazjack
@paulkazjack 11 жыл бұрын
I DONT LIKE MLF CHIPS WAAAYY TOO FIDDLY AND UNESSECERY
@aptsys
@aptsys 13 жыл бұрын
Try saying solder correctly.
@dalriada842
@dalriada842 11 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as an official pronunciation. Americans pronounce it with a silent "l"; most other native English speakers pronounce the "l". This is just a part of the natural variation in speech. The etymological root of the word is irrelevant. Not only is Modern English highly irregular with regards to spelling, but you ignored the Latin and Old French predecessors, that had an "l"!
@grande1899
@grande1899 12 жыл бұрын
Dafuq did I just watch?
@worldentropy
@worldentropy 10 жыл бұрын
It happens to be S O L D E R not S A D E R :D
@WhileTrueCode
@WhileTrueCode 9 жыл бұрын
... regional accent, dude. envelope or envelope.. which is correct
@surajbhawal2474
@surajbhawal2474 9 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@techkitsune
@techkitsune 11 жыл бұрын
Why do we call it 'soder?" Because that's the OFFICIAL pronunciation. The L is MEANT to be silent. Starting back in 1325-75; (noun) Middle English soudour Never was an L in it to begin with.
@timramich
@timramich 11 жыл бұрын
It's a silent L in the US because it just sounds stupid if you try to say the L. Keeping the L works with a British accent because it's going to be pronounced like soul-durr. Now with an American accent try saying saal-durr.
@minamoradi7358
@minamoradi7358 2 жыл бұрын
You speak tooo fast
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