How to survive Army OCS

[@kidthndr2]

Appreciate the shout out !

[@j-31fitness82]

kidthndr2 thanks for the videos! Gave me a good head start for my class. Finshed Jan 30 and going to vlog armor bolc... help out our future brothers.

[@montemontoya5790]

Thank you so much for this!!! I'm getting ready to leave for OCS in a couple weeks and the links for the history preparation are life savers! Also you have given me valuable insight in what I can expect and my anxiety level has gone down a little! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

[@Napoleon1323]

I wish you the best. You'll be a great officer.

[@multitieredinvestor183]

class 02-64. 51st Company graduated 2 December 1964. Retired 31Oct 1980.

[@RelevantDad]

I'm heading to state accelerated OCS in June. I'm also an E-6 prior enlisted, so I appreciate the tips!

[@j-31fitness82]

Jesse Prescott congrats brother! You know how it goes, just keep your head down and push through. You will deal with a lot of BS but just play the game and you will be through it before you know it.

[@ebonywashington6376]

Thank you for your video I actually report in 6 days I’m very nervous but you did clear up most of my questions especially in regards to being prior enlisted.

[@j-31fitness82]

Ebony Washington just a heads up... the order of things has changed a bit but it’s for your benefit. History is towards the end which will give you time to prepare, good luck . Be sure to comment and let me know how your doing

[@ebonywashington6376]

J-31 Fitness thank you I will keep you posted.

[@laguerrera2902]

Two years late on this video- just wanting to know what my father went through before the Vietnam war at OCS :) he’s told me a few stories and I was interested. Btw, he survived Vietnam and is a retired Lt. Col. now ☺️ thank you for uploading this for people getting ready to go into OCS 🙏

[@multitieredinvestor5246]

Class 64-04. Graduated 2 December 1964. Fort Benning, GA

[@bobbyroberts8769]

Graduated 27 Oct 1964, Fort Benning GA, 55th CO

[@multitieredinvestor5246]

Bobby Roberts Thats my wedding anniversary. You were the class immediatly ahead of us. 55th was the first building closest to the parking lot - farthest from Eubanks Field.

[@jamesludan557]

how i got this video i don,t know. went to OCS at benning and got commissioned by my dad. boy is OCS different from when i went. it was 6 mo and a lot more involved academically and physically. i remember my dad telling me "i hope you can make it" a great adventure. o still am in regular contact with many candidates, my company,battalliion commanders and even my tac officer who visist me every year at my home for th annual deer hunt. it was and is truly a great experience

[@robertprice9052]

Graduated Benning School for Boys December 20, 1984, 51st Company. One of the best ass kicking I have ever had. When I was there it was 50th and 51st Company. I had the pleasure of having a TAC who was a friend from basic training years earlier. Chuck took particular pleasure in kicking my ass. Years later I served as a TAC. What goes around comes around.

[@markjaws1]

I was the class before you in 51st Company, graduating in August 1984. Was Charity Van Delft a Tac Officer there?

[@jibrinebang]

Great video, going there next month

[@richfrazier8855]

Went through Benning in 1969 went it was still strictly infantry OCS. A lot tougher than later in the 70s when it became a school for all army branches.

[@GenuineLeather33]

Class 1-90. Awesome experience. Best career move I could make. Had just under 10 years active duty when I started.

[@tvushington6994]

God bless you man, lot of valuable information here 💯

[@multitieredinvestor5246]

Our OCS class was 22 weeks long. No history, but a lot of land navigation. Being a grunt they like you to know where you are.

[@j-31fitness82]

Multi tiered Investor yeah they should have focused more on the land nav. With how they like to force you to drink from a firehose the army had gotten really good about cramming way to much training into a short period of time and honestly they did not prepare us for a good bit of things that are important to know.

[@multitieredinvestor5246]

Although I went to and graduated from Benning School for boys, I was commissioned Signal. Map Reading was a self learned course that we had to learn at my 10 month Signal OfficerAdvanced Course. We were tested on it during our first two weeks and if anyone failed they took it until the passed. My neighbor had been thrown out of the ANC for nearly strangling a female nurse and as it was during Vietnam, he became a Signal officer. I spent a couple weeks trying to teach him map reading. He did not even know what a compass was.

