How to tell which version of the B58 is in your car (Visual Differences)

Which B58 Version is Best: • Gen 1 B58 vs B58TU? Wh...
Visual differences in the different B58 versions as well as which vehicles have which version
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[@kern417]

Which B58 Version is Best: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3-mhXampbNkfMk

[@B58_Nick]

Absolutely amazing video man, I’ve been watching you since I had my E90 335i and now that I have a m340i 2020 , all of these videos are so much more helping now, I’m so thankful to be in this position where I’m at now, it’s not cheap and I’m only 22 but I’m so happy 🙌🏻🔥

[@FNJavierr]

Great video as always!

[@fafinaf]

I appreciate your videos so much bro. Thank you for everything you do and for all the content you provide. You’ve helped me so much 💪

[@mountjoy23]

I've come from an E91 6MT and found a 2018 Msport 340i 6mt. Thank you for passing on your knowledge and passion.

[@user-vf1zr1jl9z]

Very detailed explanation. Excellent knowledge..

[@F60Stunt]

Actually like the long video 👍👍 thanks for the info

[@GrecoLoscar]

Great Video, Thanks

[@electropalsceo]

Thanks this was perfect explanation

[@F60Stunt]

Solid video 👍👍👍

[@jaimatic23]

It’s interesting that they went back to the two port design on the newer model

[@MitchM240]

I just stumbled on this channel THAT turbo! Holly shit! LOL

[@EZ_EZzzz]

I appreciate your videos man, I have a good understanding of most things but with you explaining more it’s a lot more interesting, since I’m thinking of getting a B58 powered car, but as of right now I’m in between 3 cars which are a 340i , a 540i or a Q50 Red Sport 400. I still haven’t decided yet, I need AWD and a good powertrain and these cars are about same the same price. Anyways Thanks for the video man 👍🏽

[@jeroendeweerd9874]

go for 440i gran coupe, it is the perfect car

[@EZ_EZzzz]

@@jeroendeweerd9874 will look into it, since I can’t have a coupe too small, but the gran coupe fits right in hehe. I’ll see if I can find a good deal. Good looking out man

[@780brando]

Only had my M340i for a few weeks, the more I learn about it the more I love it. Thanks for the great info as always kern!

[@kern417]

glad to help

[@B58_Nick]

I just got my m340i last month man, I love it to death, happy to hear you got yours too

[@NihilistSolitude]

I know I have the OG but when the first revision came out I did bring it to BMW to get the msspk and also requested all the revision should check if they actually did it

[@kern417]

If you have the loud exhaust and felt the extra torque then you got it

[@thestreamreader]

Is there a listing somewhere to find out what engine you would get. If I want to ensure I get the b58tu with 6 ports.

[@ii_dynasty]

The G30 got ID7 lite in 2020 so it makes sense.

[@judge1231]

Great video again kern. Don't put any chapters. Force us all to learn more regardless of application. It'll make us decide which future engine to go for. Currently have a 19 440i xdrive and love it. Be safe out there.

[@kern417]

Just realized I completely forgot to add them haha but thank you for the support 🙏🏾

[@judge1231]

@kern417 well, thanks to you brother I now have decided I'm gonna bite the bullet and wait 2 maybe 3 yrs max for the next 440i-xDrive. Can't wait to see what they developed and tune with this from the factory. Blessings 🙌🏼 see you on fb soon.

[@henrybevan9677]

Hi, can you confirm which engine the 840i has - its the only model which isn't mentioned in this video - thanks

[@Great_America]

Looks like the new Gen 4 will be in the 2025 X3 M50 with 396 HP. Not sure if this will have 2 or 4 ports 🤔

[@daxiongBaoli-xu8in]

b58b30a highoutput or low output?😢

[@puneetaujla3120]

2020 740i xdrive?

[@KRPintos]

Looking into going from my GTI 2019 Performance pack 6MT into a 240. What year would you recommend?

[@kern417]

2018-2019

[@kosditrade]

Hi kern, it seems the third generation TU is not sold in Europe (yet). The 740 come with diesel engine.

[@kern417]

Keep your fingers crossed it comes soon

[@01Rosebank]

Hi. I wanna remove heat exchanger in my B58 engine. Please advise me if I should remove it by removing air intake or come from bottom.

[@kern417]

i've already posted a heat exchanger diy years ago. search for it.

[@elian7082]

i appreciate this video very much, what engine does a 2018 440i gran coupe (non m-sport) have?

[@kern417]

Gen 1

[@elian7082]

@@kern417 thanks man 👌🏽 i was worried i was getting an n55, even though they’re great, but i’ve heard better things about the b58

[@shelbyhaiketic4212]

@@kern417 I have a 2018 540i do I have the b58tu hpfp like the m340i or Supra fuel pump ? Or I have the regular one ?

[@kern417]

Gen 1

[@jadew1547]

I can’t believe I got the gen 1 in a freaking 2019

[@leonardovu997]

Which engine does a 2017 440i gran coupe m performance have? And is it reliable? Thanks

[@kern417]

gen 1 b58 yes

[@Nostrum19]

2025 M240i coming with a Gen 3 or 2?

[@garethbatster6205]

December 2019 M340i X drive? Tried to find out but can’t? Thanks

[@kern417]

Gen 2

[@99pkon]

I’m confused so all the new 5 series 2020+ are low output versions?

