How to Turn Your Loop into a Song - (6 Simple Steps)

[@jammadamma]

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[@EDMTips]

Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated, and I'll definitely consider it

[@EDMTips]

P.S. Please spread the word :)

[@jammadamma]

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[@SilonaMusic]

This video literally saved my life! As soon as I finished watching this I loaded up one of my 8 bar loops, and after a couple of hours I've finished its whole arrangement! That you for the inspiration!

[@EDMTips]

AWESOME!! Well done, and I'm glad I could help :)

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[@EDMTips]

Thank you for your kind words of support, really appreciate it!

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[@EDMTips]

Wow, thank you so much for your kind words of support 🙂🙌🏻

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[@orrinbynum5978]

Hi. I’ve been watching a lot of your video’s a lot lately along with video’s of Alex Rome. You both have given me different ideas to use in my own music that I have never thought about using before. I’ve always just played my own chords for my accompaniments. Now you have contributed ideas of helping my change how I am going to use new chords and rhythms in the future. I appreciate this very much. I’ve been a person that has had problems with finishing my songs. Now I have a learned a few new approaches to what I plan to do differently with some of my music. Thank you so much for sharing your ideas with you listeners and viewers. I wish you continued success with all of your projects in the future. Thank you again for sharing. Have a wonderful day.

[@SwagHyde]

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[@crushdesign]

Super Useful as usual. Please don’t add gimmicks or bells n whistles to your videos though. Simple clear explanations even when you get technical, thanks & Hell Yer.

[@by_antony]

I have written songs years ago, mostly strumming on guitar, with similar 'arrangements' as illustrated in this vid, but have recently become stuck when trying to do the same thing in my DAW. This video has helped and given me new avenues to explore.

[@EDMTips]

BOOM! 🙌🙌 😎 Glad you found it so useful!

[@dullastonishment]

16:42 I'm so glad you keep little quirky bits like this in.

[@sensei2451]

i've been watching tutorials since I can remember and you have the best ones I've came across. You're so chill and straight to the point I can listen to your tutorials all day. Keep up the good work!

[@EDMTips]

Thank you!! It's really nice to get words of support like this :)

[@yophosy5419]

Excellent - so many learning points and well presented without gimmicks.

[@EDMTips]

Thanks :)

[@kcbellis1575]

I am so glad I found this video. I have struggled getting out of an 8 bar loop for the past year! I feel like I can finally get making the songs I've wanted!! Thank you so much for all of your help!! I've subscribed to you as well. Thanks again, KC Bellis

[@EDMTips]

Glad it was helpful, and welcome aboard!

[@noamberger651]

So happy I've moved from Cubase to Abelton, thank you so much for your contant it's so good.

[@lostartone]

I appreciate your tutorials. Great work 👍

[@sivisvitamparamortem]

Not my style of dance music at all but this channel really gives good advice. Cheers.

[@noodlespooner]

This has probably been the best video I've seen as far as breaking out of the 8 bar jail-cell... pun intended! Thanks so much Will. Awesome as always!

[@EDMTips]

Robin Taylor awesome! Glad to help, and thanks for the support 👌😎

[@seasidepatio832]

I rarely watch youtube music production videos over 10 minutes but when I do it's always EDM tips! Hands down my favorite channel not just because of the content, but how concisely everything is explained (included the EDM tips courses) As always, well done Will! As you mentioned, it's so incredibly important to 1) not get caught up in a perfectionist attitude when writing or arranging 2) get your ideas laid out fast by consistently finishing tracks (run that faucet until it runs clear), and my personal favorite 3) using a reference track for arrangment/mixing/mastering/composition as you mentioned (pink noise for mixing is also a game changer). If I feel like I reached a wall after 30-60 minutes I'll take a break and come back to it later that day or the following day which usually fixes everything...no sense it trying/forcing to make something work. It's ironic that some of my favorite melodies/progressions etc. I wrote only took only a few minutes to make usually when I first sat down at the beginning of the session. Those were my major hangups, and now I've been able to finish tracks much faster (even if I only make the time to work on them a little bit each day), almost finish my first EP, and even got featured on a few channels by putting mostly what I learned from your channel/courses into practice. Thanks again! Shameless plug: open.spotify.com/artist/4rdRfwxYmZCRnpD4S2qCN9?si=utpNclQ4TPORo7u8C10HEg

[@EDMTips]

Thanks Brent! I really appreciated the support, and I'm really pleased I've managed to help in some way!! :)

[@polhomarkho5229]

Not into that kind of music but it's seriously the best video on this subject I've watched so far! Thank you for discribing everything, showing every mistake you make and how you solve them. It shows there's no magic and gives some confidence. Going back to ableton to try to finish a song and escape that f-ing loop 😁 thank you!