[@juliab2560]

Hello sir, I was wondering if you know if they still use those same history books? I wont be at OCS until October 2020

[@Diabetic_Chicken69]

How'd you do?

[@pogeysnacks8234]

@@Diabetic_Chicken69 I graduated OCS this year and they have revised text books that added 2 war fighting functions but I'm sure everything else is exactly the same

[@richfrazier8855]

Try it in 1969 when I went thru Benning School for Boys. You wouldn't be bitching. OCS was 26 weeks then.

[@Da1RiSiN1sMoKe]

Nice video, man; very informative. They let us lighthouse in land nav here. It still was stressful, but lighthousing made it easier. I'm not looking forward to the 12 mile ruck haha. STX is going to be stressful and busy; they're pushing 183 people for us. D:

[@j-31fitness82]

Jakub Rosman hey man! Glad to see your doing well, and don’t worry about that ruck you will do fine. It went by much faster then I expected

[@kidthndr2]

Definitely don't worry about the Ruck!

[@multitieredinvestor183]

My wife and daughter came to Fort Benning while I was attending OCS. I was concentrating on them and my TAC Officer told me they were interfering with my concentration. I had them go home as she was 7 months pregnant and was in a trailer in Seale,Alabama without aircondiioning in August/ September.

[@JumpRopeVeteran]

I graduated a little over 10 years ago. I was in Alpha Company. It was a decent time and it went by pretty quickly. I'm sure a lot had changed since then!

[@rj8288]

Are commissioned officers with prior enlisted experience still called Mustangs?

[@j-31fitness82]

Anyone that has some time in still call us that.

[@RangerCaptain11A]

B Co, 11-89. we started with 220 Men, 35 graduated. integrity, failure to lead, PT, academics killed off the candidates. daytime land nav = 25 points, night = 12 points, you talk, you fail. half the time in the field, half in garrison. when in the billets, we went to Bldg. 4 for classes all day, after evening meal, we sat at our desks for two hours to study. maintain 70% academics. in the field, lots of weapons, two weeks of ranger school activities on basic squad/platoon patrolling, long ruck marches. never enough cattle cars so platoons took turns walking and riding. I looked at so many feet every evening. the BN CO loved to run, so Saturdays in garrison meant 13 mile runs. it was good training. I went across the street to IOBC. i was the only candidate who got to choose my branch - almost everyone else was branched chemical.

[@Science_WithSimon]

Do you have any recommendations for preparing for the Army History portion before going to OCS? I have a few months split option before I attend OCS and if its as rigorous as what I'm hearing it is, I'd love to get a jump on the curriculum if I could. Do you sell your notes or are there particular textbooks you use that I could purchase?

[@j-31fitness82]

Simon Gonzalez I actually put the links to the texts books in a previous comment so you can download those for free. If you want to read through you can to get a heads up. Once you get there, at the first of the cycle they will give you the study guide. Start working on it as soon as you get it. The study guide is exactly what is on the test. Just make sure to fill everything out and also put together study groups and pool everyone’s notes together. That was the biggest help to me for passing the test.

[@anthonysmith-n8d]

I would like to attend Officer Candidate School (OCS), Warrant Officer Candidate School (WOCS), Direct Commission (DC), or Officer Training School (OTS). I have a Bachelor of Science degree and a Master of Science degree. I am a prior service member and I'm transferring to a new branch of service. I am 41 years old. My recruiter is saying that I'm too old to become an officer. What advice could you provide to help me pursue the officer route?

[@jayjaysportsvids9201]

Thanks for the informative content. Two questions for you: 1) How do PT scores from BCT affect you at OCS? 2) How does land nav at OCS differ from that of BCT? Thank you so much in advance.

[@j-31fitness82]

JayJay SportsVids your actual score prom basic does not matter because you take a class-up pt test when you get there. No you want to score as high as possible if not a 300 or higher. Land nav in ocs is harder then bct but if you are confident in you land nav abilities you will be just fine.

[@jayjaysportsvids9201]

Thank you. Could you elaborate on the ocs one being more difficult? For instance, is the physical aspect of OCS land what is making it more difficult? Do you have to find more points in shorter period of time? Is the map much more complex? Thank you in advnace again for taking the time to answer as detailed as you can.

