Im no coach but one tip i would give this kid is keep looking the ball even after hitting it so it stables your head and inreturn your body so that your shoulderframe rotates after you rotate your head which is the very last action of your forehand , this tip helped me a lot hope this helps someone else too
@ildarb8135 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mr. Mouratoglou. This was a very important lesson!
@joezhou60135 ай бұрын
Keep shoulder close and hands closely together will help hitting hand swings a bit early. Every player has different issue to be worked on. Patrick is a great coach to tailor the needs of players
@trex14484 ай бұрын
This isn't what you would most people watching this video btw. Beginners who are not familiar with energy chain need to learn to hit the ball in front of them and not to the side. This kid is already at a level where he doesn't need to worry about the energy chain so he's being taught to be balanced in his swing and to use his hand to accelerate through the ball which will not only generate more control but also spin, and power. Beginners and intermediate people need to develop the coordination to be able to involve their entire body and not just the hand, arm, shoulder, torso, hips, legs, etc..
@huangwee34655 ай бұрын
Best instruction. Patrick. Most other coaches teach using body and hip turn to drive the arm hence ball with reason to create lag: my experience was that it creates chaotic coordination between arm and shoulder hence no control and power.
@lanaorg5 ай бұрын
And they are right...
@adi.245 ай бұрын
You should view this lesson from the boys perspective he is swinging is hips too early which creates too much lag that it loses power and its just hands , patrick is telling him to move the hands early so that it would be the ideal lag
@youknowwho92475 ай бұрын
It's funny how tennis has changed. When I was a kid, coaches (who themselves tended to have learned with wooden rackets) taught a completely different movement. Stiff wrist, hips move first, power comes from torso rotation, not the arm. It's nearly the exact opposite to what's state of the art today.
@lanaorg5 ай бұрын
that's because this guy is a good businessman and not-so-good tennis coach, he has no idea what he is talking about. you exactly described how it is supposed to be and still have to be today
@ZoltanOficial4 ай бұрын
@@lanaorg not sure whether Serena would like to have a businessman as a coach than man who knows his job
@andyv62994 ай бұрын
Which is correct teaching then
@tkdive47844 ай бұрын
You see a contradiction where there is none. Of course, most of the power comes from the legs and then from the hip rotation. The difference from the past is that the whole body is now important, whereas it used to be mainly the arm. What was primarily worked on in this video is improved stability and control (open stance, more stable upper body), as well as improved technique (more guidance with the arm). This was not (direct) training for more power, but only through stability can power develop.
@lanaorg4 ай бұрын
@@ZoltanOficial he began coaching her in the summer of 2012, she didn't grow as a player with him, he pays her a contract, so his academy is associated with her name
@Daća_jbt5 ай бұрын
Best trainer/teacher…
@anyssaadi46764 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your lesssons you allowed to broadcast. Very insightfull.
@carloacilo2422 ай бұрын
9:27 gold 🙌🏾
@sugebzzy20384 ай бұрын
thanks, coach. See you soon!!
@agradina4 ай бұрын
Use only ur hand the greatest advice ever given in tennis.
@xupac13795 ай бұрын
i am confused. thought you initiate the kenetic chain from foot hip to arm which is coming along for the ride. he seems to say you are initiate kinetic chain with hand first to have more stability?
@adi.245 ай бұрын
Hand and then wrist is still the last point in kinetic chain, the boy is moving hips too early and then body is already turned so there is less power and boy is just hitting with hands, so patrick is telling him to move the hands early from what he was doing before so that hands move with the body and not after the body has turned
@harryo61265 ай бұрын
I just watch Alcaraz forehands in slow motion, and he does 100% precisely completely the opposite of what the coach is saying here. Alcaraz start the movement with his legs, the energy blasts up through the hips into torso into his shoulders then finally into his arm creating a bazooka. So I am baffled by this video.
@joris52585 ай бұрын
I was going to comment exactly that😅
@tehatte5 ай бұрын
Two different styles. Two different ways of generating power: one with mainly arm/hand/wrist and the other with adding body/hip/legs. I’ve seen a lot of modern coaches prefer the second style while this coach looks like he prefers the first style.
