How To Sync Drum Machines And Sequencers Via DIN SYNC, MIDI, CV/GATE And TRIGGER CLOCK!

[@mightymike1978]

Deine TR-808 sieht sowas von mint condition aus, krass! Cooles Sync-Tutorial! Überhaupt Deine Videos! Vielen Dank!!!

[@DuckTronic]

Freut mich, danke! 👍

[@gregorycampbell5142]

This rundown of different syncing options was exactly what I needed! Very helpful, concise, and well-made. Your work is much appreciated, my friend! ☝️😁

[@DuckTronic]

Thanks Gregory! 👍

[@kaesori4685]

Wow! Are you an engineer by trade? You're so knowledgable & highly skilled. Respects

[@DuckTronic]

No, it's not that difficult. It's all in the manuals of the units. 😉

[@torybrasileiro3026]

This video deserves more views

[@Frank-vf8xf]

Hi DuckTronic ...greetings. Again going to your videos to solve synchronisation problems between devices that solve my MIDI-Din Sync problems and others and thanks to your videos and knowledge that you share we can find an answer. Millions of thanks always DuckTronic 👍🙌💪✌️🙏

[@ZabiNeinOhNein]

Great help man,finaly could sync my 909 to the 303 via DinSync.Thx

[@1samwhich]

Awesome thank you for sharing this knowledge. Much appreciated! I am starting to get my head around how to sync my gear up however one thing that has me stumped is that 2 of my synths have a 1/8" "Clock In" socket where the other 2 only have DIN MIDI in, out + thru sockets. What do I need to do to clock sync them all to the master clock unit? Sequencer/synth/sampler = 1/8" Clock in, MIDI In + MIDI out . Synth #1 = 1/8" Clock in, MIDI in + MIDI Out/Thru (combined). Synth #2 = MIDI in + MIDI out. Synth #3 MIDI in, MIDI out + MIDI thru Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

[@thegoatcatcher]

That 808 and SH-101 sounded wicked.

[@Burien1983]

wow your 909 is modded 😆 for tempo changes i always have to tap the tempo button then turn the knob you just turn the knob 🤫 verry new but thanks for the video helps my workflow

[@jernejpavsek]

Thank you very much, this is simple cook book for jamming home, tnx

[@MrJohnnyklef]

This is my favorite Radiohead song!

[@kidtronic]

excellent and I can vouch for the diy examples he recommends

[@whatistau]

This is a great video! Very helpful! Can you tell is GATE IN good for 808 Trigger outs? (any drum machine trigger out) and can you daisy chain a few CV/GATE synths ?

[@DuckTronic]

A Trigger Out signal is only a very short pulse (808 is 20 milliseconds). A Gate In is intended for normal note lengths and is variable in length. So technically you can play very short notes with the Trigger Out, but it's not really meant for that.

[@whatistau]

@@DuckTronic Thanks for the feedback!

[@benevolencemessiah3549]

Really solid overview of synchronization concepts. Appreciate your work! Quick question, how important is it to make audio connections prior to turning on gear? Most of these manuals say it's important. But is plugging in a clock mono patch cable from a drum machine to a tb-03 while both devices are on really going to meas anything up? Or switching between midi and patch cables while units are switched on - is that actually bad for the hardware?

[@DuckTronic]

Glad you like the video. When changing MIDI, CV/Gate or Trigger/Clock cables nothing can happen. Only if you plug audio cables, loud crackling or humming noises may occur and could come out of your speakers very loudly.

[@benevolencemessiah3549]

@@DuckTronic Thank you! This is really good information.

[@yotorecords]

Fantastic!!!

[@danobable]

brilliant, i love those sounds!

[@moondog297]

Hello, I have the doepfer MAQ 16 sequencer as the slave to the TR909 and my problem is that the sequencer is sequencing the drums from the TR909 and I’m not sure how to set the midi from receiving midi information? Any Thoughts would be helpful cheers

[@mpf_agundipsht3619]

i had a mess with this for a little while, i had my zoom rhythemtrak rt123 and my kork kontrol 49 triggering from fruity loops

[@Stefan0xXx]

Hi, it is possible to sync a tb303 with a daw sequencer? For example ableton live. Thanks.

