How to Train Your Dragon 3 Review: The Netflix Show is Better, Fight me.

[@CouncilofGeeks]

Having gone back to the first one in prep for this, the shedding scales wasn’t that sneaky. Hiccup tracked Toothless after cutting him loose by finding some shed scales.

[@adzinco6916]

and in the series, they make armour for there dragons out of screaming death scales to stop them getting hit by hunter arrows

[@PrimaryOctopus]

For sure, they weren't shoving it in your face but it was in no way sneaky.

[@tazzreviews1578]

You know what the sad thing is, Snotlout had some damn good character growth during Race to the Edge. He matured significantly by the end of the series. Seems rather wasted here.

[@Nqutical]

My thoughts exactly, he was so good in the series! He supported Hiccup in becoming chief, and he really worked hard to be worthy of bring Hiccups side man. I forgot that the movies really just reduce him to some mouth-breathing jock stereotype.

[@Rebelheart1985]

@@Nqutical I will admit everyone cringing at his “who died and made you chief” line and then he gets hit is pretty funny

[@victor2641]

I mean that what the series was for to get to see on how the characters are due to the runtime unlike in the movies which is limited and also snotlout seems to be in character when I saw the movie.

[@jneumy566]

that is the one con I have with this is that after all the stuff he and Hiccup in particular go through with each other and how their "friendship" develops in the show, I really don't feel like Snotlout would be hitting on Hiccup's mom. He might joke about it once or twice, but not actually try to get with her.

[@xvx_cooldude69_xvx43]

I liked the weird frog dragon things that kept multiplying they were just hillarious

[@angel_x5355]

@KittyLover AJ good to see another dragon know it all

[@pokemon200016]

They're a bad omen! We're cursed!

[@Alpha121198]

Hobgobblers, the Tribble -Pokémon- Dragon.

[@ivyinkwell1754]

Favourite quote of Gobber vs Hobgobblers -I kind of forget some of the specifics in this, so I'm pretty much bullcrapping Hiccup's lines. Please don't hate.- Hiccup: Someone is on the island, someone got past our defences, someone wants our dragons. Really badly. Gobber: YOU SEE, THIS IS ALL CAUSE OF THE HOBGOBBLERS!

[@lindenlynx]

@@ivyinkwell1754 tHeY'rE a bAd oMeN

[@ND-vz1is]

Snotloud hitting on Hiccups mom was REALLY unnecessary...

[@applebee28]

And unbelievably cringeworthy. And annoying. And stupid. Edit: THANK YOU for 100 👍s, it's more than I've ever had before! And in just one month?

[@R.M.MacFru]

And very disturbing.

[@purllow]

Preach

[@mafuyu8088]

Agreed.

[@Ziaotic]

at least it was true to his character

[@Jonathanest90s]

The Dragons films are easily DreamWorks’ best films in recent years and this decade as well.

[@xvx_cooldude69_xvx43]

Jonathan Pinis0N *AHEM* shrek Jk httyd is one of the best movie franchises of all time

[@larmurph318]

@@xvx_cooldude69_xvx43 In fairness, they did say DECADE so their refrain from discussing Shrek can be excused

[@GrizzleyBearington]

If not, over all.

[@adiveler]

@@GrizzleyBearington Just after The Prince of Egypt!

[@Jonathanest90s]

Sketchy Artist I like Shrek as well. But the series went downhill after Shrek 3.

[@LegoCat-tz5zo]

Star-Lord in Infinity War: Man, I messed up big time. Ruffnut: Hold my beer.

[@marvelousstudios1456]

Thor: no give me that.

[@mishkaparashar3170]

@@marvelousstudios1456 lmfaoooo

[@valkyriefeirro1744]

LegoCat1247 Gruncle Stan: *You dare challenge me*

[@drawnwithlove3499]

@@valkyriefeirro1744 don't ever disrespect Grunkle Stan like that again

[@geardog24]

If only Stoick could see his boy now...☹😭

[@TheodoreAWatts]

Well I can’t, because I’m a Stoick hater

[@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448]

Theodore A. Watts fuck you

[@louruitatsu7633]

Theadore a watts. You suck, 😠

[@mememaster5322]

Wait, wtf iggy aren't you supposed to be at the egypt in a mission to kill a road roller?

[@ellis5649]

I know 😭 Stoick is my favorite character other than Hiccup.

[@cyantera1751]

The ending for this movie made me feel... unsatisfied. I absolutely love the HTTYD franchise, it owns my heart, but I felt like Toothless felt a lot more.... animalistic in this movie. I get he’s an ACTUAL animal, but in the previous movies he had such humanoid emotions, and his loyalty to hiccup was far more complex than let’s say a dog loving its owner. The fact that toothless semi-willingly left hiccup to be safe and to be with the lightfury kind of bothered me. I wish there was more of a buildup of toothless leaving him. That he was getting torn up inside for a duration of the movie choosing hiccup or the lightfury. It would be okay if he left if that would’ve happened. Because of that, I didn’t feel as much of a bond in this film between hiccup and toothless as I did in the previous films, and that stuck out to me the entire time

[@drawnwithlove3499]

I agree, I feel like Toothless was a bit selfish but he kinda did find a dragon that was closest to his own species. But then again, bros before hoes Dreamworks! These two have been together for over 5 years! They built eachother up when they were down, and you're telling me he instantly abandoned Hiccup for some girl?

[@TheArtofDrawing-zk7of]

@@drawnwithlove3499 Nightfuries mate for life……that’s my answer right there (excuse my attitude. I just think that when you simply just watch all three movies, they all compliment each other and so on…so when I go to the comment and hear all the bad opinions. You kinda get the picture )

[@awesomeaminah3488]

I 1000% agree it felt so out of character for toothless especially after watching the show don't get me wrong it was bittersweet and all but i felt unsatisfied in the end and they're were things that i felt didn't make sense

[@chileanyways196]

This!!

[@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee]

@@TheArtofDrawing-zk7of uuuuntil you watch the series......which then further cements the relationship and makes the whole "nightfuries mate for life" kinda meaningless (Lightfury ain't even a female nightfury, it's a subspecies)

[@somethingaboutnothing6012]

They pulled a "Goodbye Butterfree" on us and I'm not amused.

[@angel_x5355]

Too soon man too soon

[@fanficdaddy]

True, except here, he actually visits them after the goodbye

[@boiwifeyasmr4U]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@sharpchivers6658]

That's what I said when the movie ended "It's the Butterfree episode all over again !" This episode is one of the only I had recorded at my grandma's and I watched it again and again, and cried again and again. And I cried again.

[@movedaccountsgoaway784]

SAMW

[@kennedylareign]

“There were dragons when I was a boy.“

[@applebee28]

MORE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS LINE. *MORE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS LINE.* For those of you who don't, it is the first and last line of the book series (and yes, they are every bit as different to the movies as Celly keeps saying). It has more of an impact every time it is said, and since you are reading the books seeing Hiccup as an old man, writing his memoirs so the dragons may not be forgotten, when it is repeated one final time as the last line of the last book, it is an emotional sucker-punch to almost rival COCO. And if you haven't read the books, you should definitely do that. They are universes away from the movies, you won't have spoiled anything for yourself, don't worry. I highly recommend the books. They are incredible.

[@kennedylareign]

Banoffee De Fairikaik yes omg. I read the books and that final line, “ in my beginning is my end, there were dragons when I was a boy,” breaks my heart every single time. To hear it on the big screen is a dream come true. It’s so iconic and important. Everything comes full circle. What an amazing piece of work

[@alexisb.6727]

sksk sksk I’m crying.

[@ashpher3760]

sksk sksk *sob sob*

[@paperchasindude6578]

I'm sad

[@alejanproh2961]

When I saw Rough-Nut being left behind I just bursted out laughing. It was also hilarious to see her get on the bad guy’s nerves.

[@victor2641]

Quick question did you feel that was in character I did.

[@jneumy566]

that is the absolute best scene in the entire franchise solely because of Grimmel's reaction to it all. Him trying to keep working but not being able to concentrate is one of the best gags, probably because it's so relatable. I also noticed that it calls back to the first movie when Hiccup tells the twins to make the Red Death mad, Ruff says "that's my specialty" and Tuff says "everyone knows I'm more irritating"

[@oliverdelica2289]

@@jneumy566 then it got screwed up because Ruffnut didn't think of the possibility of them following her

[@jneumy566]

@@oliverdelica2289 well, they were never the brightest, so I never faulted them for that

[@itsuki4449]

@@jneumy566 yeah but they’re not exactly stupid. The whole gag of their characters is that they’re weird and act goofy but their schemes always work and they’re reasonably intelligent. RTTE ruffnut wouldn’t have forgotten to check if she was being followed, she was actually decently smart

[@smoov22_sonic]

This is Berk. *No, this is Patrick!*

[@Spiny_Boi]

Ahem, it’s spelt “Berk”

[@BookshelfJunk]

Yes

[@PatrickCervantez]

No... _THIS_ is Patrick.

[@StarbourneOrin]

Berk backwards is kreb and that sounds like crab do you feel it mr crabs?