[@j-31fitness82]

JayJay SportsVids well with my class it was the rules they had in place. You did the course on your own and not as a buddy team, could not use white light at all or you would be recycled, you had to lay in the prone during the dark with red light only to look at your map and when you got close to where you thought your point may be you could not lighthouse to hopefully see you point. Also it is not a self correcting course. Most points have coordinates written on them but you can trust all of them. So if you get to a point and your not sure if it’s yours it could mess up the rest of the course for you. Just use the basics they teach you and you will be just fine

[@jdpst20]

Hey there and congrats. I know this is an older video but I'm in the same boat right now. I'm E5P about to head to SLC and already have a collage degree BA. I have 6 years TIS and MOS of 11B. I already am Airborne and have my Ranger Tab along with a few other schools ect. What are the chances if you were to guess of staying Infantry and being 11A since I'm already 11B does that get looked at as sort of a transition since I've had some experience and time with that MOS? How did it work for you? I'm Active duty of course.

[@illycrpz]

Wanted to ask. Since your prior service. did you still need to go to the OCS BOARD, or an n any interviews at all. Also how often did you take a APFT during OCS.

[@j-31fitness82]

Ileana Corpuz you will still have to go through a board and as for the APFT you should have to take one 30 days out from arriving at OCS. You then take a APFT day one to decided if you class up (if you are guard/reserve or in service you should automatically have a spot for the class as long as you pass. Once in class the only one you should take will be the one to graduate. Hope that helps.

[@brig6348]

What were the weekends like during OCS training? Were you able to leave base for family visitations? Asking for a friend... LOL

[@j-31fitness82]

Brig well it really depends on which company you end up in. Alpha we did not have a lot of feee weekends and when we did have a pass it was just a day pass for any where from 4 hours to 8 hours. They only time we were allowed to stay off post with our family was the weekend of graduation. I wouldn’t make a lot of plans for family to come down and visit just for the fact they can take a pass away at any time and it happened a few times.

[@brig6348]

Awesome! Thanks bro!

[@occidentalorthodox92]

When you were saying you had to "go back" did you have weekends off or something?

[@j-31fitness82]

Tsar Doberman I went during the winter and we had a break for Christmas, I was 2/3 of the way through when I filmed this. Weekends in alpha were nonexistent but other companies had them just depends on which class you end up in.

[@richfrazier8756]

Went thru Army OCS in 1969. 26 weeks long then. It wasn't a game for us!

[@OGHG771]

How do you recommend preparing for army history?

[@j-31fitness82]

HonorGuard honestly the best thing you can do is read through the textbooks that I have the links to in a prior comment. Also when you get to OCS they get the study guide out to you very early in the cycle so start working it it right away. That way you are not trying to keep up with the fast pace of the class.... and I mean a very fast pace. You will cover two full textbooks of just military history in two weeks. Start early and study every night till you take the test and you will pass with flying colors. Also have group study sessions that was also a big help.

[@ellucio4035]

Do you have to study the entire books or do they give you areas of concentration? That volume II is like more than 500 pages..lol

[@j-31fitness82]

el lucio they give you a study guide to fill out prior to the class starting. All of the answers for the test are on the guide. What makes it difficult is how it is structured and the pace of the class. As long as you know the info they have you do on the study guide you will pass just fine

[@RealEstateWithRay]

@@j-31fitness82 So do you study all the material or just remember the study guide?

[@jaimehernandez8261]

Is the history exam multiple choice or a short answer? What are most of the exams like?

[@j-31fitness82]

Jaime Hernandez the history test does have multiple choice on it but they purposely try to trick you on them to see if you know little details. The test also has identification questions where they will ask a question and you have to identify every war in a list that matches with the question.... if you don’t get every single one you miss the whole question. Then the last thing is you will have a paragraph you read and you have to tell weather each sentence is either true or false. Those can also be tricky with the wording they use so be sure to pay close attention. As for the other tests they were straight forward multiple choice. Hope this helps. I’m also going to make an update video for you all and break down everything in more detail.

[@latoyahughes2252]

Hi, thanks for uploading the video, it’s very helpful. Can you tell me how much weight you had to carry for the rucks?

[@j-31fitness82]

LATOYA LEWIS thank you for watching. As for the rucks the SOP say 35lbs. Once water was added it ranged from 42 to 48 lbs depending on the student leadership for that week. Now I was the student first sergeant during the 12 mike ruck so the CO and I weighed out the ruck to be about 38-40 with water. When training to head here I would use 50lbs and you should be set when you get here.

