How To Sublimate A Tumbler From Start To Finish!

[@marimillions856]

I watched 8 videos today about this sir and literally yours helped me most. THANK YOU! Def gained a new follower

[@industrialfringe953]

That’s so wonderful to hear! Welcome, new subscriber!

[@SuperCgonz]

I think you did a great job! I learned more here than any other sub oven tumbler video, thank you

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much! And thank you for watching!

[@lynnebizlyne436]

Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed your tutorial. It’s very true that each tumbler doesn’t come out exactly the same on the tops and bottoms. I have done exact same method on each tumbler and one turns out great and the next might have minor ‘ghosting’ on top or bottom and sometimes both! Luck of the draw I guess lol I thought the idea of adding a QR code was really cool. I also like the care card addition. Thank you again!

[@industrialfringe953]

I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

[@labluedahlia]

You make this look so much easier than it has been for me.

[@industrialfringe953]

This wasn’t my first tumbler! Keep trying. It’s interesting that what works for some doesn’t work for others. Even with me, I found that very lightly wrapping the top and bottom of my tumbler was best for the oven, but I need to wrap tightly for my tumbler press! Go figure! Let me know if you have any questions!

[@debschmid1366]

Thank you for your tips! I made my 1st one tonight and I'm so happy with it!

[@industrialfringe953]

You are so welcome! And thanks for watching!

[@tonie1106]

It’s creation and it doesn’t have to be perfect, I love it thanks for sharing

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks for watching!

[@kingjeffishere]

Definitely like how these came out.

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you!

[@teachermariledin523]

Thank you so much for your tips!

[@industrialfringe953]

I’m so glad you were able to watch! Thanks!

[@andreamontgomery3278]

Thank you for this step by step video, I’m new to sublimating tumblers so this is very helpful! Can’t wait to try it out! Why do you use the rubber bands on the top and bottom of the tumblers?

[@industrialfringe953]

You know, Andrea, I struggled with using them. The theory is, they are added pressure on the edges to try and keep good clean sublimated edges. I wasn’t sure they worked when I first started using them, and even stopped for a short while. I ended up thinking they weren’t hurting, and maybe they were keeping the edges sublimated a little better. I’m not 100% sure they’re even needed. If I sub in my oven again, I may or may not use them. I’ve found a much better way to tape the edges, so I’ll probably just tape them well. (I have a video on taping the edges if your interested. That video is for a press, but I’d probably tape the exact same way if I were to use the oven.) I always used a shrink wrap in the oven. There are a lot of folks that use blue painters tape or no wrapping at all. I wasn’t able to get away with no wrapping, and I hated the sticky residue left behind from using blue painters tape. Hope that helps! And thanks for watching!

[@karenbullington878]

Thank you for your help. I made my first tumbler tonight, it was a fail. My husband thought I was burning the house down when the smoke detectors started flipping out and going off🙄. Someone else had said to do 400 on my oven for 6 minutes. So not only did I freak out my husband and the dogs I burnt my tumbler, the ink is on but the tumbler is burnt randomly all over, sparkly but burnt. 😢 I will try your way tomorrow.☺️

[@industrialfringe953]

Karen, you’re not the first person to set off the fire alarms! When I first started, I did the exact same thing, 400 for 6 minutes. It was difficult for me to reduce the time or the temp. It just didn’t seem right. But it was! Whatever you do, if you don’t already have one, get an oven thermometer. The odds are extremely high that your oven runs hot. Almost all of them do. If you have any more challenges, let me know and I’ll see if I can help out. (Better me than the fire department!) Good luck!

[@karenbullington878]

@@industrialfringe953 I have two thermometer's one on each side ( believe it or not one side runs hotter than the other). But 350 for 5 minutes is working for me now. Thanks again for helping me find my sweet spot, and no more smoke alarms going off.

[@MaribelMedrano85]

Good video I learned how to sublimate thank you. My question is when you put the tumbler without a rack just straight on the oven bottom would it not burn the tumbler since it is direct with the heat bars

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks for asking! My oven doesn’t have that issue for two reasons. First, it’s a convection oven, so the heat is circulated by the internal fans, and on mine, the heating elements are toward the back and front, on the top and bottom. I do have a silicone pad on the bottom of my oven, but that’s in case any shrink wrap melts! Thanks for watching!

[@15kae_lus]

Thank you so much for your help!

[@industrialfringe953]

You’re quite welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@industrialfringe953]

You’re quite welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@lovebirdcustom]

Great video! Thank you for sharing your expertise!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you, Mark!

[@sharonallen5]

This was great information, thanks a bunch.