[@SpagEddie8113]

Wait, it is not Burk

[@KJ-mu7fy]

I wish Snotlout was as funny as in the show

[@brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985]

He was awesome in the show

[@kennedylareign]

I love this franchise to bits. It’s so sad to see it go. I weeped at the ending of this movie. I didn’t have too much of a problem with the riders in this film because I’m so used to them being stupid, and they kinda grew on me after being with them for almost a decade. It’s still so heartfelt and emotional and I’m so happy with the finished product. This is one of my favorite movies.

[@PIB2000]

Finally, someone else who doesn't completely hate the riders! Though, yeah, why Hiccup still rides with them is beyond me. Also, it is kind of weird that there is a subplot where one of the Riders tries to get into the pants of a woman 20 years his senior.

[@alexisb.6727]

sksk sksk I cried. Too much. I feel so sad to let the franchise go 😭 I HOPE THERE ARE SPIN OFFS. This franchise/series is my entire childhood. (Including the books)

[@bacon6178]

I loved penguins of Madagascar

[@kennedylareign]

Bacon ‘ that’s random but okay

[@mrtan5641]

Its always nice to see something end. Its sad but this is the perfect ending for the show.

[@EteamProductions]

The series did a better job at exploring the world, lore and characters than the movie. While watching HTTYD3, all I could think about was how I missed Dagur, Heather, Mala, Throk, Atali and even the dragons like Garffiljorg and Windshear...

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Same. The Fucked up thing is they kinda implied that was canon with Hiccup saying "We Faced people like him." and literally the only character he could have faced remotely like the Antagonist was either Viggo or the Fake Merchant, both from the TV Series.

[@SweetHeartsss]

Finally someone who agrees with me

[@isaacstevenson2960]

As much as I absolutely love HTTYD 3, after watching the series, I do agree that most of the things that the movies did were done better in the series. Especially Hiccup’s rivalry with Viggo

[@jneumy566]

did love that Viggo reference though

[@propersod2390]

Bruh the movie is around 90 minutes while the series is multiple seasons...

[@moondoria8401]

I screamed yes so many times when I got the notification.

[@applebee28]

Same here lol

[@godot8694]

The one thing that really bugged me is that they build up the hidden world as this amazing secret utopia where dragons and bergians can live together hidden from the rest of the world, and to find it one must travel to the end of the world and that's why it's a myth that no one has really seen but then hiccup and toothless find it after what is practically a 2-3 day trip

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

I can't believe a Dreamworks movie managed to make me cry! You know the part. When Hiccup and Toothless reunited and his kids touched the dragon the same way their father did in the first movie. They even played the same music. :'-)

[@Tobenatorr]

Did you not cry during the second movie?

[@Moonstar79]

And right after that the match-cuts and the credits where they recapped the first? Oh my gosh, the haters can suck it, this is amazing.

[@WakerOfTheSky]

Hello there

[@joeyjerry1586]

@@Tobenatorr, or during Prince of Egypt or Kung Fu Panda 2

[@JMB_Knight]

KENOBI?!?!

[@OverTheMoon891]

"The only thing sadder than this series ending, is Dreamworks' future without it." Oof. Someone call the cops we just witnessed a murder. XD

[@js66613]

I think we need to get DreamWorks to hospital stat, those are some serious burns right there.

[@pedroxruz6032]

God I love this film. The story, music, animation, acting, designs, romance, conflic, action, humor. Everything in this film was amazing.

[@captainarc5838]

1st movie: Dragons must be destroyed 2nd movie: Dragons can coexist peacefully with humans 3rd movie: We must segregate the Dragons and Humans Such progress has been made

[@Evancore-u6v]

Dreamworks: We aren't done yet! 4th Movie: Dragons can talk! XDD

[@WakerOfTheSky]

@@Evancore-u6v Oh no no no no no no no no no no no n- Secret life of dragons

[@Evancore-u6v]

@@WakerOfTheSky I like secret life of pets lol

[@DH-gq7bm]

@@Evancore-u6v in the og books they could. Of course this movie is nothing like the books but hiccup was a nerd that was fluent in dragonese and could talk with toothless and the other dragons.

[@jneumy566]

I don't really think it's that simple. Both sides are going to be in continuous danger from hunters coming after the dragons. They separate to protect each other because as long as they're together, people are going to keep going after the dragons and hunting and killing them and driving them to extinction, and they're also going to be attacking Berk and its people because of their relationship with the dragons. So for both to survive and thrive, they have to split.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

At least Ruffnut being an annoying idiot becomes a plot point. Edit: Haven't seen the series, so I didn't know they did it so many times before.

[@holad-jlsegovia-423]

she has done that many times but to outsmarts his enemys in the series One time to get a key and free the tghe rest Other to escape And one that is similar to the third movie when she tries to be annoying with Viggo and confuse him, but when that fails she's willing to die for his friends and protect them Ruffnut from the series is really different from the one from the movies, in the series she's portayed as the smart from the twins that really cares for Tuffnut As well as the other riders, Fishlegs is the most useful in dragon knowledge, Tuffnut is the one who brings chaos, outsmarts his enemy with traps & jokes and even battling against mayor enemys (things that even Hiccup never did), Snotlout is not that different from the one in the movie but you understand why he acts like that, he's only trying to be the best because his father tells him to be the number one and he has moments of redemption where he is really useful and is able to lead his team when Hiccup is not there The side characters from the series are really different than the ones from the third movie, in the series they work really well as a team and they know how to fight without dragons and in the third movie for some reason all that chemistry between them is gone just in the first scene showing them as a failure at missions of rescuing dragons :\

[@zoehatake1096]

@@holad-jlsegovia-423 i think rtte isn't canon. i've been hearing alot from the fandom that 'rtte is not canon'.

[@holad-jlsegovia-423]

@@zoehatake1096 yeah, it was supposed to not me be canon but recently Dean DeBlois kinda confirmed that the dragon series is canon of the original trilogy He said that in a tweet talking about the new series / reboot

[@R.M.MacFru]

@@holad-jlsegovia-423 You have many points and I agree with all of them. Another point about why Snotlout may have backslid, was in the series, they were far from Berk, so Snotlout didn't constantly have Spitelout pushing him to be better than Hiccup and show his worthiness to be chief. Being back on Berk, that would have started back up again, especially with Stoick having died in the previous movie. With the twins, yes I'm annoyed that Tuffnut seems to have chugged a good number of stupid pills, because yes, she's much smarter than she was in the movie. Unless we get a series showing why this changed, I'm calling lazy writing for that one.

[@holad-jlsegovia-423]

@@R.M.MacFru well, it's not lazy writting at all. The series and movies are almost two different things, they are developed by different people and departments. It's not the fault of Dean DeBlois and the other writters, the third's movie creation probably started around the second season of Race To The Edge or even before, so they were not aware about the things that happened in the series and only focused on giving an ending to the movies. It's also important to say that during that time Comcast bought DreamWorks and the creation of HTTYD 3 was weird, as Dean DeBlois said in interview. It was the series that was trying to be tied with the movies, the movies didn't really have interest in that

[@svetlinpaunov6410]

How did Fishlegs go from Heather to Ruffnut? Man it is so frustrating that they totally ignore the awesome characters in the series like Dagur and Mala and Heather and so on and so forth and just give us the five “main” characters (out of which only Hiccup and Astrid seem to be relevant). Otherwise the movie was a masterpiece, especially animation wise, I loved the hidden world, it was such a beautiful location, it is such a pity that we will most likely never see more of it. The musical scores for the movie were outstanding as always, and voice acting was great as well!

[@CrashJakFan1994]

*Ruffnut. Tuffnut is the male twin.

[@svetlinpaunov6410]

I always mix them up lol, there I fixed it!

[@andrewkful]

Um. Because as Cell said, the series exists in its own continuity and the films don't follow them?

[@svetlinpaunov6410]

andrewkful thanks for the reply lol, looks like I wasn’t paying too much attention to that part.

[@Ncholasbloom]

@@andrewkful well they kinda referenced viggo and the christmas special

[@thecinematicmind]

or as I love to call it *How To Successfully End Your Series*

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Jermemy Jahns said he felt "furfilled" after seeing this film. I don't think there is any better way to describe this trilogy's ending. :'-)

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

And now we just need to pray the Execs don't try to pull a TS4 on us. And no, I'm not holding out any hope for TS4. I don't care how good it is: It has already overstayed its welcome.

[@GingerWizzard1994]

@@barleysixseventwo6665 *thank you!*

[@thecinematicmind]

Barley Sixseventwo I strongly agree.

[@louruitatsu7633]

I'm open for a new one, just saying. Id love to See hiccups kids more, and see if the dragons ever do return. Just saying

[@ryatt9365]

Hiccup's armor and flaming sword made him look like a Skyrim character. They looked badass.

[@arellajardin8188]

I feel like the series did a little to mature Snotlout towards its end, but it hardly made up for how much airtime was wasted on him and the Twins just being unfunny filler. It was bad enough most of the time, but they not only got entire episodes devoted to them, but they would also interrupt serious or emotional scenes of better characters. I remember one episode where Astrid think Stormfly was poisoned and dying, and as she’s kneeling and crying over her Dragon, we have to put up with 1 whole minute of Ruffnut saying inane bull crap. Because heaven forbid we focus on something sad for a few minutes, the children might get bored.

[@matthewmazzatto8003]

@Fredrik Opoku I expected Hiccup to feed them to Toothless at some point. They are grating as all hell.

