"How To" Turn a Crappy Table Saw into a Good One

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Wooden Tool Man

Wooden Tool Man

10 жыл бұрын

In this video I show how I took a cheap crappy tablesaw and turned it into a good usable saw. I realize that I should have used a push stick.

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@shredboise
@shredboise 7 жыл бұрын
"trying to do any cuts with this thing it's just a nightmare." You said it. I'm going to have nightmares watching you saw those fingers off.
@prvtjy
@prvtjy 9 ай бұрын
😂🤣🤣😂
@kryczeck
@kryczeck 7 жыл бұрын
The opening part of the video is a great example on how to be as unsafe as possible with a table saw. Good job!
@brice5061
@brice5061 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing lol
@redlancer38
@redlancer38 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on Alex.
@timothyfleenor475
@timothyfleenor475 3 жыл бұрын
I mean does it really matter considering its himself and his body? safety is absolutely critical but a lot of us don't care either. Hell most of the time I remove safety shit when its restrictive. It's all about watching what you do.. About the only thing you should never get rid of is the Riving knife... as far as this, who cares.. when he screws up, thats on him.
@jtabet010
@jtabet010 3 жыл бұрын
Very bad demo on how to use a table saw
@roadrunner123
@roadrunner123 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothyfleenor475 Yes, it does matter especially when you are making a video that is suppose to be of educational value.
@tmorrison5965
@tmorrison5965 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, get a push stick dude!
@Qgal5kap123
@Qgal5kap123 5 жыл бұрын
He has 10 of them :-P
@emzirek
@emzirek 5 жыл бұрын
@Y T How about all 10 fingers?
@LFL-qp1fg
@LFL-qp1fg 5 жыл бұрын
I think people do stupid shit just so they can get comments from people with common sense.
@daskraut
@daskraut 5 жыл бұрын
push sticks are for pansies ^^
@emzirek
@emzirek 5 жыл бұрын
@@daskraut I'd rather be a ten finger pansy, than a no knuckle knuckle head
@kennethcarter3495
@kennethcarter3495 10 жыл бұрын
We used your video (with much starting and stopping) to turn my Ryobi saw into a good one. Then, my son and I took your concept a step further and added mitering capability (for half-lap joints, etc.). We built a guide track on the left side of the table, then built the miter to ride on the track. Getting it square was a pain, but now it works well. Thanks for the great idea.
@Woodentoolcompany2
@Woodentoolcompany2 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad it helped. I'm going to do some more to mine soon to and I'll post it once I get it done.
@gordbrown298
@gordbrown298 10 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing-picked up a crap tablesaw at Rona-scratch and dent for $89. Spent an hour fiddling with the fence. You just solved my fence problem in under 10 minutes! Hey fellow tubers lets appreciate the time, effort and thought that went into this project. Thank for sharing!!
@k.bellingham8335
@k.bellingham8335 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I too have a piece of crap table saw. Thanks for giving me some great ideas. First question, 3/4 " thick top, loosing depth of cut, problem? Second, fingers, still have all of them? Most comments are about your safety program, I see you don't seem too worried about it, as you replied to one "to each your own". Your fingers aren't mine so I guess I'm not worried either. I'm worried if you have safety glasses, well not really. Would be a shame if you lost your ability to share your good ideas though.
@TheWrinkledCheese
@TheWrinkledCheese 4 жыл бұрын
@@k.bellingham8335 I had this saw. Opted to replace it with a 9" 1970s Rockwell/Beaver for $80. Thing weighs 135 lbs though.
@AndrewDMurray84
@AndrewDMurray84 3 жыл бұрын
@@k.bellingham8335 this was the comment I was looking for. Something about the loss of cutting height on the blade. What I want to do is somehow remove the existing table surface and replace it with something similar to this. Not sure if I can..
@JamieHofman
@JamieHofman 8 жыл бұрын
This will be a nice reference/"memory" video for when you want to remember what your hands used to look like with 10 fingers.
@kondasixtytoo487
@kondasixtytoo487 5 жыл бұрын
Love it! My exact first thought. Why would you put this on KZbin
@petar2596
@petar2596 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@lyricderbin1169
@lyricderbin1169 5 жыл бұрын
Why? Because there's no blade guard? They don't protect your fingers
@stahpitt8531
@stahpitt8531 5 жыл бұрын
@@lyricderbin1169 He's not using a push stick, he also didn't put on the riving knife that comes with the saw, this prevents boards from warping and squeezing down on the blade like your car brakes do, resulting in a kickback. If your saw is powerful enough you can say goodbye to your thumbs pushing the board as they will break from the saw pushing the work piece back into your thumbs. That wouldn't be an issue if again he was using push sticks.
@TheWrinkledCheese
@TheWrinkledCheese 4 жыл бұрын
@@stahpitt8531 This saw is not powerful enough to kick back. I used the riving knife that came with the saw. It's too thin for standard kerf or the blade it comes with. I had a "kickback" occur once. The quotes are because the blade just bound up and stopped as I was able to over power the kickback. I had to push the reset on the motor. With the saw comes a blade, blade guard, riving knife, anti-kickback dogs ( like on a chainsaw ), and a push stick. I only ever used them all once. Made a push cleat and kept using the riving knife even though it was too thin. Ultimately replaced mine with a vintage saw.
@septimuspretorius250
@septimuspretorius250 5 жыл бұрын
Long sleeves + no push stick + table saw = a visit to the emergency room! Be careful sir.
@atcjmas
@atcjmas 3 жыл бұрын
+no riving knife...yikes
@jamescaneda9515
@jamescaneda9515 3 жыл бұрын
Hope he stays safe. I’d hate to find out his nickname is Stubby.