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much!

[@cathyhall7457]

I like your video what are the settings on your microwave for the Tumblr because I have now burnt 2😢😢😢...... Mine is a Black & Decker and does not have a turbo button or knob

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Cathy! I’m guessing you don’t mean microwave! If so, do NOT use a microwave! Regarding convection and toaster ovens (which I think you’re referring to), only use the oven settings to get you in the general proximity, then adjust those settings based on what your internal thermometer says. Ovens are notoriously off regarding temperature. An inexpensive internal thermometer from Walmart will get you close enough. (And I shoot for 365.) I believe I have a link to one in the description. Make sense? Thanks for watching!

[@katzbaugh9806]

Really enjoyed your video’s. Thank you for all your information 😺 I’ve subscribed to your channel too!

[@industrialfringe953]

Fantastic! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@lindabroome9577]

Very informational. I don't see the link to the shrink wrap!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks! I get my shrink wrap from Alibaba when I order tumblers tinyurl.com/y2zamc9b but if you’re not making a large overseas order, I get them from rtssublimationblanks.com Thanks for watching!

[@TYJ419]

Great video and thanks for showing your whole process. Tracey

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you!

[@esmeraldarodriguez6174]

Thank you for this video! Very helpful. I noticed that I have to take off the sublimation paper off immediately after taking the tumbler out of the oven or the sub paper sticks to my tumbler? Any recommendations on that?

[@industrialfringe953]

I take mine off quickly as well, more so to easily get the tape off than the stinking paper, but that’s also a benefit. There are a few reasons paper can stick to the tumbler. Too much heat, too much pressure (if using a press), and sometimes the sublimation coating on the tumbler hasn’t been correctly baked on. I haven’t done this, but I’ve heard if the latter is the issue, you can bake the tumbler for 20 minutes or so with nothing on it, let it cool, then sub as normal. Thanks for watching!

[@anavazquez84]

Love this video…what ink do you use?

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much, Ana! I use Cosmos Ink! Thanks for watching!

[@sheilaharris1184]

Very informative, thank you !

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you, Sheila! And thanks for watching!

[@graciesmom2019]

Great tutorial, thanks!

[@industrialfringe953]

I’m glad you enjoyed! Thank YOU!

[@rachelpettit5438]

Thank you for your videos! I've been itching to use the tumblers I bought. I loved that you were using a fairly inexpensive oven for these (especially since this one is on sale for on $50) but saw in your paper comparison video you are now using a press for your tumblers. Do you still think you get quality results w/the oven or in your opinion should I hold out & save up for a tumbler press? If you think the oven would suffice, would you still go with the same paper recommendations?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Rachel! I’ll start with the last question! Yes, I still recommend the same papers, regardless of using a press or oven. Now to the often-asked question, oven or press! And oven is more versatile and can sub things a press can’t. I started with just an oven and was fine, and I still have it to be able to use on odd sized things. Now for the press. I absolutely prefer it over the oven, mostly because I’ve created a routine and can make a bunch at once with the press. If you’re doing mostly tumblers, the press is the way to go. Two things. First, look at thrift shops for used ovens. You may be able to pick one up for $10-20, then you can save up and have both! Secondly, if you go with a press, I highly recommend staying away from Amazon and Alibaba, and go with a legit seller. I highly recommend Heat Press Nation, but I almost purchased mine from Pro World. Whatever you do, if you get a press, make sure you buy one where you can buy replacement heating elements! Thanks for watching!

[@rachelpettit5438]

@@industrialfringe953 Thank you very much! I appreciate you taking the time to help & share your insight w/me, it's all been very helpful!!

[@Shelly35able]

I made a much more successful tumbler! Thanks for the help.

[@industrialfringe953]

That’s fantastic!

[@killerjms21]

I just got one from condi in my black box. i have to try it but not with as much tap or bands

[@industrialfringe953]

Good luck, Michael!

[@shefields4470]

Great video thanks For sharing!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@suzyqcraft321]

Super smart idea for the seam love the I stole borrow my wife’s Cricut🤣🤣🤣

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you! And thanks for watching!

[@dontworrybehappy929]

I have an old countertop oven that is not convection. It was headed to charity, but will be a good craft oven. Temperature isn't that different in a convection oven, is it? I also have an oven thermometer at all times.

[@industrialfringe953]

I haven’t used a regular oven, but as long as you turn it a few times, it should be alright.

[@ItsNini08]

Have you done one without the shrink wrap? If so can I see

[@industrialfringe953]

Nicole, the only ones I did without shrink wrap in the oven were bullet tumblers. I used blue wide painters tape. (Down the road, I’ll be doing a video using that method.) If you can, join the Facebook group. There’s a post of the bullet tumbler in that group.

