SMD Soldering - QFN Package

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Androkavo

Androkavo

Күн бұрын

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@chloemcholoe3280
@chloemcholoe3280 5 жыл бұрын
Soldering has never been so emotional
@Thesnowiswhite
@Thesnowiswhite 4 жыл бұрын
Emotions harm business. Emotions are not bad, but very dangerous.
@MrFrezeeTr
@MrFrezeeTr 4 жыл бұрын
Tears dropping from my eyes while watching it :'(
@yanyanyan25
@yanyanyan25 3 жыл бұрын
And soothing, calming and relaxing.
@electronicscaos
@electronicscaos 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone must agree that it is way better than that annoying beats in viral diy videos.
@vrushabhmaral7759
@vrushabhmaral7759 2 жыл бұрын
If you really loves work , then Brain will release good dopamine 😊 good presentation 🎉
@popiyag
@popiyag 6 жыл бұрын
This method looks very easy. But practically it is not. Usually we happen to do this kind of work as a rework. There are many parts already installed nearby. Here there are no other parts, no pads connected to ground. The thermal pad of the chip was ignored. And the board appears to be a double sided (two copper layers) only. When it comes to a board of eight ten layers with heavy density of copper and several pads connects to ground , picture is completely different. We have to use a hot plate to preheat, under the cradle, which holds the board and place everything under the microscope. Then we have to perform the soldering as in the video, sometimes with the help of hot air gun. Everything should be done very carefully, taking care not to burn any connector or part because under the microscope we can see very limited area only. When we perform our duty very carefully, the worst thing is our employer used to bring his laptop to show us these type of videos and points us " See , how quickly the youtubers do this."!!!!!!!!!!!
@vasiavasin5180
@vasiavasin5180 6 жыл бұрын
вот и хуй-то!!!а автору похуй на это!......и это,я бы слал на хуй таких клиентов!!!
@NicolaiSyvertsen
@NicolaiSyvertsen 6 жыл бұрын
For hobbyist projects you make sure to make PCB designs that make manual assembly easier. You don't use the smallest pitch ICs or 0603 passives etc. And chips like these are often soldered with solder paste and hot air.
@ManishKumarIITG
@ManishKumarIITG 5 жыл бұрын
Next time your employer says so, ask him to hire the youtuber.
@aaliyahagwan
@aaliyahagwan 5 жыл бұрын
@@NicolaiSyvertsen Yes
@aaliyahagwan
@aaliyahagwan 5 жыл бұрын
@@ManishKumarIITG 😂😂😂
@Virtu0city
@Virtu0city 6 жыл бұрын
Two o'clock, middle of the night and I’m watching some random dude soldering... Good night
@siriokds
@siriokds 3 жыл бұрын
The same, at 3am. Two years later in the middle of pandemia.
@zoraamethyst2147
@zoraamethyst2147 3 жыл бұрын
3 am and us
@DavidockAI
@DavidockAI 3 жыл бұрын
Same but in 2021
@freemasonry666
@freemasonry666 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 am
@homelessguy3266
@homelessguy3266 7 күн бұрын
Same as me, mate... 5 o'clock in the morning 😅
@alexm7056
@alexm7056 4 жыл бұрын
This method only works well for a footprint designed for "handsoldering" with iron. That is why pads on breakout board are long enough so it is easier to get heat transfer with regular soldering iron tip.
@hansfritz7827
@hansfritz7827 5 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the power pad under the part, you need hot air to mangage to that :)
@klazzera
@klazzera 11 ай бұрын
it can also be achieved with soldering iron from below since there is thermal connection
@JoseGustavoAbreuMurta
@JoseGustavoAbreuMurta 3 жыл бұрын
I managed to weld a 0.5mm QFN 28. I learned with you. Perfect! Thank you very much!
@richardsilva-spokane3436
@richardsilva-spokane3436 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent macro photography and editing. Perfect soldering technique 👍👍👍👍👍
@The.Ordinary.People
@The.Ordinary.People 6 жыл бұрын
I think there is a big issue, no solder on the ground/central pad if it's necessary.