[@DuckTronic]

Yes, you only need a MIDI to DIN Sync converter. I have built one myself. You can find the info in the video description. It is also explained in the video at 06:13. For example: kentonuk.com/product/d-sync/

[@mbmartnews]

Thes device seems like a Rebirth Vst

[@Frank-vf8xf]

That's what I thought 25 years ago when I used REBIRTH 😂😂✌️

[@dpalaoro]

So wait, 7:02, is the tr909 triggering the tb303 with midi note data too? Meaning, are the kick highats, etc from tr909 have midi notes that trigger the TB303 midi notes? Or is it just start amd stop midi data? I ask, because I remember hearing some performances somewhere in the early 90s, where the synths were basically repeating the same rhythm as the drum rhythm.

[@DuckTronic]

Hello, at 7:02 the TR-909 triggers the TB-03 (not the TB-303) via MIDI. The 909 sends a MIDI clock signal so that both devices run synchronously. In this case, only a start/stop signal and the tempo signal are required. 👍

[@dpalaoro]

@@DuckTronic ohh okay. So start and stop. Got it. 👍 Thanks. Have you ever seen the video with A Guy Called Gerald?? It's on KZbin.

[@DuckTronic]

@@dpalaoro I'm not sure. What exactly is it called?

[@dpalaoro]

@@DuckTronic kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZeuq3umqLaertEsi=rzqzeX58iXUWGf4q I hope you get the link

[@danalexpiano]

This is just great!

[@nunomollc]

Just FYI, paralleling MIDI cable will add stress to the source device. .

[@eldjswett]

Is there a way to sync or quantize the arpeggio of one device played live to a drum machine, so that the key strokes fit the same grid?

[@jonarnaldo]

Yes, I've been trying to figure out the same thing!

[@mightymike1978]

Yes, one has to be master and the other has to be slave. I did that with the arpeggiator of my Arturia Keystep for example. Keystep is a good master btw… 😂

[@DisciplinedCommotion]

Hi there, does the mdi out of a drum machine just send tempo and start stop information. For instance I want to play a sequence or arpeggiator on a synth' with the drum machine just controlling start stop and tempo, without sending drum information. Thanks Tim.

[@mastersunfish]

I am wondering this as well

[@molnoob3451]

Hey man - Should this work when connecting any two drum machines using a Midi In / Out cable connected between the two?? I have a Roland TR8 and an MFB Tanzbar 2 Analogue drum machine which I want to slave the Tanzbar to the TR8. I will get one of these cables to try it out if that is the case. Cheers,

[@DuckTronic]

Hello! Sure, the TR-8 should send a MIDI clock signal and the Tanzbär 2 should be able to receive it without any problems. See pages 18 and 22 of the Tanzbär 2 manual. You need a MIDI cable with at least three poles (1,3,5) occupied. Cheers

[@molnoob3451]

@@DuckTronic thanks for your reply!

[@eduardcornelis8162]

DUCKTRONIC Thanks for this video do you have any advice on syncing the mc202 , i have a arturia bsp start and stop works but starts to drift . I can solder but have no clue on what to do Any tips are welcome cheers

[@DuckTronic]

@@eduardcornelis8162 How did you connect the two devices? I didn't have one of the devices yet, but I think I would use the MIDI output of the Arturia BSP and go to the DIN sync input of the MC-202 via the MIDI->DIN sync converter. Either with a purchased converter or with the DIY converter from Colin Fraser. If you have any questions, please feel free to write me a pm.

[@marcogrillo72]

WOW VERY GOOD JOB

[@domboul572]

If my TR8 is clocked via USB to my DAW, could I take the "MIDI out" on it and got to the "SYNC in" of my MC202 (with the converter of course) in order to sync both the TR8 and the 202 with my DAW?

[@DuckTronic]

I think that should work. I have both devices here and can try it out as soon as I have time. Which MIDI to DIN sync converter do you want to use?

[@domboul572]

@@DuckTronic Kenton D-SYNC. I believe it will work fine I'm just waiting on midi cables to come in the mail 😆

[@DJ_Joe_DC]

Legend.

[@jamesmoore2223]

noob here.. how can i sync my RX11 to the ableton metronome?

[@evanjones2974]

"The bass line" 🐟

[@miles46100]

So if my drum machine has a built-in sequencer pattern programmer, and I want to sequence a song together using a daisy chain, the clock sync won't actually sequence the instruments will it? Like the exact times and occurrences of a bass line on one device or rests and breaks? It'll just play everything all at once?