@joemontague7404
@joemontague7404 3 ай бұрын
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@Dwinchester45
@Dwinchester45 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing job! You got a new subscriber here. I'm just beginning. I worked with my grandfather for 5 years as a teen building doors and didn't pay enough attention so now I'm trying to relearn everything I can. Because my grandfather could build anything I mean absolutely anything so I have a full new respect for woodworkers
@Sonster9K
@Sonster9K 10 жыл бұрын
Fabulous upgrade!!! In the end, all you need is a good blade and a motor to turn it with. That table top and rip fence are the true jewels!!! Kudos to you!!!
@WillieStubbs
@WillieStubbs 8 жыл бұрын
I used your idea for separating the saw and stand, but I put the bolts sticking up through the stand so I can set the saw flat on the ground if need be. Also I had an old gate handle and added to the back for easy carrying.
@PiefacePete46
@PiefacePete46 8 жыл бұрын
+Willie Stubbs Good thinking Batman... That will also stop the bolts from chewing up the floor of your truck (van, car... whatever)
@Woodentoolcompany2
@Woodentoolcompany2 8 жыл бұрын
+Willie Stubbs Thanks for sharing. I wish I had of done the same thing. I'm going to switch mine.
@johnreid8551
@johnreid8551 8 жыл бұрын
+Wooden Tool Man Had done.
@Damin-Danger-Ledford
@Damin-Danger-Ledford 4 жыл бұрын
I just came here to see how many people went with "jeez, how hard can it be to find that slot?" Instead i found "Get a push stick your gonna lose your fingers..." Legend has it he's still looking for that slot, with the fingers he has left. Good Luck out there.
@alexwebster3151
@alexwebster3151 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I built my crappy $100 table saw into a good usable table saw including your new fence design. Then I actually rebuilt it. The plywood I used on the first one was a little bit warped. My table is only 90 cm wide and 80 cm deep. I made the second one with straighter plywood. I also cut 2 cm strips of 18 mm plywood and bolted them edgewise to the bottom of the table. Perfectly straight now. For the first while I kept checking my fence with a square, always right on the mark.
@maidayjeen6919
@maidayjeen6919 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I too have crappy table saw. Have a great day.
@EarlRausch
@EarlRausch 10 жыл бұрын
Great job! You turned a crap saw into a usable wood working saw. I often wonder how many guys buy that model of saw as there first saw, I bet they become frustrated right away. I hope they watch your video.
@CajunHook
@CajunHook 4 жыл бұрын
EarlRausch I have that saw. I won years ago in a safety meeting. I’m a crane operator by trade. At 45 yrs old I accidentally looked into wood working. Now I’m obsessed. Just tonight I had a piece of 3/4 plywood that had to be cut at 24”x47”. If I could’ve seen this video first. XD
@johnschultz3565
@johnschultz3565 7 жыл бұрын
Nice build! I am in the process of modding an el cheapo saw myself. The zero clearance and the improved fence add a great deal of safety and accuracy compared to the fence the saw comes with out of the box. I am including the ability to incorporate the riving knife for added kickback protection. Videos showing people using tools always look far more dangerous than the operation actually is. Great job! That stepped this $140 up to the quality of a $300 plus saw.
@skobli617
@skobli617 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this mate, I've just bought a differently-branded version of this same saw and found the exact same thing about the gate! This video is very useful and I'll follow it to make something similar myself.
@charmedparticle
@charmedparticle 9 жыл бұрын
i'm a painter. saw a carpenter ripping boards like you are doing in the video. board kicked back a little and hit him in the gut. it doubled him over like a good punch to the gut will do for most people. pure reflex made him put his right hand on the table saw. i guess training took over when he felt his hand touch the running table saw and he immediately threw his hand backwards away from the table. that split second should have been the end of his work day, if he hadn't missed the blade. you could tell he knew it too by how white he got. a push stick and feather boards keep you a bit farther away from the blade without inconvenience. there is no excuse to not use them. you certainly know your job. any one who has as much experience as you must know just how bad things can get, and how quickly they can happen. accidents happen to all levels of expertise. the more dangerous a machine, the better the safety measures you must take. if you wish to teach others without your years of woodworking, you must teach what beginners should know. a person with a brand new table saw might not understand that cutting boards like you did is not something they can do as beginners, if ever. don't get mad that others brought up safety concerns for you, just make a video about safety and link it to this one. your videos are unbelievable diy, shouldn't you have at least one video on the safety concerns related to the making and operating of such machines?
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 5 жыл бұрын
Charley Bana: that little cheap saw wouldn’t have that much power. Kickback won’t feel good but won’t double him over
@ralphmeldrum9644
@ralphmeldrum9644 5 жыл бұрын
Charley Bana
@thegoodfight365
@thegoodfight365 5 жыл бұрын
thanks to the writer of this reply. I'm a beginner and I just got my first table saw so i really appreciate the thought that were addressed here as well as the video itself. In fact I think this reply improved the video or rather completed it. 👍🏾
@baq8680
@baq8680 5 жыл бұрын
@@BiggMo good to see you didn't miss the entire point of Eliseo Jacome's well thought out, well written commentary...
@David-hm9ic
@David-hm9ic 3 жыл бұрын
@@BiggMo It's not just the horsepower of the motor. You have the spinning mass of the blade, pulleys (if it has any) and the motor itself. All of that rotating mass will still make for a nasty kickback.
@MrDmorgan52
@MrDmorgan52 3 жыл бұрын
While I'm a firm believer in a push stick, I've never used a saw with a riving knife or safety guard. Saws just didn't have them or I'm older than most. I learned to keep hands where I could see them at all times.