@shost58
@shost58 6 жыл бұрын
not good, need thermo fan for soldering central thermopad chip
@thomas_2412
@thomas_2412 4 жыл бұрын
Damn... the music makes it soooo refreshing
@weinickchan
@weinickchan 6 жыл бұрын
i like your confidence anchoring the second spot without checking if there is any misalignment..
@MeepMu
@MeepMu 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen something so beautiful in my life!
@serviciotecnicotab3115
@serviciotecnicotab3115 2 жыл бұрын
MUY BUENOS TUS VIDEOS GENIO NOS INSPIRA A TODOS LOS QUE HACEMOS ESTO SALUDOS DESDE ARGENTINA
@johnsim3722
@johnsim3722 6 жыл бұрын
The advantage you have here is the large pads to allow you to use a relatively large tip when soldering. It's sucking the solder up from the joint. Problem is that when you follow the manufacture's footprint guide you get minimal area. In production thankfully I'm using a stencil and a convection oven. But sometimes I do need to rework these devices and what I do isn't too dissimilar to this video. Using a large chisel tip iron, lots of flux (liquid rather than paste) and make a big blob of solder to be dragged along the side of the IC. Replacing these ICs you need hot air. What I've also found is that with ICs that have a large thermal pad you also need to add a heater underneath the board. Set it to 100 / 150C so that your hot air has less work to do. You'll do less damage, or none at all, this way! Replacing just carefully put down some solder paste, you don't need much, and then again back to the hot air. But they really are an absolute pain these packages!
@omarquispe4556
@omarquispe4556 5 жыл бұрын
I u u
@cris101879
@cris101879 5 жыл бұрын
77ii
@user-rs8zg8ey2b
@user-rs8zg8ey2b 5 жыл бұрын
QFN are a breese, csp even easier, what is tough is the new 56 Gbaud packages.
@hugepines3990
@hugepines3990 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-rs8zg8ey2b BGA1156 ;P
@user-rs8zg8ey2b
@user-rs8zg8ey2b 4 жыл бұрын
@@hugepines3990 We now have 60x60mm 3488 pad packages (80amps), these need everything correct to get them working. I still believe the 56 Gbaud are the hardest, everything needs to be perfect.
@matthewpeterson5159
@matthewpeterson5159 4 жыл бұрын
watching this makes me ask myself why I waited so long to get into SMD (as a hobbyist)
@tonyennis1787
@tonyennis1787 3 жыл бұрын
Be prepared to practice for a long time.
@ДмитрийДубравкин
@ДмитрийДубравкин 5 жыл бұрын
А пузо-то не припаял? Надо-бы сначала феном...
@vas9l.matb.vashu888
@vas9l.matb.vashu888 5 жыл бұрын
У него просто для показа, так задевает, а тебе конечно, феном надо будет угреть
@vas9l.matb.vashu888
@vas9l.matb.vashu888 5 жыл бұрын
Дыру видел в плате под микорсхмой? Второе, у него была цель пузо паять? Или ноги тока?
@Евгений-ж2и3у
@Евгений-ж2и3у 5 жыл бұрын
Вот вот, а у пуза как обычно земля и микруха не заработает, или вообще в аут уйдет!
@aleksandrmatlachov3934
@aleksandrmatlachov3934 4 жыл бұрын
Перегреется и сдохнет, так нам и надо.
@Thesnowiswhite
@Thesnowiswhite 4 жыл бұрын
Платон Карпов, цель была убить микросхему? "Пузо" к плате паять надо обязательно. И потом каждый слесарь знает где бывают дырки. Отверстие это не мешает никак. Феном не феном, а залудить выводы микросхемы перед пайкой обязательно надо (Есть исключения. Но не в данном конкретном случае.). )
@martinwashington3152
@martinwashington3152 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, I'm getting in to SMD/SMT boards myself and this video was very well presented and explained :) I'll subscribe :D
@briandelgado3726
@briandelgado3726 5 жыл бұрын
Tut tut 6⁵⁵33 a eoyeruyuey3y3ygggegertgrte tree teddy toy tree
@samuelgonzalez317
@samuelgonzalez317 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, you make this look like art
@janbalga7702
@janbalga7702 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice work. Great close-up.
