How To Troll SPG Players

[@ianbird8617]

SPGs the most nerfed vehicles in the game. The ammo was nerfed, the aiming was nerfed, the damage was nerfed. A whole line of tanks was introduced as in clown cars to spot Arta on the maps early (it back fired on WGin) and limit game play. The trajectory lines are not mapped properly in the game. The arty lines have not been introduced with the new nations they get no game development. You cannot add mods and certain devices to improve performance, unlike all other vehicle lines. Yes WGin and fan boys want Arta out of the game………but after all these nerfs etc.Who do the fan boys blame first for losing games Arta…….The CCs are prejudiced against Arta. The campaign missions have not been adjusted to take into account the nerfs. So why do I play Arta because it’s fun

[@paulfountain1364]

Me too, good on ya.

[@johncodmore]

Truth, in every line.

[@sofnsad]

I play arty coz its hard. And yes, WG need to update their "indirect fire" line of vehicles. I want short range, fast reload, high angle mortars. And by god do i want an MLRS that fires like 20 rockets, munts the fk out of everything in a whole given area, takes about 10s to dump out the rockets (so you can be shot at reasonably easy) and then has to reload for about 2 or 3 mins.... GIMME!

[@Swellington_]

@@sofnsad well thats just dumb,unless your enemy has something to counter,how bout nuclear warheads? wtf 😂 😂

[@sofnsad]

@@Swellington_ Have you not noticed the godamned clown cars rolling around in a tank game at 90kph shooting like a ninja? Thats your fn counter!

[@gord7025]

If I'm playing SPG, I try to balance out flanks and also look at self preservation by worrying about what's the biggest threat to me. If I can stay in the battle long enough to help, it's better for the team.

[@garrybrough72]

Totally!

[@GeoffreyIronfist]

Supporting the weakest flank pays off in the long run

[@robbyrocksoo]

What they don't take into account though on the EU server, is they are waiting to shoot an enemy until your SPG's stun wears off, all that time they are waiting, they are not doing damage. If you are not doing damage, and the enemy team is still shooting and doing damage, the hit point total for your team is going down, and the enemy team is staying the same for that time. They may be responsible for their team losing, and possibly getting less credits, and xp, as the losing team gets less than the winning team. If it's a close game, you may be responsible for your team losing.

[@billwalker9509]

This was one of your best videos with excellent, relevant commentary. 👍👍

[@urban__nomad_1]

he is an ass...

[@HeinzGuderian_]

I've watched players on the NA server ignore the stun until it's over and then go in and die. I asked why, and every one of them says "so you don't get any XP from it". When I point out their stupidity cost them their life, and maybe the game, they don't care. It's an odd mindset that makes a person prefer being killed than sharing XP and living to earn more XP and credits.

[@uwillnevahno6837]

That's a common sentiment from bad, average and good players alike. They're all so dumb for intentionally failing to exploit an advantage i.e. stuns and tracked targets.

[@philipbgardner]

I've seen a decline in players wanting to play as a team, they don't care about winning, only about damage... so arty's abilty to help is negated, and no regard for 'assisting'

[@theodorefreeman]

People that dislike or even hate arty have personal issues. There isn't a military in the world that doesn't want arty support. If you have problems playing against arty, learn to play.

[@GeoffreyIronfist]

You are the first content provider to mention that some players don't shoot stunned tanks. It is obviously for selfish reasons they do not shoot stunned tanks, which also means they do not care about winning but either are trying to improve their WN8 or MOE or some other personal metric. In other situations, especially on some maps, team mates don't shoot anyway because they are hiding behind cover waiting for the SPG to carry but no SPG has enough ammo and enough time to blindshoot the entire enemy team. The remedy to team mates not shooting stunned tanks is to switch to the other flank.

[@kramsc1]

Wargaming have already trolled SPG to death.

[@claudespeaks]

Exactly!