[@EDMTips]

You're welcome! Glad it helped 🙂

[@akolyth1]

This is IMHO the most helpful channel on EDM Producing on YT! Great Tips and Tricks, not with Tons of expensive Plugins, just how to do it in a straightforward and basic way! Please keep on with this tuts, this channel is outstanding excellent! Thank You!

[@Spaced_Invader]

You really make music writing enjoyable! Thank you!

[@EDMTips]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@rayderrich]

When a placeholder vocal line is the best I will ever get in my songs... But man thank you for showing us this workflow, I too have a bunch of song starters that never turned into an end result.

[@itsanthony1980]

Not just applicable to EDM! Great tutorial. Some brilliant take aways for me. Automation between sections, sectional pick ups hooks and releases, template song structures. Thank you.

[@EDMTips]

Glad it was helpful!

[@AngelAmbrosio2]

Thank you!

[@EDMTips]

You're welcome, glad you liked it! x

[@mimikoss]

great job great tutorial TY TY TY

[@EDMTips]

Thanks! :)

[@davidw789]

I loved this video, it's very helpful. I do have to laugh when you were jamming on the keyboard to make the riff though and you said "this key has lots of black notes in it so I'm flubbing" when in fact there's only 2 black keys in this key signature LOL

[@EDMTips]

What can I say... Humour is my thing! 😎

[@peteryoung9991]

amazing craftsmanship! Thank you.

[@ceberro5874]

wow i was just feeling so stuck with my current idea,and i found this gem thank you so much really aprreciate it

[@EDMTips]

Glad I could help!

[@davidcarter3976]

Make sure you share this with all your friends and family, that will appreciate this type of course... let's get this genius to a million subscribers quick!!!

[@Mohammad-ki8og]

Dude thank you I really learned a lot 💙💙

[@EDMTips]

You're welcome! 🙂 Anything else you'd like to see me cover in a video?

[@arnoldhilberink]

for the nonpiano players u can advise you a vst called scaler 2. even i still use it to get concepts down... keep up the good work, love your content

[@EDMTips]

Thanks for the tip!

[@deephousesh]

This is the best Ableton live channel!!!

[@EDMTips]

Thank you! Please spread the word :)

[@fingular]

BRILLIANT!!!

[@EDMTips]

Cheers!

[@RudeVinyl]

P.S The bank you were using to chose the chord sounds in sylenth1, they are okay, just for you to know (in case you didn't), they had added additional notes to the preset to make it as a chord, you can see them right under the Octave Box where it says "Note" just put them down to 0 (they are stated as steps) and you will have it in the right place. Great and helpful Video by the way!

[@EDMTips]

Ah, that explains it! Thanks :)

[@Clupea101]

Great stuff

[@jl9205]

Just what I needed! Thanks, Will.

[@EDMTips]

You're welcome! Glad to help :)

[@horacioivanlagos4181]

Hey man! your tutorials are really awesome!! i'm really inspired to learn more!! Thanks!

[@EDMTips]

Happy to hear that!

[@Bashanvibe]

This definitely helps in 2022 I was creating a loop to learn AL I was thinking about using a reference to finish the track!!! Let’s me know I’m on the right path!!!

[@EDMTips]

You’re welcome! Glad it was useful :)

[@jaritimonenmusic]

Awesome, thanks!

[@EDMTips]

You're welcome, Jari, thank you for watching and supporting the channel! 🙌🏻

[@fairplay8132]

@3:26....... INCORRECT SIR!!!!! Breakbeat is always cool, LOL.

[@EDMTips]

😆

[@johnvs7169]

Your videos are pure gold thanks a bunch.

[@EDMTips]

Glad you like them!

[@LagomorphaMusic]

Great tips! Thanks! I have a lot of tracks in that unfinished Loop-stadium. I will try your tips on them. :-)

[@EDMTips]

We all do! Glad it helped :)

[@betancourtmusic2458]

This channel is amazing!! It has helped me a lot 👍🏻 😎

[@EDMTips]

Awesome! Glad to help :)

[@fitvitstudiofitness8167]

Amazing content, thanks for sharing all that knowledge. I can´t wait to go back to the daw !!!

[@EDMTips]

Thanks, and you're welcome!

[@freymusictv7372]

Thank you

[@tranzfuse]

Fantastic tutorial, thanks so much for sharing your experience and knowledge with us. At the 7:00 minute mark you move the midi notes to the side of the clip with some keyboard shortcut, how did you do that? I can't figure it out with keyboard or mouse.