@Pixell_Eletronica
@Pixell_Eletronica 5 жыл бұрын
Perfeito! Eh gratificante e relaxante ver um trabalho assim bem feito
@oskimac
@oskimac 5 жыл бұрын
the saddest qfn soldering video... :-(
@MarioMartinez-vl4wf
@MarioMartinez-vl4wf 5 жыл бұрын
when said "unfortunately solder mask damaged..." plus the music, I almost cried
@berembah
@berembah 5 жыл бұрын
They use the video plot in latest movie, really sad. The move title I think "You beautiful feet shower my lip"
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 6 жыл бұрын
I see this particular package type causing a lot of cold solder failures in equipment we repair. Seems that the TQFP packages are better as their actual leads are more capable of dealing with thermal expansion?
@TheOriginalSycHolic
@TheOriginalSycHolic 6 жыл бұрын
if you didnt notice the best joints he did was the 2nd row when he did only a few at a time and started away from it and slid in lightly touching the side of the chip with the tip only... 2:45 But here is a question the small brown pads in the corners is that for automated grip points or they maybe ground or heatsink contact points or something? also long as the trace isnt damaged you can always paint over trace cover with a matching clearcoat and use alcohol to blend the edges.
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Жыл бұрын
The brown bits are exposed parts of the leadframe that have been cut flush, they help to keep the leads and the IC from moving while they encapsulate the part. The leads are cut and trimmed and the rest of the leadframe is removed at the same time.
@mikaelkalki3171
@mikaelkalki3171 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a beautiful video
@sergeydanilin5204
@sergeydanilin5204 5 жыл бұрын
Если так на печатке запаять - не сложно. Плюс брюхо не пропаяно. Я паяю так: аккуратно залуживаю посадочное место и чип. На чипе должны получиться бугорки на выводах. Совмещаю чип и посадочное место. Грею феном до момента посадки. Проверяю микроскопом правильность посадки.
@e.w.2396
@e.w.2396 5 жыл бұрын
Simply the best !!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
4 жыл бұрын
Very professional, excelent work
@ВладимирК-ф8ф9д
@ВладимирК-ф8ф9д 2 жыл бұрын
У этой микросхемы должно ещё припаиваться пузо, поэтому - термофен. Нужно облудить все контакты до пайки. То, что ты показал - конечный этап для контроля посадки микросхемы.
@HOLLYWOODlosANGELES
@HOLLYWOODlosANGELES 5 жыл бұрын
*C'est bien présenté, j'ai compris maintenant comment souder ce type de composants. Merci*
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 3 жыл бұрын
Still came out clean and perfect!
@nheng6913
@nheng6913 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, love the wave effect. It's so easy on boards without ground planes and on leaded solder though. And no thermal pad. Can be a living hell without preheater on bottom and proper temperatures/times.
@elbakkali
@elbakkali 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video super my friend
@puaktopblm
@puaktopblm 7 жыл бұрын
А подложку припаять?
@killerpigszombi3382
@killerpigszombi3382 6 жыл бұрын
Если микруха не нагревается то не нужно
@ТолянКурасава
@ТолянКурасава 6 жыл бұрын
Подложку потом на саморезы там есть дырочки
@killerpigszombi3382
@killerpigszombi3382 6 жыл бұрын
NEY Industries, ну это логично, но по факту я так понимаю это делалось что бы сделать видео перфекциониста. Так же можно снизу прогреть и подложка прихватится
@3JIbIDEHbv2
@3JIbIDEHbv2 6 жыл бұрын
у Россмана гораздо лучше видео по пайке "qfn + Rossman" kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6OUhomGqKqrn6c
@alexkross125
@alexkross125 6 жыл бұрын
С обратной стороны олова лупануть через отверстия
@bjl1000
@bjl1000 6 жыл бұрын
for the central ground pad , I would put solder in the hole , from the bottom and heat the pad through the hole with my soldering iron.
@clkunde
@clkunde 6 жыл бұрын
I preffer to use hot air to sold QFN's packages, specially because the central pad!!!