[@kern417]

yes

[@raymondcolter1708]

I have a 2017 BMW 640i gran coupe xdrive. I believe I have the N55. Is this correct?

[@kern417]

Yes

[@yahtadi5152]

Too bad you did not talk about mild hybrid. I really wanted to know which B58 with it and what are the differences between them. All G series with B58 is mild hybird, but strangely I once found it on youtube m140i with mild-hybird B58 in it, I found F30 340i as well

[@kern417]

mild hybrid is a new thing. it's not available on any F-series vehicles.

[@ai3270]

Hey great vidéos, great content. You definitly know youre stuff , i really appreciate youre knowledge. I have a M440i 2019 i have the tu pump, does that mean i need to tune my mhd stage 2 + or i woyld need to upgrade to dorsch stage 1 for that? Im currently tune mhd stage 2 with 95 oct. Im using 94 oct tho, thats what we have in Canada here petro 94.

[@kern417]

You need a TU pump to run stage 2 hpfp You should not run 94 octane on a 95 tune

[@thedrvn]

would you buy a water damaged co part 340i 2020 sight unseen?

[@kern417]

Depends on the price. That can be a big headache

[@cupompa]

Did the USA ever get the F31 340i (Wagon)?

[@kern417]

Nope 🥲

[@dizzzzy001]

I’m debating on getting a 540i but not sure what year model I should get. Do they all have the same b58 ? Which year would be the best to get

[@kern417]

All B58s are good B58s. Just depends on your goals with the car

[@dizzzzy001]

@@kern417 honestly I tell myself ima just put a downpipe, intake, exhaust and tune but Ik i might get sucked down the rabbit hole.

[@ii_dynasty]

I have a feeling you didn't watch the full video.

[@legoman911]

The reason why they put the lower output version B58 in the later bigger cars - 5 and 7 series must have been because both of them have a 50i version car with the N63. I think bmw didn’t want to confuse 5 and 7 series performance buyers with a high powered b58 vs a n63, likely would have hurt n63 sales

[@kern417]

the same could be said for the 3 and 4 series. The M240i makes more power than the 340i, but the M2 makes less power than the M3. So the gap in 2 series is closer than 3 series. It depends on a lot of factors.

[@legoman911]

@@kern417 where is gets complicated for the bigger cars is the extra engine they have in the performance versions. I.e. B58, N63 and S63. The smaller cars have B58 and S58.

[@kern417]

it's no different. the smaller cars have b48, b58, and s58. but the b58 is put in everything from a 1 series to an X7. so in a lot of cases the bigger cars come with more power because the bigger cars have more weight. so again it just depends on how they decide to approach it. Also they introduced the M-lite designation so those cars basically come with an MMPSK tune similar to what was offered as an option on Gen 1. Now it's just a standard package, so all the cars come with Msport trim, MPPSK tune, Mperformance LSD, etc.

[@benbinks2012]

Which generation responds best to a Stage 1 tune? Have the TU's got less in reserve from a straight remap? 👍

[@kern417]

They have more fueling so make more at just stage 1

[@AH-jv5zt]

TU has a better flow hpfp,

[@danfratamico]

I don't believe two vs. six port has anything to do with the output. The two port one has the exhaust manifold embedded into the cylinder head.

[@kern417]

all 2 port TU vehicles come with less power than 6 TU port vehicles. fact.

[@dimitrydimitry6180]

So basically all gen 1 are 6 port and gen 2 are mix so then all 2017 to 2020 440s are 6 port correct?

[@kern417]

Correct

[@dimitrydimitry6180]

@kern417 thanks for always answering man I appreciate you 🙏

[@imperatormouse2735]

Would you consider the 6 port as the more friendly engine in terms of durability and tuning potential vs. the 2 port?

[@kern417]

Yes

[@g.thandi824]

@@kern417 Was looking for a 2019 x3 m40i for a while but recently picked up a g05 x5 40i - Production date 2019-05-01. Through your videos, I am aware of the differences in b58 between the 2018-2019 x3 m40i (6 port) and 2019 x5 40i (2 port). For the x5, I am thinking the b58tu and a higher quality catted DP (something like AA - don't want smell) + MHD. Would you suggest anything else? Would you recommend a different catted DP? I can't find much info on the g05 forums - it's super quiet there..!

[@kern417]

@@g.thandi824 keep in mind the 2 port vs 6 port conversation is dealing with the gen 2 engines. All gen 1 are 6 port. A catted downpipe is fine for stock turbo and moderate power levels. They all work similarly but some people like finding a downpipe with a gesi cat since they are good quality

[@g.thandi824]

@@kern417 Ohhh, thanks for clarifying. In this case, tu pump (worth it?), or nahhh?

[@kern417]

@@g.thandi824 you already have a TU pump if its a TU engine

[@the_batmobile0.4]

Mine says B58B30MO ?Which one is that?

[@kern417]

2:02

[@Gamingwitharilleax]

2019 440 I xdrive ?

[@kern417]

Gen 1

[@TheVideoisAwsome]

1st gen gang

[@kosditrade]

Sorry, just find out, i think the X7 have this third generation B58.

[@lees715]

2020 bmw x7 m40i? Does it have gen 2 b58??

[@erich1308]

1st.....

[@tontom4822]

First to write something🤣👍