@danceanddreams1
@danceanddreams1 2 жыл бұрын
there is the story of the carpenter who worked his whole life and one week before retirement he loses his hand
@sbichet31
@sbichet31 10 жыл бұрын
Hello, I restored a old Table saw by following your video and it works very well. Thank you for your inspiration. I'm impressed by the accurity and the simplicity of the design. I'm new in woodworking leasure and this kind of experience is really encouraging. Sorry, for my english, I'm from France.
@nataliecook7055
@nataliecook7055 9 жыл бұрын
The fact that you still have fingers after this little display of incompetence amazes me and I am sure a lot of other people. When you pay $100 for a saw what did you expect a Saw Stop cabinet saw? Like one of the previous comments said let’s hope someone does not take this to heart. Here is the best advice I ever got about table saws: Save your money and buy a decent saw with an accurate fence system.
@56IMME
@56IMME 8 жыл бұрын
I am surprised he still has all his fingers...make a push block please
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Sirois Made me cringe in 2 seconds.
@danijelpetrovic420
@danijelpetrovic420 8 жыл бұрын
hobi masine i j
@trinifirst6702
@trinifirst6702 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Sirois I kept expecting to see his fingers come off
@TheOnlyTruthJC
@TheOnlyTruthJC 8 жыл бұрын
I fully agree, EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!
@Abundanthealthcoach
@Abundanthealthcoach 8 жыл бұрын
+CoolHandBart74 nervewracking lol
@rechmoje
@rechmoje 9 жыл бұрын
you should run a thin piece of metal along your tightener rail to keep your bolt from cuting in.
@jeffwolf8018
@jeffwolf8018 5 жыл бұрын
Exact thought running nice piece of bar metal up against that fence rather than that piece of plywood it'll last substantially longer. And also use a nut inside the wood to help support it as well this guy on the backside ride along with the metal that it meets with. With maybe a washer in between.
@joeygunzilla6878
@joeygunzilla6878 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffwolf8018 oh man I thought the EXACT same thing with the nut & washer setup, set inside his locking knob. 👍 Great idea putting flat bar on the fence part 👌
@jeffwolf8018
@jeffwolf8018 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeygunzilla6878 thanks.. Im great at improving flawed designs. Have great day
@joeygunzilla6878
@joeygunzilla6878 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffwolf8018 so am I.. People around me get annoyed by it. I'm a bit of a perfectionist, admittedly it gets annoying to me at times.. overthinking and obsessing over details.. But hey the end result doesn't have to be redone/fixed
@jeffwolf8018
@jeffwolf8018 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeygunzilla6878 yup wint leave a job till Im happy which is far better than 90% people ever get and see hacked const jobs from far away. Like a thumb hit by hammer, 5 min after when its red and feel heartbeat in it. I ran my iwn home repair co before geti g hit with Colitis and lost entire lg intestine 0, 3 to 4 years after started own co maki g tons of money on only word of mouth. Now its much worse Crohn's, Pouchitis, Carpel Tunnel, RA, and a bag on my belly in 2018 and the original colitis still here to.. Still know how yo do everything and several hundred thousand in tools. But body says fuck that.
@MrWolfTickets
@MrWolfTickets 10 жыл бұрын
lol, good hind sight on the push stick. I gasped on one of those last intro cuts. thanks a million for this great video.
@joeygunzilla6878
@joeygunzilla6878 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! this video is 1,000% useful to me! Someone gave me a crappy saw like this one. It's a "Skillsaw" model looks almost identical to this one (most likely Chinese mass produced garbage, branded under different companies) I'm going to build this today since I have to rip cut a BUNCH of pallet boards probably have to do about 5-600 rip cuts and was worried about then being straight 😖 And to all the hating, OSHA police commenting. Go watch a safety video for safety tips! This video is OBVIOUSLY NOT about safety or about anything other then this jig setup! I love that it's not veering off topic to advertise a sponsorship, beg for money, play lame music, talk about obvious safety BS! This video is pure old school useful KZbin content! 👌 THANKS AGAIN! take care everyone, work hard, have fun and go build something!✌️
@HBSuccess
@HBSuccess 10 жыл бұрын
I totally agree w all of the safety comments - you are playing with fire friend. All it takes is hitting a knot or even just cutting loose built up tension in a piece of wood to create a kickback or a jam that can suck your hand into the blade. It happens much faster than any normal human has reaction time so there is nothing you can do but go looking for the severed finger. Avoidance is the only chance you have, so poo-pooing riving knives, blade guards, and push sticks is really really dumb. Just hope some young kid doesn't take your comments too seriously and hurt themselves. Now about the project. It took you two hours and there appears to be at least $100 in Baltic plywood and fasteners. So there's $200 plus the $150 for the junk skil tablesaw. $50 more and you could have had a floor demo Bosch which has a dandy rip fence. I do appreciate the "home made bench power tools" vids that pop up on Utoob for entertainment value, but they almost never save any real dollars and the safety factor of all that stuff is highly questionable.
@JimTom.
@JimTom. 10 жыл бұрын
have you ever used a table saw? first of all the blade doesnt suck your hand into it, it cuts not sucks. you only get kickback if youre forcing the saw or if youre not holding on the wood secure enough. hes been using a table saw for years as you can tell, so he made it to suit his needs/comforts
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 10 жыл бұрын
95jamesg I have a kickback scar. Kickback can send wood through a wall. If you think holding it down with your fingers is sufficient, you're really wrong. He should have a riving knife or a splitter. He should also use a push stick/block when pushing wood past the blade. What he does with himself is fine, but when you're showing others how you use tools, you need to show some responsibility.
@JimTom.
@JimTom. 10 жыл бұрын
it all depends on the circumstances and materials, AND the user, but i agree i would prefer a riving knife too, and therefore i wouldnt use this saw for tasks that require a riving knife. i still stand with my previous comment though
@JimTom.
