Honestly, I think hyper offence and stall are usually the stronger teams, while balanced or bulky can be more creative and harder to use consistently
@NathanLikesChicken4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like all of them have equal strength when played at the top level. I just find the straightforward process of playing HO/stall make them seem better. It's usually very easy to understand what you should be doing and when, whereas other forms of teams require a bit more practice and intuition
@user-hb7bo4mr2i4 жыл бұрын
Stalls and offenses can also bring some creativity to check some threats
@17deluxe512 жыл бұрын
@@NathanLikesChicken The big reason for this is that you have to learn exactly what the strengths are for different pokemon, whereas in a HO or Stall team its extremely straightforward as the roles are easy to memorize imo
@lulu82o2 жыл бұрын
@@17deluxe51 i think HO and stall are the hardest to play/build correctly, but also, from what i saw, seem to be the most successful in tours
@ASH-bb4sg2 жыл бұрын
depends on the metagame. if game have a metagame full of super good fast strong pokemons , then stall maybe a bad idea. if emtagame has more defensive power and less offensive pokemon, then stall is great . last for past generations , speed level of pokemons keep increasing and icnreasing. in sword and shield metagame speed slowed down a little bit. base 100 is considered good speed in sword and shield . so this kind of metagame has perfect oportunity for all kind of teams , stall balanced hyper offense etc etc. stall was bad when megas came out bcz they were just too powerful. that defensive pokemon cant keep up with offense
@namomattrix98084 жыл бұрын
_Looks at the bell icon_ Me: I wonder who uploaded at this hour. _sees Nathan uploaded part 2_ O.O
@phanpy28604 жыл бұрын
Great video you covered everything you need to know with these types of teams or at least the basics amazingly.
@Eubanksy4 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely more of a VGC player these days, but I love your videos and think your knowledge and ability to explain that knowledge is great. Your content is fantastic and I really hope you keep it up!
@NathanLikesChicken4 жыл бұрын
I've mentioned it before but I do have some content planned in a while once I can afford a capture card - but I really appreciate the support!
@MathewDrafts4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work as always mate! Really enjoying this series. I find bulky offence very difficult to define as you said, but I think it’s still my favourite play style :)
@aussieemu34984 жыл бұрын
Nathan, mate. This is a good video and I agree with all your points except one: There is another member on the Spectrum of teams: The cheese team.
@NathanLikesChicken4 жыл бұрын
Oh man I've wanted to make a video on cheesy teams for a while now! Even just the idea of cheese in pokemon on a granular, set-by-set basis would be fun. Personally I didnt throw it on this video a) because I feel like it doesnt actually fit on the spectrum of teams and b) much like hyper offense, I felt it deserved a deep dive of its own
@17deluxe512 жыл бұрын
@@NathanLikesChicken Fire Type Silvally with surf has saved many a battle for me. However, Eviolite Type: Null seems to be good as well lol
@luiegiii11 ай бұрын
Bro what are you talking about that first video was fire. It was really helpful to understand the concepts. This game is hard and a good foundation is really great.
@qlorainium81303 жыл бұрын
sheeesh, ready to make a team now after rewatching all the episodes back and back.
@WiIICheck4 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy building bulky and weather offensive teams. I’ve tried defensive strategies, it just isn’t for me :(
@iBenjamin10002 жыл бұрын
I always struggled a little to figure out what was the right picks for a balanced team. since I would prefer to play balance if I was starting out in competitive. seems like it's pretty simple to choose for balance. a couple offense, a couple defense. throw in some utility defense.
@Rev3rberations4 жыл бұрын
Just found your content, going through it now. Good stuff! To touch on the Offense archetype, I always seem to build my weather teams (I love weather teams) as Bulky Offense-oriented, even Rain! I find it nice to have that backbone of 1-2 pivots to compliment a weather-abuser/sweeper, and it certainly smooths out match-ups where going too hard on a monotype-esque team can get you resisted and countered by one enemy coverage move. Excellent video!
@moy72562 жыл бұрын
Your vids are helping me with makeing teams!
@metrapatra4 жыл бұрын
Gravity's one of those moves I've always wanted to make a team around. A video about it would be great! Also do you plan on doing videos about doubles/VGC or only singles?
