How To Treat Bare Metal With Epoxy Primer

[@Kustompaint2026]

BADASS!!

[@kandyman5315]

👊👊

[@mikefourby6011]

keep up the good work ur one of the handful of guys on here that really know there stuff i only know because i have been in this industry since the mid 70's

[@JohnWD40TC02]

You are progressing well on the Cutlass Kandy Man the owner should be very happy with all the work you have put into it👏🙏👍John UK

[@josephbidon4333]

If US car makers paid half as much attention to this kind of detail work, they would have been the number 1 car makers in the world by now.

[@whiteviper1979]

Yea but they don't give a f#ck about quality nowadays on 97% of vechiles! The only thing they give a d@mn about is making lot's 💰🤑💰! and do it as cheap as possible using crappy AF parts!!! New vechiles SUCK!!!

[@johnf6267]

And each car would be $15k more.

[@compytv8636]

My 2016 f350 is rusting like it's 25 years old 😂😂

[@wanderingweederspapa7878]

Rust never sleeps...

[@joelhockett8137]

I used DP 40 in the 90s, and what a great product I've never tried the newer DP 50 -90 primers? But, I'm sure it's similar

[@TheKnceoincusa]

Need more update on this cutlass buddy! Great video

[@kandyman5315]

Coming soon 👍

[@PhillipHall01]

I enjoyed the video but a question; Why didn't you remove the top before going this far? If you had you could have also made sure there was no rust in the area where the rag top and metal meet. This would have been the time to have that done as well for a complete metal prep with the epoxy? I realize you have other videos on this car, and this is the first video I have watched on your channel. Perhaps you have addressed this area of concern on an earlier video? Thanks Phillip Hall

[@kandyman5315]

Yes has been addressed somethings get missed on camera thanks for watching

[@coastaboi747]

I'd recommend when stripping a car like that to bare metal, you use a metal conditioner. we use deoxitine 624, you scrub it on and wash off with hot water and blow dry it off, it will go a rainbow colour. once it's dry you don't need to prepsol or anything just mask up and epoxy over it. I also wouldn't recommend prepsol over bare metal I've had it flake and fry my primer before especially polyester primer if you had to clean the metal and didn't want to use deoxitine we use acetone or meths.

[@kandyman5315]

Thanks for the support

[@coastaboi747]

@@kandyman5315 no problem, just my 2cents, you guys doing a great job. keep it up 😀

[@kandyman5315]

We did wipe with alcohol prep after prepsol just forgot to mention

[@warrenlewis3977]

I would have Osphoed it then epoxy.

[@jraposo911]

The body panels look fairly straight! I hope my 71 will be like that 😊JR

[@HackMasterBlaster]

DP is some really good shit.

[@ChicagoRob2]

If I ever needed a car painted, it would have to be this guy. You know it’ll be done right.

[@edwardgibson19]

And it wont be cheap But worth the bucks

[@deanbrown7643]

Awesome rust on steel is like cancer in humans must be eradicated thanks for sharing 😊😊

[@paulcoote3094]

Prepsol doesn't remove non solvents such as sweat. Metho/water does. You should have metho water then prepsol in case there was body oils on it.

[@kandyman5315]

👍

[@abaidhussain3316]

Another great video mate ..can you show me how to walk the side off a car ..I’m to frightened aways wanted to shoot a full side but it’s daunting , thanks kandy man

[@kandyman5315]

👍

[@davidharrison8397]

Nice job....car's going to look great

[@V1CSTAA]

Awesome can’t wait to do a project like this one day

[@RS-gh2mf]

If you plan on using any DP Epoxy just as a sealer, you really need to reduce it down a lot.

[@kandyman5315]

@@RS-gh2mf 👍

[@Mike-01234]

I see your using the 3m Versaflow respirator those are nice no extra hoses laying on the ground.

[@outdoor_lifestyle_0149]

Coming along already! Do you only use wax and grease remover on the bare metal or do you also use an alcohol based cleaner?

[@kandyman5315]

@@outdoor_lifestyle_0149 both

[@charliepepper3601]

Great job so far

[@JuanjoseMiguel-z9f]

If you have big hits do you do the metal work first? Or do you prime and then do the body work , thats what doesn’t makes sense to me because to take out the big hits you need to go to bare metal again in order to pull the hits out

[@kandyman5315]

Appreciate it 👊

[@Supanova70]

What do you do with the bare metal spots after your filler work is done I have a issue right now before high build. Blend in some more epoxy? I am using 5310 dtm from TAMCO for HB primer after panel is straight. Just sucks i broke through in some areas.

[@kandyman5315]

Yes hit the spot

[@taoisttiger4702]

Im working with a 1972 ford truck its body is fairly straight but has a lot of surface and pitting. I know ill have to strip most of it to bare metal but im not sure about the pitting areas if its possible to get them to shiny? I have a 'rust killer epoxy primer' on the way but heard it cant be paired with phosphoric acid to neutralize. What would you do with heavier pitted stuff? Frame rails etc?