[@escommentss]

Pretty good making E-6 in 6 years!

[@energeez]

why is land nav such a huge problem within the army. i don't get it

[@j-31fitness82]

energeez overall land nav is really not hat bad, but the army tends to make it more difficult then it needs to be. Plus people are not confident and do not trust in the actual skills. If your comfortable then you will normally do great.

[@energeez]

J-31 Fitness one of the continuous things I’ve noticed in my life is people learn differently

[@petercost3513]

Thank you for the video! I’ll be attending OCS in October 2018 through the college option. What was the branching breakdown in your class? Were there a lot of slots for combat branches?

[@j-31fitness82]

Peter Cost thank you for watching. As for the branching breakdown it was very heavy in combat as far as infantry and armor. I’m my cycle there where a lot of people that wanted those combat jobs so make sure you try to stay in the top third of the class to make sure you get what you want. I picked armor and they are trained heavily in op orders once you get to bolc so be sure to research and see what interest you in the combat branches. Hope this helps.

[@petercost3513]

J-31 Fitness Helped out a lot, thanks again!

[@robertprice9052]

The OSUT "College Op" guys always did well.

[@chrislecce3993]

When you see this please share a few thoughts on ur own experience coming from college through basic and then OCS. I just graduated and am building my packet to see the board next month

[@johndettenmaier8824]

I saw that you said that they gave you study guides. I was wondering if you still had them?

[@j-31fitness82]

John Dettenmaier I looked through my computer and share drive and couldn’t find my original. Honestly. You will have a couple of weeks once you get there to work on it before you start history class. The biggest jump it gives you is it lets you know what questions could be on your test and they change those each class.

[@johndettenmaier8824]

Ok thank you for looking.

[@johndettenmaier8824]

Are the questions on the test essay form?

[@j-31fitness82]

John Dettenmaier so that a yes and no answer... there are essay questions but all you have to do is read each sentence of the essay and choose weather it is a true or false statement. Not really your normal essay format but they can be very tricky with how they word them.

[@johndettenmaier8824]

What happens if you don't pass the history?

[@tyger441]

Hey, thanks for the video. College option here. Do you have a daily PT regimen that you'd recommend before shipping? I leave for basic in April and I'd like to prepare for that and OCS at the same time. Thanks!

[@j-31fitness82]

To prepare for OCS the things you need to focus on are running and ruck marching. You will run a lot here and you have 4 ruck marches to complete before you can graduate. So for a workout focus on push-ups, sit-ups, running up to at least 5 miles but no less then 2 Miles, and try to get to where you can ruck 12 miles with 35lbs or more on your back comfortably. You can do those things you will have no problems here.

[@OGHG771]

J-31 Fitness what’s the Ruck March time?

[@j-31fitness82]

It’s slower then a 15 minute mile it’s actually around 17:30 per mile so not bad at all

[@peteyBron23]

Obviously OCS is always adapting like you said. But would you say that if you were in the top third of your class, you’re likely to receive the branch you want? Thanks.

[@j-31fitness82]

Peter Eaglebass if you are in the top 30% you have a very good shot at getting the branch you want, really aim for the top 20% though to guarantee you get you branch.

[@jeffdelong8116]

It’s not hard to make it through OCS. I did and commissioned in 2009.

[@briannoe592]

Thank you for posting. I'm preparing for my preselection board. Are you on break? Also will I have access to coffee.

[@j-31fitness82]

Brian Noe I’m graduated now and finished up BOLC a few months ago. As far as coffee, I know when I went through we had to write a memorandum for record stating why we needed coffee during OCS...Lol! We had it later in the cycle but not at the first of it.

[@briannoe592]

@@j-31fitness82 That's pretty funny, did anyone complete the memorandum? Congratulations on completing BOLC.

[@briannoe592]

@@j-31fitness82 Fitness recommendations? Current 2 min PU 75, SU 75, 2 mile run 12:50. I'm rucking about once a week with 20lbs up to 3 miles.

[@wolfiewolf1794]

anyway i can prepare for landnav prior to school?