@JimTom. 10 жыл бұрын
if you hold the wood securely, you can feel if the saw wants to kickback, and you do have enough time to make the desicion to stand to the side and let go in most cases, provided youre not forcing it, again this comes down to experience. you can even shut the saw off while holding the wood
@niklar55
@niklar55 10 жыл бұрын
.....but not as much fun or satisfaction!
@pumpkinheadghoul
@pumpkinheadghoul 7 жыл бұрын
"Gees, how hard can it be to find that slot?" If there were ever a sentence perfectly made for the "That's what she said" comeback, that would be it.
@CajunHook
@CajunHook 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Lamp instant ‘that’s what she said’ when I heard that. Lol
@danielombard6677
@danielombard6677 7 ай бұрын
Iv made this fence a couple of years ago.... Still working great. Thanking you sir🙏😊
@Mab0r0shi
@Mab0r0shi 10 жыл бұрын
good job, i ve bought a kinda cheap table saw with a crappy guide and i was wondering how i could make it better but now i know :) thanks a lot :D
@Digitalinkarts
@Digitalinkarts 8 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you still have fingers.
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 8 жыл бұрын
I see he doesn't like using push sticks.
@johng2880
@johng2880 8 жыл бұрын
Wimps
@priayief
@priayief 7 жыл бұрын
I despise safety trolls but gotta admit the opening shots made me cringe! Sorry about that!
@lastmansleeping5433
@lastmansleeping5433 7 жыл бұрын
And baggy clothing right over the blade. Always a good decision.
@dash3dot
@dash3dot 5 жыл бұрын
@@priayief there is no such thing as safety trolls, there are only stupid people that screw up with safety and making stupid comments on the internet... just like you.
@RustyOrange71
@RustyOrange71 5 жыл бұрын
Fingers, Timothy! You're never too old to lose some fingers. A push stick is the simplest thing in the world to make! Jeez, how hard can it be?
@davidnleeh4
@davidnleeh4 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thanks for showing this. I need to do the same thing (in a way) to my deceased father-in-law old (Craftsman) table saw that I was given after his passing. It has a lot of play in the fence & the miter guage tracks have a lot of slop/play in them. Gave me some good ideas & also one for making your fence micro-adjustable, so thank you again for posting this! Would love (if & when you make it) to see your sled for it.
@dichotomy1593
@dichotomy1593 9 жыл бұрын
Outstanding fix! I'm adding this to my list of mods for my tools I'll be doing soon. Great job and a no bullshit video!
@Adrian-my7re
@Adrian-my7re 8 жыл бұрын
He'll learn soon enough to use push sticks. I have used power tools almost every day for about 15 years now, my incident came 6 years ago on a table saw, half the bottom of my thumb (including half the finger nail) was shaved off by the blade on a kick back. It was quite a site, you could actually see all the fatty tissue. It became one of the most painful cuts ever since I would randomly hit my thumb throughout the healing process. Funny part is because I continued to work that day and I was in such pain, I also clipped my index finger 2 hours later on the miter saw while attempting to cut crown molding. From that day on I take all safety precautions very seriously, I'm also glad my fingers look normal, although my index finger is a bit more sensitive on the tip.
@patrick-xu1go
@patrick-xu1go 7 жыл бұрын
Question: why did you continue to work instead of get your happy ass to the ER?
@MarcMeal
@MarcMeal 7 жыл бұрын
Perkaholic because his cut didn't require an ER visit. There is next to nothing they could have done for him.
@Adrian-my7re
@Adrian-my7re 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly what Marcus said, although painful, nothing could really be done at that point, plus I was in a crunch to get the job done. Either way it was a good lesson learned which I learned the hard way... Safety First
@patrick-xu1go
@patrick-xu1go 7 жыл бұрын
They could have like covered up the cut with skin grafts or something
@MarcMeal
@MarcMeal 7 жыл бұрын
Perkaholic umm I think you have his injury exaggerated in your mind.
@wildcat19671
@wildcat19671 9 жыл бұрын
Adding a piece of Formica to the top makes things slide better and makes it more durable.
@geekay101
@geekay101 4 жыл бұрын
Needs to be applied both sides, if not, the sheet develops a nice cup, makes it useless.
@jimmydocherty6065
@jimmydocherty6065 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'd already started to make a table saw (busy doing it now) but wasn't sure how to keep wood parallel to the blade .I'm just a d.i.y. guy but your fence is really good and looks to be pretty accurate, and within my capabilities. Many thanks.
@jamesd.wheeler6190
@jamesd.wheeler6190 8 жыл бұрын
I bought a $100 saw in 2000 and used it 1000s of times and the motor finally went last week 2016 so these cheap saws do last a while and like he said are light, small, and very portable. looks like a sound idea!
@jessetrejo8317
@jessetrejo8317 4 жыл бұрын
Where do I find plans for this fence.
@leighdoonan5649
@leighdoonan5649 9 жыл бұрын
When are you going to show how you would making the cross cut sled. Really keen to see how you would go about it. I have just copied the saw table top onto my ryobi saw table and love it. Thanks heaps. Leigh
@tkarlmann
@tkarlmann 7 жыл бұрын
I like it! Shows how we sometimes we can over-engineer or overthink things. Great job!
@285runt
@285runt 8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the video mainly because I have learned so much from so many people, but dude! accidents happen. You should post pics of your stumps so we can have a good laugh.
@homesteadonomics
@homesteadonomics 10 жыл бұрын
Nice project! My table saw is almost that same model and have been wanting to do a project like this one for it. Thanks!
@petetheweet
@petetheweet 10 жыл бұрын
This took you a couple of hours? It would take me a week to make something like that and it still wouldn't even be square. Bravo.