[@kandyman5315]

Sand blasting is a method that works great. Just be. Sure, not to warp the metal

[@nickbest573]

180grit sanded and then epoxyd is that correct

[@kandyman5315]

👍

[@bensonporter1384]

Do u apply the first coat of epoxy then wait 10 minutes and apply the second coat then wait 30 minutes and then apply the 2k primer over the epoxy primer????......i never used epoxy primer before lol😂

[@kandyman5315]

2 coats with 15 min flase

[@legalsan3913]

Did I miss it, how did you strip the paint off, mechanically or chemically? What would you recommend for a DIY?

[@kandyman5315]

Mechanical is what we did and my choice for DIY

[@legalsan3913]

@@kandyman5315 Thanks so much. Do you use silicon carbide stripping discs or good old sandpaper?

[@kandyman5315]

@legalsan3913 sandpaper

[@michaelbyrnes7944]

That’s the best epoxy on the market I always worry about flash rusting and yes never touch bare metal with bare hands

[@kr2513]

Cannot wait to find out the steps for going over epoxy. Kandyman what are your thoughts about etch primer? I think I remember you using it over aluminum but what about steel?

[@kandyman5315]

Etch primer is a good product but epoxy is better

[@jeremyr7147]

Etch is old school and not 2k.. etch will not hold out rust alone like epoxy

[@MangroveSnooker]

What’s a good brand epoxy primer

[@lancelot1959]

I loved the video.

[@alanc.142]

Can you spray epoxy and high build primer right after ?

[@kandyman5315]

With ppg yes let fully flash about 40 min and hit it

[@jimt3409]

Is that an advantage over dp 40?

[@5H4V3D89]

Just different color same primer

[@jimt3409]

@@5H4V3D89 thank you.

[@JuanjoseMiguel-z9f]

Do you need to scratch the primer Before body filler

[@kandyman5315]

Ppg does have a window where you don't have to. But I always do

[@JuanjoseMiguel-z9f]

@@kandyman5315 I’m doing restorations , but I feel like is not worth the pay people want to pay , I’ll say my work is not excellent but is really good . For a good job how much would be a good price to charge for a restoration or a change of color

[@tonydiesel3444]

What is your take on the universal primer sealer surfacer DTM type

[@kandyman5315]

Depends on the brand but they work fine

[@Iflyl0w]

is the fuji spray he mentioned airless/turbine?

[@kandyman5315]

No gravity feed spray gun mpv8

[@JuanjoseMiguel-z9f]

Do you put high build primer over epoxy ?

[@kandyman5315]

Yes 👍

[@epicasmasher5504]

Good job

[@TheseBygones]

Link to that epoxy primer?

[@kandyman5315]

No link, sorry check with your local ppg paint store

[@gregcowan4477]

What pad do you use to get the metal that smooth

[@kandyman5315]

Da pad

[@Supanova70]

Why 180 grit?

[@kandyman5315]

Good scratch

[@hobbyautobodyfun9315]

Dude how big is that spray booth .

[@kandyman5315]

30x30

[@hobbyautobodyfun9315]

@@kandyman5315 nice I never painted in a booth looks great 👍

[@jimk7882]

Epoxy is optional on a vehicle stripped by machine or chemically but not a must.

[@thomasstott527]

some of us dont agree ... epoxy is a must on bare metal for proper adhesion for every step after and to seal metal... chemically stripping is a entire different video... if you use a chemical to strip it must be properly neutralized or you can have problems later in the paint job... the safest way to strip a car is good old DA and 80 grit... chemical you have to neutralize ... sandblasting can warp panels and you will never... ever ...get all the sand out... dipping you can never safely apply primer to all areas stripped to stop rust prevention... all stripping is flawed... but to people building cars correctly ...epoxy is a must... people like Kandy man are doing every thing right!

[@jimk7882]

@@thomasstott527 Epoxy is only a must on a sandblasted car. I never sandblast cars because as you said it warps and it also stretches panels. Almost all vehicles have a clear electroplated coating on the metal from the factory. Only the blasting method of stripping paint removes that coating. Again,only blasted cars need to be epoxyed.

[@thomasstott527]

@@jimk7882 well that is your opinion.. not a wise one.. but you have the right to have one..

[@jimk7882]

@@thomasstott527 Wise and proven. Hopefully someone else will read my dialogue and save on materials they don't 'need.'

[@thomasstott527]

@Jim K just curious... who as proven this... as every major paint company... primer company and most filler companies say otherwise...

[@larrysorenson4789]

Thank youpal.

[@MartinRacingChannel]

What stripping process did yall use?

[@kandyman5315]

From da to stripping wheels finish in 180grit

[@LiveInTheNow247]

Epoxy is a sealer, let's not confuse the people.

[@kandyman5315]

Sealer , primer

[@Supanova70]

I thought 80 was the standard for epoxy

[@kandyman5315]

I like 180

[@ElvinLeadfoot]

It’s not a body shop! It’s more like a food production facility:)

[@kandyman5315]

Lol

[@victorrojas8868]

I have the same car