[@j-31fitness82]

Eric M yes you can definitely prepare for it. First you can google the program that the army uses to teach you the basics of you have never done that before, it is very important to have the basics down. Then if you have a park or something around you look you a topographical map of the area and actually do practice runs in light and dark conditions. Also you can download an app called “Land Nav Assistant” , just to check yourself and make sure you are hitting the correct points just don’t become dependent on the app. To ease any worries they will give you multiple practice runs on the course before you test so don’t stress to much. Trust yourself and trust your compass.

[@wolfiewolf1794]

Tyvm! much appreciated J-31 Fitness. gonna do some runs pretty soon.

[@zachlawson8758]

I am in the application process now. Do you know the title of the history books or a good way to get prepared for it?

[@j-31fitness82]

Zach Lawson here are the links to the actual pdf documents that have the entire books in them. history.army.mil/html/books/030/30-21/CMH_Pub_30-21.pdf , and history.army.mil/html/books/030/30-22/CMH_Pub_30-22.pdf As for preparing for it you can read up on military history and just focus on battles. Try to remember details as far as tactics used, terrain that effected the battles and things of that nature. I will look through my files on my computer and see if I can find you a copy of the actual study guide given to my class.

[@temitopealagbala5663]

I am going reporting in 10 days, and the actual guide you used for this would really help a lot if you can find it please. I heard that one cannot really prep for the history test. did you find that to be true, or are there things that one can do to prepare

[@j-31fitness82]

Temitope Alagbala you can’t really prepare a head of time for the test due to how they instructors teach it and how it is written. I could not find a copy of the one we had for our class. Even if I could find it it wouldn’t be much help, they changed all the questions every test or they will ask for a different aspect of whatever battle the question is about. Best thing to do is take lots of boys and complete the study guide they give you ahead of time. Also as a platoon or company everybody should work together to compare notes and study guide answers and I would say you will do just fine on the test.

[@DanielRodriguez-vm2ve]

hey you know my boy josh salazar and donahue? Did you know Barthe?

[@DanielRodriguez-vm2ve]

or carter? The 173rd guy

[@j-31fitness82]

Daniel Rodriguez yeah knew all of them. I actually just graduated from ABLOC with Donahue and Barthe.

[@j-31fitness82]

I remember carter too lol, should ask him about land nav.

[@joshuaoya3]

Hey man! I really appreciate this video and all the information you provided. I've got about another year before I graduate with my bachelors then head off to OCS. Since I've got time, is there anything you recommend I do to prepare myself and have a strong packet for the board? Thank you very much!

[@j-31fitness82]

Joshua Geiger thank you for the comment and good luck with the board. As for having a good packet for the board make yourself look as professional/ leadership competent as possible. They don’t expect out I know everything going in there, that’s why they train us. Just go in confident and when they ask you questions answer them with confidence even if your not sure. Biggest thing to remember is they can teach you doctrine and battle drills but confidence is all up to you.

[@joshuaoya3]

Thank you very much for taking time to respond. I also subscribed to your channel because its a trove of very helpful information. I also heard that letters of recommendation will be necessary for the board but I do not currently know anyone in the army. Do you have any recommendations for what I should do for this? Thank you!

[@j-31fitness82]

Joshua Geiger if there are any high level management or political figures you may know that can write one for you helps. If you don’t then maybe a church official or someone in a leadership type position that can write you one works.

[@joshuaoya3]

This has all been incredibly helpful. I was starting to lose hope I'd get in. Thank you so much for all the advice!

[@cotymcwain8880]

Did you have a layout? I know some classes do and some don't

[@j-31fitness82]

Coty Mcwain my class did not do a layout, but I would make sure to have everything on the packing list. Just be sure to keep everything in the plastic and he receipt that you don’t use so you can return it

[@cotymcwain8880]

J-31 Fitness ok thanks going in June. My buddy said they did one but I had another friend who said they didn't so I had to ask

[@j-31fitness82]

Coty Mcwain no problem brother

[@janayelondon7064]

Question. Im prior service as well and I’m getting ready to go to OCS. So it looks like you’re at home and you said something about when you go back (to training) to do your 12 mile ruck. So do we get breaks throughout training?

[@janayelondon7064]

Never mind just made it to the end of the video. It was Xmas time. I get it lol

[@TetherAlert]

@@janayelondon7064 how was OCS ?

[@fredietrevino4476]

When your in OCS do you get to keep your cell phone, also do have to have a battle buddy as well?