[@ItsNini08]

One more question, does your tumbler have to be in a standing up position or can you lay it down

[@charitagrant854]

Great video but there was no link to the shrink wrap paper! Thanks.....

[@industrialfringe953]

My apologies for not clarifying, I got the paper from the Alibaba supplier. Thanks for watching!

[@lisaschmitt5813]

Good job!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you, Lisa! And thanks for watching!

[@Shelly35able]

What program do you use to design? I’m trying to learn Inkscape. Would you be willing to do a tutorial on designing

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Shelly! I use Photoshop Elements (a light version of Photoshop). I have a couple of videos on using that program, and my next video is about using PE to make a tumbler image fit. Thanks for watching!

[@leadbsc]

Can you tell us where you got your plastic straws

[@industrialfringe953]

Absolutely, Beth. They came with the tumblers. Most places that sell sublimation tumblers include the straws. To add a little fun, I’ve also ordered these from Amazon to bring out some colors! amzn.to/3Bjg74g At $5.99, they come out to just under $.19 each! Thanks for watching!

[@tobiasmorgancreatives]

are you not using a tumbler press anymore? or do you get better results from the oven?

[@industrialfringe953]

I am using a tumbler press! This video is from about a year and a half ago. Now I only use the oven for tumblers when I’m doing something for the channel that I think will be beneficial to people that don’t have a press. I’ve been using the press just about exclusively for a year and a half now. Thanks for watching!

[@Lexli1977able]

what do you use to pint the right size? Cricut doesn't print that size

[@industrialfringe953]

I create and/or resize in Photoshop Elements, then save as the exact size I need. Then I print in Preview, the printing/viewing pdf preview app on my Mac. I print at 100%, and it comes out exact. I’m sorry, I’m not very familiar with the Cricut software. Thanks for watching!

[@JMo-i6m]

I’m curious. Do you know at what point the sublimation process stops?

[@industrialfringe953]

I’m no scientist, but it’s my understanding the process begins at around 350 degrees, so below 350 would be where you’d see it stop! I’m sure the 350 mark is a little gray, depending on ink brand, temperature, possibly humidity, etc.

[@katebayliss370]

How do I do a wrap for a 20oz what the cricut print and cut doesn’t print and cut larger than 25.22 x 16.54 cm, and a A4 printer will only print up to about 29cm

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Kate! I’m not familiar with how Cricut cuts (although last year I tried cutting some care instructions and know it was very limited in the size). For 20oz tumblers, I print onto an 8-1/2” by 11” piece of sublimation paper and it works just fine. My image dimensions are 9-1/4” x 8-1/8”, so it fits perfectly on A4 printers. Thanks for watching!

[@veronicacontreras4161]

Is the oven suppose to let out some smoke a bit from im assuming the ink on the images? Is it okay that it does that? My tumblers come out fine it’s just the tiny bit of smoke that comes out from the oven is what bothers me. I wear a mask while making the tumblers in the oven

[@industrialfringe953]

You know, I’m not sure I remember smoke coming out of an oven, but I do get it from my press. First and foremost, always be safe! Make sure your area is well ventilated and you’re using proper ppe. And thanks for watching!

[@creativecraftingwithcaroly9385]

Hi, do you have a link for the shrink wrap sheets please. I bought a convection oven but didn’t realize I needed to shrink wrap.

[@industrialfringe953]

I used to get them overseas from Alibaba. I had to buy a bunch! But I use smaller quantities now, as I usually press. Since I’m not ordering 100’s at a time, I now get them from rtssublimationblanks.com Thanks for watching!

[@creativecraftingwithcaroly9385]

@@industrialfringe953 thank you. I plan on making 20 oz skinnys. Is there a particular size I should get?

[@industrialfringe953]

If you’re just making 20oz, I recommend the medium (10” x 4.7”). Large will do 20oz and 30oz, but there’s more to shrink if you using it in a 20oz.

[@tiffanywarczinski2594]

How many do you at a time? Do you change your time if more than one?

[@industrialfringe953]

So far, I’ve only done one at a time, but I’ve heard you should increase the time by a little bit.

[@marilynclark8442]

What program are you using to print your designs? Thank you! Cricut design space will not let me something that large!

[@industrialfringe953]

Marilyn, I run all my images through Photoshop Elements to resize them exactly, then I save them as a png file and print from the Mac program, Preview. I believe the Windows alternative is Quick Look or Seer, but I’m only guessing (after a quick Google search). Thanks for watching!