@RC-Flight
@RC-Flight 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Cullen and if you did it as he does, you wouldn’t have any fingers left either 🤣
@4x4Moses
@4x4Moses 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've got the same problem with an inexpensive saw; and this gave me some great ideas on how to make it more useful.
@flatlandriver2471
@flatlandriver2471 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin wanted me to watch this🤷🏻 Now subscribed. For all those modern shop class graduates, realize that 1) this man isn’t just Canadian, he’s an East Coast Canadian, which means he’s three steps higher than Leprechauns on the magical “Crap don’t stick scale”. 2) before every shop class there’s a meeting between the teacher and the educational system legal team where the teacher runs the gauntlet while being beaten by weighty legal briefs while at the same time shouting, “I will teach safety, not carpentry! Woodworking machines are to be feared! I will CYA at all times! The law is more important than woodworking skills or independent thought!” PS. The most dangerous table saw is the one where the fence is not parallel to the blade.
@timsouthern4569
@timsouthern4569 9 жыл бұрын
What is with all of the negative comments have any of you ever worked on a site or are you all workshop based . although his hand were close to the blade I've seen men with there hands closer I think what you all should have been doing is giving positive feedback as he has made a great table saw for site work
@TWX1138
@TWX1138 7 жыл бұрын
You can't give thumbs-up if you don't have any thumbs.
@daviddavis5689
@daviddavis5689 7 жыл бұрын
Its a natural reaction to video showing unsafe practice.
@BDizzleMySchnizzle
@BDizzleMySchnizzle 5 жыл бұрын
@@TWX1138 Ahahahaha!!! Nicely done!
@hazeharrisoniii8254
@hazeharrisoniii8254 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@deebedwell580
@deebedwell580 5 жыл бұрын
TWX1138: Hey man, high five! Well, maybe a high three or something like that.
@PeteTwistedTrees
@PeteTwistedTrees 10 жыл бұрын
Don't need plans, the idea is what is needed so can work out the manufacture from that, and modify to suit any saw while doing it. One suggestion that would improve it, Use a strip of metal inset and glued to a piece of ply between the handscrew (bolt) and the side rail, it will give better purchase without knocking chunks out of the rail, would of course need a cage to hold it in place and allow it to float but as long as the fence is on the table then that's just a couple of end caps.
@pauleohl
@pauleohl 10 жыл бұрын
You saved me composing what you wrote. Each dent will oblige the screw to jump into that dent when he wants it 1/16 away.
@durlydurl
@durlydurl 9 жыл бұрын
Paul Ohlstein I agree with both of you, and an alternative to the metal strip is to install a 'foot' on the end of the handscrew bolt so there is more surface area pressing into the side rail, less likely to dent the side rail.
@richgreenejwrustictoolmanv9954
@richgreenejwrustictoolmanv9954 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that as well as soon as i saw all the little dents.
@juanrocha6432
@juanrocha6432 10 жыл бұрын
I think your fence idea is superb, i have been a carpenter for some years and your design is effective, keep doing nice work. Thank you.
@davidclinkbooks
@davidclinkbooks 10 жыл бұрын
Love the ingenuity here. I am a radial saw user because it doesn't have to move and so far I can do everything on it I can do on a table saw. I have used the table saw a great deal and constantly strugle with fences. Also I had to make a 58 degree cut recently that I could not do in one step with a table saw. Shame radials have fallen from grace for in small shops they are great.
@dtriniboss
@dtriniboss 8 жыл бұрын
Dude, your fingers and hands get dangerously too close to the saw blade. Don't be cheap or lazy get and use a push stick.
@johnnyLikeVideo
@johnnyLikeVideo 8 жыл бұрын
+David I was using it to show what not to do.
@GeneJordan
@GeneJordan 8 жыл бұрын
I'm with David. The starting few seconds of this video made me cringe.
@jeff-xy7qp
@jeff-xy7qp 8 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching after the cringe
@classic287
@classic287 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one. Your finger 1 inch away from the blade scared the shit out of me...
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I was cringing because a table saw took a chunk out of my left thumb back in the day. Glad to hear I'm not the only one!
@pepecohetes492
@pepecohetes492 9 жыл бұрын
Without reading your intro, the video gave me the creeps, no push stick and your fingers/hand were very very close to the wood! I am speechless...on the other hand the project is very nice, good work.
@eltonherrera572
@eltonherrera572 10 жыл бұрын
Got to handed to you, your fence system is very good. My old beaver saw broke, can't find an arbor for it, so now I got to build something like you got there... thanks for the sharing your video.
@DennisMathias
@DennisMathias 7 жыл бұрын
You have the nicest surface top I've ever seen! Amazing what you can do. Some manufacturer should look into these sort of jigs or make kits. Great job!
@btparker08
@btparker08 10 жыл бұрын
Wayne, glad to see you back. I've got a similar saw and this is definitely some much needed inspiration for me to get it dialed in. Are you going to route some miter slots in there? Thanks for all the great videos.
@jonathanjones691
@jonathanjones691 8 жыл бұрын
that moment at @0:20 when you ask yourself do i like my fingers attached.
@9q7a5z
@9q7a5z 9 жыл бұрын
Ok, your fence wins. After studying all of the fence videos I could, yours makes the most sense. My tired old saw is 22 years old but still performs pretty good. By following this video, it'll be good for another 22 years.
@neilforehand1121
@neilforehand1121 4 жыл бұрын
Got a cheap Craftman table top saw that I’ve had for close to 30 years. I’ve alway had problem getting the fence straight and not having room on top for larger cuts. You sir have solved both problems.
@jpk3582
@jpk3582 4 жыл бұрын
It's so scary how close his hands are to the blade
@NickedBlade
@NickedBlade 10 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what these saws need!!!! Great job!!!!
