Port Injection or Bigger HPFP? Which one is right for your B58

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kern417

kern417

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@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
I should also mention that if you have a B58TU, i.e. M340, Supra, etc, there are no HPFP upgrades available. Those cars come with the TU pump, so your only option is port injection.
@Dutch79
@Dutch79 3 жыл бұрын
Also no St1/2 Dorch?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
There are no hpfp options for TU engines.
@Dutch79
@Dutch79 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of strange. Because the same TU fits on a non-TU. Will they come in the future probably?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dutch79 It's not about fitment. It's about programming. The TU engine runs at a higher pressure so the aftermarket pumps for non-TU engines don't support the fuel pressures that the TU engine needs. I'm not sure that they plan on making upgraded pumps for TU engines but it's possible.
@thegrimmer
@thegrimmer 2 жыл бұрын
@kern417 Is port injection enough to avoid walnut blasting forever or am I dreaming? Keep up the killer B58 work. Such a resource.
@p_934
@p_934 3 жыл бұрын
Bro your channel is an absolute gold mine. Doing research for a 340 I’d like to build one day and wow, your channel has everything. 👍
@faraz.f22
@faraz.f22 3 жыл бұрын
The b58 god has spoken
@TJ-cw3mv
@TJ-cw3mv 3 жыл бұрын
There’s 6500 languages and you chose to speak facts
@screamingsaint
@screamingsaint 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative, thank you! (One thing I would request is a bit more inflection, or a touch more energy while you speak. I was really trying hard to listen, but the sound of your voice is just very relaxed/relaxing and putting me to sleep, so just a bit more energy would really help with that. Keep them coming though, because again, very informative!)
@aarondostou3888
@aarondostou3888 3 жыл бұрын
I’m spend a lot of time starting at your engine bay. Excellent video as always
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
You and me both 😌
@aarondostou3888
@aarondostou3888 3 жыл бұрын
@@kern417 it has a soothing effect 😌
@marklinley815
@marklinley815 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Well explained. Lamin terms.
@tonytube27
@tonytube27 3 жыл бұрын
Video helped a lot! Looking at PI for my N55 X3 in pursuit of maximum HP!
@antonioreynolds8248
@antonioreynolds8248 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 340 xdrive looking to go with port injection daw turbo 2.5 on e 85 so dorch stage 2 would be my to go option if I’m shooting for 650+
@kosditrade
@kosditrade Жыл бұрын
Hi Kern! In the comments of Remnant Performance i read the fuel system is already maxed out (supra), not the octane. With big turbos and 93 fuel, bigger hpfp (not on the market yet) can be usefully? What are your thoughts? thanks! Remnant Performance wrote: "Well in preliminary testing we were able to confirm the the 65 OMEGA spools faster than a Pure800 and it produced so much power that we maxed out the factory fuel system on just 18psi on 93 octane haha. We have to add our Gamma Intake Manifold & Port Injection system to find the limits of the 65 OMEGA on 93 octane. The 65 OMEGA should be capable of producing closer to 200whp more than a Pure800/850"
@lilyanimate7266
@lilyanimate7266 2 ай бұрын
hey Kern what about running the stock turbo with nos you dont seem to mention nos much. i have a b58 with downpipe and tu pump i was thinking about adding a wet shot.of nos right after the turbo so that it mixes well before hitting the intake or will that not work so well with the intercooler? i saw a round injection plate for this that installed onto the front of the.throttle body i just find myself doing alot of city driving and rarely get the chance to open it up i just wonder what the best way is to go about adding nitrous and the extra fuel it will need or is it a bad idea to even try
@mateo...
@mateo... 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid
@M3E92V8
@M3E92V8 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked the like button before the video even started bruh
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Your clicker must run E30
@dextersrt5534
@dextersrt5534 2 ай бұрын
Can you get anywhere near 700hp with just a Dorch stage 2 pump on E85?