[@hekate5561]

To be honest, I loved the twins and Snotlout. They and the dragons carried the show. I like Astrid and Hiccup, but six seasons of them would get old fast. Just like the twins by themselves would get ridiculous fast. I liked the way all of the characters interacted and played off each other. Like the way Hiccup always was kind of considering what the twins were saying to filter out the useful parts. He knew that their madness did follow some weird logic and that their strange world view made room for ideas and solutions he just wouldn't consider. Especially when it came to opponents who were just better strategists, like Viggo.

[@certaingloom3797]

Grimmel was a failure of a villain. He was hyped up with killer dragons, but the movie never lets him kill anyone major. He could have killed off Snotlout to match with the books and since the character had nothing going for him in the movie or any of the Dragon riders non-Toothless dragons. I think what took away from the villains was the main separation the movie was building up to.

[@Moonstar79]

It didn't really hurt the movie, though. The story was about Hiccup trying to let go of Toothless, and when they killed Grimmel, they said goodbye. That was his purpose. And now I'm crying again..

[@landlighterfirestar5550]

Grimmel is also just a sign of the times I honestly think he was a good villain for this movie. He’s there and gets in the way Contrast to Drago who definitely is a fantastic villain and fit perfectly against Valka

[@drawnwithlove3499]

@@landlighterfirestar5550 I still think Drago is a good villain but I think his backstory could be improved upon

[@joeyjerry1586]

I agree If you replace Grimmel with Drago

[@Luna-ny9fq]

I would've loved to see some flashbacks where we get to see other night furies from Grimmel's perspective and then an indication of how he kills them. And he didn't even have to kill of a side character but I would've loved it if he at least seriously injured one of the dragons or side characters and they get a badass scar from it. Imagine this: Snotlaut disagrees with Hiccup, questioning his role as chief, he thinks they should just attack Grimmel but Hiccup wants to flee. Hiccup says something like:"We're not gonna fight this guy for now and that's final!" Snotlaut is angry and so he and Hookfang recklessly fly off on their own to take down Grimmel by themselves. At first they manage to get past the guards and everything goes better than the viewers expected but then he slips up and blows his element of surprise. Of course he stands no chance against Grimmel but we get a relatively short fighting scene in which he fights fiercely before he gets overpowered. Snotlaut realizes that he can't win this fight and so he sacrifices himself so that Hookfang can flee. We don't get to see what Grimmel ultimately does to him as the camera pans to Hookfang that is about to fly away, but mid flight he stops because he can hear Snotlaut yelping out in pain and we see the look on Hookfangs face as he watches it. He changes his mind about fleeing because he doesn't want to leave Snotlaut to die, he lights himself on fire, bursts into the fight, barely dodges an axe that leaves a not too deep cut on his neck and manages to grab Snotlaut, who is clearly injured and bleeding from his face, and flies away with him. The movie continues as usual until Hookfang lands at New Berk, the friend group is deeply shaken up by how Snotlaut is hurt but while they are busy with him and Hookfang, Grimmel captures Toothless and the light fury. Snotlaut, who now has a pretty big scar on his cheek and one on his arm, is told to stay at New Berk as he hasn't fully recovered yet, the rest of the gang goes to free their dragons (all except for Hookfang as he was too traumatized and tired follow Toothless's command to go back to Grimmel) We see that Snotlaut wants to help but is told no and we see how he is upset and worried that he can't help his friends. The fight scene continues as usual until one character from the friend group would totally get hit by a hammer but Snotlaut jumps in front of them and block the hit with a shield or his own weapon. Now Snotlaut joins the fight and that's all we see from him for now as the camera pans to the fight between Hiccup and Grimmel. (Alternatively Snotlaut could get killed in the final fight, but that would be a little too dark for a kids movie) This way we could see how ruthless Grimmel is and how he doesn't shy away from hurting anyone who gets in his way. Snotlaut would get a role that is less for stupid comic relief and he actually gets some character development. We also get to see how his recklessness has consequences and that the characters can definitely get hurt. Of course this wouldn't necessarily be enough to make Grimmel a good villain but it would be a start.

[@vegavirusofficial115]

This movie is the most beautiful animation ever. (My opinion)

[@ruwanalperera3504]

So right

[@vegavirusofficial115]

@@HelloHamburger hmm interesting

[@lopsidedhead]

Please consider: Into The Spiderverse

[@bennyboi5179]

Sigyn I second that especially good in 3D

[@vegavirusofficial115]

@@lopsidedhead I haven't watched it yeet, but I want too.

[@thehutch1674]

John Powell’s music in this trilogy is some of the best movie scoring I’ve ever heard in an animated movie. “As long as he’s safe” and “Once there were dragons” are beautiful pieces of music

[@BugsyFoga]

Nice to see yet another animated trilogy end great , along with Kung fu Panda , Madagascar , and Toy Story ( before 2019 anyway)

[@foxtoons1999]

There's gonna be a Madagascar 4. As to why, I don't know. I just hope it's not about "OMG I WANNA GO BACK TO THE ZOO EVEN THOUGH WE LITERALLY LEARNED IN THE LAST MOVIE THAT WE LIKED WORKING WITH THE CIRCUS"

[@RiderNexus]

Eh, KFP not so much

[@biffyguybiffy6292]

Kung fu panda 3 was just bad and Madagascar 2 was an abomination with 3 being only slightly better.

[@vex080]

@@foxtoons1999 Maybe it'll happen in Asia? Could be, the number of different animals is huge. Maybe they get captured there who knows

[@somehivemindthing2025]

kung fu panda has always planned to have 6 movies

[@pandishe]

i might be biased (since i read most of the books, and watched the netflix show from the second it came out) but i think that Race To The Edge is better than its movie counterparts. the characters get more attention (snotlout and the twins have a personality, _finally_ ) and, to put it simply, there’s just so much more attention to detail and the story itself. this makes sense, since movies tend to be much shorter that shows, but i still really appreciate how the creators took the time to give us information on characters we don’t see as much of, such as the twins, snotlout, and fishlegs. also, worldbuilding! i just love this show. this comment might not make any since, my apologies, but i just- RTTE is better compared to the movies, at least for me. the characters having developed personalities, the plot, and the worldbuilding just makes it better than all three movies in my eyes.

[@a_mooses_son7705]

I personally liked the villans, Vigo is a masterpiece, Ryker is too for his ending, Daggers redemption makes sense and Krogan has such a good backstory underneath his powerful facade to exert fear. The only one I disliked was Joyan (idk if I'm spelling the names right but whatever) his betrayal was cool and all and how it effected Berk but as soon as he became evil he outlook Krogans rank? I think that the movie should've had SOME reference to Vigo, as he is said to have been a powerful player in the Archipelago and yknow, he uh... failed which could add to some concerns of the dragon trappers.

[@kennedylareign]

*THE SOUNDTRACK IS AMAZING. I CRIED WHEN I HEARD TEST DRIVE PLAYING WHILE HICCUP AND ASTRID FLEE WITH THEIR KIDS. AND FORBIDDEN FRIENDSHIP WAS IN THERE TOO*

[@shmaqzi9893]

I got really sad seeing the characters up and leave Berk without so much as a goodbye to their (and many of our) childhood home. I would have loved to see a scene where everyone is packing up and hiccup goes and visits the old valley with the lake that he first met toothless in, perhaps he could have found the old sheild left lodged in the rock, or his dagger sitting in the lake from when he tossed it in to gain Toothlesses trust.

[@sunspotmill1291]

The only film trilogy by Dreamworks so far with three different movie distributors! HTTYD 1 under Paramount HTTYD 2 under Fox HTTYD: Hidden World under Universal

[@Evancore-u6v]

seriously though, HTTYD 2 is techicley a disney movie because of the fox deal.......so.........

[@swvwc8393]

@@Evancore-u6v Shh.... we don't want our dreams crushed again by Disney. They actually made a decent movie, the first in almost a decade.

[@mysteryperson1958]

Gigity I got the 69th like

[@wunderkitten]

Who else cried when Toothless left Hiccup? Or am I the only one emotionally attached to that dragon ;-;

[@Rebelheart1985]

Cried myself

[@bbgamez9293]

I'm gonna be real with you, I cried with sadness when Toothless left, cried with joy when Hiccup and Astrid got married, and cried with extreme joy when the two created a family and saw Toothless again with his own family.

[@anormalguy9320]

It's a satisfying conclusion, but it's probably the weakest of the Trilogy. Also, THE ENDING! The Ending is one of the best and most emotional endings in Animation along with Toy Story 3.

[@Nannowatts19482]

I cried

[@Avarn388]

A normal Guy I need to rewatch all of these movies back to back, but I can see where you are coming from. The story itself is very small-scaled and way less focused than the second movie. For me personally, the second Dragon's movie is a my personal favorite. It lacks in story, but the character department is excellent and I do like Drago. Even though, Viggo is the best antagonist in the franchise.

[@willametteanderson4325]

it maybe the weakest entry but that animation 😮

[@timothydarden6133]

Blame Chris Meledandri for how weak it is. He'll probably attempt to reboot the series a decade from now.