@rgx44405 ай бұрын
look better, shoulder arrive after he push with the body but the shoulder close after all the rest, before shoulder it's the ankle moving forward at the height of the hand indeed, so teaching use the hand close to the body and mantain firmly you shoulder back, is teaching use the ankle in short terms
@boyzone50005 ай бұрын
I think patrick is trying to isolate his forehand issue and get the basic movement/direction correct. Obviously if he werre coaching a more experienced player, i’m sure he would start to teach the full Body motion/transfer. Tbf, this is how I fixed my forehand :)
@appighio5 ай бұрын
@@boyzone5000 i agree 100%
@patrickmouratoglou_official5 ай бұрын
What technical adjustments have improved your forehand the most?
@thealpha49665 ай бұрын
Early preparation, and gaining more power and speed through the wrist
@t-daze5 ай бұрын
Perhaps if the arm is weak, then using the whole body from a coiled position gives more power to the forehand, although control may be sacrificed 30% of the time.
@717DTran5 ай бұрын
When the ball bounces on your side of the court, the preparation is done. Both feet planted on the ground ceiling on head . Left hand to coil and keep distance from the ball, opening it w the chest only after contact w the ball
@mistal855 ай бұрын
I understand the concept of fast racket head speed loose arm and wirst with solid basen. But i would like to hear more about the pressure on fh during contact. Can it be that i loose control being to loose with the grip during the contact with the ball?
@paulose195 ай бұрын
Whenever I am hitting the ball all over the place I tell myself - eyes on the ball, move your feet and hit the ball in front of you.
@dollybuddhabhati5 ай бұрын
Great lesson for my kid thank you 👌🏻
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@chrischang21184 ай бұрын
Yeah you guys are all right
@yusufazeem22742 ай бұрын
Sir, I greatly follow up on your videos but need help. Firstly I find it really difficult to generate power with my semi-western grip, it gives me good success returning the ball due to its spin but no power. If I switch to the eastern grip, I have more power on my flat shots but most of my balls go out of the box. Secondly, I keep breaking rackets and sincerely don't know why. In 3 months, I have broken 3 rackets and cut 8 stings using my less powerful semi-western grip, it's becoming too expensive for me but I'm just unable to stop it sir. I'd really appreciate your advice and assistance sir.
@julius.h99865 ай бұрын
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND LEARN THAT HOW I DO TEACH KIDS NOT ONLY A TENNIS BUT ALSO A WAY OF LIFE
@samenthaAnyie-ii3ql5 ай бұрын
hi patrick i have a question who is roping the tennis racket of most player in atp tour
@mistal855 ай бұрын
Can anyone advise about the grip pressure during contact with the ball when the game has slower pace? Loose arm,loose wirst, solid base but what about the grip during contact point.
@adi.245 ай бұрын
Keep it similar through-out the stroke if you are beginner pressure like3-4/10 once you start to get the feel of it then you will automatically adjust your grip pressure according to the shot you are going to play like when is lob i would increase my pressure a very little bit like from 3 to 3.5 etc
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I'm mostly into cricket betting there. My brother's tips have been spot on. How about you, got any favorite bets
@rachanonkhammuang72475 ай бұрын
thank you
@AndrewHelgeCox4 ай бұрын
Why do you change the biomechanics of hitting a particular shot based on the dominance of a person's eyes? Surely one body arrangement is most efficient and effective? Is it not within the capabilities of the human brain to adapt and is it therefore, not best to stay in the biomechanically optimal position even if the brain takes longer to adjust to it If it relies on the non-dominant eye to track the ball from that optimal body positioning?
@adhistyamanda33834 ай бұрын
Hi coach, I just want to ask about the dominant eye. I tried your method, when I see an image inside the triangle, I can see it with my both eyes, but I can see it clearly with my right eye, & it's blurred with my left eye. Then Is my right eye dominant?
@yuxi40832 ай бұрын
Try with a smaller triangle
@hoanglinhofficial80175 ай бұрын
Thank u so much
@adamvang-d9c3 ай бұрын
How much do you charge for coaching?
@rdvanbayburt59055 ай бұрын
34 / 5.000 Congratulations. It could be better.
@ujiffy695 ай бұрын
People commenting like one lesson can change everything this kid has been doing wrong technically. Will take more than one lesson or even months to correct these things.
@Wu_32 ай бұрын
do you mean the lead shoulder closed?
