How to test an EV charger installation to BS7671 using the Metrel 3152 & A1532 EVSE adaptor

[@LindaTheLearner]

I love the ? / HELP screens on the Metrel MFT !!

[@efixx]

48 pages to help with testing Linda 👍

[@jaydenlayton4577]

I know I am kinda randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to stream new tv shows online?

[@colinellis460]

@Jayden Layton try flixzone. Just google for it =)

[@GiffordsElectrical]

Lovely MFT and EV tester. Great review and running through the complete testing process. Great job guys 👍

[@ashleyrowe2681]

Excellent video guys, excellent for the big companies out there installing chargers but with so many test sequences to do and over £2000 for the test kit and lead etc i do not think i will be branching out in EV Charger installs and testing.

[@anthonybragg]

This was my impression too. Still a good video,are all these tests now required as I have not seen other youtube video's (a lot of those who Gary has had in) do all these tests when installing a car charger?

[@brendanbeaver8542]

Hi Ashley, EV testing is one of the MI3152 capabilities, Voltage drop, surge protection, power measurement, harmonics and are some of the other functions available! www.metrel.co.uk/uk/shop/EIS/multifunctional-testers/mi-3152.html

[@markjohnson1106]

Ashley the equipment shown in this video is available for between £1200 and £1500. And it doesn't just test EV installations but domestic, commercial and industrial installations and it does them quickly with its autosequence functions.

[@rogerbean393]

You won’t regret getting the kit, it’s fantastic. Get the ring circuit testing gadget box and now they do a 3 phase auto testing box. I do use a fluke on site as well but do get a variation on RCD test times. Both a calibrated but it can fail with the Metrel and pass with the fluke. Usually on 5x. Save up and even consider the Mi3155.

[@fairplaytoyou2041]

@@brendanbeaver8542 can i buy direct from metrel site

[@davidroche6973]

An amazing bit of kit, I just hope that in time the cost price will fall to a level easier to absorb for the typical one man band electrician

[@brendanbeaver8542]

Hi David, there are 3 sets of the MI3152, entry set, Standard set and Euro set the difference being the accessories that come in each set. The entry set might be looking at as a starter available through the electrical wholesalers or Test and measuring distributors. The testers in each set all have the same capabilities regarding testing...if i can assist further drop me an email or give me a call [e-mail] 01924 245 000 / 07554 669 027 MI3152 sets www.metrel.co.uk/uk/shop/EIS/multifunctional-testers/mi-3152.html

[@davidroche6973]

Brendan Beaver hi Brendan, thank you for your reply, I just picked up on it. Sure will email you. Thank you again

[@Chris173972]

That tune every time it trips the RCD... would drive me bonkers.

[@efixx]

Agreed

[@PhilipHudnott]

Great video. Exactly why I love my Metrel. Are you planning to do any other videos with it? If so take a look at the A1214 easi switch for ring final testing if you can. I also like the memory storage feature for storing the results.

[@efixx]

Yes, we have more videos planned. Thanks for the heads up on the other accessory.

[@brendanbeaver486]

Hi Hudnott, please add us on FB for more tips and tricks to come for the MI3152 👍 metrel GB

[@Chris173972]

The only thing that trips me up is on the RCD test there was no instructions you have to switch between A & C modes. I know it should be knowledge but most of the other menus tell you what to do, there it just assumes you know what to do next

[@Andy-71]

If we had a scenario where we had say 4 x 22kw 3ph chargers but some vehicles are only capable of taking a single phase charge. So potentially you could have 4 cars charging defaulting to 7.4kw max all on the brown phase. Would you be better to cross the phases to try and balance out the loads. Most new cars will take a 3ph charge but some will only take a single phase.

[@richardwilliamson3624]

Love efixx and love my MI3152 👍

[@brendanbeaver8542]

Happy days Richard glad you like your tester...if you ever need my help or calibration or repair please do not hesitate to call or email me [e-mail] 01924 245000 / 07554 669 027

[@daleabnett1809]

Brilliant Video! Well put together really well delivered

[@paullyons4624]

Great video gents. Would this full sequence of test need to be carried out at installation and if an eicr was being done? Or maybe the full range of test is more for fault finding?