[@Tobenatorr]

@Jackson Hannan That I disagree on. Hiccup was in two different roles. In the second Hiccup didn't think he could take his fathers place as chief. In this one he is in that leadership role but he is still unsure how to lead effectively and the fact that he believes that without Toothless he is nothing also plays a key part in this movie.

[@sprklmuffin4526]

FINALLY! SOMEONE WHO AGREES “BRIGHT FURY” IS A BETTER NAME

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

I STILL THINK DAY FURY IS BETTER

[@angie1655]

Yes. Day fury is beautiful and it fits perfectly.@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735

[@thepacific2933]

Wild'o fury , i think she needs a name like toothsome (i dunno the opposite of the toothless (or i didnt remember idunno))

[@JackJames-exe]

Yes! Plus, hilariously, “Light fury” is the name a lot of fanfiction writers gave to a female version of a night fury wayyy back to the release of the first movie. Maybe it was on purpose? Maybe it was an accident? Either way, I died laughing (not being literal, don’t come attacking me)

[@DavidRay_40]

Light Fury makes far more sense.

[@grumpy989]

RIP Proper dreamworks, now get ready for them to become Illumination Lite

[@CamsEyeView]

you don't even know if that's going to happen. god the animation community here on YT is paranoid and pathetic

[@CamsEyeView]

@FearlessAstridHofferson I'm just saying they really haven't shown their plans for future projects. They have one film this year, and we know very little about it. I'm just saying it's too easy to just label DreamWorks as a new version of Illumination, because film and animation criticism is not just black and white.

[@Ekircher5]

@@CamsEyeView they both are now being overseen by the same person, the head of animation at Universal, I wouldn't expect any quality out of illumination or DreamWorks for a while after this movie, I'm glad this series ended well because I was scared the universal execs would fuck it up, but they didn't thankfully

[@CamsEyeView]

@@Ekircher5 of course, but everyone panics too easily. That's my point, and a lot of the comments here and in other videos, prove my point.

[@sunspotmill1291]

​@@CamsEyeView Boy, you can say *THAT* again! And it honestly does gets irritating pretty fast every time. 😒 I’m been trying to tell the so-called community that just because DreamWorks got purchased by Universal *DOESN’T* mean that Illumination is the new owner as well. I mean, if one really wants to go off by that kind of logic, it would also be like say that both Blue Sky and Nickelodeon used to own DreamWorks in the past due to their respective Fox and Paramount connection. Complete nonsense! If the last animated studios (not entirely sure about Nick though) managed to stay out of DreamWorks’ way for so long (i.e. little to no involvement at all), I’m pretty sure Illumination will be the same way for DW while under the same new distributor. DW has always been a versatile animation studio, as opposed to an in-house one, that's also now reunited with its SKG division (of live action films) as well. At this point, I feel that the worst of the cartoon community could easily rival that of Star Wars fans in terms of poor behavior.

[@fairy7216]

I don't know about you guys but I used to hate Ruff and Tuff, now I have a certain amount of respect towards them because of the great character development the series did and the way it touched on their sibling relationship so much more. But I still hate the way this movie portrayed them, especially Ruff! Like - in the series she was still an idiot but at least she had some backbone, at least she could get herself out to crazy situations and you could really see how she is the more practical of the twins and how without her tuff and the rest of the dragon riders really couldn't function. In the movies (especially the last two) she is just a stupid idiot, completely oblivios to the danger and everything going on, only focused on being "sexy" etc. Also, I liked how the series made us see how they all work as a friend group. Playful banter, sarcastic comments but ultimately always having each other's backs and that is why the series will be always better than the last two movies for me.

[@huzaifahahmed4303]

I agree completely.

[@pinkajou656]

I thought they had some great and hilarious moments in the series and it was disappointing to see them in this movie so reduced Also Chicken.

[@fairy7216]

@@pinkajou656 YES CHICKEN!

[@deerinheadlights7179]

if the series did not exist you would strongly question why Hiccup or anyone else have not thrown them away already as they seem just so annoying or useless. Before knowing about the series i just wondered why teh movies could not explore how it is fine leaving people behind and all and that people grow and teh childhood "friends" you know, may just grow into so different people over time through them... we would not lose much. From hating them i started to really like them because of the series to be honest.

[@jneumy566]

gosh, I love how chaotic they are, especially Tuff and that's mostly due to the shows. There are so many times in the shows when he's going off on some random tangent and the camera cuts away from him, but very faintly in the background, he says one more thing that's just as random. Makes watching with subtitles so much fun. It actually happens in the third movie. When they realize they left Ruff behind, he says "now I feel like how Ruffnut is every day...dumb." The camera cuts to a wide shot, but very faintly, if you listen, you can hear him say "I try not to look at her. It gives me acid reflux"

[@emmadehning9435]

FINALLY, someone thinks that the content isn’t as good we expected and that viggo IS BETTER THAN GRIMWALL.

[@charko4191]

Legit I watched the show long after watching the movie and becouse I thought it's just a money maker without actual significanse and boy was I wrong. When I actually tried watching it I was hooked imidietly. When Viggo appeard I was like WHOT this villain is so so much better. It was really unfortunate he died but it certainly was with style and redemption arc that started way before that. Twins were hilarious every charachter had do much development it show was actually really dark at times but not in blunt sort of way. The scene when Riders give a viking funeral to the people on the fishing boat was just wow I was really moved.

[@smallone2351]

@@charko4191 Agree, the scene where riders give vikings funeral to Macey was very touching.

[@Moonstar79]

In the first movie, Toothless drew a nothing drawing in a pile of alright-looking sand. Now, he's drawing decipherable furies in amazing, hyperealistic looking sand. Dreamworks getting at us from every angle.

[@thirdcoinedge]

Actually, if you look closely, the Toothless' drawing in the first movie is meant to be of Hiccup, as Hiccup was drawing Toothless. It was just very poorly done (lol).

[@IceFireofVoid]

Sad about the missed potential with the other riders. I thought they were all very characterized in the series. The twins were actually some of my favorite characters, and I admire what they had done with Snotlout's character, managing to take what should be someone that's just very one-dimensional and a total jerk and making him be actually likeable more often than not, or at the very least, you could understand him. Feels like ignoring character development from the series to do this to them. Also disappointed that...a certain....narrative doorway that had been opened for Snotlout in the animated series wasn't taken, and they made him flirt with freakin Hiccup's mom instead.

[@averageperson1045]

"WHO DIED AND MAKE YOU CHIEF?" -Snotlout 2019

[@thirdcoinedge]

[mass groaning] *bonk*

[@angie1655]

I was a bit disappointed, but I did have very high standards as the first movie is possibly my favorite animated movie ever. Curiously, I found Hiccup's friends' antics amusing (most of the time) and I think the humor was better handled in this movie than the second one. My main issue with this movie is the villain. I thought Drago was an ok villain, but he's great in comparison to Grimmel. At least he has a reason to be bitter towards dragons - they killed his family and took his arm. Grimmel is just... kinda evil? And there? And really stereotypical? Anyway. I couldn't help but interpret the "letting dragons go" thing as a metaphor for growing up and leaving your childhood behind, so that made me tear up. The ending was just beautiful.

[@heinshaaine8153]

I think they tried to imagine grimmel as a hickup who killed his nightfurry when he had the chance and got recognized by his village for that deed.

[@angie1655]

@@heinshaaine8153 Yeah, I can definitely see that. It helps a little bit, thanks.

[@kieranstark7213]

How to Train Your Dragon 2 is so awesome that it even manages to be the perfect film of one of the most epic animated triloies besides Toy Story 4. One of the reasons why is because Drago turned out to be one of the most intimidating and powerful DreamWorks Animation villains of all time. In fact, like a Wiki of DreamWorks Animation said, he is one of the most intense DreamWorks Animation villains up to the ranks of characters like Lord Shen, General Mandible and... Gallaxhar... Really?! What did GALLAXHAR do to make himself one of the most evil DreamWorks Animation characters?!?!?!?! Everyone sure does know Wikipedia doesn't get everything it spews right. Nor does it spew everything it says wrong.

[@SuperWorldJumper]

Then visiting Toothless afterwards means you can grow up and still have your childhood.

[@lindenlynx]

@@heinshaaine8153 Exactly. Then he went on to kill (almost) all of the Night Furies and became very powerful. In my opinion, Grimmel is the perfect foil to Hiccup.

[@Eminem_Thy_Goat]

I saw an ad for how to train your dragon 3 before the video started.

[@WiloPolis03]

I honestly don't understand how these keep being so consistently good

[@kevinnigins9488]

Wilo Polis because unlike the rest of dreamworks, there made by people who CARE.

[@isaacstevenson2960]

@@kevinnigins9488 what about Kung-Fu Panda

[@victor2641]

@@kevinnigins9488 ok

[@houseofmalice6952]

Lol, everyone loves the sand. Saberspark, and now Cellspex

[@DorsenFilm]

Katie Lewis who is «adakin»

[@WakerOfTheSky]

@@darkhorizonstudios3014 Anakin would be Angry

[@thirdcoinedge]

The technical power to pull that off is just incredible, even five years later (2019 was really the height of high-detail CGI animation in popular cinema in many respects).

[@YourHomieFrog]

I knew you cried at the end, don’t hide it. ;) also I feel like the final part made my parents look like 1 year olds that haven’t gotten food for 2 hours

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

When Hiccup's kids touched the dragon? Yeah, me too...