@steadfasttherenowned2460
@steadfasttherenowned2460 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for this video. My cheap saw has a top that has massive hills and valleys. Its impossible to square the blade 90⁰ to the table. This is exactly what I was looking for.
@jesushuerta1852
@jesushuerta1852 6 жыл бұрын
Judging by his shop, this guy is super experienced. I think all of you safety police will suffer an injury before he does. Great video.
@Gears.and.Gadgets
@Gears.and.Gadgets 9 жыл бұрын
Good video. Just some advice.. Your fingers were about a quarter inch away from the saw blade. You really need push sticks. Also you really need eye protection.
@alton7889
@alton7889 9 жыл бұрын
Man, scared the shit out of me when you were cutting that wood in the beginning. I was like, yeah, he doesn't want his fingers.
@rbruether5926
@rbruether5926 5 жыл бұрын
Alton Browne how do you change blades? Put in a dado?
@BillGoodman76
@BillGoodman76 4 жыл бұрын
Neat idea. I wish I had come across this video a few years ago. It would have saved me some frustration and money.
@rodw
@rodw 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. Looking forward to the crosscut sled video and I am a newbie to woodworking and noticed all the safety concerns comments so I hope you make a safety video. I say that because I didn't realize how close your hands got to the blade. Thank you for sharing your expertise and video, Rodney
@micheloderso
@micheloderso 10 жыл бұрын
I don't like the way you go so near with the fingers to the blade. It is a bad example! Your desk is very nice done also.
@dmak2
@dmak2 9 жыл бұрын
Price work.
@pocket83
@pocket83 10 жыл бұрын
The title says it all, and I don't understand all of the negativity. Plywood isn't gold-use it if you can. As for the safety critics, long sleeves are only a threat if there is a large blade cavity. That being said, you still keep your sleeves, head, hands, feet, tongue, and anything else that you would like to keep attached away from the blade.
@Woodentoolcompany2
@Woodentoolcompany2 10 жыл бұрын
We think alike lol
@iamjimgroth
@iamjimgroth 9 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see any safety critique so I can prevent mistakes. As the noob I am I need all the help I can get. :)
@jorgenlannock
@jorgenlannock 9 жыл бұрын
Wooden Tool Man make that 3 of us. although safety is important, when you hear some people, you shouldn't even own a woodshop.
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever you do, never do this 0:05. This idiot is going to lose his fingers one day.
@auomazaret3126
@auomazaret3126 6 жыл бұрын
The subjects covered in this woodworking website *TopFineWoodworking. Com* varies from wood types to tool types and uses. A few other subjects range from the various kinds of wood along with their distinct levels of difficulty when it comes to managing them. If you are still a beginner in wood working, then you will find this book very beneficial.
@Woodentoolcompany2
@Woodentoolcompany2 8 жыл бұрын
Here's a video showing a way better design for a homemade fence. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2eppIGEYqlqmq8
@mogbaba
@mogbaba 7 жыл бұрын
Look at Daniel's comment, please.
@nch658
@nch658 7 жыл бұрын
Wooden Tool Man
@1crazynordlander
@1crazynordlander 10 жыл бұрын
Nice Video and great idea. I had a cheap ryobi I gave to my son in law. It's dangerous. You made this one safer by doing this upgrade.
@Raised_by_God
@Raised_by_God 9 жыл бұрын
I like how you tossed those silly things away. I have the same problem with my Ryobi POS table saw it is twisting and shaking when I turn the saw on :(
@Aebvtivs
@Aebvtivs 8 жыл бұрын
+Jesus was a carpenter - I spent money on a Ryobi - assuming it was a good name, so the saw would be god quality too... How wrong I was. the fence is bent, so I use a longer aluminium 40 x 80 mm box as a straight edge. The blade is not square to the edge, nor parallel to the fence... (nor is the blade adjustable)...Going to make a top for the saw sometime soon.
@Raised_by_God
@Raised_by_God 8 жыл бұрын
Aebvtivs I sold Ryobi and now am a happy DeWalt Saw owner. Easy fix... thanks!
@robertdennis7774
@robertdennis7774 4 жыл бұрын
That's what you get for buying ryobi
@mnstar53
@mnstar53 9 жыл бұрын
Two words: push stick. Gave me shivers up my spine watching that.
@1hallonut
@1hallonut 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! This is the fix for our old saw. It's nice that my husband commented on how close your fingers were, lol He always scares me when he has his hands on the plywood, l could just picture the saw catching and sliding across the board, ouch!
@joshuab.3406
@joshuab.3406 5 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. I made this system for my Ryobi table saw. The way it is out of the box was crappy.
@Timthornton1
@Timthornton1 8 жыл бұрын
At 0:21 , is it just me or is his thumb a little close to the blade. Nice looking table, Take care.
@eipi5173
@eipi5173 8 жыл бұрын
My $129.00 ryobi table saw says thxs! And me too!
@TheJackPower
@TheJackPower 8 жыл бұрын
+Ei Pi My Ryobi is a piece of crap too and sure could use this upgrade. Thanks for the idea.
@TheWrinkledCheese
@TheWrinkledCheese 4 жыл бұрын
I opted to replace my saw this guy has with a 1970s Rockwell/Beaver for $80.
@hoperules8874
@hoperules8874 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for this!!! So many projects will now benefit!
@toyo2502
@toyo2502 6 жыл бұрын
Kudos... for your ingenuity... I have one of those and its as useless as can be...just bought a Hitachi Table saw because of the size of the table and the fence which locks both ends simultaneously...great idea!
@p.melvinshyturtle3722
@p.melvinshyturtle3722 8 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when you polish a turd, all you end up with is a shiny turd.