[@AlexDiru]

This is exactly what I wanted to see from content I've paid for (but didn't get it). I've been watching a few of your videos the past evenings and they are fantastic! So much out there covering how to make an 8 bar loop, but rarely do they tell you how to turn it into a song (which is far harder). I know you covered automation at the end, but it would be great to see a full video about how you can use lots of different automation techniques to make a song more interesting - maybe make this song ten minutes long with lots of different automations to keep interest. You may have done this (I will search), but I thought I might as well throw up a request ;)

[@EDMTips]

Thanks for the support Alex! Great idea for the video as well

[@Zeisslermusic]

I must buy the full version of ableton 11, i only have the lite version. Thanks for the video.

[@clifcody]

This was extremely helpful - thank you! And cool to see you do a little work in this genre, as well. I liked that opening riff, for sure

[@Rezu_42]

I really enjoy your Videos, especially your workflow and the techniques you use. Thanks a lot.

[@EDMTips]

Thanks!

[@lolsucks3599]

dude I love your music, I love your style. Do you offer any lessons? You are like the only music producer on youtube who is professional and who does tutorials and knows what he is doing cause you are very good at explaining things. And you dont only teach basic things like all the other youtubers, you teach advanced things what I am looking for cause I already am past the basics and I am at an advanceder stage now than the basics.

[@DaBeatsFreak]

Aweome 🙌🏾.

[@EDMTips]

BOOM! 🙌🙌

[@harisalibasicphd]

Love these tutorials. They are super helpful, as I struggled to switch over from Logic Pro X to Ableton 11. Amazing work. Thank you.

[@ajb7899]

I've just looked into this channel, having previously overlooked it (due being an EDM snob, sorry!) and it's great. Definitely learned plenty from this video and will be checking out loads more. Some great arrangement tips here that I will definitely be using. Thanks!

[@EDMTips]

Awesome! 😎

[@MusicKarll]

You are amazing!

[@PavanSibal]

Awesome video Will!!!

[@EDMTips]

Thanks Pavan!!!

[@djsaulbliss]

me flying by just for a helllll yeeeah!

[@EDMTips]

😎🙌🙌

[@tarantula_7u863]

"Let's get crackin'!" is what I say when I get a new plug-in...

[@takhetabyo871]

wow i learned a lot from this video. I hope u keep making such good videos

[@EDMTips]

Thank you, I will

[@darrenjames2579]

Really enjoyed this tutorial, will be having a crack at this in the week!!!!!

[@EDMTips]

Awesome! Let me know how you get on

[@djernanifusion]

Beautiful song!!!!

[@EDMTips]

Thank you! I think I'll finish it :)

[@nicklebon516]

awesome

[@EDMTips]

Thanks!

[@Multi-Waves_Music]

Itsssssss baaaaaack!!!

[@EDMTips]

I've been ill,... 😷 Back in the game now!

[@Multi-Waves_Music]

@@EDMTips glad you've recovered!

[@Multi-Waves_Music]

@@EDMTips though what I was referring to was, this video was uploaded 2 days ago then immediately taken down, what was with that?

[@EDMTips]

@@Multi-Waves_Music Oh, right! Yeah, there was a copyright issue as I was using a reference track. I muted it and re-uploaded!

[@EDMTips]

@@Multi-Waves_Music Thanks!

[@shindo6771]

really helpful

[@cristianvonsparr]

This video is fucking amazing!

[@EDMTips]

Glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@AnonYmous-cd9pc]

Thank you for the video mate. All your videos are great and very helpful. Why don't you have a Twitter or am I just blind?

[@EDMTips]

You're welcome! 🙂 I do have a Twitter: twitter.com/edmtipsofficial

[@AnonYmous-cd9pc]

@@EDMTips Cool followed. And I'm blind.

[@dalejason]

Excellent tutorial will 👍 I need to progress to the session view. Where were you getting the vocal stems from ?

[@EDMTips]

Thanks! I got these from Splice.com

[@EDMTips]

Do you just use clip view at the moment?

[@dalejason]

EDM tips pretty much, I use push 2 to launch clips and arrange live... I need to get to grips with working in arrangement view.

[@EDMTips]

@@dalejason You can record your clip-launching sequence into arrangement view which should make things easier and quicker

[@theinfideluk]

Nice tutorial! At 14.00 why did you turn warp on and off and reset the segment BPM? I've not saw anyone do this before, can there be issues with auto-warp otherwise?

[@EDMTips]

I've found that to be the case, yes

[@ameer6168]

Can you make a tutorial on how to prepare your track for mixing. Like stems nd other things please ❤️

[@EDMTips]

Great idea!