[@rosebud6116]

I cried twice, when the dragons left, and when toothless and Hiccup see each other again

[@jojicasta2714]

Rainbonica Stories Same

[@Bluigis]

Rainbonica Stories Me too, plus the end credits. That song hit me right in the feels

[@YourHomieFrog]

I went out of the theater sobbing like a baby not getting milk for 2 minutes

[@secondsun6963]

“The trailers give away a little too much?” Try the whole story. No joke from ONE trailer you can predict the ENTIRE plot

[@GurlPlaysMC]

Thats why i avoid trailers :,)..

[@silentrpgamer7212]

They also did this with HTTYD 2 when they revealed Valka as not only being alive but also a dragon tamer as well. Just wtf...

[@kattej837]

also, about snotlout and the twins. Race To The Edge does a perfectly good job of showing how Hiccup's relationships with them change, evolve and ACTUALLY improve. By the end of the series, Snotlout DOES have respect for Hiccup, and isn't just there for comedic relief (and when he is, its always funny). The movie decided to throw that out of the window. Also i found it absurd that 'the dragons HAD to leave'. Hiccup and Toothless literally spend hours on screen fighting against the status quo, and all of that is thrown away because 'humans cannot be trusted'. It was just a bad way to end things, and was just so inconsistent with the messaging of the prior films. Focusing on Hiccup becoming overworked due the dragons they continuously have to save, and maybe looking at Toothless wanting _some_ freedom. But the random need to just separate them to draw the series to a 'nice' end pissed me off so much.

[@Falcon-doing-doodles]

I think the think I liked least about httyd 3 was that the whole point of the movies and the shows was about fighting back against people that want to keep the world the way that it they like it for there own personal gain. Every villain, both movies and shows, wanted things to stay the same, with dragons being hunted as prey instead of equal partners, because it benefitted them in some way. But in the third movie they're just like "well, there's bad people, so we have to send the dragons away until they get better without anyone having a reason to make the world better for the dragons or humanity". When you consider what the the over-arching theme has been, the ending becomes less satisfying and doesn't make sense, character wise or logic wise. The ending message given by Hiccup should have been something along the lines of "There's always going to be bad people in the world, but we have to fight for the things and people we love or we end up losing what we had" Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to voice my thoughts. Great movie, 8/10, have a good day y'all

[@anfani6839]

Thats true. I dont get why Hiccup would suddenly give up and magically every single viking agreed for some reason, even someone like Fishlegs, who chained down his Meatlug in the Gift of the Nightfury special because he didnt ever want to be without her. I dont get why they established everything they did for two movies to basically wrap it up with, "we were wrong all along, we cant be equal partners" I mean wtf

[@duyducluu6821]

That ending seriously has A LOT of plot holes. Especially when it comes to dragon species

[@bastionunitb7388]

This film hurt me inside After years of watching these characters go through adventures and development Watching them have so say goodbye to their companion dragons was so tragic. Not only did they lose their best freinds but they also lost their way of life The only thing more sad than that is that there will never be another how to train your dragon movie or show. It's been an awesome run everyone but it looks like this is a franchise that is being put to rest

[@matthewlightwood5412]

See, the books and the movies had the same message. It's not "dragons are good" or "friendship and love wins" or some nonsense. In the show, in the movies, in the books, ONE thing is clear, and that is the simple fact that dragons always have been and always will be superior to humans in every way possible. Dragons are PEOPLE, they are not slaves, they are not animals any more than humans are, and humans are driven by their greed and savagery. In the books and the movies, the message is a plea for humankind to better themselves. We are not worthy yet of the beauty and majesty and spectacular minds of the dragons. The third movie ends with Hiccup speaking the first lines of the first book (there are twelve books), and really, all of Hiccup's "This is Berk" speeches are him telling the story, sharing the truth of the dragons. Hiccup (and his predecessors, Hiccup the First and Hiccup the second) and Valka were one of the very few humans who *understood* that dragons are better, that dragons are more beautiful and strong and wise than any human, and due to their lack of greed and bias, they were worthy of knowing the dragons, of loving them as equals. They were some of the few truly evolved humans. The point is, humans are greedy, selfish, and overly violent. "We been knew!" I hear you saying, but these stories are an attempt to inspire humans to *change their ways*, or to try, at least. Hiccup says it in the books and the movies, that the dragons are hiding. The dragons are hiding deep in the depths, waiting for humans to evolve into kinder beings. But it hasn't happened yet. Hiccup is trying to tell us something. Maybe there are dragons, somewhere in the bottom of the ocean, deep in Sleepcomas, a state in which a dragon can remain indefinitely. Humans have only explored 2% of it, after all. Maybe there aren't. Regardless of whether they are there or not, if they are, the question we are being asked is this: If they're down there, don't you want to be worthy of them? Don't you want to meet them, and know them, and love them? Don't you want humans to be kinder and less greedy? Grimmel, Viggo Grimborn, Drago Bludvist, Alvin the Treacherous (the one that was related to Hiccup, though very distantly). They all have something in common. They *knew* that dragons were more evolved, and it frightened them. They let their fear and their hate consume them until they blinded themselves, convincing themselves that dragons were nothing more than dumb beasts, to be enslaved and treated like animals. Despite the fact that dragons had language, had customs, had laws and gods of their own, these human monsters imagined them as thoughtless. The dragons *know* that humans are less evolved. Some are prideful on the subject, calling humans "mud crawlers" and "the flightless." Others fear the barbaric machines that humans create for the sole purpose of causing pain and death and destruction. Few dragons deign to few humans as equals, because they don't think that humans are capable of love. Attachment, yes, but not love. The dragons that do see humans as equal are rare. Toothless, Cloudjumper, Furious, Woden'sfang, they could see which humans could love. I do apologize for such a long comment but I just returned from seeing the last movie in theaters for my birthday and I have a lot of feelings about it, goodbye

[@CorrectFossa]

They did this amazing job of aging Hiccup and Astrid up movie by movie, that it’s really frustrating that they never really bothered aging up any of the side characters. They were fine in the first one, a little annoying in the second, and a fucking ball and chain holding this one down.

[@landlighterfirestar5550]

Snoutlout, Fishlegs, and Tuffnut are absolutely awful in The Hidden World. Snoutlout especially. And Snoutlout. I’m not including Ruffnut because she’s downright hilarious, but Snoutlout is awful, and did I mention Snoutlout is awful?

[@brittneyellis8424]

Great film, the scene with Hiccup falling was amazing. The call backs to the other films where good, but I agree, I wish they had done more with the side characters such as the other riders, Valka, and Eret. Also I know a lot of people like it, but I have mixed feelings on the ending. See, I agree that is well written and emotional, but it also felt out of place, like it was only that because that’s the ending of the book. Because to me it seemed like the series, especially with the tv show, as building to dragon and humans working together in peace, even with Grimmel and the other villains implying that such an ideaology was spreading, and that peace while not easy, was possible. Except then nope! The dragons have to leave now, possibly forever! I’m all for them, especially toothless, having their freedom to come and go as they please, but it felt more like toothless just abandoned his friend now the the had a love interest. The reunion was cute, but I honestly kept expecting toothless to either refuse to leave or return during the wedding, which to me, seemed more in character and made more sense for the themes of the movies! It’s especially jarring to me because we know the hidden world isn’t that far from New Berk if they can fly there in less than a day and take a rather dinky boat out to it. And yet toothless didn’t visit once in ten years? But yeah that’s my two cents, I liked the movie a lot and the writing is good, but the ending has me conflicted bc it is Well Written but it feels like it’s in the wrong movie!

[@twlightnightfall1315]

100% agree with this. This is pretty much exactly how I feel about this movie. The story fell flat for me.

[@awesomeaminah3488]

Omg that's exactly how i feel but i thought i was the only one like you completely put what i am thinking to words i might cry

[@chileanyways196]

This is exactly how I feel

[@jneumy566]

I will say, Hiccup falling genuinely scared me because I went into this thinking "this is the end, the conclusion to everything. That means everyone's plot armor is completely gone. Anything could happen to anyone". And I didn't have that thought because I thought something might happen to someone. I just realized that plot armor means nothing in final installments. And then of course, by chance, that line of thinking was almost proven true.

[@Snailirific]

I loved Ruffnut. She used her super annoying personality to "escape" from the bad guy and it was just her best performance yet. The others on the other hand was really meh. Didn't like the gag with Fishleg's baby either.

[@andrewkful]

Kristin Wiig is amazing.

[@Nanobot2821]

The baby gronkle is called fishmeat

[@Gooberwares]

Regine Gamlem But her brother and snoutlout were just inexcusable

[@Snailirific]

@@Gooberwares Yeah they were horrible.

[@Gooberwares]

Regine Gamlem I mean their adults they can still mess around but they should at least mature a little more like maybe make snoutlout trying to be hiccup’s new gobber or something

[@lupiroo1926]

I also had a problem with how quickly Toothless was ready to leave at first for the Light Fury. He just looked back and left. They made him so humanized in the second movie and Toothless became alpha to protect Hiccup. But that's just me. I'm glad Toothless gave Hiccup a proper goodbye at the end.