[@hooute]

ban em name of game is wo Tanks sud not be in game

[@ABoringTool]

There are still people playing SPG so we still have a long way to go

[@stevenarmstrong6622]

​@@ABoringTool you have a long way to go finding skill. 2025 and still complaining about arta 😂

[@ABoringTool]

​@stevenarmstrong6622 I'm not saying I have skill, I am saying that SPG players are not even close to experiencing enough pain playing the game

[@MarkWilkinson-jl2ef]

Learn something every day from your channel Claus. I assumed (when I've seen it happen on NA server) my teammates were just trolling me because of the collective hatred for SPGs in the game by leaving stunned opponents alone.

[@johnnynielsen3006]

Stun Assists...? If it's a cause for tank players to deny the artillery to earn experience by not shooting a stunned enemy, then what about the Spotting Assistance...? Artillery players need to see and shoot spotted targets, and frontline tanks do that spotting. Aren't they feeding each other experience by spotting and stunning the enemy tanks in turns...? Besides if it also causes the team to lose, wouldn't that also dent your WN8 stats...? It's baffling to play like that...

[@matthewandrews9052]

Stunned again!!! Stunned again!!! Wwwoooaaahhhh!!!

[@Quenstar]

Not "patient," "Selfish."

[@shamanenrique]

who left the grille under the spg shell?!?!

[@matthewandrews9052]

French arty went counter clockwise initially…

[@Nandos_very_perry]

Often helps when a heavy tank gets stunned as they pull up trading their hp to take a shot with high alpha damage, if they miss because of the stun it’s a great trade for your team.

[@stevecastellarin698]

Thanks for this video Claus! It's nice to watch SPG games every once in a while, even though they are SPGs and are the scourge of the game most times!

[@Smallbore40X]

I don't play much anymore but when I do I am primarily an arty player. I can only recall one player holding off shooting when I stunned someone. He did it two shots in a row so I waited until he was engaged with several tanks and stunned him. I checked his stats after the game and he was an 11K rated Twitch streamer I watch once in a while.

[@3rdn7rvr97]

People on the NA server are doing the same thing on SPG stuns. The EU content creators made sure to spread the word.

[@chrisckinfos54]

i play in the eu servers. its true the hate of spgs its true they curse as calling the players the cancers. it is difficult to finish the missions because as you refer they dont shoot. what they dont realise is that playing spg is more difficult and boring than other tanks BUT IT TAKES more talent to be the 1st in the games and the most important they dont know or ignore is that in some scenarios only spgs can unlock the game to win due to the enemy positioning.

[@Atomicjedi]

I used to love SPGs when they did like 500+ damage per shot, you really could do some evil stuff with those, you could even carry if you wanted to. These days, SPGs are a nuisance and you can't carry shit in an SPG. They way they are today? WOT might just as easily delete them alltogether.

[@mikesecor6074]

the game is a mess, especially with the go carts.

[@pun15h3r.]

I mean you should not carry in an SPG. Those are support Tanks. And i should know, i can drive one iRL. But the mechanic in WoT is still unfulfilling and could be waaay more player- and game friendly. But yeah, WG does not care i think. Nerfed em hard so they don't ruin the gameplay per se, must be enough i guess.

[@GeoffreyIronfist]

If they delete them altogether, it will only be because of young people who do not understand what team play is and it is not always the young people who spend money on the game. This is one of the few first person shooter like games that appeals to older people because it has a small element of teamwork and team strategy, not much but more than none.

[@alex.mielus]

For the main mission: "Finish the battle as the top player on your team by experienced earned. Enable your allies to cause 2.100 HP of damage to enemy vehicles by stunning or immobilising them." For completing it with honors: "Cause 2.700 HP of damage to enemy vehicles. Destroy all enemy vehicles / capture or defend base." Finish the battle as the top player on your team by experienced earned, that's probably the hardest part for this mission, it's the same for Obj 260 as well. I for one usually request fire at the targets that I am stunning AND thank the people who shoot.