[@jilljackson5419]

lol, when you mention in your description the printer you actually name the toaster oven. I would like to know your design program and what program you use for printing.

[@industrialfringe953]

I know! I laughed when I saw that! I use Photoshop Elements to design and resize everything, and I print from Preview. It’s a Mac pdf viewing program. (I tried to print using the toaster, but it wouldn’t work!) Thanks for watching!

[@ashleighcormier1424]

I'm having an issue with my reds turning pink. Any suggestions? HIPPO ink, A sub 125 paper, Epson 4700 :-) I baked 350 for 5 minutes.

[@industrialfringe953]

Do you have a thermometer in your oven? Also, some shades of red can be tricky to sub. I bake 365 for 4-1/2 minutes. Thanks for watching!

[@ashcoley8099]

Did you print the design on a regular printer and regular printing paper??

[@industrialfringe953]

Hi, I use an Epson inkjet printer that’s been converted to a sublimation printer by switching out inks (but I hope to buy an actual sublimation printer soon!) and I use TexPrint sublimation paper. There are a bunch of sub papers out there, and some people even use regular (bright white) paper. Thanks for watching!

[@ashcoley8099]

@@industrialfringe953 Thank you so much for the helpful information!!

[@diannacarmichael7889]

Is the oven on bake or convection

[@industrialfringe953]

I apologize for not clarifying. I use the convection setting. Thanks for watching!

[@rampena9426]

How long do you pre heat your oven for?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Ram! I use an oven thermometer to get the temp to around 365°, and it takes about 8 minutes for the oven to get to that temp.

[@tamijohnson9870]

what program are you using to print out your design?

[@industrialfringe953]

I create and/or size all of my images in Photoshop Elements and save as a png file, then print from Preview, a Mac app that previews, does basic edits and reads/edits pdf files. (I really only use it to mirror images and print them.) Thanks for watching!

[@rraley55]

Ive printed image placed on cup in oven for 4 minutes and take it out and immediately take the paper off and the image isnt on cup. What am i doing wrong? Thank you

[@industrialfringe953]

It could be a couple of things. Are you using sublimation ink? Are you using sublimation paper? And lastly, is your cup a sublimation cup? Where did you get your cup?

[@lelahkarpen2172]

You say start to finish but no one actually starts from getting the image, adjusting or perfecting the image to fit your project AND THEN print it out and the rest of it. I'm frustrated with the beginning part and I've yet to find a video to help with that...UGH!

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Lelah, I hear ya! I’m always trying to figure out what most people want, and you’re not the first one that has asked about sizing an image. I do have other videos on creating images, creating templates, sizing the images for print, different taping techniques, etc. I suggest you take a look at some of my other videos to see if you get your answers. If not, let me know and I’ll be happy to work on a video that gets you what you need! Thanks for watching!

[@jabronius]

Do you have the link for the shrink wrap and tumblers on alibaba?

[@industrialfringe953]

You can go to alibaba.com and search Sichuan Locusts Network Technology Co., Ltd. start a chat and let them know you’d like information on tumblers in the USA warehouse. My rep is Chloe Peng. Her email is [e-mail].

[@industrialfringe953]

I’m sorry, I was responding about the USA unboxing video! Go to the same company. They ship sea or you can get limited products quickly from their USA warehouse for only a little more. (When I think ahead, I buy from overseas. When I miscalculate and need more before my overseas shipment arrives, I order through their USA warehouse! Hope that helps.

[@jabronius]

@@industrialfringe953 Thanks so much! I’m tired of paying double the price for these items and I prefer to buy products that other people have tested. So many choices!

[@industrialfringe953]

YES! I highly recommend these folks! I want to try another company to compare, but every time I comes to ordering, I go back to these people! I hope it helps!

[@sumerroberts3132]

What size do you make it? I can’t seem to make them line up.😭

[@industrialfringe953]

Sumer, my image is just shy of 9-1/4” by just under 8-1/8 inches. I created a template in Photoshop that I can put the final image behind and “cut out” so I don’t have to measure every time. Check out my video, “Make A Sublimation Tumbler Design With Photoshop Elements, Part One” for a little detail in how to make it. (I also share the template png file in the description of that video.) Hope that helps!

[@antoniogonzalez3317]

What software did you used?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hi, Antonio, I use Photoshop Elements to create designs, I save them as png files, and I print from Preview, the Mac viewing and pdf software. Thanks for watching!

[@Lisa_Zapata]

Thank you… new subbie here 😊

[@industrialfringe953]

Welcome! Let me know if you have any questions! (Join the Facebook group and ask any questions there!)