[@michaellawless6893]

Is the reset playing final fantasy battle win theame tune?

[@robinrichard6509]

YES ! Finally someone that spotted it ;)

[@hussmortada]

I loved this video and used it to guide me on a Sync EV install. It passed all tests until the dc test did not trip the RCD after injecting 6mA so failed. I tried several times and it still failed at that point. I have no idea what to do now!

[@azadarzaani8911]

thank you guys, even in ev course I was in they didn't explain and demonstrate like you

[@efixx]

A new EV training course is available later today - stay tuned

[@adnanjayousi9140]

Thanks for the video, One question : Why the toggle switch of the PP is represented by Amps ? the PP is the proximity pilot and it should represent the position of the EV, the CP should represent the Amps because it's role is to control the charge current...so I think at the name plates CP and PP should be switched at the device ? ..

[@jordeebrompton]

Brilliant info !!!

[@brendanbeaver8542]

Hi Jordan, i am the sale manager for Metrel, if there is anything i can help with regrading the tester, please give me a call or email [e-mail] 07554669027

[@l4Green]

I wonder if the upgradeable software will take into account amendment 1 and the loss of PEN. I assume we will need to test this is compliant. Not sure how - the supply voltage is fixed and the meter measures this rather than alters it. Thoughts?

[@efixx]

Good point - we'll try to find out!

[@l4Green]

efixx we don’t test SPD’s, so maybe not. Given the recent amendment, I understand that I can use PME earthing ... if... the charger has the PEN protection - it seems odd that we can’t confirm it indeed does and it works. #trustbutverify

[@garethg2501]

For all you gamers. Is it just me or is that the battle victory tune for Final Fantasy 7, when the MFT does the RCD tests?

[@eddprice4571]

Was that a custom tone for resetting the test point ? I'm sure that's final fantasy 7 ???

[@tonycowles4150]

I thought you used a type A not b on them car charges? 👍

[@savvyspaces6509]

Did you have an RCD at source here too? Did you just link out the primary RCD?

[@daves4687]

Thanks guys exactly what I was looking for

[@andyhodchild8]

I thought the advantage of a type B was that it didn't need to trip with 6ma dc? I thought that the RDC-DD tripped at 6ma dc to protect a type A RCD from blinding? Are RDC-DD being fitted on lower cost chargers? Not installing, about to retire, just interested as have been doing PV. Also I came across two types of type b rccb's ev and si I guess something that will no doubt need checking.

[@efixx]

If you install a type B RCD you don't need the 6mA RDC-DD, however if there's an old RCD upstream it could be affected by the DC, I guess that's why most manufacturers put the protection in the charge point. Interestingly a lot of charge point manufacturers seem to be removing the RCD protection from inside their chargers now.

[@michaelw8004]

Great video .Any chance of doing a similar video using the Megger MFT1741+

[@TeamSimpsonRacing]

Great video as always. Just done my ev course and now doing my research of what meter to buy. Have you tried the megger 1741 plus with thier ev adaptor tester?

[@whatthedeuse]

You’ve got the wrong model test kit in the thumbnail pic for the video, it’s a Mi3155 not the Mi3152 😂

[@CS-yg7bp]

16:40 where can you find the values in the regs for these tests?

[@aktelectricalinstallations9186]

Thanks guys. Does the Installation Certificate require all these test results ?

[@benYMSB]

No not all. For example you only record 1X test not the others. Pretty clear cut when you fill the form out.

[@kennymacc]

Hi guys can the EV test plug be used with other MFT's? If so are you planning on doing a video? Thanks

[@efixx]

Good question, we think it should - ours is out on site atm. We I’ll try it with our Fluke MFT when it’s back next week and report back.

[@MrJkhs]

Can you test with a TIS MFT PRO and EV100 tester please. Or review.

[@deangriffiths9057]

Sounds like a load of hassle to me. I did the qualification, and used my own metrel easy test before i put the cover on. So to do the 6mA DC test i will have to spend another £1000+ on new equipment. It would be nice if you didn't have to set switch the cp knob back and forth between each test. Be nice if it was all done automatically!