[@davidgallimore9656]

I wish every day could be arty day. Arty players are people too. We need love and understanding, just like the super heavy hull down players get.

[@matthewandrews9052]

On console I ground American line to tier 9 but now refuse to play Jeff’s and won’t play wheeled cars. I once got bombadier medal killing two tanks with one shot. It was also cool one shooting a tier 9 medium for ~1650 - 1800 or whatever. But as a matter of principle have not played artah in 2-3 years. Good games. Thanks Claus.

[@woodyamsterdam]

I play a lot of SPG battles (EU) but I have never encountered that my teammates deliberately refused to shoot stunned enemy tanks.

[@JohnDoe-qt3qg]

They do - a lot

[@kurtwinchell]

I have on US, not like a toxic amount, but I've definitely seen it.

[@stevenarmstrong6622]

They do it all the time :D

[@claudespeaks]

@@woodyamsterdam I've never encountered it personally but I can believe given some of the people that play World of Tanks that it can happen

[@GeoffreyIronfist]

It is only a few playes who do it, I need to check, I think it is probably people who are good and want to improve their MOE or WN8. A lot of players are not good and simply do not shoot stunned tanks or unstunned tanks. Most players play normally and a lot pf good players do not waste the opportunity to shoot stunned or tracked tanks. There can always be short sighted selfish weirdos in every type of game, it's not as if we get to choose the team mates.

[@Honecker-m7t9j]

Hitting the same tank 5 or more times and making life miserable is the SPG player's spice of life!

[@TheRealBozz]

Meanwhile the unseen shitbarn is deleting tier 10 mediums and td's with one shot, but it's sky cancer that's the games biggest problem.

[@eden3d609]

Tanks for the tip Claus!

[@russwoodward8251]

The first game had a good map for arty. There are some nice tips here. The second game was some good arty. Weird thing about the EU server.

[@Gamu13]

I am an FV304 player, this is the one of the most fair & extremely fun artillery in game (perhaps). Because FV304 has no range and no splash dmg, you must act aggressively on the battlefield always behind allied attacking forces. I love also the kamikaze ramming at the end of game, giving to me so much fun. I agree with other people in chat to reduce all arta's full map range. The players become lazy over time and hated. Thanks Claus for video.

[@jamesmaslanka9557]

I noticed with the new skill options my SPG were missing more often. Had to redo skills for aiming and dispersions bonus to make it work again.

[@LowryYT]

Is spotting assist also stolen xp?

[@josephdavidson323]

Its very rare when I get 0 stun assist the team wins

[@LLIu3A]

Respect to all the "gods of war" for not abandoning this game! Hang in there, brothers.

[@kingoftadpoles]

I'm taking a sabbatical at the moment as I need a new PC to cope with the eye candy. I will then redeploy my stock of mastered SPGs, and troll all the whinging premiums I can. 'WRATH OF HEAVEN!'

[@petepyzdrowski9566]

The mechanic where the aim circle blossoms when the enemy starts to move when arty is aiming is just wrong. Arty aims at a spot.

[@milivanili3791]

4:20 21.000 assist. Sweet dreams. 9:50 - it's called 'teamwork'. ;)

[@kallbrand]

It is very hard to do SPG-15 when players spam med kits left and right. Also I noticed the same behaviour. I stunned a tank and they ignored the target.

[@GeoffreyIronfist]

Also some players do not shoot tracked tanks.I would not be surprised if there are players not shooting spotted tanks unless they have spotted them themselves. One consolation is that playes who do not play arty at some point will have to do the arty missions.

[@kallbrand]

@@GeoffreyIronfist Nah, they can do the orders to bypass. IF you do them one almost need at least 9/10 russian, english and french arty. I for one like to play arty.