@dextersrt5534
@dextersrt5534 2 ай бұрын
With this mods? Bm3 tune Dorch stage 2 HPFP Catless DP Mid pipe upgrade Pure80 BM3 Flex Fuel Looking to get as close to 700 without PI
@mattysterling
@mattysterling 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU B58 SENSEI
@flex4558
@flex4558 Жыл бұрын
so if i run a TU pump and port injection i can run straight e85 without issues? (with the correct tune ofc)
@kern417
@kern417 Жыл бұрын
Sure
@brandonwagner6004
@brandonwagner6004 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but even better bug zapper for these nasty cicadas lol.
@ryancox3834
@ryancox3834 3 жыл бұрын
Dont know whether you can get it in the US but I've got one called "the executioner pro" its like the port injected big turbo b58 pf the big zapper world but without any safety meshes and super powerful so keep it away from kids lol
@Davidgart12
@Davidgart12 7 ай бұрын
So if I get a upgraded instant manifold I don’t need PI
@dangelogarvin4922
@dangelogarvin4922 Жыл бұрын
I am trying to better understand which route should I go.. Port injection or direct injection. I am using my car for daily and spirited driving in the south and plan on upgrading turbo soon
@kern417
@kern417 Жыл бұрын
stick with DIY unless PI is aboslutely necessary for your goals. most people can get away with just an upgraded hpfp to meet all their needs
@NoClutchGarage
@NoClutchGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Just realized I got a shoutout 💪🏼
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
🤘🏾
@ebh295
@ebh295 3 жыл бұрын
That bug zapper though...🤣
@HookandBookinc
@HookandBookinc 2 жыл бұрын
So you’re telling me I don’t need port injection to make 600-700 whp just stage 1/2 hpfp and a bigger turbo? 🤔
@jp_b58
@jp_b58 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the yellow thing on the top right?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Harbor freight my friend
@llkjjjss
@llkjjjss 3 жыл бұрын
Lol love the bug zapper
@chekemartinez3479
@chekemartinez3479 Жыл бұрын
If I have only 91 octane available but do have access to e85 what would recommend as far fueling to hit that sweet spot
@kern417
@kern417 Жыл бұрын
e30-e50
@clubsportf56s48
@clubsportf56s48 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kern, Congrats on your 5k subs! Question : Running a bigger turbo and acces to 102 RON. Making 612hp on just the TU pump. Wanting more in the future. What do you recommend? Dorch stage 2 / WMI or Port meth injection? Looking for 650+
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Port meth
@kokotadack
@kokotadack 3 жыл бұрын
Great content, thanks a lot! How about the "improved cleanliness" some manufacturers of WMI are claiming? Do you see this additional advantage compared to a HPFP upgrade? For my understanding, a WMI kit seems to be more value for the money… you keep IATs low, have enough additional fuel for up 600+ hp with upgrade turbo and cleaner manifolds/valves…one the other hand, it is not that easy to install, you gotta keep the tank full, doesn’t look stock, etc… what do you think? I’m not for one or the other thing, just asking/discussing with someone who’s dealt a lot with these topics obviously. Thanks!
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping the system simple with an HPFP upgrade is the best solution until you absolutely need auxiliary fuel injection. I'll be posting a video about WMI this Friday.
@JN3E
@JN3E 2 жыл бұрын
Hello brother it’s great information I have a question what is Sequential Port Injector unit work well with bootmo3 You recommended my set up is A90 supra 2020 2 port with vargas Gc+ turbo kit upgrade full AWE exhaust system injen intake system cts 4.5 down pipe Bootmod3 ots Stage 2 93 octane map any idea
@kern417
@kern417 2 жыл бұрын
Motiv Reflex
@LichaelMewis
@LichaelMewis Жыл бұрын
Ok so it's state 1 or stage 2 HPFP for me.
@rengietorres9482
@rengietorres9482 3 жыл бұрын
I am targeting 700hp+, I ordered a pure800 stage 2, I already have a dorch stage 2 HPFP on the car and also ordered a port injection kit, I know u mentioned u don’t really need both, but I should easily reach my goal with that set up? With E85 ?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@aliakbari3734
@aliakbari3734 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1st gen b58 and I only have 93 available in my area, would u recommend getting port meth injection only or port meth+ hpfp pump and planning on a pure800 or vargas gc+
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Port meth is all you need
@biggs1485
@biggs1485 Жыл бұрын
So i have a 17 540i & im stage 2+ right now with tu pump on bm3 running e50. I plan on upgrading to pure 800 . Do i have to get a new hpfp or will i be good enough with port injection? Im trying to make about 600-650whp
@kern417
@kern417 Жыл бұрын
I recommend a bigger hpfp for 600-650.