[@thedarkgunslinger2869]

Natural urges beats humanity

[@TheAbsol7448]

@@thedarkgunslinger2869 Toothless regularly defied nature in the first two movies, though. All for his best friend.

[@texasroze2371]

@@TheAbsol7448 and then he left his friend for a girl he only known for like a couple of days in the third film

[@bengilhooly3616]

@@texasroze2371 for the last time, he left because dragons wouldn’t be safe. What is it with people throwing out the excuse that he left because of a girl?

[@victor2641]

@@bengilhooly3616 your going to have to get use to it for people leaving out the context.

[@dinoman514]

The only thing I didn't like about this movie was the ending. the main goal of the group is "Lets stop dragons from being hunted to extinction" "Hey we found this hidden world place so lest shove all of our dragons there and let all the other dragons go extinct" just thinking that it's a terrible idea, dragons probably naturally migrated out of there for biodiversity which gives us all the different types we see throughout the films/shows, so forcing them back in might cause more problems not less. then there are surely types that cant enter there for either being way too specialized for their environment or needing very specific foods.

[@thirdcoinedge]

In the movie's defense, dragons never completely seemed like an aspect of the natural world. Nature did not evolve around the existence of dragons, dragons were merely introduced to it, so their return to the Hidden World isn't all that unhealthy, environmentally speaking, though you do raise a point that not every type of dragon may be successfully reintroduced to the Hidden World (my headcanon is that aquatic dragons were just mistaken for whales for the next several centuries). However, the sheer diversity of dragon species, many of whom we've seen before in in both the movies and the series, present in the Hidden World implies that it wouldn't be as much of a problem as it seems at first glance (it's already got varied environments and is capable of supporting a great density of individual dragons). It's not presented as a wholly happy ending, either - the dragons leaving is sad, it's not meant to be seen as a victory, but rather a necessary sacrifice for the good of their future survival. They probably did naturally migrate out into the world, but now they must return to it for the time being, until humans as a whole demonstrate that they are capable of respecting and forging bonds with dragons as equals, like with Hiccup. After all, who do you think Hiccup has been narrating to this whole trilogy? It's a return to the more thematic and personal vibes of the first film, rather than the groundedness of the second, with emphasis being placed on dragons as a metaphor than as strict lore.

[@HarryThomasPictures]

Awesome review this is my favourite in the HTTYD Trilogy it was a perfect conclusion. Would you agree The Hidden World is better than Toy Story 3?

[@juliathedarkmatter5188]

It's WAY better than Toy Story 3

[@larmurph318]

I love both equally and I bawled like a baby in both, why would I compare them?

[@julietteelton8406]

Personally it did everything I hoped it would (down to the very very end with the babies) may not be a perfect movie but it's personally perfect!

[@Laki2006]

I nearly cry at the thought of this movie, never really cared for Toy Story 3. This destroys Toy Story 3

[@mattm2451]

I like toy story three more, I honestly didn’t like the end of this movie.

[@rosemenon]

The ending absolutely WRECKED me emotionally.

[@Skipsjack]

Honestly I think one of the issues with the other dragon riders was that for a movie, there were too many to keep track of and give them their own things. Books and other films typically stick with a main three because those characters are easy to keep track off and build personalities and arcs with. Like Spider-Verse. While they had more than three Spider-people, the main focus was Miles, Gwen and Peter. And they each had their own moments beautifully (as did the other three of course). Having Hiccup and Toothless to focus on as well as giving Astrid some of her own things to make her important already filled the Main Three role. Now of course they could’ve had other dragon riders and made them work, but they wanted the other three to be too important and have nothing done with them. Maybe just stick with two characters who have personalities like Fishlegs and a mix of the twins and Snotlout. Or just don’t make them seem so important or better yet, not at all. This is advise for your own works. If you give a character a line, or a name, they have to be important. Unless it’s just for a side gag that appears for a few seconds and is never brought up again. Make the name and line worth it. Don’t waste it. There’s my tea 🍵

[@samluttrell6961]

Something i have to say is that is even more impressive than the first film is that there's actually an animated series thats not dissapointing. I MEAN SERIOUSLY i think this might be the best animated movie franchise ever. The fact that even to the end the third and second movie could not only compete with but probably beat out some of the movies today is stunning in my opinion. love the dragons series so much

[@1lobster]

Dragons also shed their scales in my fantasy universe. The northern elves use them to make dragon steel. As strong and light as titanium, and as flexible as... Steel. So it's quite handy for making giant swords that would be unusable if they were made from any thing else.

[@julietteelton8406]

Toothless sheds scales in the first movie too when he finds him in the cove Hiccup picks up scales Toothless shed XD

[@1lobster]

@@julietteelton8406, so it's a call back! Nice.

[@ivyinkwell1754]

Juliette Elton I can add some more callback! Like all dragons, the Snaptrapper sheds it's scales, and it's claws, but they all grow back. - Book of Dragons, 2009

[@jneumy566]

I honestly don't take the title as an insult to the movie because the Netflix show is absolute fire. And I am very proud to be as much an informational nerd of this franchise as I am Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. I have always loved how seamless the connection between the shows and movies is in terms of how they feel. The characters, the way they interact with each other, the humor, the story, the action, it all feels exactly the same and that just adds to the feeling that this is all one interconnected story, especially a coming-of-age story for Hiccup as even the shows put him in a beginner leadership role, then upping it a bit by putting him in a war with dragon hunters. And I absolutely love the Hiccup/Viggo rivalry. It is done so well, and I absolutely love the way Viggo is able to get under Hiccup's skin, in no small part due to the actors. I also find it funny how the two actors had already worked on a project together as protagonist and villain in The Sorcerer's Apprentice.

[@ribottostudio]

How to Train Your Dragon and Kung Fu Panda are STUNNING trilogies. Absolutely stunning. They're one of the few trilogies out there where ALL the films are great. Because Iron Man 1 and 3 are really great, but we don't talk about the second. For Dark Knight, one and two are really great, but the third has a lot of plot issues. And Toy Story was really great, but now it's not a trilogy. I think Captain America might also be up there where all the films in the trilogy are great as well. Along with the OG Star Wars. But these films are special because they had a lot going against them being animated, from a company that was a direct rival to Disney, and they had to show people that animation can be for everyone, where most see animations as just for kids. But HTTYD and KFP really pulled it off in a lovely way. They're honestly some of my favorite trilogies out there.

[@matthewmazzatto8003]

Dragon and Panda are easily in the Top 5 trilogies of all time, possibly at 2 and 3. The best trilogy is unquestionable though and I'm stunned you didn't mention The Lord of the Rings.

[@zeratul____1228]

Goes to show that your name doesn't matter huh? How to train your dragon and Kung Fu Panda sound very silly when said out loud yet they are some of the best movies ever made.

[@zachariahmarkusson7479]

The prequels were actually great if you think about it, as they pioneered the way for CGI there fight scenes were amazing and they had Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan they fixed many of the plot holes and before you say the the politics were boring let me tell you why they weren’t bad. They showed the breakdown of a fully functioning government with many different ideologies breaking down into the empire before it finally collapses after hundreds of carefully made moves by Darth Sidious. I will admit though that the bad scripts and just some boring stuff held it back a lot.

[@Evancore-u6v]

what about Screak. Screak has 3 Amazing Films, The first One, Forever After and ESPECIALLY the 2ed One (even if you don't count Shrek the third, which i actually really liked!) As aways ii respect your opinion, i just wanted to point out another great franchise :D (when You put all the Memes aside)

[@swvwc8393]

Honestly, I thought Kung Fu Panda 3 was a real bore. It had the potential, but the writers tried adding in a hundred times more *cough cough* "Humor" then was needed, which did no wonders for the movie. Too many Gay jokes, too many Pandas are Fat jokes, too many jokes period. It lacked the emotion the first and second had.

[@samboi123]

The Monster Hunter movie had no excuse. Snotlout is *literally* wearing Rathalos Armor in this movie.

[@SuperWorldJumper]

FINALLY!!! A reviewer that has seen the TV series and acknowledges its existence in reviewing the final film which acts as the final chapter to this entire world that both the movies and series have built. Also I’m glad I’m not alone in acknowledging just how much better the series are than the films in certain aspects. Vigo and Dagger are miles above the villains from the movies, but that, like with all things, can be attributed to the fact that they just had more time. Like you I was slightly disappointed that they didn’t have more references to the series, and in fact the ending to the final movie kind of leaves more questions than answers when you take into account just how large the world is that they built in the series. *Spoiler Alert:* How could all the dragons be gone?!? There were islands full of them!!! But I digress. The franchise had to have an ending and this was a good one. I’m so glad we got a good one. As far as the future goes, I eagerly await to see what the director, Dean DeBlois, has next in store. After basically creating both “Lilo and Stitch” and “How to Train Your Dragon”, both stellar childhood icons, I hope that he’s not retiring anytime soon.

[@andrewkful]

As Cell said, the series exists in its own continuity and the films don't follow them?