[@j-31fitness82]

Depends on the commander and your instructors. My platoon was able too but the others were not. It’s best to keep it put up and out of sight when possible

[@fredietrevino4476]

J-31 Fitness ok thank you for the information. But do we also have to have a battle buddy as well?

[@j-31fitness82]

Fredie Treviño youhave more freedoms then basic but they still keep a close eye on you. And as good practice it’s good to have someone with you when seen by any of the cadre

[@fredietrevino4476]

Ok thank you for the information sir.

[@slavojzizzek7562]

Alphatrazz graduate of early 2018. You nailed it.

[@dash4086]

PT is the worst for me. Are the PT requirements more tough than the BCT graduation requirements?

[@j-31fitness82]

Dhairya Pandya I will say that they are harder on you about PT then basic and they really focus on running. There is a 5 mile graduation run that you must pass and it’s at roughly a 9 minute pace. Also you will have to complete 4 ruck marches. Those are at a 17:30 pace which is not to bad but make sure to train with a 50lbs pack to be ahead of the game when you do the real thing.

[@TetherAlert]

@@j-31fitness82 damn 5 miles is it timed ? I may just stay E4 and try to get this E5. Lol

[@stephenleskow7959]

Were you PS before going into OCS? If so, what rank and what was your MOS? I already have a BA degree and I’m looking into enlisting. I want to get OCS in my contract, but due to having to get a moral waiver, my recruiter is trying to tell me that’s not an option. He states I’ll have to enlist and then drop a packet once I’m in for OCS. Do you know how long I’d have to wait to apply to OCS if I went that route? My recruiter couldn’t give me a definitive answer. Thanks in advance man! Hope you’re doing well!

[@ChrisHawkinsE]

Hey brother. I am a prior service 11B and I am considering going back in for OCS. But I want to go JAG. Is it possible I go into OCS and not get JAG? Or is there a contract specifically for officers going to JAG.

[@j-31fitness82]

Majorly Triggered Studio the JAG officers have their own version of OCS they go through. Do you already have you Law Degree? I believe in order to go that route you have to already have passed the BAR exam.

[@ChrisHawkinsE]

@@j-31fitness82 just the BA in history. Do you know if there is a program where you agree to attend OCS on completion of law school? Cause my GI bill wont get me all the way through law school. I am sure there is some sort of program lol.

[@j-31fitness82]

Majorly Triggered Studio I’ll be honest I’m not 100% sure on that one. Best thing to do is seek out a recruiter and ask some very pointed questions towards jag. I would also just search the web for all the info you can find prior to going to a recruiter. I’ll ask some friends of mine in the recruiting field and see if they may have some info on it.

[@ChrisHawkinsE]

@@j-31fitness82 thanks brother. I have been in contact with recruiters and they all seem to be giving me different info. Surprise surprise lol. I am not joining again until I can make everything much more clear. If you hear anything definitely let me know. Thanks man

[@Sulls2Cold]

Can you sign up for OCS as a Reserve candidate?

[@thesweettoothbooth8961]

Yes. I am going that route in Jan. 💃🏻

[@pogeysnacks8234]

Yup! As a reservist you'll go through the same application process as active folks. From my understanding, you pretty much automatically get in as a reserve officer as long as you don't have anything that doesn't DQ you.

[@kroganoperator]

Is there a away to prepare for the land nav before ocs?

[@j-31fitness82]

M Alc if you have prior experience if shouldn’t be to big a deal for you. You will get a few practice runs prior to the test. If you not sure of your self just focus on the basics. Pace count, shooting the correct azimuthal, plotting your points correctly, and trusting yourself are the biggest things to help you. Also if you have some public lands close you you, get a topographical map of the area and try going there with you phone as a back up and find landmarks through out the area or just set points and find those. Also you will be able to use the roads so follow the roads till you are close to your point and shoot and azimuth from those attack points to make it easier.

[@sonneillionx7705]

I dint understand shit xD i want to join de airforce as an officer and everyone talks about land nav

[@temitopealagbala5663]

I really appreciate yout video. I already asked you a question. I have a few more please. Can't find someone to answer them irl. I am getting to OCS at 1600 that's 4 hours later than normal. What uniform do I resume in? I'm prior enlisted reserve. Do we have our own bathrooms in the rooms or do we have to share with everyonr else?