@kimlengtay495 ай бұрын
how can I check my dominant ear?
@hagacreative25845 ай бұрын
just tested my dominant eye, i think it's 50:50, is that possible? 😮 I still can see with both my eyes even though it moves a little bit.
@SiNk0r5 ай бұрын
Try making the "triangle" that you view through smaller. I had the same issue, it seemed 50/50 until I made the hole much smaller and it was clear that the right eye was dominant.
@hagacreative25845 ай бұрын
@@SiNk0r thanks! it works!
@cattyDesigns5 ай бұрын
Sir how much you charge for coaching
@Emolga62745 ай бұрын
Fity cent
@atticusbeachcruise86575 ай бұрын
he charges an arm and a leg ($7500)
@YoTennis5 ай бұрын
I like the instruction of throw your racquet
@lucc4214 ай бұрын
this is amazing ! kid must be happy as hell lol
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@mikechan2315 ай бұрын
What I don’t understand is when I initiate the swing with my “hand” or arm, and not my hips and body, my racquet face opens and the ball is gone long.
@tennisjourney5 ай бұрын
If he got a hold of Meddy as a kid we would not have the legend of the Octopus as he is today 🐙
@watcher6875 ай бұрын
No matter how hard Patrick tries to make the kid to whip with the hand only, he can’t do it because he’s so used to swinging the whole arm the WTA style. Not easy stuff.
@CurtDawg005 ай бұрын
Happens a lot with kids when they get forced to use too heavy of a racquet too early. Curious what weight he's using.
@watcher6875 ай бұрын
@@CurtDawg00 90% of WTA players hit like that.
@bigchainring19775 ай бұрын
Because it's REALLY hard to unlearn a basic concept..his stroke already looks pretty cemented..
@Zz-yomomfugazzi5 ай бұрын
Pafessa!
@Funny_memez-un9jb5 ай бұрын
This is like asmr irl with AirPods
@RickRozen-mn4rl4 ай бұрын
In order to effortlessly complete a balanced upper torso rotation and follow-through, with the intention of following momentum, the right hip will usually rotate, finishing in front of the left hip. Whether open or closed stance. I may be wrong but I'm not. It can be practiced consciously and then it becomes part of your sub-conscious muscle memory repertoire, Sub-conscious, not unconcious because it can be explained. Don't believe, consider and look for this quality in all of the best players. You can't know too much and we all know too little. If you understand this, you will become a better player by some unknown %. 🙊🙈🙉🐵🤪☯️
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@aaditya27585 ай бұрын
I have a question why you hit with your arm bent instead of full extension as there is loss of power in it
@geminguming30165 ай бұрын
If you look at an analysis of Jannik Sinner's forehand, he contacts in a bent elbow position, and he has one of the largest forehands on tour. It's more about loading the body to create racket head speed than how straight the arm is.
@absolutelynothingtoseehere5 ай бұрын
@@geminguming3016 Mouratoglou is a big advocate of full arm extension; he gives Djokovic a slight criticism for failing to do that, but points out he can't with his extreme grip.
@クリームイカ5 ай бұрын
you are simply a disappointment
@direwolf5255 ай бұрын
The full extension will only lose mobility for the swing that's why also you don't swing out with full extension that's wrong
@Emolga62745 ай бұрын
Nobady in pro tennis today uses full extension . Federer and nadal were the last 2
@bbcszone15 ай бұрын
Actually on the forehand you do need to move your chest before your hand starts moving so...
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@DiegoArtolaCopywriting5 ай бұрын
This exercise dropping the ball so slowly I can't do it, impossible for me.
@jasonhutchinson80604 ай бұрын
He moves his head with his shoulders as he is about to come into contact with the ball. Keep your head still and feet stable, using the hips and wrist to generate power and spin, not shoulders.