@christopherlerma3903
@christopherlerma3903 Жыл бұрын
What’s up kern, Hope you have been doing well. I have a 2020 m340i and I plan on getting customed tuned by pq performance with an intake, charge pipe, Ngk spark plugs, and a transmission tune. Would I be able to run the port injection comfortably or will I need to upgrade my turbo/transmission?
@kern417
@kern417 Жыл бұрын
You can if you want but it won't make a huge difference on stock turbo.
@ncscumbagsfilms8007
@ncscumbagsfilms8007 3 жыл бұрын
My goal is 700ish. I have a bigboost gtx1000 kit with a gtx3584rs gen 2. And precision raceworks port injection? Is that all I need to reach my goal?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@tysonstokley6842
@tysonstokley6842 3 жыл бұрын
Who makes a good meth port injection for the b58? I have pure 800 and TU pump. Gen 1 b58. Or should I run a e40 mix?
@ganuv
@ganuv 2 жыл бұрын
e50
@richardzarate5250
@richardzarate5250 3 жыл бұрын
love your videos, very knowledgeable about the platform...How do you feel about the DAW Flowmax + ? I'm in-between This Or the Pure800 looking for 550-600 WHP
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be a good quality turbo but time will tell
@richardzarate5250
@richardzarate5250 3 жыл бұрын
@@kern417 would you reccomend the pure800 instead? looking for an easy install and reliability
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with either based on the results I've seen so far
@PoorlyUtilized
@PoorlyUtilized 3 жыл бұрын
Do the flowmax manufacturer have an Ig or KZbin?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
@@PoorlyUtilized search for dynamic Autowerx. They have an Instagram but it's not very active. They post a lot of Facebook though.
@yeahbuddy2480
@yeahbuddy2480 10 ай бұрын
What up kern currently sitting at custom trans tune, tu pump custom e40 tune stock turbo, I’m looking forward to purchasing a ultra flow r with a dorch stage 2.5 will that be enough to get 700whp on e with this setup? And obv upgrading lpfp
@kern417
@kern417 10 ай бұрын
you can probably get there on an ethanol mix (e40-50ish) and a perfectly dialed in tune. you will either need port injection or upgraded injectors + exhaust cam to reach 700whp on full e85.
@yeahbuddy2480
@yeahbuddy2480 10 ай бұрын
@@kern417 so let’s say I keep tu and go with a port injection plate what difference it would make to combine the port injection with the dorch 2.5?
@yoppa4918
@yoppa4918 Жыл бұрын
I know mentioned you recommend running stage 1 or 2 hpfp for 600-650hp goals, but is it safe to run tu hpfp on b58 with catless downpipe, intake, and Bm3 e30 tune? Wondering if there will be any head space at all or if I’ll be maxing out at that point. I also noticed for e50 tune in Bm3 app,there is a tu hpfp configuration. After watching this video I’m wondering if that is safe or recommended to do.
@kern417
@kern417 Жыл бұрын
stage 2+ ots maps are designed for the tu hpfp.