@NathanLikesChicken4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to make VGC/doubles content, and even BSS singles actually. However I feel that content works best with actual in-game footage from the switch. For the time being I'm saving up for a good capture card to do so, but I'll definitely make some VGC content when I get my hands on one.
@luandossantosgrili3 жыл бұрын
Starmie =best speed control
@durdlekingdom8259 Жыл бұрын
Hi it's me, ya boi from the future Thanks for this video series, it's going to help with the S/V meta that's developing right now
@kryder7573 жыл бұрын
Great videos man. I’m very new to competitive (hence why I’m watching your videos) and I was wondering if any of this applies to the vgc rules in the 2v2 format.
@NathanLikesChicken3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! Unfortunately most of my videos are designed with singles in mind, but there's definitely lots of concepts that carry over to VGC formats like how trick room works, or concepts like dragmag or phazing. My goal is to expand into VGC tutorials eventually though!
@kryder7573 жыл бұрын
@@NathanLikesChicken wow dude thanks for the quick response. Yeah I just watched the fourth installment of this series and wow. Thanks for all the helpful information.
@yu_gup37214 жыл бұрын
Love the video keep doing what you do.
@foreststickofficial30703 жыл бұрын
I have been playing with very seperate pokemon roles. I have 2 sweepers like mimikyu 3 stall like cottonee and 1 balanced
@efnfen4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Nathan. Keep it up.
@lulu82o2 жыл бұрын
As a stall player, i want to bring up a point: apart from finding a way to deal with traptran and lele, the hardest part is to find a way to beat stall yourself. Fitting a stallbreaker on a stall is hard. Clef is the often the best but is predictable.
@eznorelol11743 жыл бұрын
I underestimated someone using butterfree... I learned my lesson
good video, but just wondering would you expand your content to like 3v3 matchs ? if not thats fine.
@NathanLikesChicken4 жыл бұрын
I've said as much with 2v2 and VGC, but I'd really love to dig deep into the cartridge specific metagames! Personally though, I'd like to wait until I can raise money to afford a capture card, so I can do it on my switch, which is the best method for that type of content in my opinion
@justinr.5074 жыл бұрын
@@NathanLikesChicken understandable
@bossdawg41 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish there was a video like this for VGC also I have to know the song at the end of this video!
@THESHADOWMASTER92 жыл бұрын
My current team is a dark-type with Grimsnarl and tyranitar walls, yveltal and urshifu sweepers, and currently reworking the last two.
@MegaGaming114 жыл бұрын
So ... do you have anything to say about type themed teams in comp Pokemon gameplay? Like, say a person has a team based around the common themes of Dragon Type pokemon; what kind of team would that be? Would/Could it even be viable? I have lots of questions when it comes to this particular thing, and I'd love to have a Dragon/Water team mix.
@masonstohler52082 жыл бұрын
You can overwhelm people with a single type, but you don't wanna do it with dragon as nothing is weak to it, water is pretty good with rain support though
@MegaGaming112 жыл бұрын
@@masonstohler5208 Hmm, so more water pokemon but not as many dragon?
@masonstohler52082 жыл бұрын
@@MegaGaming11 Really depends on how the team as a whole functions, I'd recommend watch a video on rain teams or his video on cores
@MegaGaming112 жыл бұрын
@@masonstohler5208 Oki! Ty for the info!
@plantinapot91693 жыл бұрын
Playing stall sounds fun, am I a sadist? Or not, it's just that usually slow is considered toxic to my knowledge. Also thanks for the video, I started writing a fan fiction so I needed to research Pokemon and now I'm stuck in a week long spiral lol.
@ragpyldz16244 жыл бұрын
A bit unrelated but I sometimes can't decide between life orb and choice items. What to use when?
@NathanLikesChicken4 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you mean choice band/specs vs LO, instead of scarf, as those roles are usually different and depend on how much speed you need. But choosing between damage boosting items is tricky. Sometimes, a pokemon like kyurem has difficulty with LO because it already takes so much residual chip damage from entry hazards. But in my experience, a good rule of thumb can be evaluating how important switching moves is. To use the kyurem example again, it can use choice specs because 90% of its attacks are going to be ice beam and it only really needs freeze dry for the odd water type. However if you compare that to something like zeraora, there's tons of pokemon that can swap in on its primary attacking move, plasma fists, like hippowdown, toad, most rotoms, opposing zeraoras, etc. So having the life orb's ability to switch between moves is valuable.