[@michellewilson8243]

What websites do you use to get the images

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Michelle, I created the designs in this video, and create a lot of different designs myself. That’s probably what I enjoy most about sublimation. I also occasionally buy some designs on Etsy. Thanks so much for watching!

[@diamonddancerspr]

You use Fahrenheit or Celsius?

[@industrialfringe953]

Sonia, I use Fahrenheit. And I swear by an internal thermometer! amzn.to/3BkTuv7

[@epoxymommy8643]

Who did you design your website with? It’s nice :)

[@industrialfringe953]

Thank you! We use Weebly. My wife designs it and I do the tech side. The bulk of the site is my wife’s business. I added a couple of pages for my things. I have a site (INDUSTRIALfringe.com), I just have to put it together, with my wife’s help, of course! Right now I have that web address pointed to the page on my wife’s site. I really like most of Weebly, but the shipping options are not set up as well as they should be, so you have to manipulate things to get shipping charges correct.

[@epoxymommy8643]

@@industrialfringe953 thank you. I’ll have to check it out. A lot of them are so expensive and don’t drive traffic unless you Know what you are doing, and I don’t. Lol. I love your alls site is so professional. She did a phenomenal job!

[@industrialfringe953]

Thanks! I’ll let her know! The cool thing about Weebly is, you can start with a free plan, and they have great templates. But I think most of them do nowadays. Thanks again!

[@SweetDee101]

Is it true you need a special printer to sublimate?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey! Well, yes, sort of. You either need a special sublimation printer (Sawgrass or Epson sublimation printers) or you need to “convert” a regular printer. Converting is simply completely changing the ink from regular ink to sublimation ink. But here’s the thing. Not all printers will “convert.” It needs to be a printer that uses a piezo print head, as they don’t use heat (and a thermal print head does). That said, printers used to convert are almost exclusively Epson, as most of them use the piezo head. Check out Cosmos Ink on KZbin. He has some great videos on converting and they have great ink. (It’s what I use.)

[@MsQuita91]

I’m having problems with my sublimation paper sticking to my tumbler. What am I doin wrong?

[@industrialfringe953]

Shequita, it could be one of a couple of things. You can try reducing you time and/or temp. You can also try switching to a different paper. What time/temp are you currently using, and what paper are you using? Is you paper browning any?

[@arcoirisdeamor67ng24]

What kind of photo paper is being used?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Norma! I now use TexPrint XPHR sublimation paper from Heat Press Nation. (I believe you can get the paper elsewhere, I happen to get mine from them.) To save some money, I buy the 11” x 17” sheets and cut them in half to make 8-1/2” x 11” sheets! Many people use A-Sub sublimation paper as well. I used it until recently when I switched to TexPrint. (You can get A-Sub from Amazon. I used to use 120 G.) some people use a high quality copy paper. I haven’t tried that yet, as I’m really happy with the results I’m getting now. Maybe down the road I’ll make a video about different types of paper to sub with!

[@nd1770]

What size is your paper?

[@industrialfringe953]

The paper I buy is 11” x 17”, but I cut it in half and use 8-1/2” x 11”. Thanks for watching!

[@tiffanybrown6629]

Size of paper? Image size that you printed?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hey, Tiffany! I used 8.5” x 11” sub paper (either ASub 120 or TexPrint), and the image size was approximately 9-1/4” x 8-1/8”. Since all tumblers can vary in size just a little, I would suggest measuring your tumbler. I have 3 different sizes from the 3 places I’ve purchased tumblers! If you have a software editing program, I cover making a template in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ-upK2vbL5rbK8

[@haleymurray2243]

Can you make a video on how you make your own images?

[@industrialfringe953]

Absolutely! I’m actually going to make a few, each covering different topics. (How to create a template, how to create an edge that will be more forgiving of seams, how to photograph an image and make it into a tumbler, how to take a piece of art and make it into a tumbler, how to create an image from scratch, etc.) If there’s anything specific you’re looking for, let me know and I’ll move it up in the queue!

[@robertm2551]

Can you give information on your printer?

[@industrialfringe953]

Hi, Robert, I currently have the Epson Workforce 7710, “converted” into a sub printer. When I get a new sub printer, I’ll be looking at the Epson F170 or F570. The F570 may be out of my price range, in which case I’ll go with the F170. They’re both made for sublimation, so the probability of problems is much lower! Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!

[@lorettacorrell7640]

Hamilton beach oven not printer

[@industrialfringe953]

Yes, you are correct, I’m using is the Hamilton Beach XL Rotisserie Oven. Thanks!

[@ItsNini08]

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