[@Ekircher5]

There were a couple very subtle references, such as Astrid telling hiccup he tried giving toothless a tail he could use on his own before (gift of the night fury) and Hiccup telling Erit that they have dealt with Grimmel's kind before ( referencing Vigo) but I agree there could have been more

[@polterghast12]

Haha. The funny thing is: If toothless also called back dragons from the other islands. 1st: no Razorwhips or other types dragons from the series were seen in the flock 2nd: if they did sprinkle the dragons from the series in, that basically means they slaughtered and burnt the defenders of the wing alive because of the dragons needing to go away for some reason. If they left just the eruptadon on the island, that would mean that the monolog at the end makes no sense since there would still be a dragon on another island. It just feels like the series and the movies trying to be connected is one big mistake xD So either the end monolog makes no sense, or Hiccup and Toothless have killed hundreds of dragon lovers.

[@Jugem16]

The series has no bearing on the films and was made by different people. That's why it wasn't acknowledged and nobody ever had any intention of acknowledging it at any point in D3's production. Disagree about the series being better. The only great things about the show are its sense of humour and the (very) few tender moments between characters. Generally, however, it's unfocused, butchers characters, introduces ideas completely at odds with the world, has a meaningless, formless story, and by gods the dragons aren't even characters. The film villains are thematic and encapsulate an idea, in contrast to what you might be looking for; this has nothing to do with "time", it's called vision and economical storytelling. The show had all the time in the world to craft a competent story, but instead messed around with filler and misunderstood what made the films special.

[@SuperWorldJumper]

Jugem16 Agreed to disagree. I like them all.

[@starlosa]

Honestly all of the dragon riders should’ve been treated like actual characters rather than bullshit comedy

[@dustindustymatthew1961]

I wonder if they had a deleted scene where Hiccup is thinking of where to go and he considered the old allies from the show, but didn't choose them because he either 1) Didn't want to have them be harmed in the process also or 2) Worried that Grimmel would easily find them (or he had a suspicion that Hiccup might go there so he sent blockades to prevent that) I probably repeated myself but you get my point

[@andrewkful]

Um. Because as Cell said, the series exists in its own continuity and the films don't follow them?

[@R.M.MacFru]

@@andrewkful ...which is strange, because they originally said the series were to fill in the gaps between the movies. 🤨

[@thirdcoinedge]

@@R.M.MacFruWell, the second movie did have Hiccup describe Berk as "the best-kept secret [...]", implying that they lived fairly isolated from anyone else in having consistent interactions with dragons (the first movies also implies that from the opening narration with "where others have mosquitos or rats, we have dragons"), so them interacting with other villages in the series and teaching them about human-dragon connections does contradict the movies somewhat, where it's just implied that Hiccup has only been exploring the vast uninhabited archipelagos of the surrounding ocean and the dragons within, which is why Drago and his army appearing as humans that also interact with dragons, but in a more exploitative manner, is so shocking. There's a wider world out there, with others that are willing to weaponize dragons for their own ends, which they take action against by the beginning of the third movie in raiding warlord convoys, compared to in the series, where that's just an every-episode occurrence.

[@lief_branch5328]

These films are great, I love them to bits and I grew up with them, but The Hidden World is probably the most flawed film so far. I feel like there were a few scenes that could have been handled better or completely scrapped. (An example is the Ruffnut and Grimmel scene. I feel like it went on for too long and instead of being funny, it started to become annoying to the audience.) A big issue I have is with the newer dragon models, specifically with Toothless. In the first movie, he was very lizard-like, which I liked a lot because it fits him more for a dragon, but in the second movie they changed it a bit, and I didn't mind it but in the third film they completely changed him from the first model. It probably doesn't seem like a big deal to most people since he becomes "cuter", but he's a dragon and I think he should look more like a reptile. Another problem is with Grimmel. I think he could have played a bigger part other than "I killed all the night furies, i'm going to kill yours now" and then gets defeated in like, 2 days when Viggo took months to defeat in Race to the Edge. I don't fully consider the series to be canon, but I do think it had better villains than The Hidden World. I wish they could have done better with the advertising of the third movie because I feel like they advertised it too much which caused a lot of the movie to be predictable because they showed too much in the trailers. I do really agree that all three of the movies are very beautiful though with amazing animation. The detail they put into the scenery is really incredible and the music was heartbreaking and I still haven't brought myself to listen to the soundtrack since I watched the movie. I still think it was a great movie though, definitely one to remember. It's the end of an amazing series that means so much to me and many other fans.

[@_Dr_Fate]

Honestly RTTE is underrated, it has nice character development and it has logic, of course hiccup won’t trust dagur, he almost killed him, if we put that into today hiccup would just automatically trust dagur because why not

[@isaacstevenson2960]

While Riders/Defenders Of Berk did a great job getting the ball rolling, Race To The Edge basically fired on all fronts and has storytelling, villains, word building, characters, and character development that rivals even Avatar.

[@luisjauregui2197]

Can we acknoledge how Grimmel is called "the biggest treath they ever faced" when they meet him when the last guy had a giant dragon that controlled basically any other dragon. I mean they only knew that he had a single dragon and apparently some level of intelligence and that makes him THAT dangerous? Just wanted to pointed out.

[@duyducluu6821]

Because Grimmel is just Hiccup himself, if he killed Toothless. Both use brains over brawl. But the overall best villain for me is the one and only, Viggo Grimborn

[@victor2641]

A villain that is intelligent is quite dangerous then a villain that relise on power.

[@be_more_cool1181]

I love your chanel!! Nice job geting to 100k!

[@TheAbsol7448]

Hiccup and Toothless' friendship in the first two movies was absolutely magical. It's such a shame that they just threw it all away in the last movie because they wanted to shoehorn in the ending from the books, even though it doesn't make any thematical sense here.

[@mylittlebrony2130]

The author had a condition that it had in that way which is just so annoying

[@phantomkitten73]

1:37 Don't think I didn't see that mouse/cursor.

[@luvneojen]

ok just watched the hidden world a few days ago after putting it off for years. i really enjoyed the first two movies so i rewatched them and then decided to finally watch the third one... yeah that ending was so upsetting to me. hiccup and toothless's dynamic is my favorite part of the entire franchise and so to see them go their separate ways hurt. it also just doesn't make much narrative sense imo?? i mean the village in its entirety went through some severe growth to accepting dragons as friends and not enemies. i just can't buy it that after all those years of living integrated and treating the dragons as members of their community that they would just part ways so quickly. they did try to say that it wouldn't be safe, but again i feel like the decision really went against all the growth that was made and the characters values. that's not to say it was a horrible movie, it just made me sad to see that conclusion. i'll def check out the series as i haven't seen that yet :)

[@mylittlebrony2130]

Yeah and hiccup pretty much saying that people can't change after all it's just a slap in the face to literally everyone including his to be wife

[@marcusossowicki2729]

I felt that considering the second movie went far to show us how the villain was capable of harming us via stoicks death, there really was no permanent loss caused by the villain, it was just some games for fun. Also, not a single character throughout the whole movie even got visably damaged, let alone die, despite the constant fighting. This at least for me, took away a lot of suspense from me when I watched it.

[@isauldron4337]

Problem about the books was One set up its ending Film only pulled this ending so they wouldn't have to make.a sequel And even then the endings of the books is different And the movies borrow stuff from the books a lot Like alvin the treacherous being split in drago and grimmel The king of dragons (furious in the books)

[@irrelevantperson785]

I was honestly a bit.. disappointed with this conclusion. I don't know why though and that's why it's so frustrating. I enjoyed the movie, it was a good movie. But it left me feeling like it was lacking something that I just can't quite put my finger on. The first and second movies stuck with me and I love them both to this day but this one is easily the weakest of them all, in my opinion.

[@smile4me268]

I think it was symply too short

[@crepaulcog5849]

It was short, the villain was... meh, but what hit me the most has to be the unsatisfying ending which doesn't make any sense in my opinion. I mean the moral of the story goes completely against what is said in the first movie. There are still bad guys trying to kill dragons, so dragons must hide until humans are more ready to accept them. What ? How will hiding your identity and becoming unknown creatures will help in any way ? The first movie explains that humans and dragons can live together in peace, but that it takes some time to earn each other's trust. If the dragons keep hiding for centuries and don't show any sign of existence, how exactly do they intend to earn the world's trust ?

[@crepaulcog5849]

@Fredrik Opoku Yes, but that's just a short term solution. They said in the conclusion dragons would show themselves again when humans will be ready to accept them. Except I don't see that happening.

[@realshipn5546]

Irrelevant Person I loved it I just wanted some people in the series to be in the movie since it set up the 2nd movie but overall this movie was pretty good with amazing animation

[@Tobenatorr]

That's what I think too. It honestly felt like they worked from the ending to the beginning. There really wasn't too much of a story in this one compared to the other 2 and didn't feel as tight or engaging as the others. Wile Toothless and the Lightfury had cute moments, I felt like it focused on those scenes a bit to long. Plus I felt like there wasn't much character progression in this one compared to the other 2 and the side characters do nothing it felt like. Even Astrid's role felt weaker in this one.

[@SourRobo8364]

"There were dragons, when I was a boy."

[@eeliejun]

Tbh, I really liked the film but the main villain was just eh... Like I did not fear him or anything. First movie the dragon was scary and could mess them up. Drago was scary and had a fleet and an army to back him up and Grimmle was just there like Vigo was a lot better but Grimmle was lackluster when they fought at the end I was like was this it? That was easy... I expected a bit more from him. See this movie is not perfect but it is a good end but all the points in this video were correct and would have loved more Hicstrid but I am a sucker for it so...