@ragpyldz16244 жыл бұрын
@@NathanLikesChicken Thank you for responding! Of course, scarf is different than the others. So, its kinda like what role it has in the team and how often I use certain attacks.
@NathanLikesChicken4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I'd generally say. Of course there's also times where the 1.3x damage from life orb just doesn't cut it. It's important to know exactly which threats you're trying to hit. A life orb aegislash's shadow sneak may not knock out dragapult from full, when a banded one would!
@TsquaredAM3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are incredibly helpful! Subscribed
@relaxoirl59202 жыл бұрын
Playing against stall feels like playing poker with someone who always goes for safe plays without ever bluffing, sure it's not against the rules but it sure as hell is no fun either...
@dalvim13 жыл бұрын
thanks man, these videos are going to help me alot:)
@SuouEdits75333 жыл бұрын
Hey man you help me so much
@rantoxdarkpredator484 жыл бұрын
Do you play UU as well? Do one UU or RU once.
@NathanLikesChicken4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE UU this gen actually! When I was streaming a lot I used to play that tier all the time. I'd be down to do a showdown live of the tier sometime if the interest is there
@splurgy.3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a discord? I’d love to get pointers from you seeing as this is still pretty overwhelming
@brayloncroom78073 жыл бұрын
great tutorial as usual!
@rendylljayandamon88323 жыл бұрын
Can I ask for the definition for the terms used in roles?? I'm quite new here so I don't really know much for example, I don't know what is a stallbreaker.. And I don't want to look for on other channel.. Hope someone would reply..
@NathanLikesChicken3 жыл бұрын
Pokemon that use taunt or substitute are considered stallbreakers! So if you're afraid of a defensive pokemon using something like toxic or toxic spikes or doing something to impede your offensive pokemon, a stallbreaker pokemon would be able to prevent that by using taunt (preventing all non attacking movies from working) or substitute, which Ive made a video on, but essentially blocks a lot of status moves
@rendylljayandamon88323 жыл бұрын
@@NathanLikesChicken I see... Thank you very much..
@ajm26123 жыл бұрын
If you wanna stall I recommend crustal because it is very bulky and can learn spikes and toxic spikes Edit: and also a galvantula because of sticky web it’s got a decent attack and it’s very very fast
@twopair2578 Жыл бұрын
what site will i search for 1:56
@NathanLikesChicken Жыл бұрын
It's the smogon forums, just google "smogon viability rankings Gen 9 OU" or whatever metagame you're looking to play
@mikojYT8 ай бұрын
This applies to pokemmo as well doesn't it🤔
@kiokayx2 жыл бұрын
My fav are stalls (they get the most hate )💀
@Murkyi2 жыл бұрын
then theres me CHEEZ i build cheezy decks ...... yea.. i have issues... I KNOW THIS
@iridepiggies3 күн бұрын
Go birds🦅
@pokeinator78342 жыл бұрын
By far the weakest is bulky offence I have not seen a great bulky offence team ever. Hyper offence is by far the most fun and very strong too Stall should be banned jk And balance is slightly less annoying stall
@pokeinator78342 жыл бұрын
I would like to say I love bulky offence but I just don’t think it’s great
@tjonsmith63653 жыл бұрын
You forgot about *FEAR* .
@manupanu93903 жыл бұрын
That's not a team style. It's a gimmick
@futurized_2 жыл бұрын
Taillow (Scrappy) Item: Focus Sash - Endeavour - Quick Attack Dies to other priority users though like Scizor or Rillaboom, or Rayquaza if you play Ubers/AG.
@THISisaplasticTREE3 жыл бұрын
Go birds
@Jake-nz9gj3 жыл бұрын
0 dislikes
@axolotl17772 жыл бұрын
You are handsome (no homo)
@abyssalAnnihilation Жыл бұрын
Nathan likes children
@trenchcoatdoggo51854 жыл бұрын
Stall is trash...
@user-hb7bo4mr2i4 жыл бұрын
It's not.
@trenchcoatdoggo51854 жыл бұрын
Yes it is you 'stall user'
@johnjohnson13513 жыл бұрын
Just because the tactic makes you salty, doesn't mean it's bad. Everyone hates stall, however you can't deny it wins games.