@branieffpulido
@branieffpulido 4 жыл бұрын
If there was a reaction of I love it on youtube I would put it ... that work so neat and perfect I loved it
@themadatheist1976
@themadatheist1976 3 жыл бұрын
Nice debating if I should get cheap hot air gun or just use my soldering iron to add the 2nd m.2 connector and the capacitors for my laptop MSI decided to leave off.
@mhwong1865
@mhwong1865 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to solder the thermopad/GND Pad that located underneath the chip ,which may be very important for the performance of chip align with the specification.. when soldering QFN with thermopad . hot air soldering and drag soldering method shall be applied
@agustinflorespatolin7333
@agustinflorespatolin7333 6 жыл бұрын
Excelente pero una duda la parte de en medio no es necesario soldarla?
@AThreeDogNight
@AThreeDogNight 7 жыл бұрын
You make this look really easy although I know that it is not, especially with a soldering iron. You must have done this for quite a while now.
@UCanDo
@UCanDo 3 жыл бұрын
Какой микроскоп вы используете?
@marciosouza5864
@marciosouza5864 5 жыл бұрын
Muito bom seu trabalho, deixo aqui saudação do Brasil.
@sophon1999
@sophon1999 6 жыл бұрын
มาเป็น Fc sub ใหม่ครับ
@chino123224
@chino123224 5 жыл бұрын
What type of microscope you use??? And thanks for the videos saludos desde mexico
@michaelschecker2716
@michaelschecker2716 5 жыл бұрын
I solder QFN with hot air in 1/100 of the time. The best moment is when the QFN allign itself.
@Peter.Jensen
@Peter.Jensen 5 жыл бұрын
Please show 🧐
@DatagorElectronics
@DatagorElectronics 7 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. And what about a big central thermal pad? It can't be done without a fan, isn't it?
@MrMubeenyou
@MrMubeenyou 7 жыл бұрын
MrDatagor i think there should be heat sink paste under IC chip
@Androkavo
@Androkavo 7 жыл бұрын
Some vias holes in thermal pad allow you solder on top or bottom layer by soldering iron
@DatagorElectronics
@DatagorElectronics 7 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@DanielKolar-qo4ci
@DanielKolar-qo4ci 7 жыл бұрын
And some ICs have on this pad GND power pad. We are using hot air gun for these chips
@Bavlogic
@Bavlogic 7 жыл бұрын
Androkavo and what if no holes on the other side??? And it's 90% of the time
@ok-eh7zm
@ok-eh7zm Жыл бұрын
you make it look so easy
@ТимТимыч-э9х
@ТимТимыч-э9х 6 жыл бұрын
Просмотрев видео вспомнил ролик где чувак говорил это просто охуеный зум 🤣
@kynkai
@kynkai 7 жыл бұрын
this is so satisfying
@revenger9900
@revenger9900 5 жыл бұрын
True😋
@bidz1947
@bidz1947 5 жыл бұрын
Concur. Most therapeutic... N relaxing I find when replacing large SMD ICs.
@WhatAWondWorld
@WhatAWondWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Красиво! Спасибо!
@beteadaniel2240
@beteadaniel2240 5 жыл бұрын
Soldering only the terminals of component without the soldering the thermal pad can lead to malfunction due to overheating. For this type of component air heat soldering method is better to be used.
@adamw.8579
@adamw.8579 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, preheater and hot air, basic tools for SMD repair. Others methods are patchworking and not reliable.
@StoesA
@StoesA 5 жыл бұрын
Funny, taking a QFN package and soldering it to an extension board... Good soldering though!
@karmachameleon600
@karmachameleon600 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it is required when you need to test the circuit on breadboard.
@KaiDon1
@KaiDon1 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy listening to the backgrond music.... very relax.
@Majidmohamod
@Majidmohamod 5 жыл бұрын
Me too, you can find it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pniqnquchp6ieNE
@burntable
@burntable 3 жыл бұрын
2:34 thanks for keeping it real!
@fadifadi-4u
@fadifadi-4u 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifull work!!!