[@Oliver-OBM]

Hi, I'm afraid I'm not sure what you mean. You want to use a drum machine (e.g. Roland TR-x0x) to control or synchronize another instrument via Midi?

[@miles46100]

@@Oliver-OBM I mean can I still program each instrument like exactly on a certain beat or measure? So that each instrument will play as if a band was playing it. Instead of everything playing all at once.

[@miles46100]

@@Oliver-OBM Like variations of the song.

[@miles46100]

@@Oliver-OBM Like location data on a pattern based sequencer drum machine

[@jochemw97]

@@miles46100 You can still edit, program, change or delete patterns, sure. Everything is exactly the same, but it'll play on the exact BPM of the other device. That's it.

[@djdesign_]

My tb-303 and tr-707 aren't syncing. Is pulling out the DIN SYNC cable the method with the tr-707 also? Can I use a MIDI cable for this?

[@DuckTronic]

Hi Keith. You have to connect the TR-707 to the TB-303 with a 5 pin DIN cable (All 5 poles must be occupied!). Then it should work without problems. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIvXgZ6da6qJfK8 If not, you have to check your cable or the devices. Many greetings

[@lopezchester87]

What if I want to sync drum machine to a Mixer and cdjs.

[@DuckTronic]

The DJ software should be able to send a MIDI clock signal. It can be used to synchronize external devices. But there is so much DJ hardware that I can't say anything specific about it. I think there are a lot of other videos on KZbin about DJ hardware and synchronization, right?

[@BishopEddie5443]

Much needed. Thanks!

[@crmatt99]

How about merge ? I want send midi clock from a beatstep pro and a midi keyboard into and midi to CV converter for modular synthesis. The goal is inside this midi/CV converter is an arpeggiator. I can't pass polyphonic midi info through the beatstep pro unfortunately other wise the keyboard would go to the beatstep. Kenton merge box perhaps?

[@DuckTronic]

If you want to use two MIDI sources (Beatstep & MIDI Keyboard) and send them to one device (MIDI / CV converter) you need a MIDI interface. I don't know the Kenton Merge Box, but it looks like it was made for such things.

[@crmatt99]

@@DuckTronic Right. I solved the issue. I was stuck on using the clock in on 1 beat resolution. Once I moved the Beastep Pro 24ppq resolution I got the results. Analog clock source into Beatstep in slave mode. Drum Pad #8 analog out into analog clock input on the Midi/cv converter and the Keyboard there as well. This turns out to be much cooler than using the clock output. This way I can hold a chord down or whatever and have a sequenced rhythmic pattern to play the arpeggiator. and it's in time with the sequencer.

[@KatyTarantino]

HI i have question, I have a lot of synths(tr8, monologue, microkorg, minibrute, kaosspad, volca beats, keys, samples and mix , but just a 4 channel mix (xone 4D) . it is necessary to buy more channel mix or is possible to connect it together??? ... i am desperate. no one nearby can't help me :((

[@DuckTronic]

Hi, the video is mainly about the synchronization of the devices. But you want to hear your devices at the same time, so you want to sum up the audio outputs, right? You need one audio channel (maybe stereo) for each device on your audio mixer. So you need a mixing console with more channels.

[@jacquesd5781]

2:24 Rush - By-Tor and the Snow Dog.

[@manucontrovento]

Hi everyone. I humbly ask the community for help, since I've NEVER been able to sync two or more devices using mini jack sync. I've owned many, including korg volcas, Arturia keystep, etc. Now I've got some second-hand devices: korg Electribe 2 sampler, sonicware Liven LoFi-12, Liven XFM... I've tried a lot of times, since they all have the Sync In and Out ports, and I NEVER did it. I don't understand what is wrong: do I need specific mini jack for sync? Isn't a regular stereo mini jack fitting for this? How can I understand if polarity is right and/or how to set it correctly? Is there a complete guide to start with? Until now I connected the devices using the midi ports, but since I'd like to use them in some cases for other devices such as a midi keyboard, I'd like to set them free and start Syncing, at last. Thanks anyone for helping!

[@faciality]

any updates?