[@lindenlynx]

I can see where you're coming from. Grimmel is much less of a spectacle than the Red Death or Drago, but I think he is more meant to be a foil character for Hiccup. He, like Hiccup, found a Night Fury as a child, but unlike Hiccup, killed it. I think Grimmel represents what Hiccup could have become had he killed Toothless in the first movie. All in all, I get your point, but I personally really enjoyed Grimmel's contrast to Hiccup. :)

[@eeliejun]

@@lindenlynx You are right that Grimmel is a foil character of Hiccup. But feel that was lacking too because he uses dragons and when he gets called out on it his answer is lacking it feels like a child saying no you. I think for me again Vigo feels a lot more a foil character of Hiccup. Grimmels feels like he was used just set it all in motion. In my opinion, not much would have been lost without him. It still could have been about them splitting up because Hiccup needs to focus more on leading his tribe and he is growing up and need to go to meetings and talk to other chiefs and it is getting harder and harder to spend with Toothless and then Toothless meets the Lighfury and go from there. In the end, Grimmle feels lacking and a bit of a hypocrite maybe it would have been better for me if we saw more similarities between them then we did.

[@lindenlynx]

@@eeliejun I agree, especially on your point about him using dragons. That felt quite odd to me. I think they kind of had to have him use dragons so that the Berkians and Hiccup wouldn't completely overpower him, and I don't think that worked in their favor.

[@andrewkful]

The second movie's villain was a ton more threatening, monstrous, and dangerous, and I seem to recall that movie being the darkest yet, SO I think they tried to dial down the peril of The Hidden World this time by giving this villain a more comedic nature.

[@eeliejun]

@@lindenlynx I like the idea about him using poison from dragons. But keeping them as pets was a bit of a strange thing to do if you love the hunt so much.

[@a_mooses_son7705]

They couldve and SHOULDVE done something with Drako or his sucessor, man had a lot of infulence and gets like 1 line in the 3rd movie, like instead of the 70 yr old Grimmer who looks like a friendly old dude. Grimmer was destined to not fill Dragos shoes. Also side note I think the fact that Vigo in the end had a "Sort of" enemy of the enemy is my friend thing twice and played it so well 2 times with the first never giving up on the dragon eye and the second literally taking himself out to exact revenge was so well executed and in my opinion better than Grimmer, even with Rtte having the budget and stuff that it did (not that im hating on Rtte, its my 3rd favorite thing in the httyd franchise.)

[@slashermaster28]

9:20- I wouldn't be too concerned with Dreamworks' future as it was revealed somewhere last year that they hired Guillermo Del Toro to direct a good number of upcoming films. Can't quite remember when his first Dreamworks film is said to be released, but it's definitely promising that they have him on board.

[@Ushio01]

Wasn't that before Universal bought them and put them under the control of Illumination?

[@julianWmontgomery]

The Hidden World was a fantastic movie. Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk

[@tarawestie4595]

@Julian Montgomery That was quite the short TEDtalk.

[@julianWmontgomery]

TaraIsAnExtraTerrestrial yes. Yes it was 😂

[@julianWmontgomery]

@Yandel Mcmillan out of five or out of 10?

[@Astrolionking]

Honestly, if Grimmel and Drago swapped, HTTYD3 would’ve been way better. Drago was stronger and more manipulative. He was fucking horrifying and HTTYD3 is telling me I have to be afraid of this twink? (I’m gay it’s not an insult)

[@mollyfowles7863]

The movie made me hate toothless because he JUST met the ugly lightfury and he’s so obsessed with her he leaves hiccup with literally no affection. Like, wut. And why did they make the light fury so much like a girl if she’s a wild animal. She should’ve been so much tougher if she lived in the wild

[@anfani6839]

I agree. I am disgusted by her design. Dragons like Meatlug or Stormfly absolutely dont look like girls and thats how its supposed to be - besides if the light fury got abused by humans why isnt there even a single scratch on her?

[@samluttrell6961]

This...... i dont even......... this review is almost WORD FOR WORD exactly ho i would review it. amazing. i do think the main strength of this franchise was the animation, music, and characters more than the plot. but i think the music (mostly in the first two movies) are stellar as well as the animation and it is easy to get emotionally attached to the characters. love your channel and especially httyd edit: my characters i mean the main characters not including the other dragon riders i agree that those were lacking

[@lukecorwin4589]

One slight correction, the series has 118 episodes, not more than 150, unless there are more seasons I don't know about...

[@jeggsonvohees2201]

I just saw the film, and I have to say that underwhelming is a good way to describe it. Much of the film is flawed and nonsensical, to the point where events happen because they need to happen, rather than because of good writing. There's not much in the way of character growth, the bad guy is ultimately uninteresting, though he has a good introduction in the beginning. One of the worst flaws is that there's little to no tension. The film never makes you believe that the heroes could lose, or that there's any real danger to them. The baddies are incompetent to them the point them that you'll find yourself asking how they ever became a significant threat in the first place. The film is good looking, but nothing we haven't seen before. From the trailers I was really hoping DreamWorks had pulled out all the stops to give us something really fantastic and visually engaging foe the finale, but it's really just more of the same. Where they did get creative was with the designs of the Dragon armors, each uniquely tailored to a rider. Beyond that though, there's little else to grab the attention. Overall as much as I hate to say it, the movie is pretty mediocre, especially for the grand finale to a story that started off with so much potential. By all means see it if you want, but don't expect anything fantastic.

[@t65bx25]

Fun fact: The tail that Hiccup made for Toothless to fly on his own was first shown in a Christmas special called “Gift of the Night Fury”, which takes place during the very first winter right after the first movie.

[@ma569]

I loved this movie so much, this series was my childhood. This was the series that helped me try to do art and write about my character and her dragon. This movie wowed me and yes, I did cry at the end. But this series always boosted my imagination and now I am writing a story about my new character!

[@zadas1132]

I think the film would've been iconic if a few things were changed. 1. Development The film felt rushed thus making many of the audience feel like the movie is incomplete as seen in the comment section. Hiccup and Toothless' friendship had no *proper* build-up, no tension, and the decision felt just so wrong. The reason why I think the film is rushed, incomplete, etc, is because of the Light Fury. This concept was not only predictable, it was unoriginal as hell. You could've replaced her with a female Night Fury and the film would be a billion times better. Because of the Night Fury the relationships in this film would be at a higher stake, higher tension, and a hard decision. 2. Characterizations Some of the characters besides the dragons are so incomplete and rushed as well. Snoutlout hitting on Hiccup's mom just not only feels wrong it feels out of nowhere, disgusting, and innapropriate. Not only that, Snoutlout is a minor compared to Valka and in addition, she was already in a relationship with Stoick. So why are they basically dumping that and replacing it with someone else that's still young? What about one of the wing maidens? Why not he be with one of them instead of her? This feels out of character but also odd. Another character to point out is the most predictable and boring villain of the series, Grimmel. Who the hell is he? A Night Fury killer. That's it. All we know is that he kills Night Furies because he killed one where it slept and the town praised him for it so he decided to hunt every one of them down. How is that a character? How is he dangerous? He's only a Night Fury hunter and expert. Nothing else. Why did he kill the Night Fury? Was he bullied by other kids in his village? Was he seen as a failure by the whole town? Did he screw up something? What made him do some of these actions? How did he find the Deathgrippers? How did he train them? When did it take place? Where did it take place? These all go unanswered and we're left with a bland and boring antagonist. This isn't how you write antagonists.

[@mr.ghiblidude]

Yeah tbh I don't really understand why people always quickly saying Grimmel was the best villain in the trilogy like that dude just a random evil Hiccup who exists out of nowhere just there to had purpose for the plot I heard the initial plan of bringing Drago back in the third movie that could've been better for Drago's development which he's lacked in the previous movie than Grimmel

[@trashbomb]

The SAND tho Seriously it has to be the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen

[@thetads2623]

Not to anakin

[@trashbomb]

sanic hedgehog that was truly epic

[@TheApoke]

1:38 looks like someone forgot to move their mouse out of the way when recording their screen

[@Alice-FE]

DreamWorks' best franchise? I mean... I LOVE this trilogy, but... REALLY??? Shrek: *Good question*

[@mcwyman7928]

Well even though the first two Shreks are great, Shrek 3 is awful and Shrek 4 is mediocre. The Dragon movies are all at least decent. The first was amazing, the second was solid, and the third one was fine.

[@anfani6839]

Kung Fu Panda: "Excuse me?"

[@RealRaven6229]

The shot of hiccup taking his hand off toothless’ head when saying good bye was a reverse of the shot in the first movie

[@Eternal_Placidity]

It’s so sad that the greatest antagonist in the franchise isn’t even in the movies.

[@rclark8688]

I feel like this movie should have been about hiccup after he had become already father. That fhe series would have been about a boy learning to understand his father, a boy becoming a man after losing his father, and a man learning from the example of his father to become a better one. Then his conflict would be between choosing between wanting to keep his best friend in his life and caring for not only his village but also his family. And the his relationship with Astrid could have progressed more because in this movie it didn't feel like they progressed much from the previous movie to me.

[@somerandolad]

"Yay! Pretty flying scenes"

[@GrimSightings]

"Makes hello kitty look like five nights at freddys", I DIED.