@MartinWar
@MartinWar 4 жыл бұрын
1:12 Why we need flux on the two corners ? (or it is soldering paste?) What kind of flux can be cleaned by alcohol?
@robin_dong
@robin_dong 6 жыл бұрын
Use flux to fix the QFN-chip looks like a good idea. I will try this method later.
@elcomentador2408
@elcomentador2408 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video, like the music.
@MovilOne
@MovilOne 5 жыл бұрын
Good! 👍
@謝坤宏-r8z
@謝坤宏-r8z 5 жыл бұрын
you don't need any soldering for central Ground pad? oh, there are some people mentioned.
@rechtsgelijkheidvooriedere9419
@rechtsgelijkheidvooriedere9419 2 жыл бұрын
Huw abouut the heatsnik pad at zee underzide ¿
@AsthmaQueen
@AsthmaQueen 3 жыл бұрын
actually makes me think doing a QFN might be easier since the tabs are so small and less likely to bridge than TQFP.
@mattlanderclairzil7316
@mattlanderclairzil7316 5 жыл бұрын
Goog work bro..
@tamyboy1
@tamyboy1 6 жыл бұрын
It is a totally different ball game when those leads are not this long. Which is 99.9 percent of the time. But thanks for the video
@user-rs8zg8ey2b
@user-rs8zg8ey2b 5 жыл бұрын
And with high speed signals (these are not), you cannot solder to the leadframe (side of package), well you can, but it reduces high speed preformance.
@MadJDMTurboBoost
@MadJDMTurboBoost 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-rs8zg8ey2b Why is that? I was under the impression those were just test points and if solder sticks to them theres no issue. I'm curious why that would impact high speed performance?
@user-rs8zg8ey2b
@user-rs8zg8ey2b 5 жыл бұрын
@@MadJDMTurboBoost My company is doing the bleeding edge of tech, high speed data, each year we reduce the sice of the ac coupling caps, 0402, 0201, 0105, etc, each disturbance of the high speed signal has a reflection, the smaller the component the less reflection. The pads on the part keeps getting smaller, so now you cant solder to the leadframe like I did 5+ years ago, it just screws with the signal (in a bad way).
@mineown1861
@mineown1861 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that metal siphon you had on top of the alcohol bottle ?
@mohamadaldarwish6678
@mohamadaldarwish6678 5 жыл бұрын
Professional 😍👍
@r3montickplay951
@r3montickplay951 6 жыл бұрын
Great Job !!! Thanks for the cognitive Video =)
@nikolaykalinin3395
@nikolaykalinin3395 5 жыл бұрын
Прекрасная пайка,очень аккуратно и с умом!
@RahulElectronicspoint
@RahulElectronicspoint 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video sir
@zubershaikh5546
@zubershaikh5546 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice which tools you use plz tell me I'm waiting for you sir
@TheAerotrike
@TheAerotrike 6 жыл бұрын
Перед установкой лудится и плата и корпус мс потом феном припаять. схема сама центруется. Излишки припоя при нажатии выходят в виде шаров.
@killer199786
@killer199786 4 жыл бұрын
Всем русскоязычным 1) он не припаял массу микросхемы, которая одновременно выступает теплоотводящим элементом 2) паечные мосты снимаются только чистым жалом при нанесении флюса каждый раз 3) он за каким то чёртом снял старый припой, и сам же написал что нужно быть осторожным, для тех кто не в теме объясню, если много тыкать паяльником в такие посадочные места, то контакт просто перегреется и оторвётся от текстолита А вот вам инструкция как надо делать 1) Аккуратно лудим площадки с флюсом, в т.ч. и массу(пузо) на печатной плате 2) включаем фен на 270 градусов и усаживает микросхему на свое место 3)еле еле толкаем микруху под феном, если микросхема вернётся на свое место, то убираем фен, она на своем месте 4) если есть не пропаянные ножки, аккуратненько с флюсом тонким жалом пропаиваем каждую отдельно а не все подряд Профит, микросхема установлена
@TheBypasser
@TheBypasser 7 жыл бұрын
Neat, but not a QFN soldering you expect :) The "real" one is not much harder though, the main difference is you also have to tin the package terminals to get the same pillow shape as you got on the PCB pads. And better use a blowtorch with a catalytic nozzle as advised in some (can't recall which one exactly) repair note instead of hot air gun, makes things way easier as nothing gets blown off.