@ffhhhbbfxfggggfdddffffffff5 ай бұрын
i find it very weird that tennis has always come so natural to me, it's not like i'm a pro or anything but i'm very consistent and never got any training or nothing didn't even get to play much growing up other than gym class its been like 7 years since i last played and i hit the court lately and still with me 100% wish my family would have had me in some league when I was real young so i could be playing pro nowadays its so much fun and itf I could have had a future in it I would have pursued it to the max everyday
@jazz191015 ай бұрын
This is the exact opposite advice most experts would give. They would say the swing starts with your feet pushing off the ground which causes your hips to rotate then your shoulders than lastly your arm and racket. They call this sequence of events the kinetic chain. Patrick thinks it is the opposite. I have tried using just my arm just like most beginners do and the results are horrible. It is almost impossible to hit with power and accuracy consistenly by hitting with just your arm. How many pros do you see standing sideways to the net and just move their arm? None! To say your body follows your arm at the end of the swing is not accurate.
@Emolga62745 ай бұрын
Kinetic chain is nonsense
@SiNk0r5 ай бұрын
It's a cue specific to the kid, to address his issues. Obviously, you wouldn't give that same cue to a beginner who just started playing and doesn't know how to intuitively use their body. The kid has the exact opposite problem, he opens his chest and hips too fast so that mental cue helps to keep that in check. Even with that cue, the kid struggles to apply it properly in a lot of the shots. It's hard to unlearn solidified techniques. Similarly, the "kinetic chain" concept is to help hammer down the idea of the FH being a full body movement, that involves the feet, hips, shoulders and body weight transfer. The arm will always lead the upper body during contact though since you are supposed to make contact in front you. They're all different ways to explain similar concepts so don't get hang up on details, but try to look at the bigger picture of Patrick is trying to fix.
@ralelunar3 ай бұрын
Why are you comparing a pro to a kid? A kid needs to first develop their racquet control and then they can worry about what gives them the most power.
@ilahikomedya72342 ай бұрын
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@johannkriz51385 ай бұрын
Closed stance till point of contact???? Unbelievable!!
@hegthebrave94244 ай бұрын
Having my wrist loose gave me tendinitis. I don’t think you should teach that to a kid, probably will have overuse injuries.
@nasu680004 ай бұрын
Your wrist should be loose at all times. It was most likely a mother aspect of your stroke that gave you your tendinitis.
@Lazyschoolstudent4 ай бұрын
Ok
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@jeramyeswan40144 ай бұрын
these students hits a million forehands and unconsciously finds something that works. your advice can confuse the students, your forehand advice has to be proven in actual hitting. Time required for preparation and power delivery has to be proven in actually hitting.
@MrFrescocotone5 ай бұрын
I feel he hits the ball a bit too close to his body
@memegang35245 ай бұрын
@AnnaBortion-pq9oo just being an average guy doesn’t mean his thoughts are wrong. Being close to the body is a personal thing but I agree it could be further away. But there were more pressing issues to fix
@MrFrescocotone5 ай бұрын
@AnnaBortion-pq9oowaht a rude and obnoxious comment
@Emolga62745 ай бұрын
@AnnaBortion-pq9oolol I think Serena would of won either way
@Keepontruckin19045 ай бұрын
Thank God they recorded it. That lesson cost the kid $7,500. Sadly there’s a bunch of technical flaws that never got addressed. Just “use your hand”. Sure let’s go with that today. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@TaeNyFan5 ай бұрын
If his parents can afford it, 7.5k is probably peanuts for them.
@kutayfunk5 ай бұрын
omg just one lesson is 7500$?
@pencilcheck5 ай бұрын
Usually they pay for multiple lessons and facility and hitting partners and multiple coaches. This is just one shot for marketing purposes
@djuksar5 ай бұрын
Acctualy i believe that this lesson was free for the kid becouse it is uploaded to youtube i think Patrick said something like that in an interview
@andmansano5 ай бұрын
Stop nagging about the price and enjoy the free video.
@mirianbauto60235 ай бұрын
Patrick's piece is unbelievably absurd. The left hand leads the torso and shoulder rotation and is not pushed😊 by the right hand.😊
@Gabriel-fe5wc5 ай бұрын
Patrick knows that the torso and shoulder rotation is not pushed by the right hand, but if you look at the kid hitting forehands at the beginning, his chest is way to open, facing forward and even to the left fence when making contact. Telling the kid to lead his rotation with his right hand and not his left is the easiest way to get him to keep his chest closed and body balanced when hitting the ball. it means he will start rotating as he hits the ball instead of fully rotating and uncoiling before even making contact like he was doing at the start
@direwolf5255 ай бұрын
@@Gabriel-fe5wc then he should teach him to use of the left non-dominant hand so that the correct shoulder turns happen,
@Emolga62745 ай бұрын
So how many players have u coached to 20 grand slams ?