@JohnKirkwoodProFoodHomemade
@JohnKirkwoodProFoodHomemade 9 жыл бұрын
Push stick mate, Bad example for any kids who are watching.
@TheJagm80
@TheJagm80 9 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the long sleeves.
@TheGonzo1960
@TheGonzo1960 8 жыл бұрын
+John Kirkwood it's only a matter of time till he loses a finger
@Higgiebaby
@Higgiebaby 7 жыл бұрын
Then will he change his channel name to Stubby?
@aleksamaker8118
@aleksamaker8118 7 жыл бұрын
I am a kid and I can't believe how dangerous this is especially without a diving knife
@techtalk490
@techtalk490 6 жыл бұрын
John Kirkwood im his son and he is smarter then you think he is you should check out my you tube
@tomrudd1118
@tomrudd1118 8 жыл бұрын
I told myself the red stuff on your fingers was blood, from just non-stop working. It made the video even cooler.
@RobertGSolomon
@RobertGSolomon 5 жыл бұрын
I love your technical detail in explaining how you built the thingy that slides on that piece on top, lol
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 10 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm just curious (and this is just a *question*, not a declaration): What is the "how to" in quotation marks supposed to be for (in your estimation)? Is this not actually how to do it, but just figuratively, then, or...?
@TheSplinterShoppe
@TheSplinterShoppe 10 жыл бұрын
Its not an instructional video, he's just showing what he's done.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 10 жыл бұрын
Still, though, it doesn't have to be considered an instructional video in order for what's being shown to really be *how to* do it. So the quotation marks are pointless.
@TheSplinterShoppe
@TheSplinterShoppe 10 жыл бұрын
Most people see a "how to" video and immediately think step by step instructions, the quotes are just there to tell people that its not.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 10 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Well, while I guess I can see your point to some degree, I think people ought to be less robotic than to always assume "how to" means it's going to be detailed step by detailed step. So I still think the quotation marks are unnecessary and somewhat dumb there, but at least your guess for an explanation helps me understand a bit better. Thanks.
@alekshunter9226
@alekshunter9226 9 жыл бұрын
The Splinter Shoppe This video is an example of "how not to do." If this was a project handed in in an accredited industrial arts class, it would receive a failing grade due to utter disregard for universally accepted shop safety practices. Economically this project makes no sense as well, factoring in price of materials and amount of labor, it is much more cost effective in the long run to purchase a good used contractor's saw with a working fence. Or if money is that much of an issue look at a grizzly track saw system much more bang of the buck int he real world.
@davesmulders3931
@davesmulders3931 8 жыл бұрын
I know people who got away 20 years with the kind of stuff you pull off without pushsticks. They didn't make it to 21 with all 10 though. *Picks up a live table saw with the blade engaged and swings it around*
@imtoksik
@imtoksik 3 жыл бұрын
I got the exact problem with my cheap table saw, definitely going to try this, great job, and thanks for posting.
@danceanddreams1
@danceanddreams1 2 жыл бұрын
dont copy this kilingmachine
@mattfortepleaseleavemealon5072
@mattfortepleaseleavemealon5072 8 жыл бұрын
Thought I would save myself a few dollars and buy cheap table saw, there was a reason it was cheap !!! Now I am stuck with it, but like yours it works well, just the shit attachments so a top and fence like yours will be brilliant !!!! Thanks Wooden Tool Man Great video .....
@Woodentoolcompany2
@Woodentoolcompany2 10 жыл бұрын
Here is a link to a copy of this video that should have the stableization turned off Copy of "How To" Turn a Crappy Table Saw into a Good One
@saltyseascott
@saltyseascott 9 жыл бұрын
You're lucky you have a table saw from canada. I have a black and decker firestorm: I have abandoned all hope . . .
@PERSEUS550
@PERSEUS550 9 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy I have the same tool table saw, and I like to converted like yours now, or even I can purchase one from you buddy... how do you make the saw hole on the table and making sure the hole is in perfect alignment.?
@sfosnot85
@sfosnot85 9 жыл бұрын
CiakarElite you put the top on the saw and then raise the blade through it.
@mikedebruyn2195
@mikedebruyn2195 8 жыл бұрын
+Harold Ramirez Not cool, man. We don't come here to see your SPAM. Cut it out!
@Woodentoolcompany2
@Woodentoolcompany2 8 жыл бұрын
+Lupita Taylor this is a scam guys. Don't fall for it.
@mikedebruyn2195
@mikedebruyn2195 8 жыл бұрын
Watching this I saw a small (possible) problem. It looks as if the bolt is denting the side of the plywood. I can envision that in time it will become more difficult to use, or at least less accurate. Would it make sense to modify it so that there is some kind of shoe that the bold presses into the side of the plywood? I realize that it is cheap enough so that you can just trim it off and redo it, but that would seem to be a bigger deal than fixing it before it happens. I notice that you made this video over a year ago. Has it become a problem in that time. If not, then I guess my assumption is wrong. :)
@staticfive
@staticfive 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike De Bruyn While not a perfect solution, it's not going to make it less accurate. The true is going to come from the flat surfaces that point backward on the table, and point forward on the rip fence, so that part isn't so bad. As for the dents that it creates, it's obviously not going to last forever. As the wood compresses it will provide more resistance, but I would definitely see this causing problems at common dimensions!
@Phishyace
@Phishyace 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike De Bruyn I suppose you could add the shoe to it, or trim a long strip of flashing (or any1"ish length of metal) to adhere to the point of contact. Would certainly make the fence more usable for a longer period of time.
@LFL-qp1fg
@LFL-qp1fg 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike De Bruyn , I would think that it would be a problem after a year. It looks like he used a 3/8 or 1/2" bolt. If he has measurements close to another measurement the bolt will want to slide into the indentation closest to it.