@tforgo
@tforgo 7 жыл бұрын
Great footage quality. I would aprecheate voice over music. Explaining stuff, pros and cons. Etc.
@hightttech
@hightttech 5 жыл бұрын
Nice camerawork.
@DSD-u2m
@DSD-u2m 4 жыл бұрын
What is the temperature when you solder this IC?🙏🙏🙏
@ilangokrishnan5956
@ilangokrishnan5956 6 жыл бұрын
You didn't soldering center thermal pad and using more flex on rework.it is very easy work .
@customthings3081
@customthings3081 6 жыл бұрын
And what about the power pad? how did you make the soldering?
@АндрейБондаренко-г1ы8ы
@АндрейБондаренко-г1ы8ы 2 жыл бұрын
Отличная работа👍
@thecoba42
@thecoba42 5 жыл бұрын
Hey all, I've been trying to find some flux cleaner like OP used in his video. The dispenser looks pretty practical, can someone point me to where I could find that kind of bottle ? Thanks !
@gateitogototo8976
@gateitogototo8976 3 жыл бұрын
it's pretty important to use the thermal pad too
@IsaacOLEG
@IsaacOLEG 3 жыл бұрын
very nice, but some have a middle leae part, joined with one of the pins, I suppose then one cannot avoid hot air is not it ?
@SoorajGopakumar
@SoorajGopakumar 7 жыл бұрын
That was nicely done!! What magnifier do you use?
@pierdolio
@pierdolio 6 жыл бұрын
Why is your image so clear compared to others, I've seen, doing the same thing with a microscope?
@melissayang7067
@melissayang7067 5 жыл бұрын
hi Adam, we are selling microscope, you can see them in my channel.
@Ivan....Ivanov
@Ivan....Ivanov 4 жыл бұрын
Лютый флюс... Даже маску жрет )
@MrPepe2162
@MrPepe2162 Жыл бұрын
How's underneath on that one how you engage good connection if there's no re-heat under components.
@huczula3534
@huczula3534 5 жыл бұрын
In which temperature you soldering?
@mdkashemali3451
@mdkashemali3451 4 жыл бұрын
You can also use Hand sanitizer instead of the alcoholic flux remover, because hand sanitizers also has alcohol mixup more than 70%...
@jasonmorgan661
@jasonmorgan661 4 жыл бұрын
Theres that damb toothpic and same can of flux....😌 love it lol.😃
@buckler19
@buckler19 6 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a comprehensive tutorial about the basics of IC technology? (PCB fabrication, main surface amount elements and their function, main applications)
@mhwong1865
@mhwong1865 2 жыл бұрын
Use Solder paste method with drag soldering is most suitable for QFN chip that have thermal pad
@kobtcom
@kobtcom 5 жыл бұрын
the ground under chip is not solder. so effect to chip high temp. and unstable work
@tarekfiliachi6350
@tarekfiliachi6350 6 жыл бұрын
NICE SOLDERING AND VIDEO.
@PiotrK2022
@PiotrK2022 3 ай бұрын
@Androkavo LOL, center pad should also be soldered, because in that case solder acts as thermal-paste and center pad acts as heatsink... Without it chip may overheat na fail again.
@masprassaja3818
@masprassaja3818 6 жыл бұрын
So satisfying, next buy flux. :)
@chinthakasandamal8283
@chinthakasandamal8283 4 жыл бұрын
Super smooth
@htd7814
@htd7814 4 жыл бұрын
Hello ! What kind of camera do you use to record videos? Verry clear image. Thank you
@rcarioca
@rcarioca 3 жыл бұрын
Questionable soldering by relying on contact with bare copper side pins
@UedersonThec
@UedersonThec 6 жыл бұрын
Very good! Trabalho muito bom!
@MaquinasAbiertas
@MaquinasAbiertas 5 жыл бұрын
You missed the power dissipation pad.
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