[@londontrada]

145 ms trip at 1x? am I missing something?

[@asp217]

Testing the RDC-DD is not required by the Code of Practice

[@damianhdm]

Hi there, can you do earth electrode test with this tester ?

[@brendanbeaver486]

Hi Damien, yes earth electrode test can be done. Call us fir more info 01924245000

[@danielardelian2]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to test tethered chargers (i.e. the Type 2 cable permanently attached to the charger)?

[@efixx]

The tester plugs in to the end of the tethered lead.

[@danielardelian2]

@@efixx Thank you for the quick reply. Have you actually tested this? I'm not arguing with you, but I know that standard Type 2 cables are designed such that they cannot be stringed together as "extension leads" (I tried and, as expected, it doesn't work). So if the Metrel plug works plugged into a cable (as an extension lead), then it's probably specially designed for this, which is good.

[@asp217]

Your machine is showing 50v AC even thought the RCD has tripped!

[@dewithomas3334]

With ev charges being more common is there a law or legislation in place where these charging point have to be tested periodically in the future?

[@efixx]

Good question Dewi - we'll look in to this one. The big issue is tethered leads which tend to get thrown around. We've seen some public charge points in an awful mess.

[@Pushkar57827]

With so many EV testing equipments available in the market (be it charger adapter testing, battery testing), which are the most popular/most selling testing equipments globally? Also, according to you, who are the leading players in the global EV testing equipment market?

[@efixx]

We only use Metrel

[@Pushkar57827]

@@efixx Thanks for the quick reply, Really appreciate!!

[@zjzozn]

I see why EV chargers cost is so high. Can I use a 6V DC battery and my simple multi tester fluke? 😂 Great vlog. The Metrel looks like a 21st century fluke 👍😂

[@pselectrical4561]

Was EV charging points CPC connected a TNCS system.. Earth fault was really low for a TT?

[@efixx]

The charger is connected to TNCS - The Zappi charger has PEN fault monitoring.

[@pselectrical4561]

@@efixx thanks for the reply.. I've not installed a zappi.. I've always thought car chargers had to go on a TT.. unless you can walk on water.. joke.. manufactures instructions say it doesn't need to go on a TT then.. im just curious is all..

[@efixx]

TT was the norm until AMD 1 last week - now earth rods are frowned up. - check out these videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpnKaYKvfKeNaqM kzbin.info/www/bejne/najQmnqca9l2nqc

[@pselectrical4561]

@@efixx thanks for this. Will take a look.. have got my 18th booked.. Seems there's no rush if they're already changing everything.. 🙃 nothing like more grey areas.. I'm in cornwall so nearly everythings TT anyway! 🤣 thanks again..

[@pselectrical4561]

@@efixx OMG.. I give in.. just watched that.. Round and round we go.. Thanks for the videos.. I've subscribed.. I have the opinion that every day's a school day but to say TT's not as safe seems rubbish.. We quite regularly loose neutrals down here.. We had an overhead 3ph system loose neutral on our surf club on the beach.. Would have hate to see the transient voltages on any extraneous parts if it was PME. Instead we just had the fire alarm blow up and the lights! Thanks.

[@faisalhussain589]

Love the tester but unfortunately, its not affordable :(

[@supersparks9466]

Nice vid gaz

[@efixx]

Thanks 💕🦾💕

[@stevenbliss989]

Both smart and primitive at the same time. All the manual knob crap should be electronically controlled ...it's not! HOW PRIMITIVE! Why the hell is it done this way??????????????

[@efixx]

So it can work with different testers (non metrel) - metrel make adapters such as the active switch which work automatically with the test sequence. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJell6KkZcuardU

[@jasonelson7238]

Imagine these 2 jokers turning up at your house to do electrical work that would be a wind up😂😂

[@efixx]

Just let us know where we are needed!

[@jasonelson7238]

@@efixx I like your sense of humour 😂😂keep u the u tube channel its very interesting stuff👍👍

[@steveshippelectrical335]

Brilliant information! That metrel Mft looks amazing!