[@j-31fitness82]

Report in your ocp/acu with the ocs Rank and make sure you have the gold ocs pin rank on it, that’s for the chest and the PC. You will room with one or two other people and you will share a bathroom with your roommates only. As for when you are report don’t stress that we had people report in at almost midnight

[@temitopealagbala5663]

J-31 Fitness the packing list also says to come with our asu. My Asu is the junior enlisted dress blues which is very different from the officer asu. Should I still bring it? Plus are we going to get issued all the TA 50s? I don't want to pack any unnecessary stuff. Should I bring everything on the packing list? Or are we going to be fitted for ASUs there. Thanks sooo very much. You're saving me a lot of smoking.

[@j-31fitness82]

Temitope Alagbala take your ASUs because of the still fit well you can have them converted to officer dress blues cheaper then buying new. They do issue you all of the ta50 so no need to pack any of that unless there is something out just really want to take. Take everything on the packing list but do not open or use something unless absolutely necessary. Anything you don’t you can return after the cycle. As for the getting smoked it’s not like basic so you don’t have to worry to much about that happening, maybe a handful of times the entire cycle.

[@phase2U]

Hey Soldier, thanks for posting this. I've always wondered about the differences between Army OCS and Marine OCS (which I went through). Army OCS actually sounds much more like our TBS (The Basic School), which is 6 months long. Is there a high attrition rate at Army OCS? Can you recycle at Army OCS? Marine OCS is pretty physically and psychologically brutal. Would you say the same thing about Army?

[@RangerCaptain11A]

Army OCS allows recycling for certain issues. my buddy Ian got shin splints and dropped back two weeks. but he was my first salute and got my silver dollar. integrity, academics, PT - no recycle, return to your unit. every day we were under attack by all our training officers, and it never let up for the entire four months. we low crawled to meals, never had hot water, and seven minutes from the time you get your tray shoved at you to eat and get back outside in formation, studying your required knowledge. even when we got our scarfs, any little thing caused us to lose them, then everyone moved to a different room. unrelenting.

[@Odysseus_Advice]

Hey man, your channel has really helped me get through basic training. I am about to go to OCS and am wondering how I should prepare for land nav, history, and the field excercises. Are there any books or AR I can read? Also, did you get your phone and laptop in OCS and how do your privileges compare to BCT? Thank you for everything!

[@FestungLeben]

Awesome video man. Any sources for landnav for civilians?

[@RangerCaptain11A]

go take a map and compass class from REI. get a 7.5 minute topo map of your home area and look at terrain features and find them on the map and vise-versa. learn metric measurement. learn to estimar=te distances in meters fro 50 to 1,200 meters. learn your pace count - how many steps per 100 meters both day and night, in forest and open terrain.

[@Icewater789]

Did you do land nav by yourself ? Or was it a group of soldiers working together?

[@j-31fitness82]

When I went through we did land nav individually. It’s really not that bad if you skirt the roads. There are tons of trails from the previous classes to help you out too. Just stick to the basics and it’s a breeze

[@brandon3096]

How well do you think someone with a history degree do?

[@j-31fitness82]

Doni Moe_ we had a couple of history majors in my class and they all said the test wasn’t to hard for them, it was more how it was formatted that made it more difficult. Also they will use wording that makes it difficult, example- they may use the words “rolling hills” instead of “mountainous terrain” and that alone could cost you 5 points on the test. The details are what hurt most people

[@chemistryfu]

What branch did you end up getting? Thinking about NG OCS soon... Best of luck to ya.

[@joeypuentes1529]

You got any resources for the history?

[@j-31fitness82]

Joey Puentes I put a link in the video description of the actual books we used in the class. You can read ahead before getting to ocs to have a better understanding of what the test will be over.

[@robertpapa6494]

Did your class do a swim qual? if so, do you have any advice?

[@j-31fitness82]

Robert Papa there is no swim qualification so you don’t have to worry about that. I did here today that they have added graded release runs to the class that count towards the OML.