[@ameer6168]

@@EDMTips thanks❤️😊 nd video on how to avoid phase cancellation nd how to make your track mono compatible will be good too

[@BohmontMusic]

Awesome, wheres the finished track? And what reverb have you used here?

[@marciano21]

Always 1st league content ! Like to watch it

[@markostanley]

Great tutorial. I’ve watched a bunch of yours recently and they are all so good. One question - do you never use Session view? Would it not be helpful for experimenting with playing clips into arrangement live? That’s the workflow I use. Each to their own I guess. Keep up the great work.

[@MrJmhess77]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@EDMTips]

Appreciate it! 🙌🙏

[@patrykandeshorzechowski6467]

10:30 why you pulled notes up, if you were in G maj scale and the C maj7 chord should look like C E G H? (sorry if I'm wrong, my music theory is still not the best) 16:47 Sylenth1 - what do you mean that the sound is in the wrong key? Pozdrawiam z Polski 🇵🇱

[@EDMTips]

What’s your biggest struggle in music production? Is it arrangement, sound design, mixing, mastering? Let me know in the comments below and I’ll do my best to help! 🕺

[@Multi-Waves_Music]

I'm getting better but melodies, they just don't radiate any of the emotions I am trying to convey

[@EDMTips]

@@Multi-Waves_Music Is it just one or two notes that don't hit the spot, or the whole melody?

[@djfatech]

I Waiting for you to create the "start to finish". I really like your techniques to produce music.

[@EDMTips]

@@djfatech www.edmtips.com/products/start-to-finish/start-to-finish-sp1/

[@djfatech]

@@EDMTips Ohh Tks my friend!

[@diegocalbo]

It´a Shame, we are from Argentina, we can´t buy your bundle, but you rock

[@EDMTips]

I think you can buy it if you're from Argentina...there shouldn't be any restrictions. Thanks for the support, though! :)

[@Y0nex]

Also sometimes a sound is what inspires you to create an arrangement therefore if you pick a placeholder lead you might not be inspired to continue it in the first place, So is picking sounds crucial at the beggining to certain extent? And in general why essentially it is important to work quickly and finish songs quickly ?

[@EDMTips]

To the first point: absolutely! Depending on your inspiration, your workflow will switch around. To the second: because the more songs you finish, the better you get, and the less likely to are to never finish them.

[@Y0nex]

@@EDMTips i see, Thanks! Btw Could you recommend some more similar videos in this topic on other channels you know aswell? Btw what would you do in a situation where the sound selection is a crucial part of the arrangement for example certain drum samples that give texture to a song and if you use a placeholder it might completely be changed to a different song later on since the drums can sometime dictate where the song is going? Same goes for instruments, if you pick a harsh sound for a melody and build the arrangement around it, you might later on want a softer sound for the same melody and it can completely change the context of the arrangement, Or sometimes even when it comes down to mixing as you go, if you won't mix as you go it might change the context afterwards,Would glad to hear your opinion on those kind of situations, Also would really appreciate to see a series from you of which you breakdown other musicians song's arrangement structure mixing, etc , Have a good day!!

[@EDMTips]

@@Y0nex That's a lot of questions! Here I go: 1. Just KZbin search - there are a few 2. Then I would adjust my workflow. It's never exactly the same for each track. 3. This is why having an idea of the direction of the track early on makes life a lot easier. Doesn't always work out that way, but I wouldn't start the arrangement until the vibe and idea was solid enough to know it wasn't going to drastically change. 4. Good idea! Thanks for the suggestion :)

[@Y0nex]

@@EDMTips you're welcome, Thanks for answering!

[@EDMTips]

@@Y0nex No problem :)

[@statelis]

Is this an Axiom Pro in the background?

[@Theumpsken]

Subscribed :)

[@EDMTips]

Welcome!

[@darrenjames2579]

After working my way through this tutorial (which was a god send!) I got to thinking would it be possible to make a video called 'EAR CANDY', maybe a follow on from this tutorial or a completely different one, just concentrating on where and when best to use effects (Tips & tricks), risers, snare rolls, subtle detail sounds, automation, silence, atmosphere & auto filters etc.etc. Basically just more info and detail like the last 8mins of this video?? Cheers (this would be good fun to do another image like your eyes for the Pink Noise vid!!)

[@EDMTips]

We go DEEP into ear candy in the 8-week Masterclass

[@darrenjames2579]

Excellent!!!!!

[@jeffreynabity9560]

@@EDMTips Is there still a Masterclass on this?