[@garrybrough72]

Well Claus you certainly sparked a conversation with this one 🙂

[@matthardy301]

do you all steal Light tanks xp then? since we get only half and you only have to sit still? Should we get 100/150% since you cant do anything without in most spot situations?

[@user-me6dx6xk1g]

For to say. Arty day!

[@prepresslabco]

Say Hello Kitty!!! When SPG is last of team...

[@ChoppersModelworks]

With my head injuries and concussions i find i can only normally play the ARTY types because of the slower less visually changing game play. But even then, i can't help but laugh and hear Denis Leary singing "I'm an asshole" song in my mind.

[@2tone209]

AY UP CLAUS

[@youtuberoku4819]

Sharing, not stealing, Claus 😂

[@johncodmore]

I have seen players holding fire on EU stunned enemies too, worried about their wn8 I guess. I hope that WG can address this leeching issue.

[@treadheadpete4770]

I have my trolling rod, and the boat is ready to go! Oh wait, the other type of trolling.

[@masguite5015]

I took a bath after watching this.

[@cb3391]

Sadly the only spg I was good with, the glitter bomb.

[@3DModelwerks]

Claus is at it again :)

[@mudducke8]

I got 2200 points of stun assist playing my M44 yesterday. I was surprised.

[@mixalisvatraxopoulos8203]

yes on eu server "people" stop shooting stuned enemys and when the target no longer stuned it just evaporates ofcorse the "people" didnt lose xp but they lost the battle becouse they stoped shooting

[@davek7437]

I get team mates in at least 75% of my arty games NOT shoot my stunned target.

[@matthewschauenburg]

Tracking assist works the same as stun assist?

[@maxx5058]

where are the rocket boosted SPG's?

[@audiosaucer2124]

I play quite a lot of t5-6-7 SPG. I have yet to play higher tiers, but I'd say that even inside a game, flanks can differ, one flank they'll shoot no matter what, because the game is about pushing and winning, and the other flank using the waiting technique because of "Me Me Me"-syndrome :P So, yes, it's there, but I don't think it's TOO annoying though :)

[@Icebear2012]

Playing SPG is least "up to you" class. You are in mercy of everything. Map, luck(in multiple ways, not just rng), your team(too good or too bad), enemy team. Sure, if you are very bad player you might do better with arty point and click system. Getting good games is harder than in other classes.

[@davidlabedz2046]

Hip, hip hooray for SPG day!!!🎉🎉

[@nataliiateteruk585]

Noticed that many arty players make that twitch just moment after firing. Maybe it has to do with wishful thinking it highers hitrate.

[@josephdavidson323]

I always support the weak flank so I dont get flanked

[@pun15h3r.]

Why else would you play SPG if not for the missions lol

[@trentrussell69]

I hate the enemy team SPG more especially when there are 3 in one game.

[@garrybrough72]

I don't care about the haters - SPG players are people too. 🙂 On the topic of "stealing XP" in the EU servers I agree with your theory. I always look to fire on the enemies most likely to be shot next by allies but as you said often no one fires on them. However, when playing my favourite SPG the FV304 you don't do stuns so I aim to blow the enemy tracks off which genuinely does help our guys by making the enemy sit still for a while. They tend to get shot at more consistently. Anyway I am certainly an SPG specialist and I am people too 🙂

[@danerogers9058]

Big Pharma has created some very strange mental issues in some people.

[@inhvman]

ill never play an SPG in my life

[@Zamnek]

Arty's just doing its job. Players holding back trying to steal kills or sandbag until the end of the match hoping they'll clean up all the damaged enemy tanks are selfish. I've played every type of tank over 8 years, all my non-elite tanks are tier 9 save for two tier 8s, and I can say beyond a doubt that WG has nerfed artillery to the point that it's the most challenging/frustrating type to play. But it's the players and their lemming trains that are the worst thing to have affected both artillery and the overall gameplay.