@bimmerfeen
@bimmerfeen 2 жыл бұрын
can i run 93 and switch to e85 whenever with a stage 2 pump
@AlexanderDietzen
@AlexanderDietzen 7 ай бұрын
I may be wrong but it would be a flex fuel sensor kit
@rayl1152
@rayl1152 3 жыл бұрын
What if you plan on only running 91 octane? What kind of power can you make max with the stock turbo?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe 420 max
@giovannilopez8213
@giovannilopez8213 3 жыл бұрын
What about the lpfp will that need upgrading as well?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Typically you need it above ~650whp
@D1Calderon
@D1Calderon 3 жыл бұрын
I’m running 91 octane and plan on keeping my stock turbo with a tune and intake/downpipe. Should I get a TU or stock is good enough?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Stock is good enough
@ganuv
@ganuv 2 жыл бұрын
TU long time ego lol
@b16dans
@b16dans 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any point me upgrading the hpfp to the tu version on an m240i on MHD stage 2 if I only have access to 99ron? As MHD don’t offer a stage 2 (+) for 99 and only 102 Ron or e40?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
It will help with a bigger turbo but not for regular stage 2 maps on stock turbo
@b16dans
@b16dans 3 жыл бұрын
@@kern417 is it possible or worth it to buy bio ethanol off eBay and add to a full tank of 99 Ron and then run an e40 map? Or does it have to be injected with a kit in the boot?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
@@b16dans yes a lot of people buy e98 online and use that for an ethanol mix tune
@jiacono
@jiacono 3 жыл бұрын
Recommendations/links for a stage 1 or 2 hpfp?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Search Kies Motorsports. They have both dorch stage 1 and dorch stage 2. www.kiesmotorsports.com?aff=28
@alnuaimy3
@alnuaimy3 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kern, thanks for the helpful videos, as always! I have a DAW turbo but haven't gotten a hpfp, yet. Would a TU pump be enough to hit 500-550 HP on 91?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
500 will be about the limit on 91. It's usually somewhere between 450-480.
@ganuv
@ganuv 2 жыл бұрын
not on 91 you need higher octane
@trapgodnah9022
@trapgodnah9022 3 жыл бұрын
Do you plan on going 700hp+ im very interested in the doc racing kit, would like to see its limits pushed
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Follow their Instagram. they posted several dynos already.
@nurgohir440
@nurgohir440 3 жыл бұрын
What're your thoughts on the dynamic autowerx upgrade turbo?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
It looks pretty good but time will tell
@marklinley815
@marklinley815 3 жыл бұрын
If you just upgrade the HPF alone, do you need a retune?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
TU pump, no Dorch/Spool, yes
@xcashinx7370
@xcashinx7370 3 жыл бұрын
Can you run a e50 blend with a stage 1 hpfp
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you just need a custom tune
@tontom4822
@tontom4822 2 жыл бұрын
Question here, with an upgraded HPFP or a PI is there any noticeable increase in fuel consumption. It would be kind of logic but who knows. You😜 cause for a Dayly it would be a downside of a mod like that. Better fueling Worse consumption🤔
@kern417
@kern417 2 жыл бұрын
It uses more fuel when it requires it. If you're just driving around town then it'll be pretty much the same
@tontom4822
@tontom4822 2 жыл бұрын
@@kern417 so best of both world, daily and performance wow. Thank you Master YODA58, Buru58
@LOL_DREAMZ
@LOL_DREAMZ 3 жыл бұрын
At what HP do we need to rebuild the engine?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
700+
@LOL_DREAMZ
@LOL_DREAMZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@kern417 perfect, thanks man!
@dcharles9903
@dcharles9903 2 жыл бұрын
Can you run full e85 on dorch stage 1 or 2?
@kern417
@kern417 2 жыл бұрын
Sure
@dcharles9903
@dcharles9903 2 жыл бұрын
@@kern417 what’s the max E mix for the Tu pump
@kern417
@kern417 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcharles9903 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIqxnXqPrKaNg5o
@trapgodnah9022
@trapgodnah9022 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, at what HP should we be upgrading the LPFP or is it only needed if your running Full e85?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on your E content and tune, but it is typically above 650-700whp.
@cire7555
@cire7555 3 жыл бұрын
If I upgrade my HPFP can I still rn 91oct or do I have to run E85 fuel?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
You can run any fuel you want
@indigorwb9625
@indigorwb9625 3 жыл бұрын
@@kern417 21 m340 can’t have an Upgraded hpfp though?
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
None are available
@ganuv
@ganuv 2 жыл бұрын
no you can run 91 and 85
@MrErball
@MrErball 3 жыл бұрын
Man up and do both ya panzy
@kern417
@kern417 3 жыл бұрын
🥲
@alisonalvessales2811
@alisonalvessales2811 2 жыл бұрын
Hiii maf off?
@LOL_DREAMZ
@LOL_DREAMZ 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, that damn engine bay. Jk bro💪💪💪
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