[@ashlinhensley2058]

J-31 Fitness. I report in May. I was told we don't need 6 ACU's it is just 4, is this accurate. Also will I have time to get the follow me patch and 11th Infantry crest, OCS rank, before I have to report? They don't have it at the clothing sales by me. What do I wear to report in? I am prior enlisted, but I have no orders just an ATTRs reservation. Help. LOL

[@j-31fitness82]

Ashlin Hensley four uniforms will be fine but I would take OCPs instead of ACU if your able too. As soon as you get on base just go to clothing and sales or ranger joes or commandos outside post to get all the tank your going to need. You should report in OCPs and for your orders your unit should give you a copy before you leave. Just be sure to follow up with them before you head to benning. Also make sure to have all your paperwork for inprocessing.

[@j-31fitness82]

Ashlin Hensley go ahead and report to OCS after you get what you need and they will put you up in a room there for the night.

[@markjaws1]

Class 4-84, 51st Company.

[@sonneillionx7705]

Im from Puerto Rico i speak spanish i can talk to you a basic english but some more complicated words i will not inderstand them im afraid to join and not be at 100% to understand it all :c

[@sonneillionx7705]

I want to join as an officer

[@RangerCaptain11A]

the Army used to give an English proficiency test, and non-pass meant a few weeks of daily English and reading classes. but you have to go in front of a selection board and write an essay before you are selected. don't get the cart in front of the horse.

[@johndettenmaier8824]

Is OCS like Boot Camp?

[@j-31fitness82]

John Dettenmaier thats a difficult question... for those going straight from basic to OCS its a step up in freedoms and what you are allowed to do. If you are prior service it feels like basic at times but over all its not near as bad. You get more annoyed with the little things that cadre pick at, so do worry to much on difficulty of the course. Just focus on what they are teaching and your end goal... to be commissioned!

[@kennygonzalez2373]

Hey brother awesome video very informative one quick question my battalion board is February 6 I’m hoping to get into OCS and get an aviation slot I have already taken my flight physical and my sift do you know more or less the chances of getting an aviation slot at OCS If they even allot aviation slots for OCS? Has anybody from your current class slotted Aviation

[@j-31fitness82]

Hey brother! I’m glad you decided to take this route. It sounds like your taking the right steps early which is great. You stand a good chance of getting aviation being as proactive as you are, most wait till they have arrived at OCS to start that whole process. As for the amount of slots it’s just up to how many packets they accept and the number can very from class to class. In my class we have two that are branches aviation from the national guard side and there are about 5 or 6 more on the active side getting their packets reviewed as I write this.

[@illycrpz]

How difficult was the board. Was it like Promotion board or solider of the month board. OCS sounds like basic all over again. Thanks on the behalf of her husband, Im Active duty

[@j-31fitness82]

My experience what not that tough, it does follow a format close to the promotion board but it also has a portion that they really just ask question about you to see what your reasons are for wanting to go to OCS

[@multitieredinvestor5246]

Its not a cakewalk and no graduate wants it to be

[@JKVTrucking007]

She is adorable 😁❤❤❤❤

[@davidpointer1201]

how old are u? im 29. wanting to go OCS. non prior service. they are saying that they have no slots for non prior service. and that i must enlist first and serve as e4 for a couple years. but im concerned that i will miss the age deadline after deployment and stuff. is it true that when you are in enlisted your age is no longer a factor? ...like a 40 year old e6 can go to ocs?

[@TerraOblivion27]

Sounds like someone doesnt want to put your packet together, possibly. Sometimes there is not a slot and you may have to wait. Try different army recruiting stations and see what they say. Ask like it is your first time

[@davidpointer1201]

@IMxYOURxDADDY follow up. I also have a marijuana arrest ten years ago. Apparently I can't go OCS off the street as a cover for that. Pt scores 16 min 2 mile. 68 push-ups. 59 sit-ups. GT score 132. 95th percentile. Will they still let me do OCS as an enlisted even with my arrest as a civilian. ?

[@RangerCaptain11A]

@@davidpointer1201 just join the Army on a two year contract then before you re-up request OCS.

[@thiemtranthi7760]

Omc woman thanhk amen

[@deinc5989]

Class of 12-08 Standards No Comprimise!!!!!

[@banana-rr3ms]

You need to be E7, To attend OCS Tryouts.

[@therecoveringsaver9097]

Fake news

[@chuuninlyndon]

F*** land nav

[@RangerCaptain11A]

land nav is awesome. the worst time I spent in the Army was the patrols LT Wong, a west point graduate, lead us around for hours when he got lost.