[@wulfeman9948]

i like that camo and the dog camo also

[@vincentwiddershoven2122]

I play my Artys on the EU server. EU1 is a helllhole for playing Arty. I have been beraded, personaly offended, pusht off cliffs and even had one muppit pinned me down in a corner... EU2 has a morw friendly mindset imo. They spot for you, let you do your thing, request assistance to you dirctly. And are generly nicer, also against other players. So... iftou play Arty on a EU server, go to EU2 and maybe whe wil meet at the battlle field. 😂😁

[@LuckiesLife]

I love trolling in my Leffy. The amount of hilarious hate messages I receive when I play is fantastic. The salty tears of whining bitchy tankers sustains me. Go Clickers!

[@claudespeaks]

@@LuckiesLife the leaf blower was not my favorite artillery to play before the Nerf but now it's the only one that still has a super punch....

[@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76]

It's not called the LeFUCKyou for nothing

[@sofnsad]

Try the Crusader SP with the short gun, its my fave trolling tool. Its short range sucks and often doesnt hit hard but its so flat you can hide it anywhere, under a 10s reload, the aim circle is often smaller than enemy tanks so only WG can make you miss (FK RNG) and its faster driving backwards which often means you can kill the mighty lighty coming for you....he doesnt realise your gun is pointing at him! But tracking someone and then every 10s another hit till they die often gets me one of those golden, lovely hate messages.....

[@alancomercomer2588]

So the spy shouldent shoot?

[@RR2BOX46]

It's kind of sad how SPG players get treated, both from a mechanics and community perspective. All the crap people say about SPG players is pure motivation. :)

[@DrunkSailor73]

They wait on the American server too

[@joyroc885]

I never paid attention cause its a team game. Maybe they need a single player mode for the ones that don't want to play as a team. Drop them on a map and let them have a free for all. It be the fortnite of tanks.

[@ianbird8617]

French tier 6/7 best. 9/10 doesn’t pen heavies or armour well

[@stevewebster5729]

I've never seen that on the EU server. Maybe the odd really calculating player might be able to do that. but most schmos just shoot

[@JeffWF73]

Here you have tanks that will kill a majority in one shot, Arty is nerfed to oblivion and they still cry only about arty, I suppose those Participation trophies contributed to this. Nobody learned to do anything and still get rewarded, While crying about what others do and trying to control everyone. I think it's past due time these children give back those participation trophies and learn how to play instead of crying.

[@matthewandrews9052]

Claus..how do we know Jeff’s/artahs are people too? Where’s the evidence? 🤔😁

[@Mikethepumpguy]

Now that I know how to mess with spg's I'm going to. Thanks

[@lMrJackl]

I didn't think stun xp was split? Thought the arty got the full amount the same as the damage dealing tank, to stop the shot holding thing? Anyway arty needs a complete rework, it sucks for the arty player and the other tanks!

[@bannmeile]

I am allways belaughed with my Bishop. But who is laughing after the game? Bishop on the top with sometimes 1200 and more damage? I had fun and will have again....

[@rogerbennett2025]

i only play arty when i have those stupid missions .. hit 7 tanks in a game or 7 critical hits... arty actually ruins the game for me .. because i cant retaliate when someone is on the other side of the map tracking and hitting me .... and people always say .. well ..move .. i guess i could hide behind a building and not help the teams..??? right

[@seankstafford566]

Lol go ahead dont shoot the stunned. Let the enemy have extra shots while you wait

[@scewston420]

U don’t troll me I troll u

[@TheBigCat2001]

Was it worth it? ….. maybe

[@robbleeker4777]

You seem to know a lot about the SPG..