[@csselement]

Turning loop into song starts around 21:00

[@jonho.2112]

a-ha i saw some Reason projects on your list, so you use Reason also, that's the one I am learning. what do you think of Reason for EDM? is it worth changing to Ableton or some other?

[@EDMTips]

I LOVE Reason. I switched before they allowed 3rd party plugins, as James Wiltshire told me I needed 3rd party plugins. He was right. However, now you can use them in Reason. The other thing that does my head in is that you can't zoom the interface. On a big screen, everything is so small it strains my eyes. Not sure if they've sorted that yet.

[@newday6211]

Somehow you managed to go out of G minor scale by going to G Major chord... how common is that? what are the technics? and is it same as accidental notes or it's different?

[@MichaelJohnMUSlC]

Where did you get the drum loops?

[@sivavenkatamanikantaputta7682]

Sir can u explain sidechaining pls

[@EDMTips]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGPUqYyInqxoq5Y

[@rebazkh85]

Just add scale plug in on to your truck and put it on E and just play your white keys, and you don't have to deal with black keys.

[@EDMTips]

Good tip!

[@ZachOry1985]

Some Loops also in the song 'About Big Bounds and Magnum Rounds' 🎵

[@juanconsuegra5633]

why can´t I have access to your site..? It says Access Denied.

[@EDMTips]

No sure, Juan. If you're still having an issue, please email me at [e-mail] and we'll try to sort it out for you.

[@arczy6215]

I know this video is older but does anyone know if you can do something like putting the notes for the specific scale and then folding so only those notes are visible in fl studio?

[@Bronwyn031]

Don't know about FL but YES you definitely can in ABLETON LIVE 11.

[@davidw789]

I know your comment is very old at this point but yes, FL studio has a way to only show notes on the piano roll which are in the key you're working in. Hopefully you googled that and already figured that out by now lol

[@x2w509]

everytime I manage to make a song I come watch one of your videos and realize how rubbish mine is haha

[@EDMTips]

Keep learning and practising! You'll get there sooner than you think. Just try and write a track a week (or at least every two weeks)

[@GoodxJ]

👀

[@EDMTips]

🙌🏻

[@yophosy5419]

In ableton you can use a tool that forces all notes into a key

[@EDMTips]

In Ableton 11, yes indeed

[@yophosy5419]

@@EDMTips Scale is in 8 on as far as I recall.

[@devom2069]

Where do You download The vocals? Are those free?

[@EDMTips]

Check out splice.com

[@danhill9534]

What is the song at the beginning in the background???

[@Bronwyn031]

All songs you hear are Will's own productions or one of his students. :)

[@nyxmt539]

What’s the difference between 8O8 and bass ?

[@EDMTips]

In this instance, the 808 is more of a percussive bass to give the kick more power, so in effect; I have two basses.

[@nyxmt539]

EDM tips do we use it a lot in EDM ?

[@EDMTips]

@wwfokc Yep...needs to be treated carefully! I suppose my bass channel in this isn't REALLY bass (so the 808 is giving most of the low energy)

[@buriedbones-nh9xr]

The music industry is probably the most tryhard industry on the planet rn

[@tonymcgivern]

Where is the link for the sheet?

[@EDMTips]

IN the description of the video, Tony

[@tonymcgivern]

I don’t see it?

[@pirouzhamed6505]

best

[@UNDEFEATED7000]

👍🏻

[@nicestar2198]

Making a loop a song. Have a aim. Once you create a loop of a beat have a aim do you want it to be pop or r&b ? Choose that first before moving forward. And just have an general idea for the loop before making the song. Add other loops to the loops to make the loop sound more complete. See what works play around with premade loops To make a chord skip a note and place a note within the key of your song If you use vocals for your song find ones that is in your key like "g minor" or whatever and adjust the tempo if it doesn't match the loop Or create your own vocals for your loop and build the song from that Then you can move that track to the back and work on the intro

[@EDMTips]

Great summary, thank you!

[@mmoth1784]

if i want your feedback, how should i do? can u tell me email address? if not, tell me something can replace it?

[@EDMTips]

I only offer it during my 8 Week Masterclass, as I get so many emails requesting it every day: www.edmtips.com/masterclass

[@davidcarter3976]

To add to the pinned comment you had up there, you know old frank Kern there, we'll get you as many subscribers has u ever wanted. Keep in mind I have zero affiliation I just want to help you. You might start by watching his interview with Anthony Robbins to understand his credibility. Keep in mind he will teach you for free on KZbin, or you can pay his agency and they will flood you with subscribers, that way it doesn't take up your time.

[@EDMTips]

Thanks for the heads up, David, I will check him out :)