[@manucontrovento]

@@faciality no

[@faciality]

@@manucontrovento Id recommend asking on r/synthesizers bro! or try using chat GPT - can be pretty helpful with technical shit sometimes - for example yesterday i was trying to figure out how to connect my MPC, Minilogue, and Volca…. it described CV, SYNC, and MIDI - and midi to my understanding has the most function - and i asked about how I should route it if I want the MPC to be sending the signal/tempo out to others - whether daisy chaining would be possible (no, ill need to get a MIDI Thru hub to connect my devices separately to the MPC Midi out port) - sorry point is try askin the bot bro 🤖🤣

[@Monodyn]

3:13 Turkish Basar

[@phat111]

What’s the easiest way to connect an op1 to drumbrute, volcas etc? I’m getting hella confused

[@bdxfhsf]

go to Random Noise KZbin channel and ask about drumbrute or go to Sonic Charge website Forums.. The guys who run Sonic Charge had a MAJOR hand in OP-1

[@therandomnesssshow]

Wait, So it is possible to control an 808s sequence via midi? I mean using a software sequencer outputting notes into the din-sync port.

[@DuckTronic]

No, the D.A.W only sends a MIDI clock signal to a MIDI Clock to DIN Sync converter. (I build the free and very cheap d.i.y. converter from colin fraser, like shown at 6:29 in the video. You can find the link in the description.) This converter sends the tempo via DIN Sync to the TR-808. The beat was programmed on the internal sequencer of the TR-808. If you need, there are various MIDI modifications available to send MIDI notes from a sequencer to the TR-808 and to trigger the instruments.

[@jamsloud8103]

It's not sending drum triggers to the 808, just controlling the tempo of the 808. His beat was programmed on the 808.

[@richardlynneweisgerber2552]

this topic is important that voice is not

[@maxbrank]

Hello, I own a tr-808 and a doepfer msy-2 . How can apply swing to 808 from Ableton live 9 please ?

[@maxbrank]

Nowadays there was a global swing in the top left of the screen. Now we have to apply groove to each clip and the global swing affects these clips... I need to swing the clock to 808

[@DuckTronic]

Hello, I guess this isn't working. Or very badly. The 16th Midi Clock is converted to 24th for DIN Sync and delivers only the tempo signal for the whole pattern. I don't use Ableton, so I don't know if Ableton can send a swinging MIDI clock. Just try around. Maybe it will work reasonably well.

[@maxbrank]

@@DuckTronic thank you but I'm afraid it's dead.

[@maxbrank]

@@DuckTronic do you know if it's possible to swing clock for 808 with an Arturia Beatstep pro ? Thx

[@DuckTronic]

@@maxbrank Sorry, I haven't worked with the beatstep yet, so I don't know.

[@xisotopex]

what do trigger and clock correspond to? gate? trying to stop and start external sequencers when midi is not an option....

[@antonigumua6548]

Does this work with every drum machine that has MIDI in and out? I have a dr 770 and want to sync with Korg volcas. Anyone knows and can help me?

[@DuckTronic]

Yes, via MIDI you should be able to synchronize all devices easily. Check the manuals to see if you need to set up the devices for MIDI synchronization beforehand.

[@hb-fc3jj]

Get or make a MIDI thru box Use the dr 770 as master and send midi out to the thru box and then from its multiple outputs to the volca midi ins Most midi thru boxes have 4 or 5 outputs and are pretty cheap

[@FreonTheFrozen]

"The Ca-BeLL"

[@ageshero]

Why does it give me serious anxiety when he jingle jangles the midi plugs in. Eesh.

[@TheOfficialFba]

Hello; im trying to trigger out rimshot from TR8S to Moog Grandmother. But it doesnt work. Could you help please?

[@DuckTronic]

Hello! Maybe this video will help you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3ucamurnK2ajpo Otherwise you have to check the voltage of the trigger output from the tr8s. If it is enough for the Grandmother. I'm not shure what kind of trigger the Grandmother need.

[@alianshampoprisioners7056]

No need more...

[@wagnerborba5183]

Congratulations an excellent video a lot of information that we need as I can acquire this product? can you send information in my email so that i can assemble or buy this circuit?

[@DuckTronic]

Hello, thank you very much. I do not sell any products. In the video description you will find the links to the converters, if that is what you meant!?