@andrewkyau5 ай бұрын
It’s because he has a large backswing and that’s why he needs to lead with the hand first. If his take back was shorter and technically sound, he should be leading with his rotation (hips).
@nktcp69085 ай бұрын
I always feel like Patrick is 10 misses and a hit with his coaching. Type Slow Motion ATP forehands court level. Dimitrov, Sinner, Alcaraz, Djokovic, Nadal. Show me at least one ATP player that has a good forehand do what Patrick teaches you. In fact you'll see the complete opposite - they all start their rotation/motion from the legs and hips. The legs are unloading, hips turning along with the shoulders and this is what creates natural wrist lag and power. The "hitting" shoulder is almost always in front of the non-hitting shoulder and gets there before the arm. It's completely the opposite of what we see taught here. That's a good way of killing forehand power, bravo Pattrick. You also contradict yourself - aren't you teaching in one of your other videos to step into the shot slightly? To generate power with your body weight? There are ways to "stabilise" this kid's forehand, without teaching him that he should generate the power with his arm only. And since your audience are also beginners, congrats on making them think that the power comes from the swing of the arm only. On a final note, who the f teaches to rotate your body, after the shot. WHAT?
@massimodanzelmo46074 ай бұрын
You have a point there, hitting a forehand with only arm power won't get you very far, the after math body movement has no sense
@tkdive47844 ай бұрын
Take another look at the student's strokes. And then be honest in evaluating the movements. You will find that the student has exactly the movements you described and required. The student's mistake was not the lack of power, but the lack of stability to bring both his power and control onto the court. If the student first uses their legs and then the hips, it's not necessary to point that out, and the coach recognized that. Instead, the coach is tasked with improving the individual weakness with as few interventions as possible (ideally just one). With another student, the approach would be completely different. But not because the student should do anything differently, but because every person and every tennis player is unique. The real skill lies in identifying the right lever for the individual.
@nejcnovak80544 ай бұрын
But brainwashed peasants are very happy with this 😂😂😂😂😂 Top charlatan lol
@stevebee926532 ай бұрын
I hope Mr.Mouratoglou isn't charging this kid too much for his tips. He's putting a governor on this kid's shoulder by reducing his right shoulder drive. Not a good idea.
@Jonathan-mp3ju3 ай бұрын
The kid is taking his racket too far back. When he plays against better players that play with more pace, this big swing will hurt him.
@sapientbudgie56525 ай бұрын
What a waste. Patrick is delusional. Crap advice all over the place.
@torzakaria54235 ай бұрын
2nd
@tarunkumarreddy82955 ай бұрын
How to unlock the full potential of your forehand? Ans:)Simple,stop listening to patrick and you will get rid of the bullshit
@ozziiik5 ай бұрын
B ig mistake from Moratoglu with hand first!
@GeneralRock1145 ай бұрын
Who has he actually developed and don’t say Serena. Answer: No body. So, why is he even mentioned as a coach and why do people send kids to his academy????
@swpark12005 ай бұрын
1st
@yuetchuen5 ай бұрын
He knows nothing about tennis. TRUST ME
@jean-sebastienracine43904 ай бұрын
I've just understood why Mouratoglou's level of play isn't fluid and why he lacks power. He doesn't seem to have understood the basics of tennis and how to generate power with his biomechanics and kinetic chain. He says the arm and wrist should initiate movement while they should be the last link in the kinetic chain starting from the ground up to take advantage of the big muscles groups and weight transfert. the so called raquet lag is a result of the arm and wrist being the last link. And yet, when we look at your former student Holger Rune, he seems to have good biomechanics. It's going to be hard to trust your next videos from now on with statements like that.
@stoyanplugarov83293 ай бұрын
another victim
@jmberille15 ай бұрын
I have to disagree with Patrick for the first time..❤
@direwolf5255 ай бұрын
Swinging with the hand is a wrong concept because if you start to swing with the hand its hard for them to rotate or even use their legs properly
@Emolga62745 ай бұрын
Nonsense
@bmanbusee38125 ай бұрын
He’s clearly using his legs as well to swing in his examples
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