[@GrinnenBaeritt]

I often see a target, stunned, surrounded by auto-loader mediums, all waiting for the stun couner to end before firing. It's really not that unusual Artillery players are very often berated, and abused, with no real foundation, and WG actively pander to those who whine and moan about arty. It's time the branch got some balanceing factors to counter all the nerfs (and the "buffs" that every other vehicle classes have got with regard to the mechanics, which further disadvantage arty). 1. REMOVE FRIENDLY STUN. 2. Allow arty players to dictate and display Stuns, either to other Arty, those players platooning with arty, and ONLY the targets KNOW for sure that they have been stunned. 3. Nerf the leafblowers view range, but increase all other arty view ranges. 4. Allow any vehicle of any class, or tier to be able to use any equipment, and have equal levels of field mods, equipment slots. 5. If the arty crew has the concealment skill, then this applies to the trace left when firing, in game, and whilst topdown. 6. The "Trace" only applies when firing HE, and applies to ANY vehicle firing above a certain calibre gun. 7. When in "top-down" mode, the render order changes so that program renders targets FIRST on the mini-map. (When playing slower PC's, there is often a 2-3 second lag when a target is spotted and a players swaps between modes. It should be set as a default when playing arty for it to render first when "Top-down". 8. HE effects/penetration should be equalised accross ALL vehicle classes, based entirely on the calibre of the gun. (Yes, this does mean non- arty can Stun too...). 8. Increase the effects of stun on lighter vehicles, relating it to a comparision between weight of the target and the calbre of ordanace used against it. (ELC, and wheeled vehicles should be knocked sideways(perhaps even tipped), and NEVER simply recieve a non-penalising "critical hit" when hit directly. .

[@Nandos_very_perry]

And I only dislike the leaf blower’s and other high fire rate seal clubbing spg’s but it does put new players in check I guess but I’ll never be that guy lol

[@ernestpaul2484]

Yes Claus, SPG players are people too. They are just a special kind of people as society has labeled them.

[@GeoffreyIronfist]

They are over 16 years old

[@ianbird8617]

No wonder so many cheaters get 279e with assistance lol

[@sofnsad]

For you wussy tank players, imagine being in a tank that has a 20+s reload, 10s aim time and you have to aim where your enemy WILL BE in 4s. Anyone can play WoT in a damn tank.

[@ABoringTool]

Whoa you have to do all of that? You have to aim?! And reload?! And predict the enemy? Now I know why giving you guys a keyboard and turret might be too much 😂

[@stephenbennett9427]

Happy algorithm comment have a good day

[@DrunkSailor73]

Stun damage is stupid

[@johnwayne5976]

I love playing the game, but they ruined it for arty players. I only have one working hand so I play mostly arty. But they made it difficult to do much with all the nurfs. Wish they go back to the way it was 4 years ago.

[@sempertalis1230]

I am a NA player but also play sometimes EU server. Your comment about player not shooting when the enemy is stunned is quite BS ( with all respect) . Because of the larger ping I play more SPG in EU and I have in the last 6 years not seen anyone not taking a shot because the enemy is stunned. Why should they , the enemy is impaired due to stunning, reloads slower, has less view range , etc, so it is a win if he is stunned and you have an easier shot. Maybe they recognize you and think is this the A..hole? Better I do not shoot

[@20Redram00]

Claus are you surviving ok up there? Or are you crying in your beer because Comrade Trudeau is resigning?

[@dcummings7253]

Because EU server players play for themselves not as a team.

[@Benifull]

MAGA!!!! MAKE ARTY GREAT AGAIN. CRY BABY CC'S. I get TY's from good players all the time for stun assist so they can kill them. Can't disagree with you more about arty play and players. WG listens to the whiners. I play arty because its fun. Missions be damned.

[@Oxy_Cotton]

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[@W0lframAlpha8133]

World of Tanks has THE dumbest mechanics.

[@MEGA_Make_Europe_Great_Again]

Arty's are teamplayers. I get why there not liked, but they are a lot less annoying than the freaking vealed wehicles. Just saying...

[@salty4496]

:)

[@randy6999]

Bring back TK so arty wont shoot when you are close to an enemy. Its bullshit that the blast does not do damage to friendlies. Another stupid assed WOT policy.