@staticfive
@staticfive 8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Randall I would stick a little piece of thin sacrifice ply or metal in there so the force is distributed across a less important piece that can be replaced, and the clamping surface is a larger area. Problem solved!
@GilMichelini
@GilMichelini 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. That is the table saw I just bought from Harbor Freight but it is called Chicago Electric. Am going to try your ideas.
@garychandler4296
@garychandler4296 6 жыл бұрын
Basically a circular saw wearing a skirt, but you totally modded it. Lost my Rigid saw fence and the Ryobi 3000 I bought is nice, but way underpowered. The Rigid is gonna live again, and I thank you with TWO THUMBS UP!!!
@feliccieandorro408
@feliccieandorro408 8 жыл бұрын
my father, life long carpenter, (not a weekender rooky ) lost 3 fingers at age 54 because the fuc*** finger-pushing-thing ..... he was cutting a long board (6 ft long) and the bloody board HAD at the very end a embedded piece on metal (a nail or something) inside the composite material ... when the 10.000 rpm disk hit the nail, the board got out of control, and my father landed basically over the table with his hands ... the rest of the story it is easy to imagine ... he was adjusting doors in my new house ... so don't trust your precision ,ability or experience when using a powerful saw ... sorry my poor English ..
@lyricderbin1169
@lyricderbin1169 5 жыл бұрын
To each their oun
@lobitome
@lobitome 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the fault of the "pushing thing" or the saw.
@martinwoodworking
@martinwoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
That’s why there’s sawstop now
@stahpitt8531
@stahpitt8531 5 жыл бұрын
Tablesaw injuries are nasty, i'm sorry to hear that. My philosophy after cutting the tip of my pointer finger off from a dull aluminium fan blade, is that my fingers GO NO FUCKING WHERE NEAR THAT SPINNING BLADE OF DEATH. Tablesaws pull the material down and into the blade, meaning your entire hand can go into the blade if it doesn't make a cleave severe on your fingers initially. I swear i still get PTSd from fan blades now.
@jasond8734
@jasond8734 5 жыл бұрын
@Mike Martin SawStop? Hahaha this guy bought $150 table saw and built his own fence system. He wouldn't spend 4k on a SawStop if he was down to one finger.
@ImHereForPearlJamVid
@ImHereForPearlJamVid 8 жыл бұрын
perfect candidate for a SawStop.
@sidmalicious
@sidmalicious 10 жыл бұрын
Zero-tolerance? Zero CLEARANCE. Very nice. I stumbled onto this video, and I've been thinking about doing this since the coating on my table is trashed and I don't think I can calibrate the fence any more. I want to do it before I make a new SQUARE crosscut sled.
@Westsidewood
@Westsidewood 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I plan to try this system out on my old Ryobi.
@donaldeisenbarth5255
@donaldeisenbarth5255 8 жыл бұрын
Back in the day before OSHA no one knew what a push stick was. They had to be extra careful and skilled or they would be fingerless .
@dwovowb
@dwovowb 5 жыл бұрын
And now you can be careful and skilled and not have your wood working days end 10 years early by using proper safety equipment
@Dwinchester45
@Dwinchester45 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather cut his fingers so many times. Sometimes completely off sometimes just stitches and he would turn around look at me calmly n say "I did it again you wanna run and get the truck to go to the hospital, then grab a burger? " I'm going 😬🤢that was 20 years ago! Now there's more comments about cutting his fingers off than there are about the wonderful job he did with the table. We've gotten so soft!
@edwaggonersr.7446
@edwaggonersr.7446 4 жыл бұрын
"We don't need no stinking push sticks."
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great design since it can be built for any table saw. It solves the most important part of ANY table saw which is the rail system and the ability to maintain the fence parallel to the blade.
@bigray13579
@bigray13579 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting . as soon as I saw this video I knew I had to follow your lead. I picked up a saw from Craig's list for 50 dollars. But just like yours the fence really sucked . This mod made a huge difference on my saw. I now love it . Im also going to make a sled very soon . thanks again
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 8 жыл бұрын
Good Lord. First cut and his fingers were already really close to that blade.
@stethjackson3171
@stethjackson3171 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been rewatching this video hundreds of times, analyzing every single word that this dude utters, and I have yet to find the part where he says, “Okay now, after voluntarily taking time out of my life to produce this video for the benefit of others, I’d really like everyone’s opinions on whether or not I should use a GOD DAMN PUSH STICK.” Holy hell people, don’t you have shit to do? He clearly still has all 10 digits still intact... that’s not a coincidence. I’d say he knows what he’s doing.
@TheWrinkledCheese
@TheWrinkledCheese 4 жыл бұрын
But the children!
@n0ledge
@n0ledge 4 жыл бұрын
He got a cheap tablesaw. Funny things happens sometimes when cheap tools meet wood
@whoDatBeDare
@whoDatBeDare 5 жыл бұрын
Man! Could have saved me $1200Au + $150 repair after two years of hobby use on a completely over rated and rediculously expensive Dewalt DWE7491-XE. Well done!
@andreass.9398
@andreass.9398 4 жыл бұрын
For all three of my table saws that I've used over the years, starting with a beaver cast iron one to the craftsman one that I have now, I have always built my own table tops out of either a laminate cabinet pantry door or some nice maple plywood. I make slots for the T square for cut offs' and inlay a glue and stick measuring tape near front and near the back (which are available from Lee Valley). Then I use a 4' fence which is usually used with a skill saw and add a vertical board like 2 x 4 size to it. I line up front and back measuring tapes to make the cuts. The latest version I have a flip up table to extend cutting capacity from 3' to 4' width and am very happy with this home made and accurate version.
@nicholaswitter3039
@nicholaswitter3039 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video or plans for what you are describing in your comment?
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